I just recently purchased Kimi from www.growtaller.net. It is the best looking site out of all of them, and it is also the oldest. I will post any results I get.
Froggers (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 164.67.26.116
Email Responses from Kimi users: Yi Cao
March 21 2002, 6:03 PM
Yi Cao is listed as a testimony on the www.growtaller.net Kimi site. I emailed him at yicao@wpi.edu. Interestingly enough, he is a real person. He's a student at Worcester Polytechnic Institute in New York. His website even has his picture. ( http://www.wpi.edu/~yicao ). Don't know how to feel about this though, because his email sounds awfully canned.
I did use Kimi and grew about 2 and a half inches taller in total. I was
5'7'' and 21 when I started using Kimi, and now I am 23 and a half and I
stand 5'9.5''. I can't say Kimi made me very tall, but since my both of my
parents are very short (my father is 5'5'' and my mother is 5'1''), I am
pretty happy with this result. I remember during the first few weeks my
feet were hurt a little bit, but I soon got used to the feeling and
started to like it. Besides that I never had any kind of bad side
effects. Also, those guys who sold me Kimi gave me a good advice: to
do some stretch exercise for about 20 minutes every day along with using
Kimi, and it really worked better. Also, I eat lots of fish, fruits and
vegetables and drink tons of milk. A few of my friends also tried Kimi
and even got better result than me. So I am sure I am not the only one.
Recently the guys at growtaller.net gave me a copy of their updated "10
fantastic free bonuses". I read them and there are really lots of fresh
and very helpful information about height and growing taller. After
following those instructions just for a little over 3 months, I have grown
another half an inch. So I strongly recommend you to try both Kimi and the
10 free bonuses. Before I found Kimi I spent hundreds of dollars on other
growing products like some books or "growth booster"... but none of them
gave much noticeable result. So I can not recommend anything better than
Kimi. Give it a try and you may grow taller too. Good luck!
> Hey Yi. I know this is kinda weird, but I found your email at the Kimi site, www.growtaller.net. I just wanted to ask you whether or not it really works. I would really appreciate it if you got back to me. Thanks.
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Froggers (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 164.67.26.116
Email Responses from Kimi: Miguel Hernandez.
March 21 2002, 6:06 PM
Miguel Hernandez is another testimony at www.growtaller.net. His email is: miguel.hernandez@judicial.state.co.us. He wrote me this:
As to my knowledge I think my hands and feet grew, after a while you can't see a big difference other than your taller. I was 23 when I first wore the inserts, I have to be honest I did not wear them for the hour a day period. I only wore them for about 30 min a day, but I still grew one inch. I know it isn't much but It really makes a difference, I will be wearing them again soon, once it's warmer outside. This time I will wear them for an hour a day and hope to grow even more. Give it a try, unless your 60 I think you will benefit from it, by the way I'm still 23 now.
Miguel
Froggers (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 164.67.26.116
Email Response from OneRom - makers of Kimi.
March 21 2002, 6:08 PM
I emailed the company itself at info@growtaller.net. They responded with a VERY lengthy email:
Hi:
> (1) Can you give me more details about the money back guarantee?
Yes! Kimi comes with Double Life Time Money Back Guarantee, which means if you use Kimi for 90 days and do not get any benefit you can send it back any time in the rest of your life and we will refund you your full purchase price. Moreover, you can still keep all the free bonuses ($54.95 value) even after you return Kimi, so you actually get double money back if you do not benefit from Kimi.
You do not need to worry about the guarantee at all because there is a guarantee card inside of every Kimi package as proof of your right to request a refund. Actually, we only have less than 2% refund rate so you may never need to use the guarantee at all.
> (2) I have pretty small feet. Will cutting Kimi affect its effectiveness? If Kimi is designed using "computers" how could I just cut it up and expect it to work just as well?
No, your small feet will not affect Kimi's effectiveness. As a great height increasing device that can work for anyone, Kimi is fully adjustable. There is a detailed instruction inside of your Kimi package which tells you how to adjust Kimi to fit your feet. So you do not need to worry about your foot size at all. No matter what is your foot size, you only need to spend a few minutes to adjust Kimi to fit your feet.
> (3) Will Kimi make my hands and feet grow too?
By using Kimi your legs, feet, arms and hands will grow proportionally because the extra growth hormone produced by your pituitary gland under the stimulation of Kimi is natural
and will not help you grow in a natural way and proportional way. It is just like the growth you have experienced when you are 13 or 14. So such growth is absolutely healthy and will only make you looks better and stronger when you gain height.
> (4) What's the deal with Yoko?
Yoko is actually an imitation of our original product and its web site was
made by some illegal people on the internet. Below is a thorough explanation
and many hard evidences which can help you understand the whole story.
Kimi was invented in Japan in 1992. A Malaysian company bought the producing
right from its original inventors and started to manufacture Kimi in
Malaysia soon after that. However, no one did successfully market Kimi on
the Internet worldwide until we bought Kimi's resell right from the
Malaysian company in April 1999. We are definitely the first one to
successfully sell Kimi on the Internet worldwide. And since then we have
experienced explosive growth. However, our success soon brought some other
people's attention and jealousy. Since last year at least two other
companies imitated our site and started to sell an imitated product called
"Yoko" (these two sites are www.gainheight.com and www.growtaller.org). Yoko
looks very much like Kimi, but they are not 100% identical. Technically
speaking, Kimi is made harder and more precise than Yoko, so it can
stimulate your nerve points and pituitary glands more effectively. Made out
of imitation, Yoko is softer and less precise, so less effective than Kimi.
Also, we now have iron hard evidences to prove that Yoko is not as reliable
as our product Kimi. The following are our evidences:
1. Please go to www.register.com and type in our Kimi site's domain -
www.growtaller.net and the another two Yoko sites domain -
www.gainheight.com and www.growtaller.org. You will found that our domain
www.growtaller.net was registered more than two years ago on 28- Apr-1999,
but Yoko's domain was registered much later - www.gainheight.com was
registered on 20-Jun-2000, www.growtaller.org was registered on 23-Jul-2001
(just a few months ago!). This proves our indisputable priority on this
height increasing device. We have been marketing Kimi on the Internet since
April 1999 and have sold thousands of Kimi. We can stay in business for so
long because we have provided a product that really help many people grow
taller. Also, we do have many original testimonials from our customers. By
"original" we mean "no editing", all words and sentences there are cited
directly from our customers' emails to us (go to
www.growtaller.net/testimonials.html and see by yourself). There is contact
information for each testimonial's author, which you can not find on all the
other imitated sites. This is an indirect proof that their testimonials are
self-made and not real (just read their testimonials, do they sound like the
original words from customers all over the world?!). By the way, how come
www.growtaller.org can get so many testimonials after only being selling
Yoko for a few months? How can you trust a company that is so unethical
(infringe our copyright) and unreliable?
2. Some people have asked us the similar questions about the other product
Yoko. We answered them that "it is similar, but not the same as Kimi, but we
do not know the owner of that product at all". We doubt the reliability of
Yoko since it deliberately cut down the price, but we do not have evidence,
until a few months ago we received a customer's email:
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "Gaurav Chikara" <gaurav_chikara@hotmail.com>
> > Reply-To: gaurav_chikara@hotmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:49:09 -0000
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Actually I had opted for the similar product from your competitor
> > www.gainheight.com but they turned out to be cheaters
> > and have said me that they will credit my amount by 16th feb
> > if it does not reaches me.(i still doubt it).
> > I just wanna know how much time will u people take
> > can u send it thru courier or so
> > so that it can be tracked and reach me ASAP
> >
> > My contact no is 408-910-5462.I will prefer to be
> > called on or after 16th
> > Feb and tell me who will call me
> >
> > Regards
> > Gaurav
We replied to this customer and he ordered Kimi from us. This shows that the
guys at www.gainheight.com are indeed cheaters. This should be enough to
convince any customer that we are the only reliable source of this height
increasing device. Think about it: why the inventor of Kimi went to get a
different name "Yoko" for a product that has already been successful? Won't
it take more money and time to advertise "Yoko"? Have you ever heard
companies like Microsoft or Coca Cola change their brand? If Kimi and Yoko
are really 100% identical, then their inventors are insanely stupid to do so
much unnecessary work. The only explanation is that Yoko is made out of
imitation of Kimi, they can't use the same name due to the original patent
so they change it to another fancy name (which implies Yoko is not invented
by the same doctors, but is out of some others who stole the ideal and
imitates Kimi; they say it is from the same doctors because they copied our
site). If you still have any doubt of our integrity, you can email some
people who bought Kimi from us:
Anandan John Simon at anandansimon@yahoo.com
Huda Najjar at huda101@hotmail.com
Miguel Hernandez at miguel.hernandez@judicial.state.co.us
Steven De Leon at sdeleon05@yahoo.com
Tony Russo at antoen@hotmail.com
Yasir Khan at yasirkhan316@yahoo.com
Gypsy Ole at gypsy_ole@hotmail.com
Below are a few original emails we recently received from customers dealing
with this issue:
I have chosen Kimi and not Yoko because, by analysing and comparing the
website pictures of both brands, Yoko had copied some but not all
diagrams from Kimi , this shows that Kimi has been longer in the market
and was the source of inspiration for the Yoko guys to start marketing
a "new" product.
Moreover Kimi provides a visual of the packaging , a contact address
and a network of established retailors which have been working for Kimi
with proven sales track record.
Thanks & Regards
Danny
----- Original Message -----
From: "tony russo" <antoen@hotmail.com>
To: <info@growtaller.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:07 AM
Subject: you better no be like that guy at growtaller.org, JOKING
> HEY BRO THIS IS TONY RUSSO I JUST ORDERED KIMI TODAY AND GOT THAT ASSHOLE
> FROM GROWTALLER.ORG TO GIVE ME BACK MY CASH. EMAIL ME BACK OR CALL ME LIKE
> YOU DID LAST TIME AT (519)971-7632 OR ANTOEN@HOTMAIL.COM
> I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU OK BUD, PEACE OUT MAN
You should not be fooled by the little cheaper price other sites are
offering. Why do they offer it a little cheaper? Because they know their
products are not as reliable and good as ours and they have to cut down the
price in order to trap unaware customers. Some customers have complained
that Yoko becomes too soft to use in just a few weeks. This is because it is
not made of the same material as Kimi, but something much cheaper so they
can cut down the price. We have used the same pairs of Kimi for over two
years and they are still as good as new. This is another big difference
between the original Japanese invention and home made imitation. Actually,
the fact that so many people have tried to imitated our original Kimi device
during different time period is just another very strong proof that it is
indeed a great product that works (who is going to stupid enough to imitate
faked products?)!
Hope this really clears this issue. Recently the Yoko guys not only
imitated, but directly copied our site since they found that we become more
and more successful and they are obviously beaten up by us (despite the
lower price game that they are playing). You don't need to forward our
emails to the Yoko guys to confirm us with them, a few people have done so
and all they got was denials and sneaky arguments from www.growtaller.org,
but not a single valid fact or original customers response as evidence. Go
to www.gainheight.com again and you will see they copied all of our
scientific proofs and free bonuses, which is a serious violation to our
international copyright. Thus by now those guys are not just imitating our
product, but also illegally copying our web site. These on line criminals do
not even dare to leave a valid physical address or phone number, the only
thing they have is an email address. Obviously they are afraid to reveal
their true identity and be sued by us (yes, we are trying to catch these
guys and sue them for the damage they have done to us!). They only know to
copy our original words, but they do not know anything about growing taller
by themselves (they may not even use Yoko by themselves, so they do not
understand it well). The only temping thing they have to offer is their
seemly lower price, but our hard evidence have shown that their order
processing and shipping aren't reliable at such a low price at all (in fact
the price of Kimi was fixed by its manufacturer in Asia, and it has not been
changed since the day we first to market it internationally).
We have received lots of complains from Yoko customers saying it does NOT
work since it becomes too soft to use in just a few weeks. Well, we Have
used the same Kimi for over 2 years and it is still as good as new. Some
customers have requested a refund from Yoko people and order our original
Kimi. We suggest you to do the same if you really want to get the genuine
height increasing device. We have presented so many iron-hard evidences that
there should be no more doubt on the truth of this matter.
The most important thing is to start using Kimi as soon as possible. The younger you are, the easier it is for your bones to grow longer. So the earlier you start using Kimi, the better its result. Stop wasting your precious time and chance! Order Kimi right now and you can start growing taller again very soon! If you order by the deadline on our site, you will also receive 10 fantastic bonuses (a $54.95 value) absolutely free (including the best diet, sleeping habits, and exercises to help you grow taller, as well as all the other secret and helpful information about height and growing taller, please go to www.growtaller.net/freebonuses.html for details). Order Kimi at www.growtaller.net/orderinfo.html right now before you miss this great opportunity!
Best Regards,
Grow Taller Group.
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Short Dood (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 164.67.35.19
another update
March 23 2002, 1:37 AM
[Reposted from forum #137441, originally on 8/3/01]
Yes I am 20 and yes I think its weird that they come from California too. Oh well thats life huh. Maybe I should just freakin move to California so I can just get everything in my own state. Yea the address on the container does say Malaysia which means they probably buy direct from Malaysia and then jack up the price and sell it for more to US residents. Im not sure. But yea I will be hoping to see some growth soon. I have actually grown since I started using YOKO not much but I used to measure a distinct 5'6" and 3/4 and now I'm well into the 5'7 territory by like an 1/8 - 1/16" so its not like a lot of growth and its not like too little amount of growth to be a fluke either. Its certianly not as a result of HeightGrowth cuz I have only been taking it for three days so I assume for some reason maybe I streched weird when I was running (cuz I run 3-5 times a week) Or maybe as a result of my new job Im a little more stretched out those ideas seem more logical then Yoko working. But hopefully Heightgrowth will just give me those two inches I want so bad. Well I'll be chcking in later. Hopefullly we'll be getting an update from the gentleman that is actually in Malaysia, that'd be great.
[Reposted from forum #165487, originally on 3/14/2002]
KIMI device is just a very general insole which u can buy in many fitness shop.
Although the insole can increase your body circulation and sleeping well, however, I have use it for already half year, but I haven't grow taller little bit...
but sorry to say that, i haven't follow their rules to grow taller... bcs i am very busy, i don't have too much time to use it twice a day, one before you sleep and one when u wake up.
If anyone follow the rules and have grow taller, please telll me also, thanks~~
Alright, in case you guys dont already know ive grown 2 inches in the past 3 months .......no bs, yes i have been using kimi...........and i still urge everyone to get it for i still believe that it played a huge part in my sudden growth, and still continues......so for the past month or so, ive been wearing kimi for like 10 hours a day.....ya know, "everywhere"...lol....(school, work, out with friends......especially when i workout at the ymca!) now ......now to all of you that have been here for a while, you all know that i normally post extremely long posts, because normally i detail everything and always have an explanation for what i say........but instead of telling you my life story im gonna put down the supplements i take every day that helped me to grow with my excercise........and here they are short and simple........
1.amino liquid-(great for absorbing straight to bloodstream.....
2.colostrum-healthy mind and anti-aging supplement....great for your skin and body
3.of course a multivitamin
4.chrysin-(this is my main supplement, right here.....im not gonna explain what it does, but i truely believe that besides kimi this playes an extraordinary role in my sudden growth "that doesnt seem to stop"..........so look it up
5.growth poppers- from gnc.......gives your body pretty much everything your body needs to grow....."ask someone at gnc"
6.glucosamine+msm tablets.......
7.calcium + vitamin d tablets
i know this is a **** load of supplements, and you all might think that this dude is crazy, but everything i take works or concentrates on different parts of the body that are related to growth.....besides ive been taking all of this the last 3 months, and have been monitoring myself closely, lol..believe me, ive seen nothing but growth, no signs of acromeglay(giantism), and nothing but lean muscle........and my skin seems alot nicer toned(kinda shiny)and thick from the colostrum.......no pretty much ive seen nothing but good.......but i just thought id all let you know what i took, because im telling you.......im still in complete disbelief.............."i grew 2 1/2 inches in the last 3 months.........and its incredible......that why im sharing with you all the supplements that i put into my body each day...........just so you all know, 3 months ago my endo said that i had 1 inch left in my plates to grow.....and i wouldnt grow past 5"7 most likely. This was 3 months ago.......so ever since ive started all this ive been doing anything and everything related to growth.......from hanging, kicking,(all the stuff you do at the gym).....and mostly stayed dedicated to this website....ive learned so much from here!!! and if you know me, ive shared everything i knew or learned about growth also.....now......i dont know whats been happening to me, but ive wanted to be taller my whole life........and its actually coming true......it seems like im getting a nicer built to myself also thats for sure...........i have no body fat at all what so ever......so when i tell you that i gained 10 pounds in the last 3 months, its nothing but solid muscle.........so i surpassed my supposed finalized growth by an inch and a half....and in only 3 months!!! how do you think i feel? I proved my endocronoligist(dr.edidin, a growth professionalist)wrong.........and in only 3 months!!!! lol .....shes gonna feel pretty confused when i let her know about this......lol shell feel happy for me at the same time, but all im saying is that a profesional of growth told me what my growth plates had left and i totally surpassed it by an inch and a half, in only 3 months time..............so there ya go.......thats my story.......next thing on my mind is stature, next paycheck im gonna purchase it.......since it most likely contains some or mostly aminos, ill just stop taking amino fuel liquid for a month and see how stature does on its own without overdosing on aminos.......ill try it for a month and see what happens, if nothing ........ill get my money back......but you never know if something works unless you try it "yourself".........only you can stop yourself, and only you can help yourself........"your mind is your most powerful resource", think about it.........sorry for the long post, but i get into what i type sometimes, lol.......hoped i helped you guys out a little .........im going to bed now, later.............
[Reposted from Joey's forum, originally on 2/27/02]
They have some effect. I mean after wearing them for a few weeks, you see a difference. I started losing weight, having some REALLY intense dreams and feeling growing pains during the day. I wore them once a few days ago and "felt the growth" and the days before that I didn't wear it, felt nothing. It does something,but I didn't see any linear growth. I admit that I could have done more with it, but I can't really say that it works...I also can't say it doesn't
[Reposted from Joey's forum, originally on 2/28/02]
i'm going to start using mine again. when i used them i did feel better. i had more energy and i slept better. but like joey i didnt see any noticable growth. the best part was when you took them out of your shoes and walked without them. feels like you're walking on clouds
Willigrow (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 172.144.54.100
Hey Froggers
March 25 2002, 11:21 AM
[Reposted from Joey's forum, originally on 3/7/02]
I have been reading past posts on this board and one from you was about Kimi. Yes I was dumb enough to try them. I used them almost everywhere I walked for a little over a month. The only thing I got out of them was swollen feet near the arch of my foot where they dig in pretty good. Maybe I didnt try them long anough but I really dont think they work, not for me.
Im 23 and stopped using them about 3 weeks ago but when I emailed them they told me they also will help for people with fused plates. I dont see how If they just release hgh but I bought them anyway. Again Im not saying they are or are not a scam they just didnt work for me.
Willigrow (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 172.144.54.100
Hey Joey
March 25 2002, 11:27 AM
[Reposted from Joey's forum]
March 13 2002 at 3:14 PM
from IP address 205.188.193.24
I stummbled on one of your posts as I was reading older ones and noticed the one about Kimi. You said you started to feel growing pains and had some intense dreams WOW thats weird because before I stopped using them I kind of got the same feeling dream wise but I thought it was just from inversion. I noticed my dreams seem far to real like never before, I would wake up and would kind of have a feeling of being overwhelmed and it would take a while before I could fall a sleep again. This stopped when I stopped using them but I though maybe I was just getting used to inversion. I got the feeling of growing pains but I think that was mainly because me feet were herting from waring them all day. What do you think? Can I grow using these even at 23 years old with fused plates. You said you felt growing pains but did you notice an increase in height? I didnt thanks
the kid (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 172.144.54.100
Hey
March 25 2002, 11:29 AM
[Reposted from Joey's forum]
March 13 2002 at 5:14 PM
from IP address 208.191.125.202
yea I have the intense ass dreams regularly now because of kimi, lol. I don't know if they work or not, but I measured myself today and I might be imagining but I think I gained maybe a centimeter, again I am probably measuring to early but I just had too since there is a mirror in my bathroom. I have also lost weight and gotten more energy with them. I am pretty positive that with more time they will probably make me grow at least a little bit, only time will tell.
I didn't grow at all, but I'm not really as muc i the height increase thing for myself as much as I was in the past. I din't really have a great routine with them, but there are quite a few people who tell me they get results, but then again lots more on forums say they havn't. I think they don't wanna bring it to the boards and be called scammers or liars. So they e-mail me and tell me they grew with it. I'm wearing mine now..I mean I paid like $50 for them so I'm not gonna let them stay in a shoebox or something. Besides, If they're in my shoes, noone can stumble upon them and see the words HEIGHT INCREASE DEVICE on them......lol
I mean the other night, I had a dream that was beyond intense and beyond insane..it was like a freaking movie or something. I know that sounds like total crap, but it's the truth. I can't see how people can get enough sleep with them, because the growth pains make it hard to sleep. As far as growth, you hear more negative than positive feedback, but nowadays people are doing routines with them and get some results. You're playing a limited field as far as growing, but I firmly beliee in trying a little of everything that you feel is worth it.
This message has been edited by Froggy1 from IP address 172.144.54.100 on Mar 25, 2002 11:33 AM
the kid (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 172.144.54.100
I would definetly buy it if I were you
March 25 2002, 11:35 AM
[Reposted from Joey's forum]
March 14 2002 at 9:35 AM
from IP address 208.191.120.40
I remember a while back going through some of the old scam network54 forums and reading a lot of posts saying, kimi is a scam don't buy that crap (discouraging stuff). But the way I saw it, I was on forums that were promoting their own "growing scam" or program, example the b-growth network54 forums, so obviously they were goin to say bad shit like that, there were plenty of other scam forums like it too, occasionally u did see a success story that in my view, was lucky it wasn't deleted. And even people that grew with kimi, why would they want to come find a msg board and post their success only to be called scammers? I am pretty sure that 90% of the people that go to the kimi site will never find or use any of these types of forums anyway.
Kimi is probably the easiest thing to use, and it does give me more energy. Last night again I had the most hilariously insane that it was almost scary/funny? It was a good one though, ahah. I have started to have growing pains I THINK, I don't think it can be anything else. The thing with the dreams is wierd, maybe kimi stimulates your mind, and maybe the only thing it does is help you REMEMBER your dreams, because I think (I may be wrong) people have several dreams at night they just dont' remember them. They also boost your metabolism as far as I can tell.
Joey have you been using a routine with them, how have you been using them if you still are or were using them?
Willigrow (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 172.144.54.100
Froggers
March 25 2002, 11:47 AM
[Reposted from Joey's forum]
March 21 2002 at 5:15 PM
from IP address 152.163.207.69
I think I told you before I had kimi but it actully is yoko. I allways thought it was the same thing from the same company so I used the kimi name. I guess I was wrong. The yoko ones are green I dont know what color the kimi ones are. The funny thing is I thought I ordered the Kimi through there website and got the yokos instead.
Before couple of weeks ago i said that I was goin to try KIMI, BONESGROWTH.COM and B-GROWTH at the same time to get the best results and effects of it...
I have already bought KIMI and BONESGROWTH.COM
**KIMI**
1. Painfull
2. It looks cheap
3. Doesn't look like its worth $50.95 (including shipping charge)
4. Unprecisely Manufactured
**I AM STILL WEARING THEM BUT I CANT COMMENT ON WHETHER IT WORKS OR NOT, I'LL DO AFTER 3 MONTHS**
**BONESGROWTH.COM - MEMBERSHIP**
1. BASIC INFORMATIONS - honestly
2. MOST OF THE EXERCISE MOSTLY DEVELOPS OR BUILDS YOUR MUSCLES NOT HEIGHT.
3. THEY ONLY PROVIDE YOU INFO...WHILE YOU HAVE TO GO TO GYM AND SWIMMING POOL TO DO YOUR BEST.
4. GOOD INFO BUT TOO EXPENSIVE FOR MONTHLY FEE.
**I AM FOLLOWING AS BONESGROWTH SAYS BUT I CANT COMMENT ON WHETHER IT WORKS OR NOT, I'LL DO AFTER 3 MONTHS**
Posted on Dec 18, 2001, 5:54 AM
from IP address 194.82.103.41
Froggers (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 164.67.20.137
Reflexology Chart.
April 15 2002, 7:08 PM
This message has been edited by Froggy1 from IP address 164.67.20.137 on Apr 15, 2002 7:12 PM This message has been edited by Froggy1 from IP address 164.67.20.137 on Apr 15, 2002 7:10 PM
(no login) 64.121.73.42
frogger do you see any results ?
April 24 2002, 1:54 AM
I see you was trying kimi ! What are the results so far ? Its a month already !
Froggers (no login) 164.67.23.76
No results yet...but they hurt like hell!!!
April 24 2002, 2:35 PM
I haven't felt any of the effects of increased HGH either, in fact, I've been really tired lately...maybe it just needs more time...
Originally posted on
March 23 2002 at 11:29 PM Amory (no login)
from IP address 161.184.104.48
I've been attempting height increase for about 2.5 years and have tried many things.
1. Started off with the journal from scorpions site. Did every thing as it said all the time. No results
2. Yoko insoles, followed them vigorously for 4 months. No results www.growtaller.net is a scam beware!!!! Do not trust Guru he is a con man.
3. Dr. Bagga 6 month cycle no results. Followed everything to a T.
SO there it is. I'm an eternal optimist and do believe height gain is possible. But I did not grow. I still stand 5' 11" which is a decent height but I always wanted that extra inch. I'm going to be in touch with BAgga to get some feed back. I'll keep you posted.
I would think the best way of achieving results would be hardcore stretching and hanging. Pilates, that sort of thing.
(no login) 64.231.36.180
Re: Kimi and Yoko.
May 17 2002, 6:11 PM
Hey guys
About this kimi product….I think it seems very promising…
I think it really does work if followed properly with all the hints and bonus provided..…
However the problem is…I don’t know it you guys figured it out yet..
But on the “Free Height Bonus #7”..there are two links and if you click on both of these links it takes you too scorpions old site (http://www.geocities.com/gottogrow)….
And keep in mind that scorpion was here a lot longer then you all…as a matter of fact I think he started this growing taller thing or was the second person to do so…even before johnnyUtah arrived. (I was there at that time too…visiting their sites off and on)…
Keep in mind later on Guru adapted the idea of Kimi and invented his own homemade “yoko”…
So I’m not accusing Scorpion of anything I’m just a little suspicious about that…
But remember they both have been around for a long time, since one day….and they both have seen and heard everything about the various ways of growing…and they both are filled with a lot of knowledge and growing ideas…
Because after all kimi is very old and soo too is Scorpion and his site…
But Scorpion is a genius to come up with this kimi product if it really is him who invented it…because after all I really think it does works…
And Guru who knew that there was something impressive about kimi…decided to invent his own version….however his product from what I here is crap…and I know it’s crap….
Anyways you guys all know that I’m a legit and straightforward person…I never scam or try to advertise or promote anything…I have been here on all these forums since day one too(off and on)….
And if I wanted to…I too can try to profit by inventing my own growing taller solution/product/cream/pill/etc blah blah blah… and say too you all that it really does work…just like all these scammers have been doing for a very long time now….
having look through at most of responses of people using kimi,I realize many people seem not to like kimi in some way. Some people say guru is a scam for kimi and etc.
but I would like to ask if all of you are really buying the correct product or not? Are you all buying the fake one (yoko) or the real one(kimi)?Which website did you all buy from??
Me is a person who want to buy this product(kimi, not yoko) from www.growtaller.net but not so sure good or not, so need to find out more.
And for one of the responser, Amory, he say he try yoko and not effective and then he say www.growtaller.net is a scam .Strange enough, I thougt this web sell kimi and not yoko?!
And I dont understand why everybody expect to grow after wearing for 3 months?does kimi guarantee growt after 3 month? according to the testinomials, some of the people grow only after more than 3 months!
Froggers, may I ask which website do you buy kimi from??Me also wan to buy, but a bit scared now since many people has negative response
you all know who i am!!! (no login) 64.231.33.160
TO HANCT
May 28 2002, 6:32 AM
HEY man...
here are the websites(also posted on the first message above)...
If your gonna buy either one of these.....I suggest you go with kimi...cause yoko is guru's fake imitation..
Thank you. But www.heightincrease.com is not the real one ,cos I email the www.growtaller.com, they say they only have one website , and www.heightincrease.com is not theirs!!!
REMEMBER PAY ATTENTION TO THE IP’S AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH:
WWW.GROWTALLER.NET (“KIMI official site..AND OK IN MY OPIONION!!”)
Registrant:
Grow Taller Group
1 Arden St., Suite 610
New York
N.Y.
10040
US
Domain Name: GROWTALLER.net
Administrative Contact:
Grow Taller Group (GT00002-TR)
OneRom
1 Arden St.
Suite 610
New York City
N.Y.
10040
US
phone: (212)5440888
fax: (212)9421815
info@growtaller.net
Technical Contact:
Grow Taller Group (GT00002-TR)
OneRom
1 Arden St.
Suite 610
New York City
N.Y.
10040
US
phone: (212)5440888
fax: (212)9421815
info@growtaller.net
Record updated on 23/04/2002
Record expires on 28/04/2003
Record created on 28/04/1999
Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.affinity.com 207.150.192.124
ns2.affinity.com 207.150.196.238
Registrant:
Ltd., Body Edge Solutions (GROWTALLER8-DOM)
9647 Sunset Boulevard
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
US
Domain Name: GROWTALLER.ORG
Administrative Contact:
Ltd., Body Edge Solutions (BL12428) contact@growtaller.org
9647 Sunset Boulevard
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
US
(310) 276-2151
Technical Contact:
Ltd., Body Edge Solutions (BL12429) contact@growtaller.org
Organization
9647 Sunset Boulevard
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
US
(310) 276-2151
Record expires on 12-May-2003.
Record created on 23-Jul-2001.
Database last updated on 29-May-2002 17:39:14 EDT.
REMEMBER PAY ATTENTION TO THE IP’S AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH:
WWW.GROWTALLER.NET (“KIMI official site..AND OK IN MY OPIONION!!”)
Registrant:
Grow Taller Group
1 Arden St., Suite 610
New York
N.Y.
10040
US
Domain Name: GROWTALLER.net
Administrative Contact:
Grow Taller Group (GT00002-TR)
OneRom
1 Arden St.
Suite 610
New York City
N.Y.
10040
US
phone: (212)5440888
fax: (212)9421815
info@growtaller.net
Technical Contact:
Grow Taller Group (GT00002-TR)
OneRom
1 Arden St.
Suite 610
New York City
N.Y.
10040
US
phone: (212)5440888
fax: (212)9421815
info@growtaller.net
Record updated on 23/04/2002
Record expires on 28/04/2003
Record created on 28/04/1999
Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.affinity.com 207.150.192.124
ns2.affinity.com 207.150.196.238
Registrant:
Ltd., Body Edge Solutions (GROWTALLER8-DOM)
9647 Sunset Boulevard
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
US
Domain Name: GROWTALLER.ORG
Administrative Contact:
Ltd., Body Edge Solutions (BL12428) contact@growtaller.org
9647 Sunset Boulevard
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
US
(310) 276-2151
Technical Contact:
Ltd., Body Edge Solutions (BL12429) contact@growtaller.org
Organization
9647 Sunset Boulevard
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
US
(310) 276-2151
Record expires on 12-May-2003.
Record created on 23-Jul-2001.
Database last updated on 29-May-2002 17:39:14 EDT.
GO AHEAD AND TRY IT FOR YOURSELFS…YOU’LL BE SURPRISED
SO YOU BE THE JUDGE!!!
you all know who i am???
hanct (no login) 137.132.3.10
Thank you for your help!!Your help is valuable to me!!
May 29 2002, 6:53 PM
I discover that only the official web is created in 1999(the oldest) and the rest of scam is created after 1999!!!! Look like growtaller.net is more trusted.
But unforutnately even if kimi itself is not a scam, that dosnt indicate it is workable. Cos the company themsleves may not intend to cheat people but they thought their product will work when actually it does not. That is why I waiting for frogger for his reply.
By the way, may I know whether if you have try out any height increasing stuff before? Efficiency???
hanct (no login) 137.132.3.10
Frogger!! I need your help!!
May 30 2002, 5:22 AM
Frogger , you are one of those who purchase the kimi shoes from the official website. Can you tell me what material it is made of? plastic? rubber?
hanct (no login) 137.132.3.10
Froggers! One more questions to ask!
May 30 2002, 5:35 AM
you have seen their ten free bonuses righht? do you think ALL their exercise is self invented? Or did they use the exercise from other website? (I dont mind if they copy the exercise from other web, as long as it is useful)
you all know who i am??? (no login) 64.231.37.254
Re: Kimi and Yoko.
May 30 2002, 9:32 PM
I HAVE THIER 10 FREE BONUSES...
most of it is crap...however a few are helpful...
Froggers (no login) 164.67.22.117
Hanst, I will give you the 10 Free Bonuses here!
June 2 2002, 12:50 PM
Here they are:
www.growtaller.net/keyforfreebonuses.html
I was actually really upset when I got this. One of the free bonuses is a link to some stretching exercises known as the "second journal" that someone posted on one of the old school growing taller sites. It's actually a free version of the ru2short.com journal. What kind of company would post a link to copyright protected material that is illegally post on the internet??? That's what I was thinking.
Kimi is made of plastic. It's literally regular plastic, nothing special about it. Yoko is made of softer rubber-like material.
As for whether or not I've grown with Kimi, I haven't really been wearing it. (I'm busy with the Back Lengthening Apparatus and the Super Hi-Jack). You know, before I bought kimi, I couldn't understand why people would buy it, and then not ALWAYS wear it. Well, to be honest, they're really uncomfortable and I don't feel like they work! I really hate wearing them. They make your feet smell, and I think if you really do wear them all day for 3 months, your feet will get majorly fucked up. The big bump in the middle of the insole starts to wear down the inside of your feet and you begin to develop a callous there. Honestly kids, I think Kimi is probably the biggest scam out there. I don't want to say it's a scam for sure, because some people have felt something from wearing them, like vivid dreams and more energy. But again, NO ONE has GROWN using Kimi. So that's my 2 cents. You guys can do what you like. If some of you really do end up growing, please let us know.
hanct (no login) 137.132.3.10
Thank you frogger!!!!
June 2 2002, 5:29 PM
But anyway before you post your message up, I have already bought kimi. I will try to update you with my success/failure in using kimi.
I dont mind whether if the exercise is linked to other web, as long as it work for me, its all right. As for kimi, I was still wondering about those testinomial and whether they are really true testinomials or not . The only testinomial I think trustable is Yi Cao testinomail since there are really such person . The only thing I afraid is he callobrated with the company which I think is less probable.
By the way, may I know your age ?frogger.Cos me want to see whether this kimi does not work on what age so I can roughly determine its success on my age.
Well frogger. If it does not work , time to ask for refund. I dont mind buying a product that does not really work provided they are trustable enough to refund you as what they promised.
Froggers (no login) 164.67.23.151
I'm 24, but there's a catch with the refund.
June 4 2002, 10:04 PM
First of all, the refund card is clearly made for a foreign country. (It looks Malaysian or Indonesian) Secondly, the refund card requires that you go to a hospital have your height measure before you ask for the refund. It's really lame. They know that people will be too lazy to go to a hospital have their height measured.
hanct (no login) 137.132.3.10
thanks frogger.
June 4 2002, 10:38 PM
But hey, you can give it a try anyway since you can pretend to tell them you have went hosiptal to measured height. But before you do that, i think you better try to wear it first, cos I think you say you have not been trying them for a whie.
Well, you can wear sock to reduce the hurting effect.
By the way, i think kimi best done with exercise. So perhaps you can exercise with kimi. YOu may never know, it may work.
Anyway, me have not receive the kimi yet, and I have been doing exercise (stretch, jump and hang)every day.
I will see if kimi has any effect on my height, if combine with exercise. Will update you 2-3month later.
hanct (no login) 203.117.33.25
Frogger, from the day when those seller tell you they receive .....
June 12 2002, 6:10 AM
Frogger, from the day when those seller tell you they receive your money to the day when you receive the money,how long does it take? do you get the kimi from post office cos I think the kimi is too big to fit into letter box?
YOKO, KIMI Same thing??!! ordered from 2 websites!
June 12 2002, 10:14 AM
I think YOKO and KIMI are same thing! I ordered a pair that says YOKO from one website and then recently ordered from the "official" KIMI site, growtaller.net and got the EXACT SAME THING!!! They're both green and made of cheap thin plastic!! Exactly the same down to the T! If they're both Yoko, what does the real KIMI look like? All scams???!!!
bobo (no login) 216.148.246.70
I have , too, ordered Yoko and thinking of ordering Kimi
June 12 2002, 10:48 AM
hey, I am thinking of going for Kimi. I have tried Yoko only for like two months but since I heard from you guys that yoko is fake, I decided to quit using yoko and thinkinf of ordering Kimi instead. SO, I really desperate to know what really the difference is b/w these to products.
and by the way, can anyone tell whether wearing socks when using the insole will diminish the result? and for anyone who is using kimi, do you guys fell the other spot other then only your concave part of your feet get painful feelling? like your big toes or other areas under the feet.
hanct (no login) 137.132.3.10
Lisa, is the yoko and kimi really the same?
June 12 2002, 7:16 PM
really the same in terms of hardness? I thought one is rubber and the other plastic???How can they be same?
Froggers (no login) 164.67.27.56
Look, peoples...they are not exactly the same, but that doesn't matter.
June 12 2002, 9:33 PM
I'm pretty sure that Yoko is made of rubber and Kimi is made of harder plastic, but it really doesn't matter. The only thing special about either insole is that there is this big protruding triangle (tetrahedron?) that juts out from the middle of the insole so that it stimulates the inside of your foot. That's the ONLY thing special about Kimi. You can really make it yourself, there's nothing technical about it. I'm telling you, it makes no difference what it's made of, the effect is the same. I think it's a scam you guys, if you think about it, it really doesn't make any sense. the growtaller people just dress it up in a bunch of "scientific" language, but I have yet to year one legit story that it's made anyone taller...including myself!!!
It actually took a long time to arrive. At first I thought they weren't even going to send it...the website says something like 4-7 days if you pay by credit card, I think it took them like 2 weeks to actually get it to me.
hanct (no login) 137.132.3.9
Thank you frogger for your response
June 14 2002, 1:40 AM
Me not so sure when they say xxx no, of business days to reach the buyer, whether it include the no. of days for the money order to reach them(if you buy using money order) .
Anyway I bought it so gonna try out. Even it can be homemade, i still have to buy cos I dont have the material to make such insole or even have the time to make.
I remember frogger, you say you dont feel anything when wearing the kimi, so you thought it has no effect.
But actually you are wrong ,you did feel something!!!you feel PAINFUL!!!
by the way, whether this type of insole work or not, i dont know, but tell you something: I now living in Asian country. My country here some of the outdoor park has a row of stones which our government has constructed to let people(especially for the old) walk across the stones with bare foot. And i heard that this will stimulate good health base on reflexology principle. So I think it work like kimi. And walking across these bumpy stones stimualte every part of our feet.
but i not so sure if walking across this stones can make you grow taller or not. but it defintiely hhas effect, or else why government build it??!!! whats more? its free!!
bg (no login) 66.108.74.141
i have the same letter from yi cao
June 27 2002, 1:57 PM
I got the same letter from Yi Cao as frogger did. THis could mean that he just saved the email and sends it out whenever someone emails him, or it could mean that he is part of the company or something. I don't know, I 'm not pointing any fingers or anything, I just thought I should share this.
Hi,
I did use Kimi and really grew about 2 and a half inches taller in total.
I was 5'7'' and 21 when I started using Kimi, and now I am 23 and a half
and I stand 5'9.5''. I can't say Kimi made me very tall, but since my both
of my parents are very short (my father is 5'5'' and my mother is 5'1''),
I am pretty happy with this result. I remember during the first few weeks
my feet were hurt a little bit, but I soon got used to the feeling and
started to like it. Besides that I never had any kind of bad side effects.
Also, those guys who sold me Kimi gave me a good advice: to do some
stretch exercise for about 20 minutes every day along with using Kimi, and
it really worked better. Also, I eat lots of fish, fruits and vegetables
and drink tons of milk. A few of my friends also tried Kimi and even got
better result than me. So I am sure I am not the only one. Recently the
guys at growtaller.net gave me a copy of their updated "10 fantastic free
bonuses". I read them and there are really lots of fresh and very helpful
information about height and growing taller. After following those
instructions just for a little over 3 months, I have grown another half
an inch. So I strongly recommend you to try both Kimi and the 10 free
bonuses. Before I found Kimi I spent hundreds of dollars on other growing
products like some books or "growth booster"... but none of them gave
much noticeable result. So I can not recommend anything better than Kimi.
Give it a try and you may grow taller too. Good luck!
hanct (no login) 137.132.3.10
well if someone keep .....
June 27 2002, 7:13 PM
well if someone keep emailing to you, will you do the same thing as him? hehe. Well i also email him once before, first time i email him ask him about how kimi look like, he actullay reply in his own word, but then after a period of time i email him again and ask him about the material the kimi is made of, he did reply, but he reply exactly the same as above, but he still did not answer my question as to what material kimi is made of. If yicao is part of company, he will have answer me and tell me some thing like" kimi made of enduarble plastic last for at least 5 years , unlike yoko....." So i believe he too frustrated to answer each and every mail that he decide to save his message, and whoever email him he just simply send the saved message to everyone.
above is just my opinion. Me also trying kimi now. Will tell you result a month or so later.
banshee (no login) 210.186.194.167
i've messaged yi ciao too..
June 28 2002, 6:34 AM
hi guys.. i've actually messaged yi ciao too.. on the first reply from him, he sent me that "introduction email" too.. exactly like what you guys had received.. however i mailed him a second time asking about the kimi insole and he replied personally.. maby i guess hanct is true.. he simply has to keep a mail so he can reply everybody who mailed him.. weired.. he's the only guy who replied.... i've mailed to everyone who was listed in the kimi site
Froggers (no login) 66.150.191.10
Hey guys, I'm more and more convinced that Kimi is a scam.
June 28 2002, 8:47 AM
It doesn't do shit for me. I wear ALL DAY, and it doesn't do anything. I wouldn't buy it you guys, after you wear it for a while, you start to develop callouses on the soles of your feet. It's pretty bad. I stopped wearing them again, I just can't take it. I'm not feeling more energetic, I didn't experience any weight loss, nothing. And now that you guys have all gotten the same email from Yi, I'm even more convinced that it's a big scam, and he's just a part of it. Look guys, if he really grew two inches, why doesn't he just put his before and after picture on the Kimi website? Then they would have proof, and everyone would buy a pair.
Please, whoever's reading this, if you haven't bought kimi or yoko yet, DO NOT FALL FOR THEIR SCAM. Like I said, I haven't heard of ONE SINGLE person growing from it. Especially you guys who are buying both Kimi and Yoko, please, there is nothing special or different about either, don't fall for the same scam twice.
I feel like a moron now. I didn't want to come out and bash Kimi until I gave it a shot, well, now I think I have, and the thing is useless. If you think about it, the entire premise is ludicrous. I've been participating on a height increase forum for nearly 7 months now. EVERYONE has a pair of Kimis, it's the first thing anyone tries. And like I said, I haven't talked to a single person who has grown. PLEASE people DON'T BUY IT.
bg (no login) 66.108.74.141
testimonial
June 28 2002, 9:00 PM
hey guys,
i have received two more testimonials from people who I emailed from Kimi. The first is from Eric Lloyd Lewis:
I think my testimonial more or less summed it up but I'll respond anyway...I was 5'11" barefoot in the morning before wearing the insoles, and I have grown almost 1 1/2" after 9 months. I am now 19(as of May 20th). During these 9 months, I have been on a strict diet--nothing unhealthy--that means no sugar, white/enriched/bleached flour, butter/margarine, fast/fatty food, etc. Thing is, I started this diet at the beginning of 2000. I started with no sweets in 2000, and really turned it on in May 2001. I was only 5'8" barefoot on my 16th b-day, and 3 yrs. later have grown over 4". Imagine that, 4" after you're 16th b-day, 3 inches of which, are from your diet alone! I still feel like a twinkie or a maple doughnut now and then but in the long run, I'm not gonna have health problems! A good book to read is Lick the Sugar Habit by Nancy Appleton. It's a good book and tells all the problems sugar causes. There are like 88 or something. Also, during 9 months, I have been stretching and hanging, which is how I grew over 1" after 18 while wearing the insole. If nothing else, it should help you remember your dreams. Good luck.
The second one is from Renate Larry, who is fifty:
First of all, I am woman and not a man.
Seconds, If it wouldn't work I wouldn't have written the testimonal in the
first place. It really did work for me. I did the exercise that came with the
product and I stayed on that diet. You need to stick with the exercise and
diet or you won't grow.
You can't drink any alcohol or smoke since that is reducing your chances of
growing. For the past few weeks I didn't grow because I was to lazy to do my
excercise and I just ate what I wanted. Now this week I started up with the
excercise and the diet and I grew another Centimeter. I wear my kimi's on a
daily basis. I only take them off when I go to bed or when I am in my shower.
Plus you need to remember you don't grow overnight. it takes time. If you are
too scared of growing then don't use kimi.
Good Luck
Renate
hanct (no login) 203.117.33.24
Thank you bg for putting up the reply from these 2 person
June 28 2002, 9:24 PM
I think the reply from them is quite interesting. First , i realize that Lewis is most probably not part of the scam cos he did not seem to emphazie much on the insole, but rather talk a lot on diet.
For the Larry, i not so sure whehter he is part of thie scam or not, though i believe he is not, cos e says:"You need to stick with the exercise and
diet or you won't grow. " . if it was the those grow taller member, they will have say:" kimi work whether ecercise or not.".
Well, me just anyhow give an opinion on these 2 reply, i may not be right.
i think we should not try to investigate ig grow taller company scam or not, we should try to search on web or whatever to see if the inventor of the kimi exist or not.( i think the inventor is a japanese, remember reading it from the grow taller web).
by the way , though number of people (who try the insole says on forum that it did not work) is more, but dont forget, out of those number of people, some wear yoko(not kimi), some are scammer of other product, some did not even try the insole for long, some may even wear the insloe wrongly.
So in conclusion, i dare not say if kimi dont work, but of cousre, i still dont dare to say if kimi work. But i believe exercise should be done along with the insole.(By the way, me now wearing insloe wile exercise. When came to jumping, i jump barefoot, otherwise the feet will sure bleed if jump with the insole)
banshee (no login) 210.186.194.72
btw, how old are u
June 30 2002, 6:55 AM
btw, frogger, how old are you? i'm 16 and i bought kimi exactly two weeks ago and i'm still waiting for it to arrive how.. well.. i sure hope that it does miracles for me.. with my age advantage
(no login) 203.66.245.201
Hanct, How old are u?
June 30 2002, 7:49 PM
Dear Hacnt:
May I ask u how old and how tall are u?
i am 26y and 5'6...
I have just received my kimi last week, and i start to use it from now on....It seems that we kick off the process at the same time for growing taller
Maybe we can keep exchanging our experience for more effects frequently.....
BTW, how do u do "hanging" in ur room?
Have u bought some special device or hanging bar?
i see a " door gym" in www.youcansave.com and i am really interested in it...
hanct (no login) 203.117.33.25
hi sean lin, nice to meet you.
June 30 2002, 9:17 PM
I think we can try exchanging info about our usage of kimi. Me is 21 years old, approaching 22 in one month time. And me used to be 165cm and stop growing since then. it has been several years i not growing up. Now me grow up or not, i not so sure, though i little believe i may grow up by 0.5-1cm.Amyway , i dont dare measure my height yet. Wait until 9 months later, then i really measure my height. meanwhile , i can only use my feeling and own judgement to decide if i am growing up.
me now wear kimi and doing exercise(dont dare to depend kimi alone).
What about you? how old are you and how tall(in cm)??
(no login) 203.66.245.201
nice to see ur reply
July 2 2002, 4:05 AM
Hi....
I am a 26 year old man with 169 cm...
i am wearing my kimi right now...
To get the best results, i force myself to wear it all the time except sleeping time..Besides, I used to do the stretch exercise at night. After finish the stretching, i will take some milk, calcium tablet and multi-vitamin tablet for enough nutrient. Really hope the hard work would gain some inch....
Frankly speakling, stretching is really painful and borning...do u feel the same way?
i am trying to buy the device for hanging, can u give me some advice?
hanct (no login) 137.132.3.10
Nice to see your reply too
July 2 2002, 7:18 AM
I like to suggest one thing: its better to stretch in morning just after you wake up and not night, COs my theory is by night time , your bone has compressed and your height will drop a bit as compared to the day, and stretching at night ONLY JUST uncompress the bone.
But on the other hand, early in morning, when you wake up, your bone is already uncompress and at its max stretch. Thus doing exercise will lengthen your max height. That is why i now everday in morning, go and do exercise!!!before my body got the chance to reduce.
(yes, you are right, do exercise straight after you wake up)
NOTE:above is just my theory. Me not so sure if wat i say is correct.
For me, i got park near my house, thus me no use any stretching device. I have read a lot of exercise that stretch your body and leg, but i realize the best stretching exercise for me is Leg bar(stretch leg) and body backward stretch( for stretching body), which to me is quite effecctive.
Yes, i know, stretching is painful.But i heard that stretching can produce growth hormomes. so when ever i feel pain in my leg when i stretch, that will mean i
have stretch to my max, and that will make me happy!! so ultimately I feel painful with happiness.
And i suggest, every now and then, you will stand up and stretch your body to prevent your body has the chance to compress itself. I think it should be helpful and also you will feel shiok!!
Maria (no login) 192.169.41.45
I got a comment
July 16 2002, 7:08 AM
I bought Yoko (the scam thingy) this January, and I used it for a month and I gained 2cm. I ate alot of vegetables, fish, and drank alot of water and milk during that whole month. I also did the yoga exercises in the Free Bonuses thing, and I never knew much about Yoga and I loved it, coz it relaxed me, and more flexible.
The reason I didn't want to tell was because I knew the other ppl would call me a scammer but I'm just 13! You might be wondering, "Then why the hell are you still here on this board?", well, it's simply because I was lazy, I slacked off after that one-month use. But I wanted something that would make me taller by at least five inches, and I could use the Kimi after I gain that much.
banshee (no login) 210.186.194.207
kimi changed their website.. didn't u all notice?
July 28 2002, 6:59 AM
hey friends out there.. did u all notice that kimi recently changed their website? they even introduced the new package.. that one with 40 free bonuses.. however the price of the kimi insole was up ..wonder what is their "secret url" for their "40 free bonuses" this time. hehe
Amy (no login) 64.0.99.201
i think kimi might actually work
July 28 2002, 9:55 AM
Hi My name is Amy and I'm 5'1 1/2. I ordered Kimi last year and tried it and discontinued use because it was so painful. Now, a year later, I am determined to reach 5'4. I decided to wear these insole things for awhile after just to hope and pray that I would grow. Just three weeks ago I was 5'0 1/4 tall and now I am 5'1 1/2. I am 14 years old so I don't know if it was because I am naturally growing or because of the Kimi but I really haven't experienced that kind of growth for a long time. growtaller.net seems like the most trustworthy site but i dunno for sure. i just wanted to share my experience with some of you.
The biggest problem with this and all other height increase products is they can't do the SIMPLEST of things, which is provide before and after photos proving their products work. If a company had proof which could actually be seen, their sales would increase greatly. And companies are only motivated by the prospect of making more money. Why then has this VERY simple act not occured? Why hasn't just one of these companies decided to get some before and after pictures of clients who have taken their product and showing the results they have achieved?
You see before and after pictures all the time for hair regeneration adds(the people tend to be those with odd cases of hair loss, not normal male pattern baldness). Why not see pictures of height increase? The answer is because this is bogus. Kimi, yoko and all other height increase products do not work.
usa00 (no login) 152.163.197.63
even beofre and after pictures can just be adobephotoshopped (n/t)
July 29 2002, 4:50 PM
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Froggers (no login) 164.67.26.62
Sure pictures can be altered...
July 29 2002, 7:24 PM
But they don't even try, that's the point. You'd think that if a product really worked, there would be SOMEONE'S picture they could put up.
Brian (no login) 205.188.209.10
Re: Kimi and Yoko.
July 31 2002, 1:34 PM
If anyone gets the new 40 bonus's post them up. The 40th one looked interesting to me. It was supposely a whole new product that would help u no matter what age. They say that they will give the information to contact the people that will be able to do this for you, whatever it may be. Well if anyone gets it please post. Thank you
banshee (no login) 210.186.194.107
oh the last one?
August 2 2002, 10:09 AM
that's limb lengthening.. it's an insane programme .. it'll cost u up to $40,000 or $70,000 us dollars. i think u can just forget about it unless u're a multi-millionare or whatsoever
Froggers (no login) 66.150.191.10
It's not insane because it's expensive.
August 2 2002, 11:49 AM
I would pay $70k to be 3 inches taller. But the problem is that they break your legs, drill these metal rods into them, and slowing grow the bone that way. There ain't no way in hell I would subject myself to that for something "cosmetic." Potential side effects include never being able to walk again. Personlly, I think you have to have some serious height disorder (like drwarism) or some serious psychological problem to try limb lengthening. Check out their forum, is's under the "forums" section.
Galloping Ghost (no login) 172.150.59.36
Anybody got pics of kimi Yoko
August 9 2002, 12:32 AM
Hi,
I am 36 yr old dude, about 5'10 trying to get to 6' sometime, before I die and crumble to a 3" dust heap.
Its confusing reading these posts and making a decision because they alternate between, "yeah, it works, try it!!!", and "NO, ITS A SCAM!!!! STAY DA F**K AWAY!!"
I am just curious why nobody has thought to put an ACTUAL PICURE of these things (kimi connors/yoko ono) up so we can see what they look like, and probably, be able to construct them ourselves without having to come outta pocket of preciously scarce loot and possibly getting scammed.
In this day of webcams, digital cams, scanners, etc, its a wonderment nobody on this board in posession of these things have thought to put up pics for the benefit of everyone else.
Apparantly pictures of these things must be top secret because they are not even shown on the websites where they are being sold. The owners of these sites obviously realize that if they show pics, people will see how simple and cheap these devices are and wisely keep their loot pocketed, or try to make their own similarly simple contraptions.
Also, I have a question: If these devices work by stimulating the pituitary point on the soles of the foot, ala reflexology, why is the stimulating bulge located under the ARCH instead of the big toe? I saw a reflexlogy chart of the foot and the pituitary gland (responsible for growth hormones) simulation point is under the big toe, not the arch. Am I missing something here?
Frogger, you seem to be knowledgable and experienced with these things and growth in general (plus in possesion of the vaunted kimi) could you please respond to this post (also can you post a pic of your cherished and prized kimi?)
Also, anybody have the link for the "new 40 bonuses" secret URL for the kimi website? Like the site sez, the info seems to really be worth more than the main item being sold.
Galloping Ghost (no login) 172.150.59.36
Anybody got pics of kimi Yoko
August 9 2002, 12:34 AM
Hi,
I am 36 yr old dude, about 5'10 trying to get to 6' sometime, before I die and crumble to a 3" dust heap.
Its confusing reading these posts and making a decision because they alternate between, "yeah, it works, try it!!!", and "NO, ITS A SCAM!!!! STAY DA F**K AWAY!!"
I am just curious why nobody has thought to put an ACTUAL PICURE of these things (kimi connors/yoko ono) up so we can see what they look like, and probably, be able to construct them ourselves without having to come outta pocket of preciously scarce loot and possibly getting scammed.
In this day of webcams, digital cams, scanners, etc, its a wonderment nobody on this board in posession of these things have thought to put up pics for the benefit of everyone else.
Apparantly pictures of these things must be top secret because they are not even shown on the websites where they are being sold. The owners of these sites obviously realize that if they show pics, people will see how simple and cheap these devices are and wisely keep their loot pocketed, or try to make their own similarly simple contraptions.
Also, I have a question: If these devices work by stimulating the pituitary point on the soles of the foot, ala reflexology, why is the stimulating bulge located under the ARCH instead of the big toe? I saw a reflexlogy chart of the foot and the pituitary gland (responsible for growth hormones) simulation point is under the big toe, not the arch. Am I missing something here?
Frogger, you seem to be knowledgable and experienced with these things and growth in general (plus in possesion of the vaunted kimi) could you please respond to this post (also can you post a pic of your cherished and prized kimi?)
Also, anybody have the link for the "new 40 bonuses" secret URL for the kimi website? Like the site sez, the info seems to really be worth more than the main item being sold.
Froggers (Login Froggy1) Forum Owner 66.150.191.10
About posting pictures of Kimi.
August 9 2002, 10:14 AM
That's a good idea, in fact, I've been encouraging people to post pictures of EVERYTHING, like the bottles of B-growth, Prolex, all that stuff. But to be honest, I think people here really just don't have digital cameras. I don't have one, and I don't intend on buying one anytime soon, I'm poor. So there's your answer on that. I'm not sure why you made the sarcastic comment about my "cherished and prized Kimi," maybe you're joking, but in the context of putting a picture of it up on this forum, it didn't come accross that way. I think Kimi is the biggest scam on the planet.
But anyways, about your question as to why Kimi doesn't stimulate the big toe, they actually explain that in the "advanced explanations" portion of the website." But honestly, I think it's straight up bullshit.
But you know, one of the Kimi/Yoko websites actually does have a picture of it. I forget which one, but if you check each of the links at the top of this string, you'll find it. It's a pretty small picture, but it gives you an idea of what it looks like. I think anyone could totally make a similar device, but I'm not sure the concept itself is sound, so why waste your time.
banshee (no login) 203.106.151.155
arghh.. kimi..
August 16 2002, 7:51 AM
argh... i'm beginning to think that kimi is really a scam.. darn..
i bought it about a month ago or so.. and frankly, i did get about.. 1 cm during the 1st week.. at first i was kindda optimistic about but now, it's already more then a month after i've gained that extra 1 cm.. then i noticed that i'm not growing anymore. what the
heck is this? kimi only works on the first few days??
i wore it until i had my skin torn.. still no results.. damn
can anyone help me?? which damn height increase program will actually work?? btw, i'm a tight-budget guy.. so i need something both effective & cheap..
can anybody find that ??
Pattie (no login) 195.198.240.232
feet get f***** up??
October 3 2002, 1:21 PM
I wanna grow 2-3 inches, but I love my feet (vanity, but they are prettty..) and I don´t want them to get all messed up for nothing! Have ALL of you gotten those problems with your feet from wearing the Kimis? I´m 22 and I do stretching and it doesn´t make me taller, and I´m very tempted to try the kimi kiwi thing, I´ll be very grateful for advice
Froggers (no login) 169.232.226.50
Banshee, don't buy Kimi.
October 3 2002, 3:26 PM
It doesn't work. I'm pretty sure of it.
Pattie (no login) 195.198.240.232
does anything work
October 4 2002, 2:24 AM
Is there anything that can make you grow taller? or do I have to except being the height I am, I do stretches and Pilates and yoga, nothing works..
Oz (no login) 210.50.217.251
Other methods for growing taller???
January 15 2003, 11:07 PM
By the sounds of things, no one seems to of had any success growing from KIMI or YOKO. Are there any other natural methods for growing? Can stretching help at all? If so, what stretches would you recomend?
Thanks
Oz
(no login) 152.163.189.132
HEY GUYS
March 15 2003, 11:12 PM
Hey guys i just brought kimi about two days ago and the sameday i recieve it i started to wear it and for the first time wearing it i feel a rush of energy in my legs and it has been two days now since i was using it and i can feel pain in my knees and legs amazingly i havent feel any pain under my feet whatsoever after wearing it for the past two days i guess kimi does work for me and it can work for anyone who believe in it and who believe they can grow taller using it.It work for me and it can work for you too.Just trust and believe in yourself and at the end you wont regret it.GOOD LUCK TO ALL.
Batman (no login) 64.121.16.188
Kimi does work
March 16 2003, 7:13 PM
All it takes is the dedication and proper nutrition to go along with it. Of course, I take supplements with it, but only to maximize the effect it should have on me. So far I've grown 3 inches in the past 5 months and I'm movin my way on up to 6'. BTW, I'm still 16, 5'7" and becomin 17 in July. Hope I get at least 1 more inch before then.
1 question, why are the first 10 or so people @ the top of the post posted by the same person with different login names?
Anonymous (no login) 12.254.152.3
Re: Kimi and Yoko.
March 17 2003, 8:07 AM
I don't believe you that you said you grew 3 inches from kiwi because I wasited money on growing taller pills and cream did not grow a inch . Your only 16 so your probally still growing You could be a scammer for all I know or your still growing one of the too. I been stretching I plan to do it for a long time If I don't grow from stretching at least I can say I got some exercise from it. It's better than waisting your money on cream and pills they won't make you grow 1 cm.
Batman (no login) 64.121.16.188
No, no... it's Kimi.
March 17 2003, 8:20 PM
Both my parents are 5 inches smaller than me (I'm not adopted) and they are supplements, not "grow taller" pills. They are amino acids I ingest before I get to bed and they help a lot. I can almost feel an urge @ certain times when I sleep that I must be growing.
Kimi helps a lot too and thanks to kimi I've also lost a couple o' pounds.
Anonymous (no login) 12.254.152.3
Re: Kimi and Yoko.
March 18 2003, 9:59 AM
There no way kiwi make you taller I don't believe you. Your only 16 so your probally still growing. I spend alot of money on growing taller products. Did not grow 1 cm from it And first I kind of knew they were scams but I wanted to find out if they really work or not. People don't be dumb like I did and waist your money on pills and creams. You probally work for kiwi or your still growing It's people like you that got me to buy height increase products I did not grow from them. Products like this work be on the news sold in store not just the internet. Strethcing is the best way to go. I can't say that you will grow from stretching but you have to work really hard at it if you really want to grow.
Batman (no login) 64.121.16.188
Fine, don't believe me.
March 20 2003, 6:46 PM
But these items did help me. Granted, I'm still in that stage of adolescence and I maybe still growing from growing young, but I feel Kimi is helping that growth process work more efficiently in me.
(no login) 65.125.85.142
Hey Delisi and/or Batman!
April 9 2003, 8:02 AM
Hey guys I'm 17 and 5'8" I haven't grown since around eighth grade so I figured that we were all in the same boat. Please email me as I would like to know everything about what you have been doing that made you grow, so that I can have the same success. Her is my email address travisgreider@yaho.com Please respond to this message.
I fell for it cause they did respond to all my messages and did have a phone number etc so I doubted it was a scam. When i got the package and opened it, i almost cryed. They were so pathetic looking with lame ass print on the box done very amatuerish, and the insoles themselves were mass produced thin pieces of ugly green shit that were worth at most 5 bucks. After that point I pretty much lost all hope but i still wore them. Grow? No. Pain? yes i got fucking blisters from wearing that shit. Perhaps its all mental growth or something, like this product has a placebo effect. In anycase, I'm 16 and still growing so if KIMI works for people in their mid-late 20's it should have done wonders on me......but nooooo. Use this information anyway you wish
(no login) 24.71.223.142
Kimi with MFIII supplement
May 4 2003, 11:20 AM
Hi there, I am a 22 years old female. I have read a whole bunch of negative stuff about kimi. I have been using kimi for 25 days now, I do everything it shows me. I put it in my shoes and go everywhere with it. It did got me blister for the first two weeks. It also really hurts but somehow they are okay to me now. By the way, I talk to those people at kimi and they told me because I am a female and 22 I should use their MFIII supplement which claims to keep my growth plate longer. I have use one each morning, do 30 mins of stretching exercises ( which I got from their free bonuses) I think those stretching exercises are really good. Even though as up to date, I didn't really gain any height, I do feel more active and alive plus I can sleep better at night. I really don't want to say it doesn't work now because I haven't really try it for a long time. The people their are really supportive in answering all my questions though. I have already wasted about 800 Canadian in this product, the MFIII cost the most. So I don't know if it works, I will keep you guys updated though. You can email me at lisahanh@yahoo.com if any questions. Thanks.
SCAMMERS (no login) 200.81.15.171
<U><B><H5> WARNING!!!! THIS SCAM MESSAGE BOARD IS POSTING FAKE
May 19 2003, 8:13 PM
WARNING!!!! THIS SCAM MESSAGE BOARD IS POSTING FAKE MESSAGES AND TESTEMONIALS!
GUYS PLEASE BE ADVISED EVERYTHING POSTED IN THIS FORUM = FALSE STORIES AND SCAMS BY FROGGER …!
FROGGER IS THE OWNER OF GROWTH BOOSTER SHARP WWW.GROWTALL.COM...
You're below the scum of the earth for what you're doing to people. You barely deserve to be recognized as existing and you'll be forgotten long before you're dead. I guess unless you have something really interesting or insulting, I'm done with this. Are you scammers attracted to me or something? I mean why is it always us??
FROGGER IS A HACKER AND ALSO A SCAMMER FROM GROWTALL.COM – ( D’ONT BELVIEVE HIM & DON’T SHOW HIM YOU’RE IP) .
There is a moron by the name of FROGGY posting under different names, check out the old posts. They were all posted by FROGGY and all within the same hours or day. What a dumb ass. Hey guys, have you noticed how active they are lately? What do you think is going on with them?
Amril's Get
Forgger
usa00
gyarados
I've been taking the Sharp lab growth boosters from growtall.com for exactly 3 months now twice every day. So far I see no change in my height. . Even though I have experience no height increase from this product, there is something interesting I'd like to report So, these boosters are definitely doing nothing, because of all these obvious scams things that are happening. At this point I don't know if they will refund me since I got no reply to my refund and I reported them. So far I haven't gained a single cm. Their website claims that it takes about 2 months for results to be seen. I guess I'll keep an open mind on my lawyer. I will continue bringing you updates about this product.
LATER…!
Batman U mentioned Amino acids before going ot bed...!
July 31 2003, 1:26 AM
Hey am 16 and i also use Kimi everyday for 2 days and swear to god thi smorning i measured my height and i thought i grew 1 cm...well myabe its to early to measure or it was beacuse the last time i checked it at night nad yesterday i cheked in the morning anyways...i wana know wchich amino acids do you use ..plz respond!
Roger Y. (no login) 218.80.41.246
Can someone share your experience?
August 12 2003, 8:28 AM
Hi,
Does anyone over 30 still got some gain in height after using Kimi and MFIII? Please let me know how long have you been using these products.
Roger Y.
Anonymous (no login) 141.157.198.232
Re: Kimi and Yoko.
February 13 2006, 8:22 AM
bumperama!
Anonymous (no login) 141.157.198.232
Re: Kimi and Yoko.
February 13 2006, 5:09 PM
bumpeeshump!
shareef (no login) 82.3.32.75
YOKO
February 20 2006, 12:42 PM
ive bought this product, what do i have to do to maximise my growth?
I've used kimi and its simply a scam. To learn more about Human Height please visit the following website. It has all the information arranged in the form of FAQs:
NOW MY QUESTION IS THAT IS THERE ANY PERSON MATURE ENOUGH TO TELL ME IF HE USED KIMI MFIII AND ALL OTHER BONUS PRODUCTS AT THAT AGE(24 YRS OF AGE) AND GOT TALLER????
IS THERE ANY CENTRE IN CHINA OR JAPAN FOR KIMI PRODUCTS
I HAVE CONTACT WITH USA DOCTORS FOR KIMI AND MFIII THEY REPLIED I CANT STILL GET 2 OR 3 CMS YET..SO ++++++TO EXCLUDE SCAMS I NEED U PPL HELP ME AND OTHERS