Hello,

I'd just like to pass on something I have discovered quite by accident while taking the herb Alfalfa. I started taking it in March this year after hearing about its considerable health benefits. About 3 months of taking generous doses of it a day, I did indeed feel healthier all round, but also became aware that I seemed to be looking at the world from a slightly higher viewpoint than usual, and that I was looking down at a friend who'd been at my own eye level previously. If I'd just bought a differnt pair of shoes (or he had), then I probably wouldnt have thought too much of this, but this hadnt happened!

Now in October after continuing taking the herb, the effect is yet more pronounced, and indeed getting myself measured tells me I am now over 6ft 1" instead of the pushing 5ft 11" I used to be! This is remarkable because I am 32 and according to popular medical opinion I should have stopped growing a LONG time ago. However theres no arguing with being measured with tape measure while standing barefoot - I am TALLER.

Looking at the info out there on Alfalfa, I see its described as a powerful natural stimulator of growth hormone, so it seems to fit exactly with whats happened. Other supplements I've been taking since earlier this year may well have also had an influence : Sea Kelp; L'arginine, and a fully comprehensive all-in-one vit and mineral supplement.

So, if at this stage of my life its possible to add height (my hands have also increased in size), then for abnormally short infants/teenagers the growth potential should be far greater.

I was using a considerable amount of Alfalfa - as much as 20 tablets a day (the bottle guidleines say '9 or more a day'), and there may well be a slight risk to taking this much (acromegaly and other conditons can result from too much growth hormone ), but my health seems very good nonetheless. So cheap too - at only £3.50 a bottle from health shops here in the UK.

I urge people visiting here to investigate this, as I feel sure it has strong capabilty to help those people whose lives feel blighted as a result of their height.

Good luck all,

Kaneka

Kaneka,

Although it sounds exciting that you were able to gain 2 inches at age of 32 by taking Alfalfa, we'd like to know more about your experience.

In this and any other growth forum, there is always somebody came out of nowhere and claimed a success in gaining height. It's proven later on that this person did it just for scamming or for fun. We are so sick and tired of people doing these kinds of stupid things. We are in the forum looking for a way to gain height. We don't wanna be jerked around and mislead.

2 inches in 3 months is a growth spurt. We know at age of 32 there is no growth spurt left for your growth plate is fused. So if your experience is real, Would you please let us know:
1) what get you start taking Alfalfa?
2) why are you taking 20 tablets which is double of the bottle-guideline recommended?
3) Do you do any excercises besides taking those vitamins and supplements?
4) Did you recommend Alfalfa to any of your family, friends, or relatives? And did anyone of them had the same success as you have?
5) would you mind coming back to this forum regularly and answer questions?

We people in this froum really appreciate help from people with successful experience.

How many tabs in 1 bottle?
I know doctors repute grow hormone can't help groth after 22/25.
So you can elevate the GH as much as is possible, it wont make variance.
Otherways let me know where I can try this online the I'll discover.
I'm Italian.
Hope you aren't another scammer.
thanks
later...

What's the brand you taken of ALFALFA?
Was it ebstract of herb alfalfa or a composed of many ingredients?
If you'll prove us what you say, I'll immediately take alfalfa.
thanks...

Hello again,

Heh, I understand you guys are going to be sceptical, as I certainly would be. No doubt you've had a lot of b/s thrown your way by all sorts of charlatans wanting to make money off your desire to be taller - everywhere theres a need, theres a scammer.

I know its rare but I'm just a person who gives a damn about others. Thats the ONLY reason for me putting something up here for you people to look at and consider - I know how cruel false hope can be, so would never feed people knowingly false information just for money or just as bad, kicks. I benefitted (in an unexpected way), and just wanted to pass on what I'd discovered.

Max - you read my post a little too quickly, because I didnt say I was 6ft 1 after 3 months! I merely noticed a difference in my height. Now in October, after getting meaured up, I'm 6ft 1. Granted it still qualifies as an astounding growth spurt for someone in their early thirties, but on the other hand I remember reading several doctors online saying the plates could theoretically stay open until the late 20s and possibly beyond. People age at a different rate, depending on so many varying factors and perhaps I've aged slower due to my long standing habits of eating very healthily, taking a wide variety of supplements, and avoiding smoking, drug taking and alcohol almost completely (apart from the odd tipple of wine and liquor ), thus giving me a wider time-frame to develop in.

Anyway, received medical/scientific wisdom isnt always fixed, as anyone whose read a bit will know. For example, formally it was alleged that the formation of new brain cells after the mid 20s wasnt possible, but now neuroscientists say it IS. Cloning of a human was poo-pooed as 'impossible', now it can be done. And dont forget that Science once held that the sun revolved around the Earth, and anyone saying otherwise was at risk of being burned alive.

I'll give you another personal example.... I had appalling tinnitus (ringing in the ears), for years - a condition supposedly untreatable in Western medicine. It was maddening - Ive even heard stories of people throwing themselves out of windows in desperation to end the suffering it can inflict in severe cases. Then reading a book on traditional Chinese Healing, I found a method, and after 3 months or so I was cured! I now only need to do the exercise every now and then to keep the symptoms at bay.

Moral : scepticism is a very useful thing, but so is keeping an open mind.

"1) what get you start taking Alfalfa? "

I started taking Alfalfa when I heard of its repetition as 'King of all foods'. I was intrigued, so investigated , and read that it is an extremely powerful stimulant of growth hormone, and that taking it benefits the body in many ways, including going some way to beat the toll ageing takes on the body. Also I read that it promotes BONE GROWTH and muscle development, by stimulating the pituitary gland. Bone development IS possible for even people in their 60s and beyond, as the research on the condition known as Acromegaly will testify. People will this 'disorder' bones grow wider as a result of too much growth hormone. Wedding rings will no longer get on fingers; hats and shoes will no longer fit - even the nose often gets bigger!

http://www.kcweb.com/herb/alfalfa.htm

http://aolsearch.aol.co.uk/web?query=acromegaly+symptoms&isinit=true



[Just Google and youll see plenty of info to peruse].


I've been naturally quite scrawny since birth, and I wanted to bulk out - thus the strong interest.

2) "why are you taking 20 tablets which is double of the bottle-guideline recommended? "

Well the instruction actually read exactly like this :

'take 3 or more tablets with each meal'

No upper dose is stated! I cautiously upped the dose to 20 daily gradually, on the look out for any adverse effects. Sometimes I felt fatigued, but I took so many because I wanted to maximise what growth potential I had left, so it was a small price to pay for any such pay off.

I noticed I stated to get strong sensations in my face and head which were like the growing pains I remembered from adolescence, but much more powerful. These have been so persistant and strong that I reduced my dose dramically when I noticed my face had broadened somewhat, then measured the circumference of my skull which had increased by over half an inch (very significant!)

I must say though, be very cautious about taking the kind of dose I was necking. Though I'm fine and actually feel better than I have for a long time, I cant say with authority everyone else would be. Have a look at the thread above from the guy who says he knows his medicine/biology

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=189510&messageid=1089472016&lp=1097380248

and read up a lot about the effects and risks of NATURAL growth hormone (such as symptoms mimicking acromegaly), then weigh it all up in your own mind and decide on what limits youre willing to set. Be careful, and do your research!

3) "Do you do any excercises besides taking those vitamins and supplements?"

I'm very intrigued by the special stretching exercises Ive become aware of since having a look at forums like this, and I'll probably try them out of curiosity, but no, I hadnt been doing any of them in this period - after all, I wasnt specifically looking to get taller (though it was very welcome bonus effect!).

4)" Did you recommend Alfalfa to any of your family, friends, or relatives? And did anyone of them had the same success as you have? "

Well, I recently recommended Alfalfa to a friend but only for general well being as he's quite tall already - and most of my family are pretty tall anyway, so its only on a few places like this Ive been enthusiastic about it. But I'm sure other health substances have an effect too. Again look into all the various supplements on the (legal and safe) market - youll be surprised by how many things can contribute to growth.

Omega 3 acids (a great source is found in Faxsee oil), evening primrose oil, ginseng, kelp (iodine rich) and a myriad of other things help the body build and rebuild itself. Even if you only grow a little, your whole health will certainly blossom as a result of a judicious spending on health supplements, so itll be worth your modest investment.

5) "would you mind coming back to this forum regularly and answer questions? "

I cant come back every day (very busy), but sure, I'll answer as best I can - I only wanted to offer a bit of help to others who want to change

Kaneka

Excuse the typos in the above post. Or should I say, essay


Oh, nearly forgot this...


"How many tabs in 1 bottle?"

The brand Ive been taking from 'Holland and Barrett' have 250 in them fro £3.50 a pop (2.99 online).

But ah, before anyone thinks about pointing the scam/profit finger, Ive ONLY mentioned a brand now someone has asked me specifically - I DO NOT work for them or any other manufacturer! In fact I'd say use whatever health outlet is generally trusted in whatever country youre in. Here in the UK, H+B is the most high profile brand, and their stuff will have been through countless tets for safety.

Check em out if you theres nowhere else you trust to get it from:

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/Categories.asp?xs=&CID=21

Kaneka

Kaneka, thanks a lot for your replies.

After reading your replies to my questions, I got the feeling that you are a very sincere person and really want to help people with your success in gaining height.

Sorry for asking those intimidating questions. I purposely did that for I've seen too many false-claim posts from people that just tried to scam, mislead, or have fun. A scammer then always either disappears or replies with more lies or emotional responses.

I'd like to re-direct your post to the 'The Impartial Height Increase Message Board'. The forum is very active and has a lot of people involved regularly.

If you have time, please come to the forum to take a look:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/177048

Thanks again.

I'm sorry Kaneka, nowhere on the bottle does it say to take 3 more, it even says DO NOT EXCEED 3 tablets.

javascript:open_window('/vf/labels/002373HB.pdf')

coppy and paste that, or click on your own link of the site, and click on 'info' in the alfalfa tablets.
it's a pdf file so you will need acrobat, and then look on the right side.


Again, thanks for coming around, we are not doubting you, we just want to learn more!

Just thought I'd quickly drop by to see if there was any response, and I see there is!

No problemo Max - I see your point of view exactly about the kind of crap you must be confronted with a lot of the time. Just like the get rich schemes and penis pumps etc - the net is teeming with people devoid of scruples trying to get into your wallet. Yes, I am sincere - I think people can be wayyy too selfish with sharing whats helped them.

Will have a good look at that forum when Ive got some more spare time - right now I need a 34 hour day!

But before I go, I clearly need to address smalldude's point with the dosage of Alfalfa. Well, this is a turn up! you know, youre absolutely right fellah! I downloaded the Pdf and lo and behold, what you quote is right on that bottle.

Jeez!

But I swear, what I quoted IS on THIS bottle I bought from one of their stores a couple of weeks ago! The only explanation I can think of is that theyve had a rethink, and then changed the labelling to be on the cautious side - we all know how big companies want to avoid the 'litigation culture' we live in now - because mine DEFINITELY says '3 or more tablets with each meal'.

Can I upload images here, as I want to prove this - I'll take a snap of the bloody thing and demonstrate! Heh.

Ahah, Ive had an idea! I'll upload to imageshack and do this right now!

Hang on a sec....BRB

I couldnt fit all the text in the photo, but you can see the 'take 3...' bit!

I can always take another pic to show the other side in full if theres any more doubt

Gotta go chaps. Later!

Kaneka

Ok you're 100% legit now Kaneka ... thanks for telling us about your success! There's only a few of you people who would actually come down here to tell us about their success, but you are one of those kind hearted people. God bless, and thanks again.

as everyone already stated, thanks for the info and we really appreciate it
i have a question: u say u took 20 tablets daily, can u please tell me how much that equates in mg or grams? how many mgs of alfalfa does each tablet contain?

ok nevermind, it says right on the bottle there, sorry
its 500 mg so u took 10000mg daily or 10 grams

Kaneka,

A question for you. In your 2nd post, you have mentioned several benefits of using Alfalfa.

They are very interesting but I can't find those information (in internet). Do you remember where you have seen them?

-- an extremely powerful stimulant of growth hormone
-- to beat the toll ageing takes on the body
-- promotes BONE GROWTH and muscle development
-- stimulating the pituitary gland
-- Bone development IS possible for even people in their 60s and beyond

Simulating growth hormone has not been shown to increase final adult height but it will definitely make you grow like no-one's business for the first year of taking GH ( especially the injectable recombined form )

About alfafa, I don't know what it is, but there's no reason why the person here is a scammer or anything. He/she is not promoting any specific brand or anything, so there's no way he/she profits from this! Thats my main point behind this post. Please don't dismiss someone as a scammer so easily, especially when the person doesn't promote and specific company!

Oh you have no idea, Dennis . I used to be just like you awhile ago. But then I saw threads like "Toothpaste made me gain 2 inches!"-there's no brand name associated with that. And posts like "I grew 3 inches, you need to sleep 4 hrs a day one month and 8 hrs a day next month". Some of these people were just messing around the board...and needed to get a life.

Hmm, you fellahs arent going to swallow this Alfalfa without KGB style interrogation by the looks of it!

Well, its all good but I cant say I'm impressed with smalldude seemingly hinting that I might be in the same bracket as the guy saying toothpaste was the answer - come on, that person was clearly having a pretty harmless joke - a little satire on some of the more ludicrous bullshit people are sometimes expected to believe. Only 5 year olds are going to think THATS serious!

However, if what I'VE written is a joke, it would have to be the most elaborate yet witnessed anywhere in the world of height gain! Believe it, I really dont have the time or inclination to blow this much time on typing for the sake of it!

Anyway, I'm not that precious that I'll get offended by people questioning my motives here or anywhere. Nobody's been flat out rude to me, so on with a bit more detail for those who want it :


Maybe it was my very high level (likely excessive) intake that caused my surprising upward growth; but the most noticeable growth in me has been in WIDTH - my hands, face and head have grown proportionally MORE than my height. You must be prepared for this effect when taking high levels of subtances that promote pituitary gland secretion (which results in extra GROWTH HORMONE), and monitor yourself closely as you experiment with increased doses because any changes will be PERMANENT. You may well want to discuss your intake with someone who knows medicine well, then decide how much youre willing to take.

Like I said before, CAUTION is the order of the day - tread carefully!

It was a while ago when I was looking up info on all this, and I didnt bookmark all I'd read, but I Googled again just now for as much as my limited spare time right now will allow and got some stuff that will better highlight what Ive been saying. I hope youre grateful for this!

http://www.purlife.com/medicago.htm

http://www.moondragon.org/health/disorders/growthdisorders.html

http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/a/ac/acromegaly.html

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/articles/38312-2.asp

http://www.pituitary.com/disorders/acromegaly.aspx

http://health.allrefer.com/health/acromegaly.html

http://www.cushings-help.com/acromegaly-symptoms.htm


The links below are talking about Alfalfa in relation to plant development, but its still interesting reading, and further backs the assertion that the herb has a lot of influence on the growth of living things...

http://www.ars.org/explore.cfm/fertilizing/alfalfatea

http://hostafaq.westside.com/wsContentPublisher/story.view?RowId=16

Smalldude - you may well be right that there are other things which will stimulate production of HGH just as well, and possibly more (such as l'arginine), but the thing with Alfalfa is that it seems to be widely regarded as safe to take even in high doses. Maybe it was THIS factor that allowed me to take so much of it, without much apparent adverse effect.

More research in this area needs to be done. There are probably substances and foods lurking out there which help but arent well known about. The point of me putting all Ive written up though is just point to what has changed me. I just hope it can change others too.

Now people, if you will.... *do some Googling of your own!!*

It says it increases the rate of photosynthesis though!

If this guy grew at age 32, it has nothing to do with alfalfa. If his plates are closed, and they well should have been, alfalfa is not going to magically open them and make the bone grow. Some people DO continue to grow throughout their lives because they have rare conditions which cause their plates to never quite close, such as Robert Wadlow or Andre the Giant. But, these people usually suffer from this and die early. Anyway...

Sorry, even if this guy isn't promoting anything, I don't buy the story. There is NO magic pill or potion! Lots of people don't even realize how tall they are and then finally get measured and it's not what they thought. Or, they think they are a certain height and their not. You'd be surprised how many people don't know how tall they are. A girl I work with says she's 5'8" and she's no taller than me. I am 5'6" and 1/2 - measured several times at the doctor. My dad told me a story about thinking he was only 5'6" and then he got measured and he was 5'8".

The point I"m making is a lot of people don't know how tall they are, so this guy might have already been taller than he thought. Don't know what to say about the hands, but who really notices if their hands are bigger?

Anyway, I don't buy it. Sorry...

sf...ur saying this as if he's trying to fool you into getting something or doing somethin u dont want. Its simply his story, is it true? i personally think it is. Just look at the facts: why would someone who is a scammer(or joker) come back repeatedly and answer questions thrown at him? have u ever seen a "faker" put up a picture of any sort that backs up his story? these and many other subtle details about his story make him believable.
and u mean to tell me that you wouldnt notice if ur hands got bigger? OF COURSE YOU WOULD, their right infront of your face, you look at them and wash them(i hope lol) many times a day.
as for the bit about "not knowing your height", its a fact that males living in western society (i.e. North America and some of Europe including U.K) worry about their height and are constently aware of it, so it almost imposible to go 12 years after puberty is finished(im assuming that its done at 20)not knowing how tall you are...this is a frequently asked question and not alot of people can get away with lying about their height, even if their miss informed about their height someone will eventually correct them.

SF how ya been man! Long time no post!...Kaneka meet our ONLY other 35 year old to grow . Ooooo boy I sense competition lol. Anyways SF, no Kaneka's story might be very well true;

FACT: Alfafa raises HGH levels.
FACT: High HGH levels contribute to bone growth.
FACT: Some people do have complete plate fusion around 40s. Rare...I would say.
FACT: We see some acremolagy signs in him, which obviously means that he skyrocketed his HGH levels.

do you still happened to have the 72 strecthing journal, and if you do, can you send it to me jason_badwal@hotmail.com and if you cant where can,I buy it from,or purchase it from. thanks in advance.

what you said was very true - acromegaly can be a deadly disease.

It's been a long time to finally hear from you. Keep in mind that
it was not Sky's intention to diss you directly. Hopefully you
could dust off the shoulder & forget about it.

Your comments are, in fact, different from others. Therefore,
that's what makes the height forum more interesting ~ Controversy
& arguments can be good things ~.

Thanks,

Stephen
EasyHeight Support Team
webmaster@easyheight.com

Dennis :

Thanks for your words supporting my integrity earlier, but I'm not sure what your point is here One of the articles also says this :

" We feel that the use of alfalfa meal has played an important part in our plants growing to tremendous size."

sf :

Well, yes, most people may have had their plates fused a lot earlier than their 30s. I was as surprised as any of you are by this! But I cant think of any other explanation beyond the supplements I was taking. I take your point about PERCEIVED height, but I was measured before and was just under 5 11. I've had someone Ive known for a long time saying "Oooh, youre looking TALL!" Then there's the looking above a friend who was the same height as me until the period in question. smalldude says you grew even though youre older than me! Whats the story...?

N:

Thanks for the confidence

Okay, here's the link to the huge amount I wrote on the other forum for the people who want the full scoop about this :


http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=177048&messageid=1097883300

I am going to try this Alfafa supplement as well. Since it's so cheap.

How does it taste?
Colostrum tastes like milk powder so i actually take it daily no problem.
However, i dont think its making my bones any longer except that it removes fat and increases muscle.
Better not be salty like Glucosamine sulfate.

Since i can't swallow i'll gotta chew it so taste is very important.


Thanks.

Ok you stated that it makes body parts such as your nose grow bigger?

Now when I take this pill I dont want parts of my body like my nose growing larger. I just want a few extra inches.

Can you clear this up for me

Anonymous -

You serious that the taste makes a big difference?? Youre not a girl are you...? Hehe, just foolin' wit ya

These tabs taste of virtually *nothing*, so no need to sweat it!

.......

distant -

I get you not wanting your schnozz to balloon in size! Hmm, I think my nose is larger than it was width ways anyhow; not quite sure if its grown more than the rest of face and head has though...

Anyway, you can check out a recent photo of myself I submitted on the other 'Impartial Height Increase' forum :


http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=177048&messageid=1097883300


If youre still in your teens then you can probably be very certain your growth will be totally proportional ie ALL of your body parts will grow in line with each other. Read the other threads I'm in at that forum for further info.

I totally believe in this story. However, this must be an esporadic event. I mean, probably noone else will gain height by taking an alfalfa supplement.

I bought 120 capsules of alfalfa today :D

Also..

"
HERBS

* Alfalfa is a valuable source of vitamins, minerals and other nutrients that promote the proper functioning of the pituitary gland. It can be taken in tablet or capsule form, as well as be eaten in a natural form such as alfalfa sprouts. "


Off http://www.moondragon.org/health/disorders/growthdisorders.html

Think your onto something kaneda!!

Kaneka sorry. lol.

Well - I guess that's what I'm all about - CONTROVERSY!!!

Actually, to provide a little more mature, and level-head opinion at times. Not to put anyone down, but when you're young, and desperately want to grow, you might believe about anything and try anything.

Yes, I know Kaneka is not trying to sell anything. But, I just don't believe that suddenly eating alfalfa caused anyone to grow at age 32. We do LOTS of things that raise/produce hgh throughout our lives - sleep, exercise, etc. So, during those 12 or so years that Kaneka stopped growing, his body was producing plenty of hgh over the years, and I don't believe a sudden input of alfalfa caused him to grow.

And, once your bones are fused, no amount of hgh will re-open the plates and cause you to grow.

As for Sky, I still think his routine is dangerous and misinformed, and I really don't know what he said about me, cause I stopped coming here for a while. Yes, call me Mister Naysayer, but I am just trying to be level-headed. Believe me - I would love for everyone who is short (especially males) to grow taller. It IS somewhat of a handicap, unfortunatley, in many situations, no matter what your attitude.

Kaneka - don't mean to put you down, sorr for my disbelief.

Someone asked me about the stretching exercises I did. I got them from a book that's been discussed many times on this same forum - Kalsi's journal. I don't promote it, and have said, many times, that there used to be lots of free journals on these site to try that probably would work as well. Sorry, can't give you the book, but try a free stretching journal. I've said it before, and I'll say it again- the stretching IS permanent of you stick with it....

John said:

"I totally believe in this story. However, this must be an esporadic event. I mean, probably noone else will gain height by taking an alfalfa supplement."

Thanks, but no-one else is likely to gain height if they dont TRY it! Maybe all wont grow, but I bet that at least some will.

sf is right about people wanting desperately to believe in just about anything though. Thats why I hesitated for about a month before I finally decided to talk about this. I wanted to be sure I hadnt deceived myself.

"Yes, I know Kaneka is not trying to sell anything. But, I just don't believe that suddenly eating alfalfa caused anyone to grow at age 32. We do LOTS of things that raise/produce hgh throughout our lives - sleep, exercise, etc. So, during those 12 or so years that Kaneka stopped growing, his body was producing plenty of hgh over the years, and I don't believe a sudden input of alfalfa caused him to grow."

But sf, how can you conclude I'd stopped growing completely? Actually I was measured at 5ft 10 when I was 20! It may not be just taking Alfalfa, but taking HIGH levels of it which in turn led to inflated levels of GH that precipitated this startling result.

Good luck Paul and anyone else set to try this out.

Yah the only thing I don't understand is if you didn't reach your final adult height for so many years, all that HGH from sleep and exercise shouldve SLOWLY brought you up to 6'1. See what I'm saying? Like you would've grown 0.2 inches every year but you would finally get there. Maybe that BOOST of hGH is the only way your body panicks and starts growing. Kaneka, you think you might be HGH deficient in your teen years? Did you sleep less/no exercise and had a lot of body fat lol?

hey people do you know any girl who take HGH. I ask my friend's personal trainer the other day about it and he said HGH is only for guys. i dont know if this is true or not. I was thinking of buying tha Alfalfa but it is similar to HGH so i want to make sure first...

I bought Alfalfa last Wednesday (10/13). The bottle says to take 1-4 capsules during meals. I'm taking 4 at lunch and 4 at dinner, each capsule with 500 mg.

Your trainer does not know what he/she is talking about. Both men and women need and product hgh naturally. It is no specific to males. Also, both sexes may benefit from hgh supplements, etc. Maybe your trainer was focusing more on hgh as a booster for weightlifting?

heh thanks sf, yeh I also heard that Prolex really works. I am actually trying to increase my bone density too. U heard anything about it?!

Prolex does not work! It's a scam!

However, their customer service always repply to e-mails and they give refunds back (as long as you insist A LOT)... I know it from my personal experience (in the past).

Kaneka, I hope you are right about Alfalfa and some ppl grow with it! I really hope so! Unfortunately, I am not as confident as you, but I will be very happy if I have to say I was wrong, in March/April!

Yes, Prolex IS a scam. Any of those producsts - Prolex, B-growth are scams.

And, I am not recommending any hgh supplements, injections or sprays, just telling you that both males and females need and produce hgh...

ahh..thanks Guys, i ordered alfalfa today, will update you with results.

"Yah the only thing I don't understand is if you didn't reach your final adult height for so many years, all that HGH from sleep and exercise shouldve SLOWLY brought you up to 6'1. See what I'm saying? Like you would've grown 0.2 inches every year but you would finally get there. Maybe that BOOST of hGH is the only way your body panicks and starts growing. Kaneka, you think you might be HGH deficient in your teen years? Did you sleep less/no exercise and had a lot of body fat lol?"


....

Hmm, I dont quite see what your angling at here. I was 5ft 11 at the start of the year.

NOW, I'm 6ft 1.

So what has changed in that period of time? Only my introduction of Alfalfa and Kelp (plus a bit of arginine later on). That boost of GH as a result of the high Alfalfa intake stimulating the pituitary gland is what I've been postulating all along!

If I'd been GH dficient in my teen years I dont think I'd have made it to just over 5 10! I certainly didnt undersleep (always liked plennnty of sleep!), got pretty good exercise, and no, I definitely wasnt a porker!

I'd like to direct you to this thread on the Impartial Board, where names are being collected for studying this herb's influence on height :

http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=177048&messageid=1098639286

Good luck!

Hey I have to register to post on there so if i grow I'll make sure to tell you..
I'm 18, 182cm atm or 6ft..now taking alfalfa along with, multivit, glucosomine, creatine, l-glutamine and whey/caseinate protein...

Although I really want a bit more growth.. with the exception of alfalfa the rest of the stuff there is for general nutrition and assistance in training for sport. Strength, power etc.

I dont seem to have grown much maybe 1 cm'ish in the last year so if I have a growth spurt from alfalfa I should be able to tell.. I grew about 3 inches 16-17 though.. was lucky i guess :P

"If you masturbate or have sex more than 2 times a week, please also indicate as it will slow down your growth rate significantly."

geez I better slow down then :P I take a zinc supplement around 15-25mg (half a tablet) a day to combat what dennis said about losing zinc which plays an important role in growth.

Sorry that post was from me aswell.. if a mod is here just delete this post and add my name to the above post if u can thx.

I still have like 20 or so grams of Colostrum left. I'm going to combine that with alfafa and see what results I get. I'm going to buy alfafa tomorrow. I'll just take the equivalent of 10g from Day 1 and see.

Kaneka, I have 1 question:

How did u manage to take 20 a day?You said you eat only 3 meals a day and you take that with the alfafa. So 7 per meal?

Wouldn't it be better if you say took 3 each meal then when you don't eat a big meal like fruits/snacks or just fasting just take alfafa?
Since by eating only 3 meals and putting so much alfafa into your digestive system at once not all of its nutrients will be absorbed.

Such as it is a known fact that for most people about 600mg of calcium can be absorbed by the body at a time.

at http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=177048&messageid=1098635973 it said u took 7 each for 3 meals.

i signed up on that forum before but now they had a login system. It isannoying because i have to close my firewall so that the dumb popup that tells you to install gator spyware comes up. so ill only post on this forum because you dont need to login

http://www.naturalfactors.com/product_details.asp?l=&ac=&id=104&cat=17
Alfalfa (Medicago sativa) is a superior source of vitamins, minerals and protein and is considered an estrogen precursor. It is an excellent source of chlorophyll, vitamins B1, B6, B12, E, K, beta carotene, amino acids and plant enzymes. Its deep roots absorb minerals that other plants are unable to access, such as silicon, magnesium, potassium, iron, phosphorus and other trace minerals. Alfalfa also contains saponins, sterols (bactasitosterol, stigmasterol and alpha-spinasterol), flavonoids, and coumarins. The coumarins and isoflavones exhibit estrogenic activity. Termed the great healer, it has been traditionally used to treat stomach ailments, digestive disturbances and arthritis.

I went Alfafa shopping today. I went to GNC and the salesperson didn't know what Alfafa was. So, i went to NutritionHouse, supplement store in Canada.
I bought 500 Tablets of 650mg(325g total) Organic Alfafa for $20.00

I chose the cheapest one there because I told myself. I'm going to take 10g from Day1 so even the crappiest brand should get some effect.

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Controversial here, not trying to disrespect Dennis about his theory that estrogen is the main factor for early growth plate fusion but Alfafa has isoflavones(estrogen look-a-like)which release estrogen to the body.

Now, it could be many reasons. I'll name a few. First the isoflavones, chemical properties is similar to human estrogen but has no effect on human estrogen at all. This could also relate to Bovine Colostrum where the igf-1 from the cows are similar to human igf-1 but not the same. If that is so, how do i explain the fat loss, muscle gain come from? Also, many studies and daily people know to prevent breast cancer or help breast cancer pain or heal the effects of menopause they should take Soy products. Soy is isoflavones.

Secondly, could be Dennis' theory doesn't work. Estrogen is not responsible for growth as much as genetics are.

Thirdly, Kaneka's growth plate are still open and the 7 months of estrogen like isoflavones he took have no effect on growth plate closure or now he has just beginning the effect of closure of the growth plates.

Finally, the Naturalfactors company posting Bullshit on their website.
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Whatever reason it may be. I already chewed 3 tablets out of 15 for total. I'm going to do the equivalent of 10g per day + 500mg of colostrum i need to finish.

BTW, Alfafa tastes bitter, chewy like nuts or pistachios, and just has a strong tea smell. But it tastes nothing if u drink it with water or eat with food.

Reply back with questions if u want

hey bubbletea. I bought some alfalfa yesterday and took 8 tablets before bed. I'm gonna go for 10 tablets a day (6.5g), 10g right away seems too much for me. I've read that taking 2 much alfalfa can lead to lupus. Anyways let us know how u feel and if u get any results.

Ok Dan keep us updated, on any inches coming in. Also you might you want to start low, and then increase gradually. That is what Kaneka did. I think it's a important point because the body does get used to the same dose.

Are you talking about taking 20 tablets from the word go..? Erm, this probably isnt advisable, as your body isnt going to be used to such a massive sudden change as smalldude points out. Getting up to that much over the course of 2 months would be far less risky.

Yes, I took 7 a meal when I'd built up to my peak dosage. You may have a point about maximum absorption, and taking it a bit more evenly through the day may well be better (though its not always convenient when youre busy).

Dan:
So far I've taken 15 tablets a day for 3 days.
I've succesfully mastered how to jam the tablet
in to the mouth to swallow it. That way it tastes
nothing. I take 2-7 doses a time for 3+ doses a day.
About 15-30mins i feel my legs weakening, tired
and sometimes vibrating/tingling. I've not had any
symptoms in the upperbody.

smalldude, Kaneka:
I searched on the internet for Alfalfa. It is a plant that is sold just like vegetables like bok choy, lettuce, asparagus, etc.
1 thing I noticed in the Alfalfa tablet is. When u chew the powdery part of the tablet. What's left? Alfalfa green leaves. Like 3 thin pieces = 650mg

I can't find the plant at my local supermarkets. Perhaps they banned it in Canada or something. But some guy already said on the Joey's Growing Taller Forum, Can't you just buy alfalfa sprouts?That's weird if such a product were to be sold in stores with such dangers. I'd expect it to be alot cheaper then buying supplement Alfalfa and you can get 10g per dose no problem. Although I don't know how you can measure your doses unless you got some sweet ass digital balancer.

Yes. I know that most medicines the body needs to build slowly at low doses then go big if neccesary. But everyone's body is different. I have a high metabolism rate, i think. I'm only 115 lbs for a 17 year old. That's way underweight. It's not like I'm fasting and not eating alot. I am always the last eater in any buffet or restaurant because i suspect that my body uses so much of the food i digest for energy. I eat a high protein. Some days, i maybe lacking dairy, vegetables/fruits in my diet but protein is always there. Something's weird though, the meat i intake have amino acids and should have more than enough amino acids such as L-lysine and L-arginine to trigger those effects I talked about. Could just be L-lysine & l-arginine competing for same receptor just like smalldude and many studies show.

Well, if you want to start big, that's fine, but do up the dose in awhile.

Well I did sum research for lupus and it turns out that if u do eat a lot of alfalfa, for long periods of time you will start to show signs of lupus ( drug-induced). The good thing though is that as soon as u stop taking the tablets it goes away withing a couple of days and u can resume again.

http://www.lupus.org/education/brochures/drug.html


I think that we're going at high doses from the very start because we're impatient and want results...me at least. However kaneka and smalldude might be right...I'm gonna go for 9 tablets a day...3 per meal, and later inscrease the dosage. I don't really feel any different after taking them...The hard part is swallowing them. First day I ate them, and then I decided that it would be wiser to swallow them..not very easy but I'll get used to it.

My theory is that if I stretch the legs..( I use the total gym 1000, put my legs at the upper end and lie back, pull myself a little up and let go so that my legs get pulled or stretch a bit)..and with alfalfa stimulating the pituitary, the growth hormone will act mostly where its needed..ie at the legs that want to get longer or so I hope!

Thanks for the information.
I don't know if its Lupus or just growing pains during puberty growth spurt as described by Kaneka. I'm going to just take a steady 10g a day. For like 1 or 2 months and see if there's any other symptoms.
I'm going to just go with the saying "Go by 1 day at a time" and not really care which part I want to grow.

Man, if i knew those tired legs was a symptom of growth spurt. I should have went to the doctor and get some pills or something to maximize my potential growth. Perhaps I was just lacking the nutrients at that time. Oh well time can't be reversed so time to move on. I'm just aiming for 5'7-5'8. You get respected at that age and no one really calls you short.

I brought Alfalfa the 2 days ago, I took 6 tablets in total on the first day, I'll probably max it to 9 tablets tommorow hmmm I hope this thing works gulp.

so what is everyone's result for taking Alfafal???? Anyone??? HellooooOooo?

They all just started...

Bubbletea you're actually one of those people that have a really nice endo, and you can get x-rays. If you get any results from this, I think you should take an x-ray to see where the actual growth happened since you told us your bones are fused?

smalldude:
Ya, my spine is fused. I'm hoping my legs aren't. I haven't had an MRI in like 1 year. At that time, my growth plates for the legs and hip were still open. Doctor said it's usually like 2 years time of growing in the legs and arms once you get fused in the hip called the illac crest.

I noticed my legs were like more straighter like the center of the shinbone the part that if u get kicked at it really hurts as i said when sky opened his ankle weight routine.

Bottom line is, at least i'm trying and i'm trying the fastest way to maximize my growth before it's all over in western medical terms. Too bad these kind of growing techniques weren't discussed when i was like 15 or so.
Besides, it not like i'm wasting it with just myself. I'm thinking there's alot of people in here that will actually try out this alfalfa product because it's so damn cheap. Heck it has most vitamins of Centrum multivitamins.

FInally, you're 19 i think. My only advice is to do a bone x-ray on the hand.
Since limbs are the last to grow it's the most accurate. I just think that your spine is fused.
NOTE:You don't have to believe all the info i'm telling you people if you want. Just ASK any DAMN Doctor they won't even tell you how they know your plates are fused and when mostly is the average age that spine fuses, limbs fuses, etc. Most Doctors are selfish people, unless you force them they keep their knowledge to themselves. It's just the way mankind is. Everyone wants to be better than each others. That is why we have not seen anyone in this forum or Joey's forum say. "I bought Tamoxifen at my local pharmacist."
And that is why USA might even ban HGH products and HGH injections cause too many were buying them online supplied by USA dealers. Because people are jealous that our kids will be 8' tall.

Dan:
Same symptoms as i told u before. my 6th day of 15g/day.

No. i do not have access to endocrinologist.
I do have access to orthapedics due to scoliosis.
An orthapedist in my opinion has more value to height gain than endocrinologist.

They can interpret x-rays.
Interpret MRIS
Measure x-rays angles properly.
Does the Limb Lengthening Surgery
Has knowledge in neurological diseases such as cystic fibrosis so that they know how to operate on the patient and what dangers.
In my hospital, the orthapedics and endocrinologists supply growth hormone injections to small statured people.

Disadvantages of orthapedists.
Lack of Knowledge in how hormones work
Lack of knowledge in drug names

Hey guys, I've never posted here, so I just wanted to say hi to everyone.
I have a question.

Where are you all buying the Alfalfa from? I looked at Holland & Barrett but its way too expensive for me because of the shipping to US. Could everyone list the site where they bought their Alfalfa from? Thanks a bunch.

http://www.herbalfields.com/alfalfa.html

That's definitely a trustworthy site as they have a %100 money back gaurantee and has some very good information on certain products they sell.

I just wanted to post a link to a thread in Joey's forum of a posting from me on how I think Kaneka has increased his height.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=177048&messageid=1099635314

Scroll down and look for my name Chris and read what I have to say. I really think it's possible to grow up to two inches like Kaneka did and possibly a little bit more for those who have fused plates and if your plates aren't fused then you can definitely grow in height a lot if your diet is healthy, sleeping patterns are on track, etc. along with Alfalfa pills.

Anyway I just wanted to post this for hope in growth in a very reasonable view.

Hey Chris, looks like it's been fathomed out then! The widening of the bones theory. There is obviously a limit to how much we can grow from the widening before we start looking a bit freaky, but how much do you reckon, 2 or 3 inches max? That would be amazing if you consider on top of that stretching the legs by 1 or 2 inches from kicks and raised seat biking method, plus stretching of the spine by an inch or so! We could be looking at an increase potential of 6 inches :D

I definitely agree with what you're saying about 2-3 inches being the max before we start looking like we have acromegaly. My dad was watching a biography about Andre the Giant and I went to watch it as well and looking at his face and body you can definitely see that he looks like he has acromegaly with very thick bones and he grew up to be 7'4" being 7'0" at 18 so maybe he didn't look as freaky till he grew up 4 more inches in which he started to grow a larger eyebrow ridge. I don't know though, I'll have to find some pics of when he was 18 as I didn't get to watch the whole biography which probably showed a few pics of him aged 18.

Anyway, your assessment of 2-3 inches sounds the most realistic to me as well. I'm thinking we should do certain exercises that would most reach the potential 2-3 inches but what are they exactly? Can we reach 2-3 inches just by taking a high dosage of Alfalfa tablets? I'm not certain of that of course but right now I'm going to the gym at least 4 times a week to cycle, run on treadmills, and punch a speed bag along with occassional swimming which by the way would be interesting to notice that if I start getting widening of the bones and see the difference it has on my body's balance in the water. I really hope we're right about this theory.

Also about what you say about kicking and cycling to reach 1-2 inches; I'm not sure about that but my opinion is that doing so may increase the cartiledges in the knees and above the thigh bones. Now the back; I think it's possible for more than one inch in the back of about 2 inches max but I'm also thinking that once our spinal column bones widen and thicken that would mean our spinal cartiledges would have to grow in width and a little height as well which would give us the possibility of stretching up to 2 inches since we'll have even bigger spines. I don't want anoyone to think that I'm being overly opptimistic, I believe I'm not so I definitely agree with you Joe that we actually may have a 6 inch potential, pray that it can happen! Personally, I'd be extremely happy if I got 4 inches out of this. Joe, are you currently taking Alfalfa and if so, what is your current daily dosage? Mine is 3 x 550 mg per meal totalling 4950 mg which I plan to up the dosage by 1 tablet a meal every week until I start feeling the growing sensations Kaneka felt in his face at which point I'll keep the dosage at that level.

heh, sorry to type so much, I'm just real excited that we may be right!

Well at the moment i'm taking 5 500mg tablets 3 times a day (7500mg per day). No significant side effects yet, unless you consider maybe stronger B.O. a side effect..some ppl have also mentioned this. But like you i will probably increase the dosage by 1 more tablet per meal next week, so i'll be taking 6. May stick with that for a while, say 3 weeks, until any symptoms arise like the pain in the head that Kaneka got. Can't guarantee that i will, but i think Kaneka said he started feeling this 6 weeks into it, while his dosage was 18 a day (sorry if that's incorrect Kaneka). But then we have to take into account we are considerably younger than Kaneka, and there is also the issue of his bone tissue...perhaps he has softer bones than we do? Hopefully this isn't the case, and we all have 2 inches + potential height increase .

This is my second week taking Alfafal... anyways, the Alfalfa makes me very hot at first when I took it, but after a while it was ok... anyways I am taking 9 tablets person maximum... so far not alot happen yet.. anyways I'll keep you post if anything comes up.

Wah hot?
The endocrine system is not in charge of temperature.
HGH works upon the endocrine system not the nervous system.

I don't think HGH is a big factor to the nervous system so i don't know WTF you mean by hot. A sudden change in temperature means problems with the ganglions T2-T4 of the Nervous System. I learned it in Biology class. Exaples would be diabetes and high blood pressure.

Hot as in temperture... anyways I can feel my heartbeat was faster then before... I am taking 9 tablets per day right now.

How old are you, and does your family have a history of auto-immune diseases?(lupus, thyroid problems) Measure your heart rate and if it's over a 100, go see a doc, I would still be worried if it was around 90-100 a minute. If there's any other symptoms let us know.

Indeed, go see a doctor.

Could be a side effect just like smalldude said and nothing to do with HGH secretion but just a side effect due to overdose.

My heartbeat returned to normal within an hour, but during the 'hot' times, my heartbeat went quite fast.

Oh yes, and I am 19 years old right now... my family doesn't have any heart problems or anything... so far I haven't grow yet... maybe is b/c I am only taking 9 tablets per day? I still have a bottle of Glcosaime Sulfate sitting on my table... I am gonna switch to that if Alfafal doesn't work out. Give me sum advice if u know anything ppl.

Hey bubbletea, where did u get the x-ray done for your hand..was it expensive? anyways u said some bones in your body didn't fuse yet.. why is that? and r u a male or female..

I am a Male who is 17, 18 in december.
I suffer from Scoliosis, a spinal curvature of 44+ degrees which makes my posture and spine lose height as the day goes on.
My height is 5'3-5'6 depending on the time of day, how well i slept, smoking, etc.

I NEVER EVER said i had an x-ray of the hands to determine my bone age and how the cartilage growth of my hands(arms and legs are the are the last to grow).

I live in Canada. My parents work and the government deduct a monthly fee which provides medical coverage to our family. I believe it's like $100-200 Canadian dollars a month not too sure. It covers all surgery except for cosmetic surgery. Doctor visits, hospital healthcare, MRI, CT Scan, X-rays, blood tests, etc if you can find a valid reason for it.
Most medicine are not covered but are given a discount if you pay extras for your medical coverage. My family pays the extras and for example, i get this smokers flu where mucus produces in my throat, lungs, nose, mouth, etc.
I need a penicillin antibiotic called amoxcillin. I know a classmate who also got this problem and his like mine is due to smoking. He had to pay like $70 where as i had to pay like $25 because our family paid extra medical coverage.

Ok, back to the X-ray. Since, i have scoliosis it is considered a serious problem.
I am entitled to Ultrasound, ear hearing tests, MRI, X-ray of Anterior-Posterior Spine from neck to hip.

My spine specialist/surgeon told me that i had limited growth in the spine back in Dec 2003 due to a sign on the x-ray that determines my hips were almost totally fused. The hips are the last to grow in the spine. This sign is called Risser Sign/Risser Grade. My Risser sign was 4 which means almost total growth plate fusion of the entire spine.
In June 2004, i was declared Risser Sign 5, meaning no future growth in the spine. Doctor said the only part you will grow now are the legs. He said it's usually 2 years after the spine is fused that is when most complete their total body growth.
The average person growth plate spinal fusion is 16-17
The average person growth plate total body fusion is 18-19



An X-ray of the hands is different from the Risser Sign.
The hands and legs are the last to grow.
So, if your x-ray of the hands show cartilage that looks like it won't lengthen or in the stage where it is finished growing. Then you are most likely done growing in western medical science.

X-ray of the hands, orthapedic specialist/radiologist/endocrinologist checks your hand and compares it to the Greulich and Pyle atlas which contains thousands of x-ray photo hands from different races, age, sex, etc.

Another way is by checking to see what stages the cartilage looks like. Does it look like your joints are spreadout in the x-ray? Is the cartilage look thin, thick, etc.

In all respects, an x-ray of the Spine/hip is way more reliable then an x-ray of the hands if you are a male. It is like 99.9% that once the hips fuses then your spine has already fused.

I said, it's for MALES ONLY! not GIRLS because spinal fusion of girls depend on the 2 year after getting regular periods and x-ray of hands and in most cases not the Hip X-ray.

I have yet to get an x-ray of my hand and probably would not go to a private clinic. Since, the Children's Hospital which i go to for my Scoliosis appointments ain't going to give unneccesary x-rays because of radiation and the main reason is wasting tax dollars of Canadian money into healthcare.

Also, an x-ray to a private radiology clinic would just mean recieving an x-ray and just leave. The radiologist ain't going to tell you how the bones are, etc unless you pay for their advice as well.

But hey, like i said i'd recommend people to just take an x-ray of their hips instead of their hands.

It's more accurate, self-explanatory. I do not know the cost between a hip x-ray and a hand x-ray. Well, if it's cheap, i would recommend having the x-ray of hip to include from neck to hip since that way you can see if your vertebrates have problems like degeneration, etc. Since, all it is is that the magnification of the x-ray is smaller.

So yea, right now i'm risking that my legs are not fused yet by taking 10g a day of alfalfa and it seems the legs and ankles weaken alot and sometimes bone aches/pain.

At least, i have high hopes that since my spine just fused about 5 months ago. I still can rely on my legs and the fact that for my scoliosis condition if i do surgery i'll be like 1-2 inches taller in the spine.

There's tons of people in here like 16-21 in their late moments of growth who don't even have a recent x-ray and doing their excercises and supplement routines. So, i don't feel that stressed out since tons of people in here are not even aware when their spine fused and if their limbs are fused too. Really, you can't tell if your growth plate fused without an x-ray/mri/ct scan.

Thx bubble... the x-ray sounds kindda expensive... but anyways does Alfafal work on legs too? are there any other physical signs that tell you when your bones are completely fuse?

Hey anyone got any results yet from Alfafal?

no way would of snyone gotten results, you need at least 5 months wid high dosages to see results. good luck.

Hey Bubble do you take Glucosamine Sulfate too? Do you know if it does any thing or not?

i took it for 1 month way before Sky's introduced his routine for back pain from my scoliosis.
It was effective in the sense that it temporarily healed my backpain.
But growing taller i didn't see an inch.

Back then, i chewed on the capsules and would literally just swallow the plastic capsule as well. Tasted awful sea salt which were bitter.

If you're going to try glucosamine try glucosamine hcl+sulphate in liquid form perhaps it works faster and more faster in getting longer temporary back pains healed

Hey bubble how many tablets/volume would you recommand for Glucosaime Sulfate? Cos I am taking it right now.

Uhhh glucosamine sulphate in tablet form i don't think is natural.
I think the contents inside the capsule are natural.
If you're going to buy liquid form. There's 2 kind of glucosamine. Liquid glucosamine hcl(hydrochloric acid) & glucosamine hcl+so4(sulphate) combined mixture. Not sure which one is more better for height increase.
Some glucosamine brand got additional bone helpers like MSM, chrondrotin, collagen, gelatin, etc which helps out joint pain and bones in general.

The tablets/capsules are cheaper. But it's going to take longer to see results if there's any. I bought my glucosamine sulphate capsules at Shoppers Drug Mart in Canada 100 capsules for $11.00.
It was 3 times a day 1 capsule each dose.
I saw a 480ml symtec(respectful brand) glucosamine hcl+collagen+msm+chrondrotin for $20.00 Canadian.
Expensive so i didn't buy.

Remember one thing though. Our body creates chrondrotin, collagen, chrondrotin, msm. It just once you finish puberty it slows down the process.
So, don't know if you're going to gain 2-3 inches from glucosamine other success stories say. In the medical world, there's not enough evidence to know if glucosamine supplements will do what to the human body besides curing joint pain which it is named for.

I brought the capsule for 16.99 it has 360 capsule... They were on sale so that was good... Anyways, I am take 6 capsule per day right now, don't know if that is okay but anyways, inside the capsule are the powder. I guess you can make it an aqueous solution... Anyhow, I'll give u any info if I grow..

hope u can answer them:

1. did it disshape ur face?? or any other body part?? or any other abnormality it lead to??
2. when u stopped its use, ur body came back to normal again but with increased height?
3. did u take any blood test so c if ur HGH levels were actually high?

thanking you!!!

Well its been a week and a half talking alfalfa and the first couple of days i got like tingling in the face feel like i was blushing and i got gentle pain in the knees and toe right after sleeping. But after those 3 days of first taking alfalfa i didnt feel nothing. I also gain just a tad of weight by taking them. Well these are my results after one week but i still have a long time to go cause it took kaneka at least 6 months so ya.

This is my 26th day of taking 15 pills 650mg=9.75g a day.
Same symptoms as day 1. So far only 1 day where i felt pain in my head/face.

15 PILLS?! I only took 9 tablets per day went I was on Alfalfa... But I felt real uncomfortable after I took it, so I have to stop it, my symptoms included : high body temperture, change of heart rate, pain in the face etc.
Anyways, right now I am taking Glcosamine sulfate, so far I don't have any sympotoms yet even tho I am taking 6 tablets per day (even tho it saids I should take 3 per day). Anyways hopfully it'll work on my height.

If you chew on the capsules then you'll notice pain relief temporarily.
But it tastes very salty and horrible. You might even want to put it in your soup or something for it to dissolve. Not sure if that ruins the absorption. Back then i would either drink coke with it or put it in my soup and act it as salt.

You've got weirder symptoms indeed. It maybe even an allergic reaction who knows?

yadvin -

1) Well, if you can find the pic on Joeys's forum, youll see I aint disfigured! Sorry , theres been so much written on there, I cant recall where it is precisely. Youll have to dig a bit Symptoms I got at times were notable tiredness, aches in my wrists, possibly extra sweating (I say 'possibly', since it was through the hot summer here), and of course the pains and other sensations in my head and face Ive mentioned many times.


http://www.network54.com/Forum/177048

2) Well, I havent stopped, just reduced my intake to 9 a day. Now the symptoms have eased off, but I still get some pains which are milder thn before.

3) No blood test, as the doctors here in the UK tend to get touchy if you dont have a good sounding reason!

Hey Kenaka! u're back! where have u been?! Any good news 4 us?

Hi Kaneka

Have u grown since u posted on this forum?

Hi guys! I am currently taking alfalfa and I bought it from cvs 650mg formula. I have started taking 3 tablets and in one week 6 but should I increase my dosage weekly. Also, is it ok to eat alfalfa with food because I don't.

I think when eating alfalfa with food there is a stomach acid that builds up in body.

And is it ok to lift heavy boxes because I do at my workplace.

Thanks Kaneka for this forum and introducing me to alfalfa but please give me answers to my queries.

Rob/Neeraj :

Cheers for the greeting, but Ive posted enough now for peeps to know its Kaneka

Ive been very busy (as per usual) with lots of non-HI related things that need dealing with.

Good news? YES! I found a new place to live that suits me perfectly and has a very cheap rent! Oh, you mean regarding growth? Yea, a few mm and rising


raja gupta :

Increase your dose by all means, but keep it gradual, and observe your reactions very closely for any unwanted symptoms (especially if youre still a teen).

My brand says eat with food so I do that.

Lifting heavy boxes shouldnt have much bearing on your height gain, though some of the GH produced may be diverted to your muscles. But hey, you gotta work, right?

Hi Kaneka,

I have been using Alfalfa for last 3 week, from the 1st week I feel some sensation in my legs specially near the knee cap and shin bone. Does the pain mean that i m growing there or something else, and also i do not feel any pain in my spine.

Did u notice the pain the same spot as i m feeling and did urs pants fits well in length( I mean there was growth in legs or it was in torso only).

hope something is good instore for us in these pain sensations.

ciya
Neeraj

I increased my dosage of alfalfa to 12 tablets and I take it all in one shot with a meal. I did feel a bad headache one day and it hurt my head for a while; I hope that is a sympton of height growth. Is it ok to take 12 tab all toghether on one shot or some one time and some the other because I also take glucosamine 2 tab and multivitamins, protein shake. I do think alot at times and think that hinders growth but what can I do I am 21 and got alot to do but I am working hard to gain height. Please suggest some other things to help me grow height because I also listen to a growthburst cd for 1 hour a day or 5days a weejs,

i meant 5 days a week.

Neeraj - the leg pains may be significant. How much have you been taking and for how long? Also, have you recently started a new exercse regime that may be giving you more aches and pains than usual?

With me some growth has definitely occurred in the spine - I mentioned previiously how I'd noticed I was closer to the roof of a vehicle I'd been using. Not so sure about the legs tho'.

Raja gupta - I think taking your tabs all in one go isnt a great idea. Taking them evenly spread out during the day is best. I mean you wouldnt eat all your food for the day in one go would you?!

As for other things - well for more ideas just browse this forum and this one here :

http://www.network54.com/Forum/177048

The hypnosis thing sounds slightly far-fetched to me, but hey I'm open minded and am interested to hear what people get out of this technique.

I'd say the most useful things though are getting plenty of natural GH through food, supps and exercise. Stretching regimes seem to have worked for a lot of guys too.

Good luck to both of you

Thanks for response. Please reply sooneer next time because I tend to do mistakes in taking alfalfa like I took all in one shot. How many is safe to take a day because I do not want any medical problems. I have gotten skinner , I hope not because of alfalfa

Hi Kaneka,

Well I started with Alfalfa on 18 Nov, with 9 tablets per day, then i gradually increased to 24 per day.
I am doing stretching exercise as well. As far as my leg are concerned I did not do any special kind of exercise for them , I only do running for 20 min per day.

I see some stretch mark near my knee cap. Yaa, one more thing my blood group is B+.

-Neeraj

any one has any update on alfalfa..any one has grown or anyone has suffer any side effect? please report..thanks

I believe this guy quite a bit actually. He actually aint the only person hwo has grown from alfalfa! This one guy in joey's forum said that he was able to make his growth faster by taking alfalfa and having a good diet and exercise. Although he tells us that his growth plates arent closed yet but almost nearly closed.

I also have this theory that most people's growth plates do not close completely but more close to completely. What I mean is that we all have thin tissue of cartiledge on the ends of our bones where we have joints. Since cartiledge is often something that can grow thicker on it's own, i'm guessing that HGH can possibly help your thin tissues of cartiledge expand.

Hi i've been taking Alfalfa and sea kelp for just over a month now starting out a 1 pill per meal then upping the dose to 3 per meal and so on i'm now on 18 per day with 3 kelpper meal, No real signs of growth in height yet but i do feel abit taller, i been getting a few odd pains(in the first two weeks)here and there but nothing major!

Btw Does anyone know how i can reach Kaneka? does he still post here?

do any of you take like 10 pills at once or do you take 5 at lunch then 5 at dinner time?

here is the side effects of alfalfa

(overproduction of growth hormone)
********one may develop acromegaly**********

Acromegaly is a hormonal disorder that results when the pituitary gland produces excess growth hormone (GH). It most commonly affects middle-aged adults and can result in serious illness and premature death. Once recognized, acromegaly is treatable in most patients, but because of its slow and often insidious onset, it frequently is not diagnosed correctly.

The name acromegaly comes from the Greek words for "extremities" and "enlargement" and reflects one of its most common symptoms, the abnormal growth of the hands and feet. Soft tissue swelling of the hands and feet is often an early feature, with patients noticing a change in ring or shoe size. Gradually, bony changes alter the patient's facial features: the brow and lower jaw protrude, the nasal bone enlarges, and spacing of the teeth increases.

Overgrowth of bone and cartilage often leads to arthritis. When tissue thickens, it may trap nerves, causing carpal tunnel syndrome, characterized by numbness and weakness of the hands. Other symptoms of acromegaly include thick, coarse, oily skin; skin tags; enlarged lips, nose and tongue; deepening of the voice due to enlarged sinuses and vocal cords; snoring due to upper airway obstruction; excessive sweating and skin odor; fatigue and weakness; headaches; impaired vision; abnormalities of the menstrual cycle and sometimes breast discharge in women; and impotence in men. There may be enlargement of body organs, including the liver, spleen, kidneys and heart.

The most serious health consequences of acromegaly are diabetes mellitus, hypertension, and increased risk of cardiovascular disease. Patients with acromegaly are also at increased risk for polyps of the colon that can develop into cancer.

When GH-producing tumors occur in childhood, the disease that results is called gigantism rather than acromegaly. Fusion of the growth plates of the long bones occurs after puberty so that development of excessive GH production in adults does not result in increased height. Prolonged exposure to excess GH before fusion of the growth plates causes increased growth of the long bones and increased height.

Good luck. I suggest if you actually start growing with this pill or produce a serious side effect then immediately tone it down or stop completely

i just got myself a bottle of alfalfa from gnc.. its a big bottle with 480 tables and it says each tablet contains 500mg alfalfa extract.. so well is this almost the same as the one u guys are eating? cause i saw another bottle which is much more expensive while each tablet contains 15000mg alfalfa.. well i guess i'll just give it a try despite the risk of lupus.. common guys, just don't be afraid to give anything a try ; while also not overdo it :p

....if you are still growing and young AND TAKING MORE THAN
THE RECOMMENDED DOSAGE ....potentially of course you are taking the risk ....

...if you are older say 30 + ...I would still take the recommended dosage ...for it needs to thru your system ....

...another alternative is listening to sounds that's that
activate your HGH that is also available ....just listen
relax and let the pituitary gland produce the hgh .


RECOMMENDED DOSAGE ARE FOR A REASON .....DONT LET DESPERATION
TAKE OVER LOGIC .

so how much is everyone taking daily now?

i'm only taking 2-3 per meal.. that makes up to 6-9 a day.... what was written on the bottle is : "take around 1-4 tablets during meals according to your own preference" guess i haven't gone pass the dosage limit yet =). btw i'm 19.. and as u all know my bones would be at the brink of fusing anytime now.. guess i'll make full use of the few years or months left =) good luck to all of u and take care =)

Can Alfalfa work for people who have short parents?

Any updates? Any growth?

I just bought some Alfalfa today from GNC. I'm going to take 3 tables per meal, 3 meals a day, so that's 9 tablets. I'll let you guys know in a couple of months if there will be any growth.

Dude, where have you been these last few months lol?

Alfalfa has been disregarded as a height increasing supplement by everybody who has tested it long before.

damn that is cool your story gives us hope.
or at least me. im gona look some up right now & probably buy some.
might wait till next month though kinda low on cash

I bought some I hope i grow

http://www.iherb.com/alfalfajucon1.html


hum I got my alfalfa it smells like a plant lol.
it kind of gives me energy like ginseng.
it has 1.6 grams of protein
1020 iu vitamin a
& 852 mcg of vitamin k good for bone growth or 1065% daily value
its actually juice concentrate meaning it doesnt have as much fiber
but it has more protein. which might be bad i dont know
o the grams & stuff r per 3 capsuls
& most important part 3 grams of alfalfa

Good luck naphere!
Keep us updated

I decided to buy more alfalfa. for some reason is seems a bit different.
its more like taking creatine or one of those sobe power drinks.
this one has x10 concentrate they say with
840 alfalfa leaf concentrate
& 210 mg alfalfa leaf
per 2 capsuls 100 total I got this cheap for $7.19

Look at how many vitamins Alfalfa contains that promotes growth. I know there is a lot to read but there are other things also that can promote growth. I got this info from http://www.herbalremediesinfo.com/minerals.html

~VITAMINS~
VITAMIN A Enhances immunity, prevents eye problems and skin disorders. Important in bone and teeth formation. Protects against colds and infection. Slows aging process. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, borage leaves, burdock root, cayenne, chickweed, eyebright, fennel seed, hops, horsetail, kelp, lemongrass, mullein, nettle, oat straw, paprika, parsley, peppermint, plantain, raspberry leaves, red clover, rose hips, sage, uva ursi, violet leaves, watercress, yellow dock.

VITAMIN B1 (Thiamine) Promotes growth, improves mental attitude, aids digestion, helps strengthen nervous system and prevent stress. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, bladder wrack, burdock root, catnip, cayenne, chamomile, chickweed, eyebright, fennel seed, fenugreek, hops, nettle, oat straw, parsley, peppermint, raspberry leaves, red clover, rose hips, sage, yarrow, and yellow dock.

VITAMIN B2 (Riboflavin) Needed for red blood cell formation, aids growth and reproduction, promotes hair, skin and nail growth. Important in the prevention and treatment of cataracts. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, bladder wrack, burdock root, catnip, cayenne, chamomile, chickweed, eyebright, fennel seed, fenugreek, ginseng, hops, horsetail, mullein, nettle, oat straw, parsley, peppermint, raspberry leaves, red clover, rose hips, sage, yellow dock.

VITAMIN B3(Niacin) Essential for proper circulation and healthy skin. Increases energy, aids digestion, helps prevent migranes. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, burdock root, catnip, cayenne, chamomile, chickweed, eyebright, fennel seed, hops, licorice, mullein, nettle, oat straw, parsley, peppermint, raspberry leaf, red clover, rose hips, slippery elm, yellow dock.

VITAMIN B5 (Panothenic Acid) Enhances stamina, prevents anemia, helps wounds heal, fights infection, strengthens immune system. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, burdock root, nettle, yellow dock.

VITAMIN B6 (Pyridoxine) Needed to produce hydrochloric acid. Aids in absorption of fats, and protein. Mildly diuretic, helps prevent kidney stones. Helpful in treating allergies, arthritis, and asthma. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, catnip, oat straw.

VITAMIN B12 (cyanocobalamin) Helps prevent anemia. Protects nervous system, improves concentration, aids digestion. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, bladder wrack, hops.

VITAMIN C (ascorbic acid) Helps calcium and iron formation. Enhances immunity. Helps prevent cancer. Aids in production of anti-stress hormones. Antioxidant required for proper tissue growth and repair, and adrenal gland function. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, burdock root, cayenne, chickweed, eyebright, fennel seed, fenugreek, hops, horsetail, kelp, peppermint, mullein, nettle, oat straw, paprika, parsley, pine needle, plantain, raspberry leaf, red clover, rose hips, skullcap, violet leaves, yarrow, yellow dock.

VITAMIN D Essential for calcium and phosphorous utilization. Prevents rickets. Needed for normal growth of bones and teeth. Helps regulate heartbeat. Prevents cancer and enhances immunity. Aids thyroid function and blood clotting. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, horsetail, nettle, parsley.

VITAMIN E Antioxidant which helps prevent cancer and heart disease. Prevents cell damage. Reduces blood pressure and promotes healthy skin and hair. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, bladder wrack, dandelion, dong quai, flaxseed, nettle, oat straw, raspberry leaf, rose hips.

VITAMIN K Promotes healthy liver function. Helps bone formation and repair. Increases longevity. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, green tea, kelp, nettle, oat straw, shepherds purse.











~MINERALS~




CALCIUM This mineral builds and protects bones and teeth. Helps maintain regular heartbeat. Prevents muscle cramping. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, burdock root, cayenne, chamomile, chickweed, chicory, dandelion, eyebright, fennel seed, fenugreek, flaxseed, hops, horsetail, kelp, lemongrass, mullein, nettle, oat straw, paprika, parsley, peppermint, plantain, raspberry leaf, red clover, rose hips, shepherd's purse, violet leaves, yarrow, yellow dock.

CHROMIUM This mineral is vital in the synthesis of glucose and the metabolism of cholesterol, fats and proteins. Maintains blood pressure and blood sugar levels. HERBAL SOURCES: Catnip, horsetail, licorice, nettle, oat straw, red clover, sarsaparilla, wild yam, yarrow.

COPPER This mineral converts iron to hemoglobin. Protects against anemia. Needed for healthy bones and joints. HERBAL SOURCES: Sheep sorrel.

GERMANIUM This mineral helps fight pain, detoxify the body, and keep immune system functioning properly. HERBAL SOURCES: Aloe vera, comfrey, ginseng, suma.

IODINE This mineral is needed in trace amounts for a healthy thyroid gland , and to help metabolize excess fat. HERBAL SOURCES: alendula,tarragon leaves, turkey rhubarb.

IRON This mineral is essential for metabolism, and the production of hemoglobin. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, burdock root, catnip, cayenne, chamomile, chickweed, chicory, dandelion, dong quai, eyebright, fennel seed, fenugreek, horsetail, kelp, lemongrass, licorice, milk thistle seed, mullein, nettle, oatstraw, paprika, parsley, peppermint, plantain, raspberry leaf, rose hips, sarsaparilla, shepherd's purse, uva ursi, yellow dock.

MAGNESIUM This mineral prevents calcification of soft tissue. Helps reduce and dissolve calcium phosphate kidney stones. Helps prevent birth defects. Improves cardiovascular system. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, bladder wrack, catnip, cayenne, chamomile, chickweed, dandelion, eyebright, fennel, fenugreek, hops, horsetail, lemongrass, licorice, mullein, nettle, oat straw, paprika, parsley, peppermint, raspberry leaf, red clover, sage, shepherd's purse, yarrow, yellow dock.

MANGANESE Minute quantities of this mineral are needed for healthy nerves, blood sugar regulation, normal bone growth, and thyroid hormone production. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, burdock root, catnip, chamomile, chickweed, dandelion, eyebright, fennel seed, fenugreek, ginseng, hops, horsetail, lemongrass, mullein, parsley, peppermint, raspberry leaf, red clover, rose hip, wild yam, yarrow, yellow dock.

MOLYBDENUM Small amounts of this mineral are required for nitrogen metabolism. Supports bone growth, and strengthens teeth. HERBAL SOURCES: Red clover blossoms.

PHOSPHOROUS This mineral is needed for teeth and bone formation, nerve impulse transfer, normal heart rhythm, and kidney function. HERBAL SOURCES: Burdock root, turkey rhubarb, slippery elm bark.

POTASSIUM This mineral regulates water balance, and muscle function. Important for health nervous system and regular heart rhythm. HERBAL SOURCES: Catnip, hops, horsetail, nettle, plantain, red clover, sage, skullcap.

SELENIUM This mineral provides an important trace element for prostrate gland in males. Protects immune system and helps regulate thyroid hormones. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, burdock root, catnip, cayenne, chamomile, chickweed, fennel seed, ginseng, garlic, hawthorn berry, hops, horsetail, lemongrass, milk thistle nettle, oat straw, parsley, peppermint, raspberry leaf, rose hips, sarsaparilla, uva ursi, yarrow, yellow dock.

SULFUR This mineral helps skin and hair. Fights bacterial infection. Aids liver function. Disinfects blood. Protects against toxic substances. HERBAL SOURCES: Horsetail.

VANADIUM This mineral is needed for cellular metabolism and formation of bones and teeth. Improves insulin utilization. HERBAL SOURCES: Dill.

ZINC This mineral promotes growth and mental alertness. Accelerates healing. Regulates oil glands. Promotes healthy immune system, and healing of wounds. HERBAL SOURCES: Alfalfa, burdock root, cayenne, chamomile, chickweed, dandelion, eyebright, fennel seed, hops, milk thistle, mullein, nettle, parsley, rose hips, sage, sarsaparilla, skullcap, wild yam.

People who been using this for a while, tell us if this is working?

I think Alfalfa should work. Look at the amount of vitamins it contains that promote growth. However I have been using it now for almost a month and have seen no growth from it. I feel a lot healthier though. I am going to continue taking it and hopefully I will soon see some results.

Hi guys is there any resulta from taking this pill ? I've just bought it today ... but after reading this forum i get a bit afraid that this thing might increase my head? hands or legs, cause i already have big enormous head with 176 cm of height ...

I am 18 years old, do u think i should'nt take it ? i am afraid !

I really don't think you should worry about it. All Afalfa could to you is improve your health and possibly stimulate you growth. You whole body should grow proportional to your height. Alfalfa should not be able to make your head any bigger than your body will allow it to. Again, Alfalfa can only help you in your growth, but you brain decides how big everything is. That's just my opinion! Good luck!

thanks but can i somehow make Alfalfa influence ONLY my height not touching anything else ? I know it sounds unlogical but i don't want to get the same proportions i have now. If I am stretching my spine column with ecxercieses and swimming i hope that only my torso
will grow ! Am i right ? I mean the only parts of the body which are being penetrated (or how it calls )

I lost a little weight when taking it for a week to 10 days at a full dose of like 15-21 a day.
im not sure its its the alfalfa but I believe so, im also taking msm which could bethe cause of weight loss.
I havent gotten any height except maybe a mm or 2 from stretching.

I bought Alfafa from Walmart and have been using it for more than two months now, I have never dare to check my height, I'm too scare of finding out it doesn;t work, but somehow my friends told me I look a little taller. I took 5 tablets each time, and for three times a day. I also take Chriotiodon, MSM, and Glucosamine (two tablets for 2 times a day), and Multi Vitamins and Minerals (one tablet, 2 times a day) and Calcium(one tablet for 2 times a day). I do hope it works. I planning to take all of this for one full year to see if it works or not. Wish me luck, and I do wish everyone out here looking for growth, good luck to all of you. Ohh, there's a lot of scams out there, I've been scammed for many times until I did my homework and heard about this Alfafa thing. G'Night everyone.

kilik

I'm a 21 years old male from Turkey. 166 cm. tall.

After many months without any development, I finally started to take daily Heightmax tablets + Growth Booster plus 1 capsule of MFIII each morning.

I hope I see some results in the following few months.

I think Kaneka seems really honest about Alfalfa and that it might work.

However, if you're still out there , I've got a question for you :

You said you grow two inches by gradually maximising your daily intake to 20 tablets per day, which exceeded the dosage instructions and for many of us according to what you said about your head and hands has had an effect of acromegaly on you, which none of us would like to experience.

Now, do you think a similar growth is possible with just taking thge max. recommended dosage 9 per/day or anyone else has experienced it?

Thanks in advance and good luck to everybody ))

And for the anonymous friend who wrote just before me.

First of all congratulations as you've definitely grown some -if your friends say so- because you know, it's always much easier for "outsiders" to "notice" the differences that take place inside : a person, a company.. That's why many companies outsoýurce services such as software implementations, etcx.. My friends have first told me that I had some whites on myhair which at first I opposed severely but in fact it was true.

Anyhow, for all of us to have a more precise and more confident opinion about the effects of Alfalfa, and especially cosidering that you are taking just above the recommended dosage, could you please your height now and compare it to your previous height before taking Alfalfa??

It will be VERY VERY APPRECIATED if you did this little favour for us.

Keep up the good work. )

Kaneka where are u dude ? tell us about ur height progress ... hope ur still alive ...,
cause I am taking alfalfa too lol ))))

To the person who asked me to measure myself. It seems like I have grown around 1cm or so, not so much that it's noticable. BUt when I compare myslef to my sister, who I compare to most of the time, becuase I have very similar height as she does. But somehow, now when I measure against her, i seem a little taller than her. I can't measure myslef using a ruler, it's not accurate, so I use my older sister as a guide. Hope this helps. Alfafa seems to work though, it's cheap and have lots of nutrition.
Kilik

Well congratulations then.

I hope you add many other cms. to that "opening one" in the upcoming months.
I'm going to start to take Solgar's Alfalfa pills in the next days.

You know there's a famous sentence : "Beginning is getting to half and getting to half is completing."

It may seem very cliché for many but for persistent people having faith in their effort it's much much correct and real.

Keep up the good work and please keep us informed on your developments. )

Anyone who have been using alfalfa with definite results? Like when you start , how long, how much ang any gain at all??

No replies, that measn it's just another bullshit!! agree!!??

Kaneka had left the forum because Dennis(The Endo dude) pretty much stated that Alfalfa doesn't work and absoloutely no other person had achieved any positive results. So yeah.....He pretty much got his ass kicked off the forum and hasn't returned since!





That's the TRUTH
GO FIGURE

not neccessary. I am taking Alfafa right now for almost two months, and people around me said that I look taller. I have never measure myself, but it's only two months, so I don't think I've grown much. As for Kaneka, maybe he is just tire of the forum, becuase we all know things like this stir up skepticism. I don't know the exact answer, and most of us dont, that includes Dennis, he may still be very knowledgable, but that doesn't mean he is always right. Anything can happen, it takes determination to find out the truth. So, to those of you who are taking Alfafa, do it for a year or so, and hopefully something good will emerge. Take care.
Kilik

Hey, everybody can not be lying about Alfalfa. You see, another
verification from another friend and he doesn't seem a scammer too, neither did Kaneka. He said he would be busy for some time and maybe he just left writing here for some time for his own purposes.

Besides, there wouldn't be scammers of Alfalfa as there isn't just one specific company who merchandises it; but there are many world-scale and well-known pharmaceutical marks such as Solgar who sell it everywhere so why anybody would scam about it, for whom's profit exactly???

Maybe Alfalfa is just one of the good natural products out there, really helping to grow taller unlike all the other scam products that many users say didn't work for them.

Isn't it just what we're trying to find out in these forums? (really helpful products) Or we're only spending our precious time for verifying that there's really not anything that can help us with our goal?

Peace out!

I agree that there are tons of scammers out there. Hey, do you guys think the G-Growth Booster from Sharp Labs legitimate? Their forum is so boring, and they seem to be convincing. BUt the pills cost too much, 49.00 for like three months, versus I bought my Alfafa at Walmart for only 3.75 for 300 tablets, it's cheap! Anyway, I do hope that there are more people coming in here to post about their results. I read the forum for so long and got lazy, didn't want to write until I registered and here i am, writing and replying, and checking out the fourm everyday. Good luck to everybody. Let's grow guys!!!!
Kilik

It's just another bullshit!..You say people say you looked "taller" after 2 months..We'll it only looks but actually it's not unless you have a definite measurement record. Stop fooling yourself thingking of something that did not happens, wake up!!

OK I think I might have grown a cm or 2 im almost 5'7" with my shoes off.
I took alot of other stuff besides alfalfa tho like glucosamine & calcium, & multi vitamins.
I took alot too like as much as I took of alfalfa like 10 a day of each.
I noticed 1 bone on my knee that looks bigger. I think alfalfa makes you have more energy
I can jump higher with it & do more pushups & im overweight like 225lbs without it I cant do squat.
I also feel like I have a growing pain in my finger.

What you think , may not be actual. If I were this person who really
feels somthing is really working for alfalfa, what I would do is measure
My height prior to taking this, then record for how long I have taken
this stuff after. Let's say I took it for a month, I was 5'6", after a month, I became 5'6 1/5"..that's real info!! People just keep saying stuff like abstract ending up just daydreaming after all!! Also I would post my age if I were you..

Why don't you begin by posting your age and your height?

Well I don't get one thing. there are peoplle like you who belittle other people trying to achieve something and persist in making everybody believe there's nothing that could work for height increase.

Honestly, what is your purpose in participating in this forum? You don't give people new ideas, you don't share anything, only keep saying "you're sitting ducks", "you're daydreamers", "you're all stupid"!!!

Who are you then? A small person very content of his small life? The cousin of Woody Allen maybe??

DON'T WRITE IN HERE IF YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN HEIGHT GAIN. AT LEAST DON'T DISCOURAGE THOSE WHO HAVE SOME.

By the way, I wouldn't give you materials, but just to open the way prior to your turn, I'm 21 years old and 166 cm. tall.

Come on with yours then.

i've bought some alfalfa and it says take 1-2 capsules 3 times a day with each meal. one capsule contains 400mg. this recommended dosage is alot less compared to other alfalfa products.

i've been using alfalfa for only 4 days, and i have increased the intake of alfalfa. i take 4 capsules with each meal, wich is twice as much as the recommended dosage written on the bottle.

4 capsules are still not enough compared to kanekas intake. it's already under the half of his dosage.

what do you think about this? should i increase the intake even more?

I take 5 tablets each time, so 15 tablets total. Two is just a recommended dose, you can take more, but I guess way too much is kinda risky, it's really depend on your own risk. Make sure you take other supplements too. Like Multi Vitamins and Minerals, Calcium, Glucosamine and Chrotion with MSM. Eat healthy, and absolutely no drugs and alcohol. It takes a very long time to notice growth, so be patient. I use it for more than two months and haven't seen any noticable gorwth, but have been said taller by my friends. Do it for a year or so. Okay, good luck to you.
kilik

i haven't noticed any symptoms yet, so i guess that i should increase the intake a bit more..

good luck to you all

I just bought it last friday, and take it 2 times daily one tablet(650 mg each). I plan to gradually increase its dose up to 9 tablets.
let's have a look if this will works!

THis should be pinned!

u guys r retarded, products dont work. how stupid can u get. theyr all scams just eat good food

I'm interested in finding the picture of Kaneka's head. Does anyone know where it is located?

Hey kaneka!i believe your story n i need some advice.I m gonna order ortopedi.What s your opinion about it?Can i take alfalfa the same time?
And plz tell me how to use alfalfa -how many tablets in the beggining etc-
and if u don t bother,where can i find the other supplements-sea kelp,l-agrinine-
THANX!

Hello kaneka,

i m new to this forum & i u hav boosted me.i m 21 & trying to put 6 inches more.Yah, i think it intrigued u?Well i wil be in need of your help.
So plz help me at times wen i hav some queries.

Till ten tak care
Cheeeeeers.

Well, I can see this topic is now dead, and I hadn't read it all because it is too long, but I have a theory about Kaneka's growth. Well, if long bones normally can't grow after epiphysis are closed, but head and hands bones can, couldn't all of his alfalfa growth have occured in the head? I mean, if his head had grown larger, he would be taller, wouldn't he?
Ty people and thank you Kaneka for this topic!

Ive been taking alfalfa 8 tablets 3 times a day. No results yet. I am going to wait more months. I'll get back to this.

Hi, I saw you are trying alfalfa and you were going to come back to tell if you have any results.
I see the last time you post a message was in June 2008.
So how long did you take alfalfa and how much and how old are you?
Are you still taking alfalfa tablets? And did you grow already?
Please let us know something.
Thank you very much and good luck!!!

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Ok I am 26 almost turning 27. I believe this might work on people whose bones have not fused. I know I seem to old for hope, but my family has a history of unusual growth spurts from age 25 to 30. My cousin for example, went to jail at 25, 5'11, came back at age 27, 6'4''. So if there is any hope my bones have not fused I am going to do all I can to squeeze out any possible inch. I got 1000 capsules with 550mg each for $11.99. I am going to take a pic stand next to something now, and in the next 6 months take another pic next to that same object and post them here. I'm around 5'6 and a half now. Wish me well!