i just noticed on the "you are the quarry" cd liner it says: please join peta, 501 front street, norfolk, va

YAY-Y-Y-Y!
the moz recognized our crappy city! i used to live across the street from there! i drive by there 3 days a week going to class! woohoo - i feel cool!

oh yea, and it's a great cause. i don't always agree w/ their tactics, but they have a terrible problem to deal with and i'm damn glad they have the balls (and $$) to deal with it.
our american culture is so frick'n violent... and our critters are almost always the first in line to experience our wrath... and violence rarely ends w/ animal abuse. pain & suffering is no less painful when it's another creature experiencing it.

good call, morrissey!

Ah, this calls for a lobster fest.....

(j/k)

lobster abuse!!!

moz supports peta very openly. so much so that on the who put the m in manchester dvd he included a video called “meet your meat”, which peta shooted last year. everybody should watch it...

meat is murder
you know.

meat is BURGER!

I think we should eat things that are of a lower intelligence. Cows, chickens, fish, lobsters, George Bush....

did anyone read Bin Laden's new message? Uh so basically we are going to get blown up by Al Queda in the near future. ANNNDDDD that's because he understands how the majority of Americans hate George Bush. HMmm somehow I'm still not a fan of Bin's....HMmm

My message to you is about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and the way to end it.

I had not intended to speak to you about this issue, because, for us, this issue is already decided: diamonds cut diamonds.

Praise be to God, our conditions are always improving, becoming better, while yours are the opposite.

However, what prompted me to speak are the repeated fallacies of your President Bush in his comment on the outcome of US opinion polls, which indicated that the overwhelming majority of you want the withdrawal of the forces from Iraq, but he objected to this desire and said that the withdrawal of troops would send the wrong message to the enemy.

Bush said: It is better to fight them on their ground than they fighting us on our ground.

In my response to these fallacies, I say: The war in Iraq is raging and operations in Afghanistan are on the rise in our favour, praise be to God.

The Pentagon figures indicate the rise in the number of your dead and wounded, let alone the huge material losses.

To go back to where I started, I say that the results of the poll satisfy sane people and that Bush's objection to them is false.

Reality testifies that the war against America and its allies has not remained confined to Iraq, as he claims.

In fact, Iraq has become a point of attraction and recruitment of qualified resources.

On the other hand, the mujahideen, praise be to God, have managed to breach all the security measures adopted by the unjust nations of the coalition time and again.

The evidence for this are the bombings you have seen in the capitals of the most important European countries of this aggressive coalition.

As for the delay in carrying out similar operations in America, this was not due to the failure to breach your security measures.

Operations are in preparation and you will see them on your own ground once the preparations are finished, God willing.

Based on the above, we see that Bush's argument is false.

However, the argument that he avoided, which is the substance of the results of opinion polls on withdrawing the troops, is that it is better not to fight the Muslims on their land and for them not to fight us on our land.

We do not object to a long-term truce with you on the basis of fair conditions that we respect.

We are a nation to which God has disallowed treachery and lying.

In this truce, both parties will enjoy security and stability and we will build Iraq and Afghanistan which were destroyed by the war.

There is no defect in this solution other than preventing the flow of hundreds of billions to the influential people and war merchants in America, who supported Bush's election campaign with billions of dollars.

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Morrissey supports animal rights violence

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Animal RightsMORRISSEY, the pop singer and outspoken vegan, has been
branded
irresponsible for publicly backing violent attacks by extremists
against
scientists and companies involved in medical research using animals.

Morrissey supports animal rights violence

The Sunday Times January 15, 2006

Morrissey supports animal rights violence
Jason Allardyce

MORRISSEY, the pop singer and outspoken vegan, has been branded
irresponsible for publicly backing violent attacks by extremists
against
scientists and companies involved in medical research using animals.

The former frontman of the 1980s group the Smiths said he believed
terror
tactics were justified against those who conducted animal experiments
because they had brought it on themselves.

Morrissey also singled out proudly carnivorous television chefs Jamie
Oliver
and Clarissa Dickson Wright as enemies of the animal rights movement.

His comments, however, prompted criticism from organisations attacked
by
animal activists, and politicians who warned that any such potential
incitement should be investigated by the police.

The singer, whose old band is a favourite of David Cameron, the Tory
leader,
made his remarks in an interview with an online fanzine called True to
You.
He said: “I support the efforts of the Animal Rights Militia (ARM) in
England and I understand why fur farmers and so-called laboratory
scientists
are repaid with violence — it is because they deal in violence
themselves
and it’s the only language they understand — the same principles that
apply
to war.”

Morrissey said he approved of such tactics because “you reach a point
where
you cannot reason with people” who carry out animal experiments. “They
(the
ARM) are usually very intelligent people who are forced to act because
the
law is shameful or amoral.”

He added: “With people in the world such as Jamie Oliver and Clarissa
Dickson Wright there isn’t much hope for animals.”

Oliver infuriated animal rights campaigners when he cut a lamb’s throat
without stunning it on Jamie’s Great Escape, a Channel 4 series.

Dickson Wright is an outspoken country sports campaigner and meat
eater. As
a comment on Labour’s hunting ban she included a dish of sauteed deer
testicles, called Bollocks to Blair, in a recent recipe book.

Morrissey’s fanzine comments have also been posted on the website of
North
American Animal Liberation, a group with close links to the Animal
Liberation Front in Britain.

Dickson Wright has received death threats because of her support for
hare-coursing and foxhunting. She has been assigned a special branch
officer
to provide security advice and support. She said Morrissey’s comments
would
not put her off.

“He’s probably cracked from a lack of animal protein,” she said. “It is
a
very serious business. What they’ve done to the research workers is
terrifying. They have burnt houses down, they beat people up and throw
acid.
They are extremely nasty pieces of work.

“Morrissey is encouraging people to commit acts of violence and I am
constantly aware that something might very well happen to me.”

Oliver could not be reached for comment.

Morrissey’s comments follow a recent surge in terrorist activity by
animal
rights militants. In November, ARM claimed responsibility for two
incendiary
devices planted under the car of Kathryn Grant, the widow of a senior
pharmaceuticals executive who had been dead for more than a year.

Alexander Grant, 49, was the former managing director of the British
division of Roche, the Swiss pharmaceutical conglomerate which has long
been
a target of activists for its links to Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS),
an
animal research laboratory in Cambridgeshire.

The previous month, death threats from ARM forced nine companies to
sever
links with HLS after letters were sent to the home addresses of
directors.
Directors of Leapfrog Day Nurseries received similar letters because
the
company had offered childcare vouchers to staff at HLS, something it
has
since stopped.

Morrissey, born in Manchester, has been a vociferous advocate of animal
rights for 20 years, even releasing an album, while with the Smiths,
entitled Meat Is Murder.

While he has never before supported violent tactics, he has taken part
in
high-profile campaigns, including joining the Dalai Lama and Imogen
Bailey,
the Australian supermodel, to protest against alleged mistreatment of
elephants in Thailand.

Last night David Davis, Cameron’s home affairs spokesman, said of the
singer’s latest comments: “Any incitement to violence is obviously
wrong in
a civilised society and should be investigated by the police.”

A spokesman for HLS said: “People can have whatever opinions they want,
but
to condone and encourage acts of violence is entirely wrong and should
not
be allowed in a democracy.”

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cured,
whiteofyoureye

So are his dogs vegan, too? JUST KIDDING woye!

I figure if cats took over, they wouldn't be struggling about whether things "with a face" were suffering. It's just life. I have a problem with sadistic torture, but not of simple eating of animals. After giving into my roommates who were rather militant, and not eating meat, then they started in on not eating anything that required vast amounts of land to be farmed, and not to wear clothing that came from un-certified organic farms, and on and on and on. I'm sorry... I can't go that far.

I eat very little meat, when I do, I try to stick to non-factory farm products, but sometimes it just doesn't happen that way. It's good to have extremists to keep us all in check and help keep us aware, but I'm not one of them. I would like to see us work on just simply treating human beings well, and then maybe I'll think about other species...

mmmmm luscious Lobster....

Drnnn nrrrt nrrr nrrr nrrr nrrt nrrt
woooooooooot Rock Lobster

I do love lobster. However, they scream when you dump them into boiling water.

How I love to hear them scream! mu ha ha! :-0

signed:
The Barbarian

LOL...Scared!!!! You are so cruel!!!!

And I have to agree with Pyra... ("I would like to see us work on just simply treating human beings well, and then maybe I'll think about other species...") we, humans, have a long way to go...
And oh god...those pics are a bit scary...moz is a loony...the lack of sex is not doing so good for his mental health...any act of extremism is scary..."A spokesman for HLS said: “People can have whatever opinions they want, but to condone and encourage acts of violence is entirely wrong and should not be allowed in a democracy." Very true...

completely unrelated:
i doubt someone like morrissey is without sex. highly. i think he just likes the glamour of being superiorly handsome and celibate.

for anyone who is interested: http://www.myspace.com/morrissey

there's new info on ROTT (Ringleader of the Tormentors), Morrissey's forthcoming album - in the bio for it, you'll find some VERY surprising lyrics. things, the once famed "sexless" mancunian, would never have uttered...but now, well - things have changed, i suppose. VERY interesting lyrics, if i do say so - and just when i thought the smiths' "let me get my hands on your mammary glands/and let me get your head on the conjugal bed...i crack the whip and you skip/but you deserve it, deserve it, deserve it/and when we're in your scholarly room/whom will swallow whom?/you handsome devil..." was graphic...oh, boy!

we'll see how good the moz' new cd will be...
i never listen to the critics because they are so full of sh*t - they tend to rate releases on how good they should be, rather than how good they actually are.

which leads me to another mystery:
so - like, why are morrissey & placebo, who both put out SUPERB work on their last albums, working with world famous producers like Tony Visconti, who is also at the top of his game - and the cure has to hire vanilla ice's producer to do their recording?!

maybe the quality of production has something to do with why morrissey & placebo's last cd's were so much better than the last cure cd (which was alarmingly bad).

- and the cure has to hire vanilla ice's producer to do their recording?! - ROFL!!! OMG, filth, you kill me.

The root of societies problems could be because of how we treat animals. You can also work on more then one cause at a time. Blacks were fighting for the right to vote and got it, but women were also saying we want to vote as well. They also got the message out and got a movement going. The fact of the matter is that factory farming is a horrible thing, and everyone should care what happens to the food they are going to eat. Besides humans have always been bad, I don't think we can fix human problems while we are exploiting other species, and saying that it is ok.

I agree that factory farming is WRONG...but to say that "The root of societies problems could be because of how we treat animals"... is a little too much...
In Brazil factory farming is illegal...and it should be all over the world...
Brazilian cattle are internationally known as "green cattle" because they are raised free-range. All meat products exported by Brazil are first inspected by the country's Ministry of Agriculture in accordance with international sanitation standards.
At least they don't torture the poor animals...

How can you justify spending your time helping animals when there are so many people who need help?”

There are very serious problems in the world that deserve our attention, and cruelty to animals is one of them. We should try to alleviate suffering wherever we can. Helping animals is not any more or less important than helping human beings—they are both important. Animal suffering and human suffering are interconnected.

i agree with you anon

I don't believe that only addressing the way we treat animals is the solution. It is a symptom. We have many symptoms of our barbaric and animalistic urges. I just don't find animal rights at the top of my list of priorities for solving the human condition.

i'm ashamed to say - i think the moz has it about right this time:

"Steel-Blue eyes with no love in them,
Scan The World,
And a humourless smile,
With no warmth within,
Greets the world"

They just gave a local guy (41 years old) 1 year for dowsing a cat in gasoline and setting the poor creature ablaze.

That's just sick.