Here are your props for that pic.

I admit I fantasize about Natalie whispering japanese haikus ito my ear and then....

She is actually fluent in Japanese (man is she hot. Mep is looking in the wrong direction).

I like Keira Knightley better, she's the same type as portman but without the big ass or beer gut.

First of all she has the stomach of a ten year old boy.

And as for her "big ass?"

If that's what you call big then you must live on a planet where they've never heard of JLo.

Sharpshooting right to "ass and gut" already shows what level of perception you're at anyways so I won't even bother arguing the more sophisticated beauty that lies in the genes of this fine creature.

Because she certainly can't act!

...no thats Keira you're talking about.

Portman actually has acting chops and can hold the camera anytime she wants.

Neither of those things were prerequisites for starring in a star wars movie (which are I'm assuming the only things you've seen her in).

A pity.
Stop watching poorly acted and written George Lucas mega franchise movies and start seeing some good movies for a change (like the professional or beautiful girls). You may actually be pleasantly surprised.

...from what I have seen, she is dumber than a box of hair. I am willing to allow that she does not interview well. I think the bigger shame is the further dissemination that women need to be tiny in order to be attractive.

You stole your witty line from "True Lies" Bossy, where did i steal mine from?*


*This is meant as a fun little trivia game, and I bear you no ill will for cribbing a good line from an otherwise dreadful movie/propaganda piece.

you can also see her tramping about in Heat.

eh? eh? (okay i'll go face the wall now).

and titties that make you wanna stand up and scream for buttermilk.

I believe the line is "ass like a ten year old boy".

I was rather referring to Natalie's nubile stomach. Her ass is actually that of a 14 year old girl.

If I had intended to resort to "stealing" quotes I would have bothered to be more accurate and selective towards quotes of a higher level of wit.

Let it never be said that my anal retentive attention to detail failed to yield positive results.

"When I get home I get anal. I mean no matter how clean I want it."

-Peter Griffin

Cinephiles? More like pedaphiles. Any priests out there?

Idiots. I like my sex fantasies like I like my wine--full bodied and mature.

Foxy, here, in this, we seem to differ (for a change!).  Dude, she's all like 20 or 21, or 18.  But she's no pedo-bait.  And my fantasies don't have any age restrictions (other than the lawful and ethical ones). 

No, Rocks, I'm not talking about the attractiveness of Natalie Portman, but rather that her attractive features discussed by two board members are attractive because they resemble 12 year old boys or 14 year old girls, depending on who you care to ask. That's at least a little creepy.

Now, I know there's some debate over when people should be considered mature, but most people would agree 12 year old boys and 14 year old girls aren't viable sex symbols (those of us not closely affiliated with rap's royalty or NAMBLA, anyways.)

If you find Portman attractive because she's a beautiful 20-ish old, that's one thing. But thinking she's hot because she looks like a pre-teen boy or a barely pubescent girl? Would you rather have the real thing, but are afraid of legal repercussions? Or are you just making stupid and unjustifiable comparisons for the sake of stupid and unjustifiable comparisons?

And by mature, I mean physically mature, not old. Anyone who looks like a mature specimen is possible fantasy fodder.

Right.  OK.  Thanks.  It has been argued in learned circles and by other psychologists that the essence of beauty (in a western/european sense) includes childlike features.

I do find Portman and Keightly very very attractive.  Because they're beautiful.  Dunno what I base my calling people beautiful on though.  Now I'm thinking about it.  Thanks, needed to think about something this arvo, so as to look thoughtful if and when my supervisor comes by.

OH!  And I usually add an element of stupidity to my posts, but only become unjustifiable in the pursuit of ulitmate supidity and silliness.

I've heard about that childlike features thing too, which to me is kind of strange, but it really makes perfect sense, how I've heard it explained. Baby features make us feel protective, thereby giving "cute" animals and humans greater survival rates. But there's a lot of "attractive" features that don't follow this (breasts, anyone?) I, being the freak that I am, find human babies, and therefore things that resemble human babies, repulsive, so I don't get the "people who look like babies are sexy" thing.

People are also socialized to like certain things. How else can you explain the shift from "fat is beautiful" to "skinny is hot?" That's not something programmed into us, that's society's values showing up in our preferences.

And please don't think I'm trying to attack you, Rocks. I just can't accept the whole "children are sexy" thing, call me prudish if you must.

Nah dude, quite the opposite.  I see your angle.  I tend to think of babies as foood...no wait, I mean human larvae.  They're all helpless, and shapeless, and gooey.  I detest them, and kids that get in my DAMN WAY AT THE SUPERMARKET!

Anything that can't at least feed itself and poo outside isn't worth bothering with. Unless it's furry. Furry is good.

And as far as her acting skills go, she's not terribly impressive. Yes, she was pretty good in the Professional, but that's because I wasn't expecting much from a child. Her biggest feats in that movie were being able to pout and scowl. Most children can learn to do that fairly quickly. Attractive? Yes. Exceptonally talented? Not by a long shot.

The age comments were a quote from the movie "True Lies". It was a funny scene because they were unexpected comments from Bill Paxton, and afterward, Schwarzenegger fantasizes about killing him.

I for one don't think of boys when I'm admiring a woman's form. I'll leave that to the ancient greeks and catholic priests.

I know. And they were stupid lines in the movie and don't bear repeating.

There's some things I get up-tight about. This is one of them.

I thought they were funny when he said them, and I laughed when Ahnold proceeded to throttle him.

Sounds good to me. But I think we agree on the throttling bit.

thanks j-town that was gonna be my first point.

on to the second

F-foxy if you were referring to MY posts as being pedophilic(real word?)you're off track.
If not, disregard this.
I would not even have brought up Portman's ass or stomach (ANd I dont think I even ever said anything about her breasts)had some idiot not decided to rank them along with a 45 year old ("bigg ass and beer gut"). I offered a truer size-up of Portman's nubile bodyparts to contest and argue a point but that size-up was meant to refer to what "idiot" happened to find "attractive" or unattractive, not myself.
To me a physical body is simply either attractive or not. Age has very little to do with it. If I am called out as a pedophile for admitting I find NAtalie physically attractive than it is the CALLER not myself who is leaning towards the childlike impression of her. If a 60 year old looked like Natalie Portman head to foot she would be in my book. So age is an incidental issue not essential.
This is not to say that her youthfulness is not attractive itself. IT is the spirit of youth that embodies innnocence, health, strength, energy all the things that matter towards sexual attraction within human beings. I find a lot of that spirit in Portman's persona and her beautiful physical youthfulness runs complimentary towardes that spirit. Theres also a certain quality and access that younger people have that allow them to achieve spontaneous levels of brilliance. Natalie was fluent in three languages before she finished high school and as you adequately put gave her best performance even before then. That's the stuff that makes her great. Hence the JApanese haiku fantasy I have with her. And as the old japanese proverb goes: "experience should fear the strength of youth".
and we all know "ANyone who does not recieve the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."
I think the whole negative aspects of sexuality as it refers to age is even more of a society bred or inbred element than the pedophile's view. I've always noticed for example that the only thing more annoying, self-indulgent and embarrassing than the gay-boosters are the gay-bashers. That theory works with a lot of isms in this country and this here is no exception. WE all hate the catholic priests for what they've done, thats the EASY part. But in the race for a supreme justice it does little good to jump up on top of your opponent; the minute you've stopped him from winning you've stopped yourself as well. Better rather to run around him and keep running till eventually you win.
I think we are too overtly aware of our sexuality and how it can go wrong much like a battered wife who's tactfulness is constantly on the edge of a knife. Youthfulness and sexuality coexist in nature and it s dubious to think otherwise. The pedophiles are obviously the subversive elements perverting that nature but if age itself were the issue than I wonder why nature took it upon herself to impose puberty upon us at the not-so-ripe-old age of 11-13. The same folks pointing fingers of "moral responsibility" at pedophiles are the same ones who pay the world of cosmetics to spend 90 percent of their (and our) time trying to make us look like children. Women especially shave the leg, condition the hair, bodywash, liposuction, platic surgery and all that pancake make-up to get rid of fat, hair, wrinkles, any and all signs of age. Is that a coincidence?
I still think of my sister as a kid because she's my sister and if a pedophile happened to ever abuse her I can't even imagine how little time it would take for me to dispatch him (or her). I hate pedophiles like I hate all perverts. But level of perversion and type of perversion are two different things. For example Michael Jackson is among the most famous and popular perverts in the world but I wonder if he's the most dangerous? Sometimes the greatest perverts are the "anti-perverts". Hate to end this on this note but this was too good;
-"The most vicious attackers of myself and what I do; those people are the closet perverts. I know them. I've danced for them."- Jenna Jameson

It only took me a couple of tries, but I finally managed to read your rant. Dude, you consistently make laugh. Thanks for the giggle.

Plus you got it right. Had Jenna read Hamlet lately she might have used the term:
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

It is true, the loudest voices, are usually the people who are suffering the most internal conflict.

Just ask any gay basher...

Not really movie talk, but I always like the subject.

I'm still trying to work out the details of your rant. You still have much to learn when it comes to coherence.

And quoting a porn princess? Now there's a difinitive source. It never happened to enter your head that there may be other reasons that I feel protective towards children when it comes to matters of pedophilia? That maybe those who bitch loudest have a valid reason to bitch?

Yes, you in particular As the "caller," as you so succintly put it, I pointed out that you compared her to a child. You said it, not me. I just pointed. I have no impression of her as a child, I have no problem with people finding her attractive as an adult woman. I have a problem with you saying she resembles a child and in the same breath finding those qualities "sexy."

Yes, youth and sexuality is closely linked and has been for eons. But really, youth does not embody those things. Young maturity does. Otherwise, wouldn't we all be worshipping babies? Innocense is desirable, to a point. Health--yeah, we all like health, but health doesn't stop when you hit 20. As far as beautifying goes, yeah, people shave, condition, wear make-up, etc. But I've never seen a child with naturally ruby red lips or powder blue eye lids. Conditioned hair FEELS nicer. Smooth legs do too. So maybe there's more to it than the constant search for youth.

And it's pretty hard not to be aware of one's sexuality. Sex is constantly thrown at you, in tv, music, you name it, it's there. But it's not the presence of sex that makes it intolerable, it's the constant fight between the presence and the taboo quality sex has.

Puberty hits early so that we can begin to pump out the kids ASAP, as is necessary to rpopagate a species. But society has changed so that humans don't mature mentally until they're well past puberty. And puberty hits early because it's a frigging long process. Just because you can get pregnant at 13 doen't mean it's healthy. The number of problem pregnancies in teens is much higher than that of women who have children later (but then the curve goes down again with older women, who have high incidences of birth defects.)

And please don't quote Christian rhetoric to me. It certaintly has very little emotional effect, other than to annoy.

So you're telling me that anti-abortionists are secretly the ones who want abortions? And pro-gun lobbyists are really closet peaceniks? That theory works in some cases, but guess what--sometimes the anti-pedophiles are just what they seem.

Remind me not to ever push this button again. And let that be a warning for the rest of you!

Actually it was meatsack who pushed it to begin with. In any case its amazing how much of a headache wrong impressions can make.

I'll start writing better the day you start reading better (WE've been through this old chestnut foxy).

Regardless.

I'm realizing how hot a button this is for you so I'll make this as relatively quick and painless as possible. First of all if you read these posts once thoroughly you'll notice I never made any connection between natalie having underage physical traits and my affinity towards her. I hate to have to be so blunt and deadpan redundant but you've left me no choice(and thats not meant to be quite so provoking as it sounds either). I said she has a stomach like a 10 year old boy because meatsack was under the misconception that she has a beer gut. I mentioned her ass for the same reason; her ass does look like a preteen's; I never said I wanted to therefore eat it. All the points I was making along the way were illustrative points meant to show what I see happening in the common gunplay between boosters and bashers in general as well as in this particular case i.e. not my personal convictions.

And BTW a "healthy sexual age" in this country is not the same as it is in other countries or centuries for that matter.

If this is an issue for you, feel free to vent however much you feel is necessary for you (I do no less concerning my own issues)just be careful where you direct them. Because as self-righteous as you are about your protective feelings towards children of pedophilic victimhood I am equally as self-righteous about my right to not be falsely accused, tried and convicted by well-intentioned yet trigger-happy bashers who have just enough righteous anger to throw off their coordinates once in a while. (And if you read that again you'll notice I never actually tagged you, particularly, as one of them..yet. Nor do I think that either of these self-righteousnesses are unjustified).
I respect your feelings but in all honesty two and two was never even there to put together. I never put references to her body parts and references to her being hot in the same sentence and even if I had it doesn't automatically make me a pedophile any more than quoting a Bible verse automatically has anything to do with what you think is Christianity. There has been much blood spilled in the name of good and against the name of evil and the rest of the time "in the name of" period. So you calling me a pedophile I can only accept as a naming of names since I know I'm not one. My earlier promise is in the process of being dishonoured so I will now shake the dust of this post off my feet.
"...when you grow up, if you still feel raw about it,....I'll be waiting."

Start reading better, hmmmm?

" "big ass and beer gut" October 18 2003, 4:20 AM

First of all she has the stomach of a ten year old boy.

And as for her "big ass?"

If that's what you call big then you must live on a planet where they've never heard of JLo.

Sharpshooting right to "ass and gut" already shows what level of perception you're at anyways so I won't even bother arguing the more sophisticated beauty that lies in the genes of this fine creature."

That is exactly what you said. Right at the beginning, reference to ten year old boy. Right at the end, rather smarmy bit about her beauty. 2 and 2 is four, no? Furthermore, you (not I, as you previously said) perceive her physical traits as childlike. And you say she's attractive. Not too hard to put those two thoughts together.

And later: "I was rather referring to Natalie's nubile stomach. Her ass is actually that of a 14 year old girl." That's a fairly easy connection to make: 10 year old boy's stomach=nubile.

It also seems to be a rather earnest statement. At least J-town had the sense to use his quote jokingly.

My initial intention was not to call you a pedophile, but rather point out that some rather off the cuff remarks were a little offensive. But you're not making a very strong case for yourself.

Healthy sexual age has changed over centuries and is different in different countries. I thought it was clear that when I refered to "society" that I meant the society that we're part of, not any society that has or does exist.

You never tagged me as a "basher", but that doesn't mask your intentions. I really don't know how much of the October 20 2003, 2:25 PM post was directed at me; it can very easily be read as "those who protest most are the most guilty." As I seem to be the only one protesting, it's not hard to make that mental leap.

And as long as the Bible is read as a primarily Christian text, it will be regarded as such.

I'll direct my protests where I see something needing to be protested.

"The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom."--HL Mencken

"There are compensations for growing older. One is the realization that to be sporting isn't at all necessary. It is a great relief to reach this stage of wisdom."--Cornelius Otis Skinner

You're really beginning to worry me with that last post foxy. I've never seen you this off-centered or off-mark. Although I try to be as earnest as I can with my posts (what with all the half-witted frivolity this board usually sees) I never intend to betray the fun and games code that it was founded on. No matter what I argue for or against, the reality is that I respect your feelings on this matter because I understand where they from. But the more I argue this side the more offensive it must sound so I'll try my best not to hit quite this sour a note again.
Like I said your denseness in the last post there really did surprise me. Apparently quoting me verbatim didnt help.

"stomach of a ten year old boy"
"ass of a 14 year old girl"
First off if you notice that neither of these two posts were proclamations on my initiative but rather corrections I was making in response to mistakes in other's previous posts; hence "stomanch of ten year old boy" as opposed to meatsack's "big ass and gut" and "ass of a 14 year old girl" as opposed to Golo and J-town's movie quote "ass like a ten year old boy". The issue of youthful attractiveness hadnt even been brought up yet. And did in never occur to you that "more sophisticated beauty" meant as opposed to meatsack's level of "ass and gut" and not in accordance with? Or does the term "sophisticated beauty" limit itself to mere body parts in your understanding? Two apples and two oranges equal zero.

"Furthermore you"(by the way beauty, like misconception is in the eye of the beholder)"percieve her physical traits as childlike. And you say she's attractive. Not too hard to put those two thoughts together." Not hard at all. Unfortunately thats not what I did. I suggested that she was attractive period. Thus I find all of her traits including the physical(though childlike they may be to some extent) attractive not for the sake of being childlike but because they are hers. Is it my fault for being mesmerized by her even though some of her physical attributes may not have matured quite to the extent of the rest of her persona? Is every beautiful 20 something year old who happens to have small bodily features and age defying facial bone structure cursed to have romantic prospects disregard him or her for looking 6 years younger than actual age? It is Portman's all encompassing beauty(which includes her personality, artistry and radiance as a performer) that captivated me from the getgo not the miniscule size of her butt or breasts but since those kinds of things are still part of her and do whatever little their part is in making her who and what she is I can't simply cut them off from the amazing sum of her parts.

"It also seems to be a rather earnest statement. At least J-Town had the sense to use his quote jokingly."
You'll notice that others have responded to my quotes in these posts as "laughter inducing" and "witty". You're the only one insisting upon its earnestness.

"My initial intention was not to call you a pedophile, but point out that some rather off the cuff remarks were a little offensive."
Actually if you refer back to your first "initial" response to this post you'll see you used the "pedophile" reference from square one. You fired the pedophile gun before there was hardly any "evidence" you could start building a case upon which is why I percieve your response as reflections more upon personal feeling than what I actually wrote.
(BTW when you're covering your own ass try not to let those kinds of things slide. I've made similar mistakes in the past if you recall.)

Though I live in this society my heritage and certain sensitivities stream from beyond. It is possible to have ideas towards health and sex that are not limited only to the specific society one currently inhabits. But its a shame that certain issues call for actions like that of Luc Besson's when he made a more "palatable" version of "Leon" for american theaters.

Getting a little tired now and everything else I have to argue about your post I more or less covered in my previous posts. A thing about your end quotes. They were kind of blah if you'll excuse me for saying so. The point of ending on a quote is to say something someone's already said better than you could. (I'm just busting on you cuz you like busting me about my own writing techniques ).

I think this post is suffering from a discoloured somberness and I have the suspicion that you and I are the only ones still checking it.

Oh BTW the Bible quote = Christianity thing. In my opinion thats the way it SHOULD be but I'm not convinced its always the case. Remember "Jules":
"I never gave much thought as to what it meant. I just thought it was some coldblooded shit to say to a motherfucker before I pop a cap in his ass. But something happened earlier today that made me think twice. See now Im thinkin it means that your the evil man and Im the righteous man and Mr. nine Millimeter here, he's the shephard protecting my righteous ass through the valley of darkness. Or it could mean that your the righteous man and I'm the shephard and its the world thats evil and selfish. And I'd like that. But that shit aint the truth. The truth is your the weak and I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm trying Ringo. I'm tryin real HARD to be the shephard."

In my opinion God sometimes tends to use quotes of men to better effect than men use the "quotes" of God

Ah, Bossy, dear, you misinterpret me at least as much as I misinterpret you! I DID use the word pedophiles. In fact, so did someone else before me. The sarcasm I used wasn't THAT heavily veiled. I'll have to get someone over here to tell you all about the sarcasm button some day.

If you'll follow closely the progression of my posts, you'll see that I started with sarcasm, had a rather earnest discussion with Rocks, a bit of conversation with J-town, and then, after my intentions should have been clear, you match my initial knee-jerk reaction with one much more incindiary that it ever needed to be. My position should have been rather obvious. And immediately retorting with a rather accusatory post in your defense was not necessary. If you'll closely look at the discussions I had with the afore mentioned, you'll realize that I can be fairly reasonable. Yet you just dig yourself deeper.

All of the "evidence" i quote was there befor I weighed in. Constantly protesting that I miss your mysterious meaning does not negate what you wrote. There is quite a bit of ruminating on personal feelings, feeling brought on by the crude quotes used by you and others. Again, if you read what I and others discussed, you'll find that I was not hell-bent on proving that you were a practicing pedophile but rather that I found the words used rather disconcerting.

Yes, someone DID find you funny--our loveable 8 bucks! And we all love him so and trust his opinions unconditionally, I'd see where that would be a great honor!

You may have misunderstood the quotes I chose. If they seem uneffective, it's probably because I didn't set them up terribly well; I do tend to be rather vague and hope that people will catch my meaning. I can explain them to you if you'd like. The first was a response to your quote about "still feeling raw about it once I'd grown up(and, thus, become wise)."

Yes, we probably are the only ones checking this thread. But it was a scabbed-over wound that you decided to pick at. You should know by now that when I'm poked I jump at the chance to bitch. That's not new to you. That's where the second quote comes in. That's me recognizing that neither of us are exactly playing fair in this. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, when it comes to debate or defending one's thoughts. Both debate and defense keep one's mind agile, so I don't feel this was a waste of my time. I'm sorry if you don't feel the same. Your writing techniques have improved greatly. I mean that. It's pretty rare that I even get the chance to pounce upon mistakes or poor quality in your writing anymore.

If you'd like, maybe we can agree on the fact that I did not seriously mean that you were or are a practicing pedophile or contemplating any actions to that effect, that you did not really intend any connections to be drawn between the sentences that you wrote (I'm just trying to sum up you're protests on this, let me know if I'm wrong), and that we should read everything at least 5 times before responding so that there aren't any more of these mix-ups. Oh, and that apparantly we're both rather obsessive in our need to defend our ideas.

You know what this reminds me of?
That pivotal scene in "Heat" with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro sitting in the coffee shop trying to out-insinuate each other.

I'm still not catching this "sarcasm" factor you're throwin at me. Is it sarcastic because you used the word "pedophile" or because you said you DIDNT use it?I'll be a good Toddite and "whatever it" but to me sarcasm would have been if you had replied with something more along the lines of:
"Oh Bossy, you're my HEEero!!(*high-pitched-giggle*)
By the way you wanna come to my birthday party? I just turned fourteen and I need someone to chaparone in case R. Kelly can't make it."

By the way I think I'll lace this one with movie quotes just in case there's some poor soul out there still reading this mexican standoff string wondering what the hell this has to do with movies. And thus I will also put on my best DeNiro "there's a flip side to that coin" sneer.

Actually when I write sarcasm I try to be as broad about it as I can cuz most of the time sarcasm ends up sounding like fingernails on chalk. I thought I put some in there and 8 bucks seemed like he picked up on some of it. Whether or not thats to his credit I have no idea. I took a bit of a brief hiatus from the board a week ago or so and my memory's been a little hazy. What's the dealio with want 8 bucks back again? (me too lazy to go back through the whole board to figure out his story).

So anyway I didnt mean to sound so "incendiary", at least not without toungue in cheek. BTW everytime I hear that word I think "Russell! Russell! your guitar sound...its inCENdiary!..inCENdiary!!"-(Almost Famous)

One thing cracks me up though. I don't know how you go from "..you'll realize I can be fairly reasonable" and "..I'm not hell-bent..found the words used rather disconcerting" straight to "you should know by now that when I'm poked I jump at the chance to bitch". Its like you've got this Hannibal Lector thing going; he's actually quite the gentleman...so long as you don't say or do anything rude. Then its time for liver and fava beans! Do I have the same temperament? of course. But I guess its also a reason why I talked at such length about the whole basher's hot button complex thing. I guess premature bashing is one of my hot buttons and something I cant stand. It's like we all have good intentions but they all go out the window once the hot buttons are pushed. Hitler was an idealist. White supremacy was his ideal. We're not so quick to point out what we think would be an "ideal" race but we're also not so slow when it comes to pointing out whats imperfect with each of them. What made Hitler unique among other evil driven madmen was not his ideals but that he was given the power to actually do something about them.

But I guess hot buttons at the very least allow for stimulating chains of events. I'll agree to smoke that peacepipe you handed me in your last paragraph but fear not, I hardly considered this a waste of my time. Its been fun in all honesty. "At this moment this is me at my most masochistic"(kill bill).

Its also fun to learn to adapt to one's "opponent".
"Well! We have something in common! We both know our guns."(Faceoff)

But its hard to disspell taboo issues. "You know what a guy should never ask when he walks into a Victoria Secret store? 'Does this come in children's sizes?'"(25th Hour)

Anyways I will now attempt my neurotic hand at sarcasm:

I'm proud to say I have accomplished what I always dreamed: to recieve Foxy's approval of my writing abilities. I can now retire.

P.S. I love you

Where did it come from?
And what do I want my 8 bucks back for anyway?
Well.. stupid story short, I think it was my first post, I was bitching about a film I think Matrix Dos, and I said "I want my 8 bucks back" and the 2 hours of my life stolen from me.

That's it.

I think it's time to register, and the whole rest.

P.S. I haven't seen too many new posts from Lionhearts lately. Mayhap, Meatsack aka: nutsack, meatballs, meathead, meat Puppet, meat-n-potatoes, sadsack, meat popsicle (apologies to Bruce Willis), and my favorite term for him 'dumbass' Maybe meatsack is the new lionhearts/coldfire/holystars.

Retire? Booooo! That would be one less person I'd have to rant at! I’ll pepper my post with song quotes, as I’m better at them, and why showcase my weaknesses when I can use vague quotes to complement my vague nature?

I never said I didn't USE the word pedophile(in fact I did the exact opposite), rather I said that it wasn't meant 100% seriously. "Cinephiles? More like pedophiles" was written with a definite eyeroll at the posting content, on the train of thought, "What are you guys, pedophiles? What an idiotic comparison." (I believe that comes under the heading of sarcasm; I'd give you a definition here, but I wouldn't want to insult you.) Not an accusation of pedophilia, but a remark intending for you to realize that I thought it was an idiotic comparison. My further comments (deja vu) should have made that fairly clear. “You don’t have to be a fool to be blind”
8 bucks is not my idea of a world class genius. Many of his comments are too dumb to shake a stick at. “And he's the one who likes All our pretty songs and he Likes to sing along and he Likes to shoot his gun but he Don't know what it means” And I CAN be reasonable, but that doesn't mean I HAVE to be. I've never claimed to be consistent. I tend to be reactionary sometimes, but if I'm dealt with pleasantly, I can be pleasant. I have been working on my split personality; I'm trying to be more multi-faceted in that way. “Come visit me at 8 o’clock tonight and you’ll see how I’m the crazy one, The voices tell me I’m the shit”

Sometimes you have to wonder at the rabid need of some people to defend their self against flippant remarks. (“Just because you’re paranoid don’t mean they’re not after you”?) I’m saying this in much the same way you said that bashers are often the most guilty; you could take it as directed at you, but I’ll be able to say that it was a general statement, and not, in fact, aimed at you at all. “You must tell me why this must be Did you lie when you spoke to me?”

Sorry to break it to you, but you haven’t gotten my complete approval on your writing abilities. “Each and every heart, it seems, is bounded by a world of dreams” I said it’s rare, not impossible, for me to find fault. Some of your comparisons are asinine (I’m like Hitler because I protested your original comparison and he supported ethnic cleansing to create a master race? Saying that that’s a stretch would be generous. You could say that Hitler and I both had good intentions (if you can say that a genocidal maniac can have good intentions), but somehow the results of our intentions are hardly comparable.) (So there, now you can’t retire.)

And I love you more. “We hurt the ones we love the most, it’s a subtle form of complement.”

"Fight me. I can take it. Even I can't fight on both sides at once, you know. That is, I can but I'm liable to win."

"...its just that you don't quite say it all do you?"
"Well one can't say it all it would take too long."
-C.S. Lewis


I'll take that last critique on my writing as weathered sarcasm. I know that deep down you consider my literary pearls as manna from heaven.

Speaking of, heres a quote I came up with all by myself (amazing!)
"An idealist will live off the butter of justification rather than the bread of justice."
(*elbow nudge*)eh, eh?
I know it sounds hokey in a high-school-sophomore trying-to-sound-deep-and-profound-during-English-class-discussion sort of way but I still think it works. It also relates to my theory about Hitler. (Which I might add was again one of my broad attempts at sarcasm. I thought that any comparson to Hitler would have been ludicrous enough for you to see it there but I guess that was my unfoolish blindness working)
Concerning the end results of a person like Hitler and the rest of us; the ends can justify(or condemn) the means only in as much means to an end one is allowed. I wonder if any one of us civil human beings were allowed the power to carry out our deepest ideals to their fullest realization, what or who may have to suffer as a result. All of this is exaggeration to make a point but the point being that our idealities are among the few things that can overwrite our moralities without alerting our conscience thereof. Hitler's idealities happened to require genocide while ours thankfully do not. And I doubt that few of us have ever been given the amount of power that Hitler was given so we could find out whether or not our ideals would run into moral dilemmas along the way. Hence we're able to conveniently seperate our moral values from our ideals while at the same time convincing ourselves that no matter what they will both always agree wiht each other because they both lean towards an ultimate "good". Hitler had to go through the mill of ideals conflicting with morals and when they're that far apart you either stick with one or twist them together like pipe cleaners. Like most men of extreme power he wasn't evil just for the sake of being evil. It was the delusion of his "ideals" towards his twisted vision of an "ultimate good=super race" that enabled him to not consider himself evil at all but to be above good and evil like a god of some sort. Self-righteousness has the ability to reach the delusion of claiming an infinite authority that can no longer be gauged by the finite scales of good and evil.
It is a scary element in the human psyche that once in a while produces unspeakable cases that would have nothing to do with the rest of us were we not creatures capable of idealities, self defense and self righteousness.

Actually never mind. I wasnt trying to compare you at all to Hitler. Did I even need to write that?

Ok this board really doesnt need so much crap on hitler so I'll cut that shit out. TO make a long story..not so long, your last quote works; "we hurt the ones we love" sometimes much more than we should and almost always in the name of that very love. Thats the tragic irony of every hater, basher, from Hitler, to politicians to religious groups to that one really racist uncle we all have. Its the essence of everything that ever went wrong that SHOULD have gone right. Michael-"I tried, Kay to protect you, all of you, from the horrors of this world."
Kay-"But you became MY horror."
--Godfather III

Oh and yes you can be a genicidal maniac with good intentions which goes to show just how much good intentions amount to at the end of the day. In fact its much easier to be a genicidal maniac with good intentions than it is to be one with bad intentions. As much sadistic mania as it takes, it also takes that much confidence and Gungho "positive energy" optimism to kill that many people that methodically and successfully; "Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in next to soccer"-(Dogma)
I think Ned FLanders actually said it best: "Well my FAMILY can't live on your gooooood intentions, Marge!"

Hmm. thats all for now I think.
BTW hows my sarcasm coming along? Did I dot all the i's and cross all the t's? Do I get to enter the class spelling bee?

Oh and about your split personality, don't you ever change foxy dear or I'll kill you. The both of you.

"It is essential to the sanity of each human being to believe that everyone else is crazy."-Dickinson

Yeah, I've been trying to keep my length down, too.

I guess I can't see Hitler's intentions as "good." Desiring to create a master race is pretty evil. Then again, maybe my education has tainted my perspective.

Your sarcasm is getting better. I think you suffer, as I do, from the vagueness--I'm sometimes not sure if you're being a prick or being sarcastic. Oh, well.

"We never are gonna survive Unless weare a little crazy."--Seal

And I seriously doubt that racists work on the principle that they secretly love the other race. Doesn't hold up. Hurting the ones we love the most works betteron an individual basis--and whether they would even be hurt if they hadn't opened themselves up to the possibility is doubtful.

What's wrong with you people? Isn't this a movie chat?

If one gets a stiffy (or shoots brine out of their queef-hole) when Ms. Portman sings "Like a Virgin" in "The Professional", does that make one a pedderass?

Also has it occured to you that hot underage bitches are oftened sprinkled in movies to appeal to dumb underage boys, and some boys just have a damn hard time growing up? So isn't raking pedderasses over the coals a little like making fun of retards because they are both "developmentally disabled"? I agree that both can be great fun.

Damn!!

All this shit because I called some broad fat!

Child boy
Zip up your pants and shut your trap.
Otherwise I might just have to visit you and make you toss my salad while singing "like a virgin".

OR I can get meatsack to clog that filthy mouth of yours with something filthier. He seems to consider Ms. Portman(who's the size of a teenybopper) too heavyset for him so I'm sure you (or at least certain parts of you) would be perfect for his tastes in the miniscule.

Please do not include me in your homo-erotic fantasies, thank you

Why not?
Your name is the best gay-porn stagename I've seen since Dirk Diggler.
You two should cut a video called
"Lord Farquaad and Meatsack: The Prince and the popper"

cmon...

you people are pathetic with these huge posts arguing about an actress you'll never meet in your entire life. shut up. argue about something important.

...please tell us what this more important thing is that we should be arguing about.

On second thought, bite me.

who was this post about originally?
oh yeah Natalie Portman.

For the record I HAVE met Natalie in the flesh. It was a few summers ago when she was in New York for a month doing a chekov play.

You see in a MOVIE board you argue about people who are in MOVIES regardless of whther you met em or not. Portman has been famous in the past for taking on lolita roles and causing contraversy for showing an exceptional precociousness towards acting as well as beguiling male leads beyond her years. In lesser hands, this rep could have caused her a teenage tramp sticker if it werent for the fact that much of her beauty lies in her having (or at least exhibiting) an innocent and graceful quality and relatively reserved character which makes her all the more appealing.

That's why she is "important" and you are "Anonymous".
At least insofar as this thread is concerned.

yikes, i repeat.. pathetic.

There seems to be an echo in your posts.
Filling it up with some meaning might help.

hahaha, I agree. this dude is pathetic. and it's sad he keeps trying to defend himself when he just looks like even more of a loser. aw
keep it up! it's great