Has anyone seen the new trailer of Episode III? It was on TV a couple of times, and AOL users can see it online. What did you think? I dont know- it looks cool, but so did the trailer for ATOC. I hope Lucas worked on that pesky acting issue.
your best shot at watching it is to borrow a friend's AOL account. Otherwise, Lucas has it up on the starwars.com website, but you have to be a paid member. what a joke.
anyway, for those that have watched it already....I thought the scene of Vader rising was a bit cheesy. I thought it could have been darker, more manacing. Less light, more smoke...that sort of thing.
The Emperor w/ a light saber. That looked cool. I heard (spoiler alert) that Yoda and the Emperor battle in this one. Sweet.
I think out of all of them this has the potential to be the best. Even though they are using the same anakin who is absolutely terrible, I still reserve hope, A new hope if you will (shoot me now, but I had to do it) that this will be good. Here's to hoping that Yoda doesn't fly around like a damn yellow jacket and anakin isn't in it for too long before he changes to good old darthy.
Turkish... unfortunately you're going to be very dissapointed... Yoda indeed flies around, he fights Sidious/Palpatine...and Anakin, is anakin for the whole movie except the last five minutes in which he is in the Vader suit. But APPARENTLY he acts very well from what i've heard. He wasnt that bad tho, he dominated every scene he was in, in Ep.II, go back and watch it (as painful as it might be) and you'll see he's always the dominate presense on screen. At least i thought so
Anyways if ya wanna learn more about Ep.III but dont wanna become a member of the starwars.com crap, go to www.supershadow.com,you'll know everythign you could possibly want to and more.
So let me get this straight, Senator Palpatine is THE Emperor? I sure as hell hope they explain why he looks like he got pancake batter on his face in 'Jedi' Frankly, I always thought the guy that played the emperor and the main bad buy from 'Lethal Weapon II' were the same person (you know, 'diplomatic immunity!').
Nonetheless, its been my experience that playing the broodish bad guy is virtually the easiest role to manifest on film ('Wah wah - I have an inner conflict, I don't what to do, no one understands my pain' - and so forth). So no props to Hayden, yet. However, (and if indeed Mr Darth Vader does only appear in the final minutes), I am keen to see how Mr Lucas explains how Vader becomes over a foot taller than Anakin.
Moreover, maybe Mr Lucas will explain why R2, Threepeeo, and Obi Wan have no memory of each other in Episode IV.
Trailer looks good. Annikan is good and evil in the sith garb. Will the acting suck? You bet. Pretty tough to bring out emotion when you are talking to yourself. Harrison Ford's charisma made the franchise. The reputation of the first 3 still drives us to watch the new ones. Lucas owes Ford and the rest of the original cast big time.
Come now don't you believe Lucas when he says he had everything written before the original trilogy? He's a crock of excriment (sp), Hayden is terrible but not as bad as .... Natalie Portman. It was painful for me to watch her, I don't care how brick walled your character is you have to act a little... come on just a little? a smidgen perhaps? but no she gives nothing gah angers me so.
But if whats you say is true I will indeed be let down. I will most likely curl up in a fetal position on my bed gripping my chewy and han action figures close to my chest for a couple of days. HOW CAN HE RUIN ALL THREE!!!! O well I think the reason the emperor looks like he sun dried his face is because he has been corrupted by the Dark Side sooooo much it has made him into that... And I thought Vader became Vader over a looooonnnnnggg period of time like slowly his parts were replaced then an plane crash finally put him over into his final form... I mean how bad ass of a Jedi can you be if you keep losing limbs? You'd think if he was the best of the best he could atleast keep a hand or two...
Now what a true Star Warsian fan told me in college was that back in the early 70s, Lucas discovered and read this 2nd rate Japanese translated paperback, and loved the plot (to which he based the original trilogy on) so much he bought the rights - and subsequent remaining copies.
And if you remember such great and forgotten TV anime shows like 'Star Blazers' and/or 'Battle of the Planets' - I am inclined to believe my old roommate's tale is genuine.
Don't get me wrong I love (most) of his flicks, but Indiana Jones was more of Spielberg's excellence than of George. Remember 'Howard the Duck' or even 'The Radioland Murders?' Exactly.
I'm relatively sure star wars was based largely on a Kurosawa film called "The Hidden fortress" or maybe it was "The Secret Fortress" I'm going with hidden. I own it but I forgot the title, while watching it and looking for the star wars correlations they are to freakin obvious to pass up. The main difference is the ending is much happier (suprising) in the kurosawa movie and he splits one character into about 3. Cool movie though you should check it out. Yes I remember Battle of the Planets or Gachaman (sp) I have a couple of those DVDs as well throwing there crazy bird stuff everywhere (I hope thats the right show)...
Don't worry about the discrepancies. They are easily answered:
1) I can't BELIEVE you didn't know that Palpatine is the Emporer. Come on, dude, where have you been?
2) Everyone who turns to the Dark Side eventually gets pasty and yellowy-eyed, but apparantly the effect can be hidden if the Sith lord is powerful enough in the Force, or just needs to (ie to get involved in politics, cause chaos behind the scenes, and get 'elected' chancellor)
3) Darth Vader is taller than Anakin because most of his body --including his legs-- are mechanical. They aren't his real legs.
4) There's a lot of discussion about how the droids' memories will be erased at the end of Episode III, but personally, I think they only need to erase C3PO's. Think about R2: He's smart enough to keep his mouth shut. Let's say they DON'T erase his memory. He goes along his merry way, taking care of Princess Leia and not mentioning anything from the past, because he's a discreet little droid. Then, he ends up on Tatooine with Leia's message and needs to find Obi-Wan. Knowing that it's urgent, he lies and says he belongs to him. Or perhaps Leia had told him "you belong to Obi Wan now" so that R2's programming wouldn't be lying. Anyhow, he, Luke, and 3PO end up in Ben's cave. Luke says "he keeps saying he belongs to someone named Obi Wan Kenobi" and Ben says "I don't remember ever owning any droids." Well, he never DID own the droid. It could be that Ben recognizes R2 immediately, but chooses not to go into a whole thing about R2's history, because how could he explain that without going into a whole monologue and revealing that Leia is Luke's sister?
However, they DEFINITELY need to erase 3PO's memory at the end of Episode III, no question about it.
I am the first to admit that I am one subborn and skeptical SOB - yet, all your points make sense and does indeed fit into the logic of Episodes IV-VI.
Although (unless the plot of Episode III finds a clever way to explain it), C-3PO's memory loss could wind up being a real cop out. For instance, he falls on his head or something - that would be lame.
Moreover, I appreciate the Obi Wan explanation bridging Ep. III and IV - even if its just semantics, you're right, it makes sense (I would wager it must be some sort of Jedi training ritual - Luke had to discover the truth of his origins for himself on Dagobah, rather than be told by Obi Wan).
What was just posted? Gah I don't own the DVDs and I don't know why that upsets me so, but it does... maybe it's just because i think Hayden Christensen is terrible, just plain terrible, gah I hate that guy. You know I think Lucas hates star wars. I think he hates it soo much because it labeled him as "The director or Star Wars" that he is going to ruin them and in the process make a joke of all the fans that he also hates with the combined power of a million suns.
I was SO happy when I heard the original 3 were being released on DVD, but I kept reading about it and realized that calling them the "classic" trilogy was a sham because Lucas was going to make even more changes. How stupid. This isn't even the final FINAL version. Lucas is going to make an Archive Edition in like 2007 that will include all 6 movies and all the questionable issues in continuity will be fixed. Retch! Disgust!
I found that some enterprising people out there took their Definitive Edition laserdisk set (a limited edition Star Wars trilogy set released after the remastering of the originals and before the Special Edition) and burned it to DVD quite nicely. I bought this DVD set on eBay; it was excellent. Some of the sets are crap, I have heard, but the seller I purchased from had a good one.
The quality isn't as good as DVD, but it's the absolute best you can get of the original trilogy before Lucas started his tinkering with it. Lucas swears up and down that he will never release the trilogy again in its original form... so I recommend picking up one of these sets if you're as pissed off as I am about all the changes.
Admittedly, I liked the Ep. III trailer and will go to see it as soon as it comes out... I used to be such a big Star Wars fan and something inside me just won't let me miss it. But I am expecting it to suck.
One note on Ep. II and the acting: I have heard that the actors were all very upset because Lucas gave them no direction whatsoever -- he was far more interested in the special effects and such. When you're dealing with young, inexperienced actors and also a lot of CGI/special effects, good direction is critical. So I think perhaps Hayden and Natalie aren't half as bad as they seemed in Ep. II... maybe Lucas will have learned from his mistake this time, or perhaps Hayden and Natalie will figure out more by themselves because they know they can't rely on Lucas for direction. That's my hope, at least.
Discussing thge retooling of the 'Star Wars' flicks is a slippery slope. On the one hand, one can become frustrated because with each 'new' edition you aren't entirely sure what you are missing (which is why I have two 'Blade Runner' DVDs now - dammit). Moreover, die hard fans go bananas because Papa Lucas keeps futzing with the classics.
And that dear folks IS the other hand. Hell, I love Star Wars as much as the next guy but Van Gogh's Sunflowers it is not. Apples and oranges - I know, I know.
I feel kinda bad for this generation though. When we (and when I mean 'we' I mean 'A New Hope' thru 'Jedi')played Star Wars in the backyard the biggest arguments were over who was cool enough play Han, and what poor schmo was gonna be stuck with Chewie. I can't imagine kids today chomping at the bit to be Anakin or (shudder) Jar Jar.
