Apparently, they really filmed the entire movie in Rochester, NY.



Unless they release this in January or February (read: movie graveyard), I see this doing directly to DVD. However, I emplore that you seek it out, if - for no other reason - you can appreciate me for growing up in such a stark and dank city.

The first song in the Trailer is from the Batman Begins soundtrack.......speaking of Batman......today I went to an amusement park and I wore my Batman T-shirt and I played a basketball toss game and i won....thank you thank you...yes I know I got me some skillz..........I won a Batman Basketball..............so I think I kind of looked a batman lover all day......which is cool.

Man, I grew up near there... did this really happen?

M.D. I always thought you were from Buffalo. 

I believe the trailer said "based on a true story" which as we all know means license to really change a story around so that it almost bears no resemblance to the actual events that it is said to be based on.   

I couldn't find anything in the crime library about double initial murders and most of the murders in Rochester I found in my search seem to be prostitutes, not schoolgirls. I'll keep looking though.

Would have been more interesting without the over done Matrix-style music at the end.

I called my Mom about this - evidently there were 2(!) serial killers in Rochester in the past 30 years. The first, this 'Alphabet Killer' popped up in mid to late 70s - and evidently caused this 'Summer of Sam' hysteria. That is, whereas the San Fransico killer preyed on blondes (and consequently a lot of women dyed thier hair accordingly), the Rochester killer preyed on young girls (and I guess a lot of parents wouldn't let them play outside and so forth without extreme supervision).

The other Rochester killer was about 15 or so years ago named Arthur Shawcross (I think his victims were in fact prostitutes). And that wacko was stright outta a bad B-movie. Split-personality, abusive childhood, neighbors didn't suspect a thing, etc...

Every time I read or hear about serial killers I think about how much I want them to die very very painful deaths.  I do not know if there is an after life.  Therefore I cannot be assured that these depraved individuals will pay for their crimes in an after life.  I want their deaths to be ten times more painful than anything they did to their victims. 

In particular I feel that the ones that hurt children should not have the benefit of a relatively swift and painless death by lethal injection.  I think they should be slowly, painfully tortured to death.  I believe their every living moment until they die should be Hell on earth. 

I realize that this could never be the case in a civilized society.  It seems that if we were to give in to the most base of our emotions in these situations we would be no better than the serial killer himself . . . or would we?  Can these types of  people feel emotions as normal people do?  It's highly unrealistic to say we should torture them so that they can make amends for their crimes . . . but it is the raw emotion I feel when I read about a Dahmer or Bundy. 

I say instead of killing them or putting them up in a crappy motel aka Jail. We subject them to a life time of servitude. In fact I think we have a whole huge workforce that's not being utilized, prisoners, people on unemployement and/or welfare. I mean we are paying them or giving them free room an board anyway, why not get some work out of them.

I think that hard criminals, such as serial murderers, should be put in solitary confinement, as in no human contact whatsoever. Being shut off from absolutely everything causes people to deteriorate pretty quickly. It wouldn't be a huge cost as they wouldn't survive that long. However, there is the question of faulty imprisonment. I'd hate for some innocent person to have to go through that.

Humans are by nature imperfect.  Mistakes undoubtedly are made in judging capital cases.  If we conceed that people will make errors in judging capital cases it stands to reason that they will make errors in judging non-capital cases as well.  If verdicts in these cases are wrong obviously many many other types of cases have been judged incorrectly.  There is no such thing however as an unbiased computer program bereft of human input that can make 100% accurate judgements in all cases.  Yet one does not hear of anti-death penalty folks railing against the injustice of people who have lost their cases in divorce court. 

The criminal justice system is not perfect.  This is not news to anyone.  If an error can be made in a capital case, it can be made in a divorce court proceeding, or when someone is suing in small claims court for $100.  Heck, I think Judge Judy is full of shit at least 20% of the time.  

If the convicted person feels that an error has been made he should be able to appeal a verdict.  Such is usually the case in capital punishment cases.  How long did it take to put down an animal like John Wayne Gacy??  He was on death row for 14 years before he got what was coming to him.  I won't lose sleep over the fact that he was able to avail himself of lawyers who defended him to the hilt & filed appeal after appeal to keep him alive.  He got the full benefit of the system.  He certainly enjoyed many more additional years lived than his victims.  He denied them their right to exist yet he was afforded the benefit of the doubt, and lived at tax payers expense in prison for years before being eradicated.    

There are some high profile cases of people having gone to jail for crimes they did not do.  In particular cases come to light that are solved by D.N.A. testing. They are not the rule though.  They are the exception.  Serial killers are exceptional.  They do things so beyond the pale of humanity, so sickening, so absolutely despicable that they don't deserve to live.  Some want to get rid of the death penalty because of these exceptional cases.  I say keep it because of exceptional cases.  The Green River killer'll probably get life in prison with no hope of parole in exchange for telling investigators where he buried some of the bodies of his victims.  Truth is that bastard should fry in the electric chair.  If anyone has it coming he does.  The evidence against him is overwhelming, yet we should allow him to live out the rest of his life because D.N.A. exonerated a guy in jail for a rape?  The two situations are different.