IronMan 2 was out in May and thou it was good, I am talking about quality blockbusters. Twilight, are you kidding me. That lasted 3 weeks. Shrek 4 was a disaster. Inception maybe. Toy Story 3 was great. But not a must see.
In your first post, I thought you were separating quality and financial "blockbuster" flicks. Quality I'll agree that there have been few (but that's just summer to me) but financially it's been pretty sound.
Yah summer was definitely weak. Inception coming thru was a big deal but other than that-- no surprises at all. But one movie I didn't review (sorry lazy!!!) was Exit Through the Gift Shop-- look for it when it comes out on dvd...
Just saw 'The kids are all right' last week end. I thought it was pretty good. Dunno if I'd call it a comedy, but there were a few very funny scenes. Writing, direction and acting were all very good as well.
I have a feeling that the other guys is going to tank hard, I mean I saw grown ups and I didn't like it that much 6 out of 10 and I saw dinner for shmucks whatever 5.5 out of 10.
My stand out films so far
Iron Man 2
I don't remember anything else. I hate it when I can't remember if I've seen a movie or not. I think i've seen every attempted blockbuster this season and it hurts, it hurts because they were 12.50 each.
Did you go and see the production budget for The Grown Ups, it was 80 million dollars. and so far they've only made world wide about 171 million. This movie barely made any money so far, in order for a film to make money it has make what they spent on it 3 times. And it was just 80 million dollars for the production budget I wonder how much their marketing budget was? I'm pretty sure they have take in around 300 million for it to be a success and it's no where near that.
I bet you wouldn't even pay 6 dollars to go and rent it when it comes out.
When I compared the movies, I meant that they all had the same vibe. Crap.
The box office number we see in the news is usually the gross revenue from tickets sold to the film in the United States. Only a percentage of that is paid to the studio releasing it. The total the studio receives is called the theatrical film rental, and its subject to negotiation and takes myriad factors into account, including the buzz surrounding the movie. A major studio is usually paid between 40 and 45 percent of the box office. For a hit, that rate may climb as high as 55 percent. An independent distributor may receive as little as 33 percent. And the percentage usually decreases the longer the film plays in theatres.
What about all the revenue from those $10 bags of popcorn and $8 gummy bears? One hundred percent of that goes to the theatres. Sorry, Warner Bros. 1994 was the first year that foreign theatrical revenue was actually greater than domestic theatrical revenue. These days its not uncommon for a film to generate more money overseas than in the U.S. Studios utilize foreign subsidiaries or subdistributors to distribute their films in other countries, and because of this middleman, the studio often receives a smaller percentage of the gross from foreign theatrical distribution than from domestic.
I know you copied and pasted. What is the source of that.
Just think about your logic here. By your standard, almost no movie makes money, ever. There are almost no movies that, with an 80 million dollar budget (modest anymore) take in 300 million bucks. How does that math work for you? By that logic, there are going to be 10 or so movies that make a cent this year.
Grown Ups took in a sizable chunk of change. You are nuts if you don't think Sony is making a decent profit out of this. None of what you're saying adds up. Let's keep with Grown Ups and look at Adam Sandler. Using your own little mathematical formula, I went back and looked back at every Adam Sandler movie on boxofficemojo.com from 2000-present. Not one of his movies have made triple it's budget in the last decade, but the guys keeps cranking them out. Do you really think the guy could not turn out a SINGLE profitable movie in the last ten years and still be one of our highest paid actors?
There are way more hands in a movie than just the distributor. People are getting paid, I promise. And once the theatrical run is out, we go to DVD, which is where they are basically printing money. I remember reading once that there is, on average, a dollar's worth of product within any given DVD.
Also, found this which was interesting:
"Most of the money that a theatre takes in from ticket sales goes back to the movie studio. The studio leases a movie to your local theater for a set period of time. In the first couple of weeks the film shows in the theatre, the theatre itself only gets to keep about 20% 25% of the green. That means, if you showed up to watch Bridget Jones Diary on opening night, then of the $12 you put out for a ticket, the movie theatre only got to keep between $2.40 and $3.00 of it.
Thats not a lot of money, especially when you think about how much bigger and elaborate theatres are these days. Its not cheap running one of these places. It can get even worse. This percentage will vary from movie to movie depending on the specifics of the individual leasing deal. For instance, 2 movie theatre managers told me that for Star Wars Episode
II: Attack of the Clones, the studio took 100% of the box office take for the first week of release. Can you imagine that? They had to over staff and have above normal capacity flood into their theatres and they got to keep $0.00 from the ticket sales. "
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My topic was posted, because I am a regular movie lover. I enjoy a great fun movie, and with having a child a kids movie. This summer just leaves me with a void, nothing had jumped out and yelled "Go see me" except a very few movies.
That is what I meant by "Is that it Hollywood"
I could care less how much it makes. Entertain me.
Thats all I ask. Make me leave saying that was fun, that was great, or even wow I want to see that again.
This summer is just blah. To me it is the summer of I will wait for the DVD/Blue Ray.
For me the term block buster always referred to the promotion of the movie, the hype of the movie and above all else the profitability of the movie.
This battle of the Beans with a little Sarah added in, may have run its course, but if Cbean's original intent was just to say that he was disappointed with the movies this summer I can see where he's coming from. That was, of course, before I saw Inception. I really liked it and if I had seen Iron Man 2 I'm guessing I would have liked that as well. I don't see as many movies in theaters as a lot of you guys on the board so I'm happy seeing one really good movie in the theaters per season. The TTG solution for being disappointed with crappy hollywood movies is to lower your expectations, not necessarily in quality of movie but in quantity of quality movies. Of course I understand how some of us don't have that luxury.
I really wanted to use the term 'Battle of the Beans'...
This message has been edited by thatturkishguy on Aug 8, 2010 3:13 AM
Who is battling. I thought we were having a discussion about the summer movies. Dante is an educated experienced movie expert, and I am a movie patron who has enjoyed movies for 40 years now.
2010 just seems off to me.
OMG just read that 3D movies in full gear for the 2011 movie season.
Movie theatres don't make money on movies. They make money on concessions. Thats their bread and butter. Ever wonder why you have theatre complexes with 24 screens instead of 8? Because theatre owners realized that 24 theatres full of people can be served by 1 concession stand just as easily as 8. 10 bucks for popcorn/hotdogs/pretzels and pop. The margins are huge. They don't care about how much a film makes, as long as it brings people to the FOOD.