and it sucks so bad.
Religion, fascism or socialism are all philosopphies which encorage man to work for others while capiatslism is a philisophy which encourages man to work for himself.
choice is urs. Whetehr to opt for biggest killers in history or to opt for biggest wealth generator philosophy.

Spoken like a true uneducated cappie that would not recognize socialism from a taco. Spoken like a cheerleader for something that has exploited millions and spoken spoiled little rich kid with a new pc.

Well, let's not get angry. Precisely how does Capitalism enable us to work for ourselves? Surely that would mean each person has their own company independant of others. In other words, each person would have to first obtain their own food, shelter, clothing etc. Then they would have to find some way to get enough food that they can exchange it for new clothes or a shiny sports car. In other words we would be striving to work for others, that's the way human history has gone because we realise that by working together we can acheive more, it's what distinguishes us from lesser beasts. Socialism, as it's name suggests, is merely taking this concept of co-operation to it's logical conclusion.

The confusing thing is that in a world of technical wonders so many of us feel like slaves to our jobs. The fact is that we are exploited. As society we sell our labour and then buy back what we produce at a higher price, that's where 'profit' comes from. Capitalism does show boundless opportunities, will I be the next Bill Gates? But we can only become that rich by using others. Now, Bill Gates certainly had some ideas that could in principle be argued to have benefitted society. Hence we should agree that he deserves some financial advantage over the people who do the important job of sweeping his floors. For certain people this motivation is important. But as a trained scientist I feel that acclaim, appreciation from those around me is of more motivation to achieve in life. But a socialist system doesn't have to remove such financial incentives. It would, however, regulate them to reasonable levels, a bigger house, early retirement or something similar. Even Bill Gates has tacitly admitted that his wealth is excessive, and would be better spent on those in need. Why didn't this just happen from the start?

No, socialism does not "suck" it just doesen't work on a large scale, it can work on a small scale, in evidence with "kibbutzes," but it couldn't work on a large scale, mainly because of human nature. Humans love power, they crave it. Every now and than you get a rare person who doesen't crave power, and you may be lucky enough to have one of them lead you, but sooner or later someone will come along and take advantage of the system, (as shown Stalin and Mao,) and people WILL suffer. Not only that, many people don't agree with socialism and what happens to one born into such a society, most of you here have been born into a democratic/capitalist society, which you feel trapped in and you see as evil. I assure you there are those that are born into a socialist society that see it as evil. This doesen't mean they are evil as a ot of you say all democratic capitalists are, they just don't agree with the system, if you look closely you will see that they are very much like you, they feel trapped by their current political system, its just that you live in different worlds.

I'll say it again, socialism doesen't suck, it just doesen't work.

What planet do you come from?!!!!!! Would you rather live like me in a dingy terrice house and be cold in the winter? Pay £1000 council tax to live? Depend on benefit perhaps?

Capitalism isn't a philosophy, it is a condition. A capitalist isn't a philosopher, he is an exploiter, of other peoples labour. I am pretty sure that the early capitalists, you know the ones that were sailing those slave ships and exploiting child labour, and still are, were not au fait with the word. As for capitalism encouraging people to work for themselves, I think you are being silly now. If that were true why are the small businesses in my town closing down because of big multinational companies taking away their business.
Just to finish, the capitalist system has killed many more people than communism, or even fascism (which by the way, is a pro capitalist tendency).

But there are many brands of socialism.

I was born into a socialist government., in the 50s, we had a lovely council house and my dad always had work. we were free to do whatever we wanted to do . I had free schooling, free school milk every day. If Dad was sick , he got sick pay and we had a lovely family life with no major reversals, they just did not happen.

I believe that eveyone helping out is great. I dont think that very poor and very rich is good, but i feel that enough to eat and a nice home is great and if more people can have that , it would be great. Socilaism is the way that can happen.Not dog eating dog but the community thinking about everyone else.

Very christian in my view