It is apparent to me, with the ever increasing human population, and the ever increasing demands for energy that a solution combining the two is required.

I propose a technology where power will be generated from turds. It will never run out, and it is an increasing problem to dispose off. Because it smells like ****, some people might be a bit put-off, but it is obvious to me.

We mix the ****, piss and some gas together and stick it in your car. I have been running my car on this mixture for over 15 years, and it really works. There are a couple of small modifications to your engine, and thats it.

Anyone want to buy the technology? I am looking for $1 billion for the patent and rights.

Is this for real

Whoever put this stupid nonsense on this website has some answering to do to me!

My stupid daughter read this crap on this website and proceeded to fill the gas tank of my car with piss and ****. Well, I get driving away from the house and get on the free-way when the car breaks down in rush-hour traffic (LA area) in the outer lane, and causes traffic jams that were felt throughout the city for hours afterwards.

I had to get towed, then get my car taken into the Mercedes dealership, where they determined that there was some kind of blockage in the fuel system. When they disconnected the fuel line at the tank, rancid sewage flowed all over their floor! At first we thought it was sabotage, but later my daughter confessed that she had done this after reading it here on this site.

I want to know the identity of the ****ing idiot that put this on here. My repair bill for the Mercedes is over $12,000 as I had to replace the motor, and entire fuel system. So if you know who it is, or can help me in identifying them, I want to know NOW! Because they are going to be paying for the repairs!!!!!

Maybe it is because you are living in a city in an industrial society.

Move to the country and take on menial farm work. Life will be much easier and you will have no stress.

Remember the world is going to end in 20 years, no matter what.

This is exactly what I want to do.

Answer to New York state zoo's power needs may be right under their nose

By William Kates
ASSOCIATED PRESS
10:59 p.m. May 2, 2005

SYRACUSE, N.Y. – The Rosamond Gifford Zoo is looking to become the first zoo in the nation to be powered by its own animal waste – particularly the prodigious piles produced by its pachyderms.

The zoo – world prominent for its Asian elephant breeding program – is studying how feasible it would be to switch to animal waste as an alternative energy source to reduce its $400,000 annual heating and electricity bill.

The zoo's six elephants produce more than 1,000 pounds of dung per day, said Zoo Director Anne Baker.

"Zoos are about conservation and stemming the loss of animals and habitat," Baker said. "But conservation also is about how people use natural resources. This is an opportunity to give visitors the whole picture."

The zoo sends most of its animal waste to a local farm, where it is composted. The zoo spends about $10,000 a year on animal-waste disposal, but Baker noted it also requires the use of additional fossil fuels for transportation.

"This would be just such a good idea on so many levels," she said.

Although other zoos have come up with creative ways to reuse their elephant manure – including using it to make stationery – Rosamond Gifford appears to be the first to propose using it for power, according to Jane Ballentine, a spokeswoman for the American Zoo and Aquarium Association.

Baker said the idea of using animal waste for energy first arose several years ago when she was talking to local officials about the potential for creating a more environmentally friendly and self-sustaining zoo.

Because the elephants eat mostly hay, they are the ideal waste producers for the project, Baker said. Additionally, they are inefficient digesters, which makes their feces higher in energy content, she said.

The zoo also will look at using the manure from its domestic farm animals, its other hoof stock, such as its bison and caribou, and even its lions and tigers, she said. Depending on the process, the zoo animal waste could be used to produce methane or hydrogen for powering a fuel cell or generator.

In the United States, a number of farms have used animal waste to produce power, so the technology is available to apply at the zoo, said John Fox of Homeland Energy Resources Development, a New York City-based renewable energy developer assisting with the study.

But there are questions to be answered to know whether it can be worthwhile, he said.

The study will start by evaluating the energy-producing potential of all the animals' dung. Another important question, said Fox, is determining just how much animal waste the zoo produces.

"We mix the ****, piss and some gas together and stick it in your car. I have been running my car on this mixture for over 15 years, and it really works. There are a couple of small modifications to your engine, and thats it."

Not to mention some modifications to the interior of the car as well. It must have been difficult installing toilets in the place of those useless car seats. Good luck with your crap-mobile, Edison!

This process really works. I am currently in discussions with GM to sell them the technology for over 1 Billion dollars.

I think the problem that the Mercedes owner had, is that the European cars are much less tolerant of crap, so it sometimes plugs the injectors.

I believe that within 12 months, a modification will be avaiable to allow any vehicle on earth to run on a mixture of **** and ****. We are currently looking for names for our technology and would be interested to hear of any suggestions form the environmental community.

This process really works. I am currently in discussions with GM to sell them the technology for over 1 Billion dollars.

I think the problem that the Mercedes owner had, is that the European cars are much less tolerant of crap, so it sometimes plugs the injectors.

I believe that within 12 months, a modification will be avaiable to allow any vehicle on earth to run on a mixture of **** and ****. We are currently looking for names for our technology and would be interested to hear of any suggestions form the environmental community.

Ralphie! is that you who came up with the $hitty fuel? This idea is certainly up there with your wooden and now hemp planets

Many contemporaries didn't take Einstein seriously either.

My turd fuelled vehicle is one of my more brilliant ideas!

The answer to all energy needs is to first of all acknowledge that the world is heavily populated and will never stop populating, and thus we should replace artificial energy such as electricity and gasoline with man-power. And farming with simple tools and hands instead of machinery which requires so much money, energy, and pollution.

And you my friend shall be the first to work in the fields, this is a very good attitude and initiative you are showing.

Send us the address of your commune and we will be round to take care of you.

Olag Onanistov

Harnessing the Power of Poop
By Karen Miller
Science.NASA.gov
posted: 06:30 am ET
19 May 2004


On a two-year trip to Mars, according to one estimate, a crew of six humans will generate more than six tons of solid organic waste--much of it feces. So what do you do with all that?

Right now, astronaut waste gets shipped back to Earth. But for long-term exploration, you'd want to recycle it, because it holds resources that astronauts will need. It will provide pure drinking water. It will provide fertilizer. And, with the help of a recently discovered microbe, it will also provide electricity.

Like many bacteria, this one, a member of the Geobacteraceae family, feeds on, and can decompose, organic material. Geobacter microbes were first discovered in the muck of the Potomac River in 1987; they like to live in places where there's no oxygen and plenty of iron. They also have the unexpected ability to move electrons into metal. That means that under the right conditions, Geobacter microbes can both process waste and generate electricity.

The "right conditions" might be found in a new type of fuel cell--a membrane microbial fuel cell. This device is currently being developed by a NASA-funded research team led by Dr. Bruce Rittmann, a professor at Northwestern University.

All fuel cells generate electricity by producing and controlling a flow of electrons. Conventional cells, including ones used onboard the space shuttle and in some prototype automobiles, obtain the electrons for their electron flow by pulling them off of hydrogen atoms. In order to do that, these fuel cells must be given a constant supply of hydrogen.

Microbial fuel cells obtain their electrons, instead, from organic waste. The bacteria at the heart of the device feed on the waste, and, as part of their digestive process, they pull electrons from the waste material. Geobacter microbes, as well as a few other types, can be coaxed to deliver these electrons directly to a fuel cell electrode, which conducts them into a circuit -- a wire, for example. As they flow through the circuit, they generate electricity.

Microbial fuel cells are already being experimented with on Earth. For example, one prototype is being used at Pennsylvania State University to generate electricity as it purifies domestic wastewater.

To make this idea practical for space travel, says Rittmann, you have to have "a very efficient, very compact configuration." The fuel cell can't take up much room. To meet this requirement, Rittmann is considering a fuel cell of tightly packed fibers, each one of which will be a fuel cell all by itself.

Each fiber would consist of three layers, like three straws, one inside of another. Each layer corresponds to one of the layers of a fuel cell: the anode (outer), the electrolyte-membrane (middle), and the cathode (inner). A slurry of liquefied waste would be pumped past the outer layers where Geobacter microbes (or other similar bacteria) can grab electrons and move them to the anode, into the circuit, and then to the cathode.

Before any such designs can be put into practice, however, Rittmann and his team must first decipher the exact mechanism by which the bacterium transfers electrons to the electrode. In laboratory tests so far, the transfer rate is too slow. "We need to know how we can make that faster," Rittmann says, "and so generate more power."

He has a couple of ideas about what the holdup might be. "The electron actually has to move from the outer surface of the microbe to the electrode, and it could be that it's limited by physical contact." Even though the bacteria lives attached on the surface of the anode, only a tiny bit of each microbe actually touches the metal, and that may be hindering electron movement.

Another factor is the voltage on the electrode. It has to be high enough to coax the microbes into giving up their electrons. "Microbes move electrons around in order to gain energy. In fact, they only move the electrons when they do gain energy," he explains. What's the best voltage? "That's one of the questions we're trying to answer."

"Let's say, for example, that the total voltage difference between the fuel and the anode is 2 volts. Then the microorganisms, as they give up their electrons, might take 0.5 volts to sustain themselves, leaving 1.5 volts for doing work in the circuit. These are just made-up numbers," says Rittmann, "but they illustrate what we are trying to learn."

The membrane microbial fuel cell is still in the early stages of its development. Yet, if the project succeeds, we may find these devices not only in space, but also in our own homes. After all, astronauts aren't the only ones that produce organic waste.

"You have to treat the wastes anyway," points out Rittmann. "So why not make the process an energy gainer, instead of an energy loser? By producing electricity, microbial fuel cells would make the process of purifying waste streams much more economical."

Moreover, he says, "they change our focus. Microbial fuel cells transform something we think of as undesirable into a resource."

Waste? Maybe not....