Today my dad was telling me about World War I and II, and when he mentioned something about communists, I asked what that was, since I was just curious to hear what he thought it was. He said that everyone get paid the same amount of money which would end poverty, the government controls and owns everything, and that there are no churches and "god is dead." I wanted to say something, but I didn't want him wondering how I knew so much about communism. When I said, "Isn't that a good thing?" (he talked about it as if it were bad) he said "I know, it seems like it's a great idea, doesn't it? But the problem is that there's no motivation to work harder." That's not the exact words, and I might have left some things out, but that's what I remember.

Sorry, I forgot to put my name. The original message was posted by me, someone036.

That seems to be the impression most people have of communism. But the reality is, communists don't want the state to force disbelief in god, just to make sure religious groups don't have an unjustified ammount of power. And on the equal wage thing, what would be the point of having money at all if everyone was paid the same? Everyone would never be paid the same, after many generations however money would cease to exist.
Where everything is owned and run by the state, this is called, 'state capitalism.' Communism is where the people own everything.
You mentioned you didn't want your father to know how you knew so much about communism. My family's kind of intolerant of me being a communist, I don't think my dad knows which is fortunate because he's very intolerant in general. Anyway, one day my mother was kind of freaked out cause I was looking at this forum, she tried not to show it but she was freaked out. And this was just for looking at it, she doesn't know I actually post stuff here.

H&S is correct,many adults have a distorted view on communisim,I know because I'm in my late 40's and believe me, few americans/europeans my age actually understand what real communist doctrine is,many things have caused this dis-informed opinion of most americans/europeans.If you look thru this fourm you'll find posts that cover the topic of true communist beliefs,ideals,and doctrine.I hope the younger generations will study true communist ideals and not be as dis-informed on the subject as older americans/europeans are.

I'm a Bolshevist, and I don't think religion should have ANY power. But my dad doesn't know I'm a communist, I wont tell him because he is so intolerant, but my mom knows I am and likes the idea.

I always minimize windows when I hear one of my parents coming. My mom would freak out just knowing that I talk to strangers online, whether they're communists or not. She's a republican and was raised going to church every day, so I don't think it would be a good idea to tell her I'm a communist and an atheist! :D My dad is a democrat and he doesn't like the idea of communism. I suppose I'll have to tell them some time... but then they might have to tell my grandparents too, just because it would be weird if it was a secret. My grandparents on my mom's side are really conservative- my mom always get forwards from them about how prayer should be put back in school, and lots of "support our troops" forwards. They obviously would hate to hear that their granddaughter is a communist. Ok I'm going on and on about this now lol

I too minimise the browser when I hear someone coming by the way, that's the reason I haven't been on the forum as often these days, there just seems to always be people around at the moment. If anyone else in my house found out I was posting stuff here it'd be ok but they might tell my dad who is completely against any type of progress for humankind. It's very annoying sometimes I give up altogether and wait till everyone's gone to bed, by which time I'm tired myself and can't write as well. I think I might save my money and buy a computer for the internet and have it in my room. My parents also used be intolerant of me being an athiest but they leave me alone now.
By the way, those of you still living with your parents, have you ever had trouble such as this about posting about your political beliefs on the internet?

Someone,

Most people have an internalized view of communism, older folks in particular.
The only way to break through this "head locked in cement" type attitude is with the facts. I've posted an article called "Facts VS Lies" on this forum which you may want to print out or save; I think that it would be a good solid base for you to start off with, the more a person knows about Marx and communism the better off he (or she) will be able to refute the lies about it.
And to you and everyone else that hides thier belief in communism, I say this-
Screw 'em!...tell everyone you're a communist and what you believe in. I used to be the same way and it was like I was suffocating, finally I took what Marx said to heart and put it into practice, "Communists disdain to conceal their views".

Everyone one who knows me at work and school knows that I'm a Marxist, I make know bones about it! I proudly and loudly proclaim it, I fly a red flag on my house, I have a red communist car flag on my car and I all ways have a backpack full of information with me to hand out to people. And I can tell you this, I have won many, many people over to our side by doing what I have done. Just like with this site (or any other site) I use my real name, and I'm not afraid, ashamed or embarrassed to do so.

I hope this helps you and, if you need any further assistance on this topic please feel free to E-mail me any time.


Thanks and take care!!!!!
Christopher Henry
St. Louis, Mo.

I don't have any shame either, when I went to school I had hammer and sickles drawn all over my school bag. They were badly drawn so they looked more like spiders, but anyway.
My family knows I'm a communist, I'm not sure if my father knows or not but it'd be better if he didn't know I post stuff here, the rest of the family I'd say would be fine with it but they might tell him. It's easier to tell people who don't live with you but if you're in the same house as them it's a different story. And believe me my dad will never be converted so what does it matter?
Be careful giving out certain information about yourself, cause believe me some of the people on these forums are lunatics, you should see some of the stuff on Democrat DF for example. Certainly don't tell them your address. I don't use my real name cos I think this one sounds cool, my real name's Colm by the way.
In the short time I've been a communist I've heard some fairly terrible arguments. One person says to me, 'Communism doesn't work,' I asked why, and they said, 'It just doesn't.' Oh wait, this isn't an argument at all. One other person said to me he likes capitalism because he can look down on people. I've managed to convince a few people that communism isn't just a dictatorship where everyone is paid the same, but I dunno if I've convinced anyone that communism is the way to go.
I've been a communist for only slightly more than a year, I hope in time I'll learn the skill of argument better and convert a few people.

I agree with C.Henry,he has a good post on facts about communisim that everyone should check out."Facts vs Lies"----Most older americans/europeans believe these myths about communisim.


Most people have an internalized view of communism, older folks in particular.
The only way to break through this "head locked in cement" type attitude is with the facts. I've posted an article called "Facts VS Lies" on this forum which you may want to print out or save; I think that it would be a good solid base for you to start off with, the more a person knows about Marx and communism the better off he (or she) will be able to refute the lies about it.

I have to do that too! I think I might be addicted to the internet if that's possible! lol :D How old are you by the way?

I'm also kind of addicted to the internet. I'm 19.

I am not embarrassed or ashamed of being a communist. I just don't feel like having that conversation with my parents lol. that sounds so lame but it's true. And same with me being an atheist. I will have to tell them when they mention confirmation. I don't know if you think I'm in college or if you know that I'm still 14, but when I tell my parents I'm a communist and an atheist, I'll still have to live with them for the next 4 or more years.

I did read that article you posted "Lies vs Facts." It was probably one of the best, most convincing things I have read. I was the one that gave it five stars lol :D I plan to post the site on freeconservatives.com. They'll probably fire back with unreasonable comments, but hopefully it will provoke some thought. I'll tell them I didn't write it. Did you write it or did you find it somewhere?

replying to two posts at once here:
HAHA that reminds me of when I asked someone why they like Bush, and they said, "Because he's cool."

Do you go on any other forums? I'm only 14. So if I tell my parents I'm a communist and atheist, I still have to live with them for a while lol

Yes I do go to other forums, Democrat DF is the other forum I go to. A word of warning, there's some fairly abusive die hard capitalists on Democrat DF. A word of advice, if someone starts verbally attacking you, simply ignore them, I could have saved myself a lot of grief if I'd realised this was the proper course of action to take sooner. It is not a sign of weakness, but a sign that they aren't worthy of being dignified with an answer. Someone who has to resort to these tactics is too dumb to understand politics anyway and hence unlikely to be converted.
I'm also moderator at another Communist Forum: http://www.network54.com/Index/29168
I became an athiest at about 13, my parents initially forced me to go to mass but I put up such resistance that they eventually left me alone. I know how humiliating it is to be forced into a church against your will so maybe it might be better to tell them and try to gain their understanding. In the end my mother's respect for her son overcame her prejudices.
Yeah the, 'I like Bush because he's cool,' thing is fairly dumb. It's like the way Clinton and Kennedy were voted on for their appearance.
My father has heard me make anti-capitalist statements, but he leaves me alone because he thinks everything is, 'just a phase.' You know, the idea that socialism or any kind of independant thought is just a youth related disorder that will be corrected by ageing. But I dunno what would happen if he realised I was serious about my politics.

No one should be afraid to speak up about their beliefes. People who do are fighters, and deserve long full lives.

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Fairy Tales are important, not because they teach us dragons are real, but because they teach us dragons can be defeated.

For the first few months I was an athiest I kept it a secret from most people, and let me tell you, it felt like I was being suffocated. It was immense relief to tell people what I was despite the verbal abuse, and I resolved never to allow my individuality to be stifled like this again.