I am going to try to rebiuld the Comintern (I know it sounds stupid, but it's worth a try) and in order to do that I need everyone to contact any Leninist, Maioist, or
Stalinist political movements in your nation and invite them in. The goal is to headquater the Comintern on the internet, and elect a world-wide communist "central command" annualy, thus rebiulding the Comintern.

Why? you may ask. It is CRITICAL to re-establish the Comintern because otherwise the communist movements of the world will remain un-orgonized and incapable of
doing anything serious, never mind make a revloution.

(future)BRANCHES OF THE COMINTERN:

International Red Aid: This orgonization is a miltia group of volunters to aid strugling revloutions abrod.

Red Workers Union Network: This orgonization is a network of communist controled workers unions around the globe.

Communist Youth Orgonization: This orgonization is the official international orgonization for communist youth,
this will be created by merging communist youth orgonizations by nation.

Red Farmers Union: This orgonization is a network of communist controled farmers unions around the globe.


So all YOU have to do is invite every Leninst, Maioist, and Stalinist movement to come to this fourm nad register their party name as their 'posting name', and we can pick up from there.

Spelling error 'nad' should be and (near the end of the post.

Firslty, Bolshevism, as I thought everyone knew, was bad. In Russia they had two newspapers, The News and The Truth. The Russians used to say, "Theres no truth in The News and no news in The Truth." and also "We pretended to work and they pretended to pay us." Why would you want them back?

There are bits and pieces of former Commintern around, namely the nations of China, Cuba, North Korea, and Vietnam. They disbanded the old alliance however because it would frighten the west, whom they are busy cozying up to. Underground movements in back alleys, such as the Red Mafia, and F.A.R.C. commit crimes officialy now, and not just under the guise of a government. Bringing them back is against communist, and just about everyones interests.

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Who said I was talking about 'bolshevisim', and anyway I was talking about uniteing the worlds communist parties
not 'the red mafia' or 'FARC'.

I would comment, however, being the gentleman I am prevents me from using such language in whats supposed to be an intellectual environment.

Christopher Henry

I don't understand, what do you mean.

He agrees with me more than I do.

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Chris is against Leninism, Maoism and Stalinism I presume that's what he was talking about.

'regular'Marxists are invited to.

Remember, without the Comintern the communist movements will remain un-orgonized!

Yes but, wouldn't make sense to use a new name? Were doing the same thing, but were not going to call it the Axis.

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The Axis was a military alliance, the Comintern was a political alliance.

They were the same. The Axis was coined by Mussolini in 1936, long before war. It was an official alliance, which was both political and millitary, just like the commintern. All aliances in the end must be both political and millitary.

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David Frum's famous Axis of Evil is supposed to be the supposed "terrorist" countries/the broader middle east? What Bush has done with his wonderful clear-cut good and evil boundaries is an end to real diplomacy. If you say that certain countries are good, and that these certain other ones are evil, then you are basically saying that those peoples in those other countries are somehow not a part of God's crusade or whatever you want to call it. But I guess that's OK, bush built a real strong alliance...let's see now :
Iceland - No army , fairly strong economy
Romania - No real military strength, no money
Afghanistan - Our army, no money, no economy
Poland - Small army (I'm told) , next to no money though growing economy
Britain - Not much of an army , economy in disaster
Japan - the only real ally.

We're doing well , I guess. 100,000 iraqi civilians dead... sure we're promoting freedom and democracy.

Lilly

I agree. I don't like either Korea or Iran, but it gives me such savage pleasure to see Bush defied like this. Hes trying to coral his enemies into the pit, but their just saying, you can't tell us what to do without weapons when you just orderd a new supply of them yourselves. In your face you d u m b a s s!

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I applaud your valiant effort to rebuild the Commodeintern.

What are u talking about? that organisation was setup during the stalinist years of the soviet union, None in that alliance were communists none, two wrongs do not make a right! if u want to create something good that could link groups together make it! but dont use that word to name it.
Lily: now i can see that where u got your info from frenheit 9/11 but i think u will find that britain has an army and the economy isn't in disaster what a load of crap P.S I hate michael moore just because he is a bush basher doesn't make him good.

Rebuiild your life you fool because communism doesnt work

Welcome back Carpe, haven't seen you in a while.
Yeah I agree, that organisation would have had more to do with Stalinism than communism. I don't think it would ever have been about real communism.
By the way my ideology has changed slightly, I still believe pretty much everything I believed before but I no longer believe Lenin was a true communist.
I've read 'Stupid White Men,' and seen, 'Fareingheight 911,' but these days I'm losing respect for Mr. Moore. I dunno if it was always the case, but these days he seems more interested in staying in touch with the average American than in saying the truth, so when I opened up, 'Dude, Where's My Country,', I encountered the following ridiculous statement, it's from memory so probably a bit wrong:

'Mumia probably did it, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be entitled to a fair trial. We on the left are so sad to see anyone die that we forget they might be guilty. But the fact that he's probably a murderer doesn't change the fact that he's a great writer.'

You see? What the hell is this horse sh it?' How can he say a man probably did it when he in the same sentence says he hasn't had a fair trial?
It's clear to see what happened. He's been a supporter of Mumia Abu Jamal for years, but since the right wing is popular in America he decided it was better to be popular than to stand by his principles. So in order to get on the good side of the right he sold out a man who may well be innocent. I think the next paragraph had some ridiculous statement about children not having any right to privacy or something.
As to Bush, well, here in Ireland (is it the same in Britain?) hating Bush is almost like some kind of fashion, it seems people only hate him because it's, 'cool,' to hate him. I've seen people without a shred of political intellect ranting about Bush, in other words parroting the phrases of people who genuinely hate Bush. I might add that there's a bucketload of cash been made off the anti-Bush fashion, I'll go into a book shop and see at least 10 different books dedicated to Bush's verbal blunders.

hammerandsickle I love you and want to fondle your hammer and put you5r sickles in my mouth.

yeah its seems to be like that in britian as well, He's a natural enemy to a group i'm apart of S.W.P but to most he's just some kind who mucks up his words and looks like a stupid penis, Theres no real evidence behind it except for the obivous which is what is on the news. The proble i have with michael moore is that he does write about great stuff but it jus seems to be bush this and bush that now, I think people only like him because he is the most famous bush-basher around.

Not me! I'm being stalked by a psycho.

The bastards-BTK you have my complete support.
Typical communist tactics-face it lads ye lost the cold war and communism isnt coming back

you can laugh now but what you have to remember is: Nothing lasts forever you can say it will and u may even believe it but not one of u has any power to do anything all u can do is hope and probably pray that nothing happens in your lifetime, There's only one way to go and thats down and the sooner that happens the better because then we can rebuild something so much better in its place, Rather then your pathetic "American Dream" I hope u live to see that day boyo's

First of all my name is Lilly not Lily, this is america, we spell it with ll.
Secondly, more importantly, I don't need fahrenheit 9/11 for that. It's kind of obvious and you can get that information anywhere, most of it I get from the UN. I hate Michael Moore and I hate those anti-bush posters because that is what is stopping any kind of unity in the House and Senate. Bills usually pass 30/70 or don't pass at all, and right now , not many are passing.

Lilly

Auctually the Comintern was set up in the Leninist period,
But I understand your worries. Seeing the name "Comintern"
is un-popular, I now change the name to the
'Popular-Front' which invites communists, socialists,
and Anarchists. The goal is to make a brod movement which will invite moer people to it's ranks.

why anarchists? People tend to be anarchists until something really dangerous happens to them. I don't think they are either a large or valuable contribution.

'why anarchists? People tend to be anarchists until something really dangerous happens to them. I don't think they are either a large or valuable contribution.'

Noam Chomsky's an anarchist and his contribution has been quite valuable. In fact Anarchism and Marxism are fairly similar, when I read Chomsky's books I find that I agree with most of what he is saying. The only reason I'm not an anarchist in because I don't think they allow a strong enough apparatus for defending against counter revolutionaries.

people are also really scared of anarchism. In this time you have to be careful what you call something, more than what it is i.e. speaking in a vernacular that almost any american can agree with.

I also like chomsky a lot, i'm reading his America's quest for global dominance.

I've read Profit over People and Understanding Power, Understanding Power's a must read it's a series of lectures he gave. I'll be reading Hegemony or Survival after I've finished the biography of George Orwell.

Georg was pretty smart, but he was also an idiot in thinking that propaganda and lies would work perfectly when used by an oppresser. People still see.

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'Georg was pretty smart, but he was also an idiot in thinking that propaganda and lies would work perfectly when used by an oppresser. People still see.'

People will have to see if they are to adopt communism, so you better be right Justin. 1984's a classic, a frightening vision of authoritarianism gone out of control.

I want to read it, Animal Farm too.

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So I see most of you agree on my 'Popular-Front' deal.

I'm sorry lilly i didn't so much ofence can be caused with one letter maybe i was in hurry, I just wanted to disput that your information about britain was wrong and that i was wondering where the hell you got the info now i know, I only mentioned michael morre because he talked about the alliance in his documentry sorry if i offended thou. I tink thats a better name for an organisation that u describe and Anarchism is quite good but lacks future as its going backwards you hit a wall.

I just looked at what I wrote and I really did make a big deal over nothing in particular. My only futile defense is that I just came back from Chelsea (NY, ny) If you ever went you'll know what I'm talking about.

Thanks anyway for the message.
Lilly

'I want to read it, Animal Farm too.'

I read Animal Farm when I was about 10, at the time I had no idea what it was about! I knew it had to do with politics, but I didn't know to what political situation exactly. It wasn't till years later till I realised what the book was about.
I was genuinely freaked out by some parts of 1984. I remember thinking, if humanity doesn't get itself together this stuff is going to happen.

1984 is a masterpiece in its own right! A brillant novel about how he saw the world, More of a warning then a reality tho, Animal farm is of course based on the russian revolution and how he saw it great representation between bonarparte-Stalin and snowball-trotsky,m He himself a socilaist but saw the ruissian revolution as a betrayal, An appionion i share two brillant books speaking of 1984 it was on channel 4 on monday, I recorded it Score!

'1984 is a masterpiece in its own right! A brillant novel about how he saw the world, More of a warning then a reality tho, Animal farm is of course based on the russian revolution and how he saw it great representation between bonarparte-Stalin and snowball-trotsky,m He himself a socilaist but saw the ruissian revolution as a betrayal, An appionion i share two brillant books speaking of 1984 it was on channel 4 on monday, I recorded it Score!'

I don't know though, who knows what new technologies they'll invent, it mightn't be exactly like 1984, but I dread to think of what happens when science advances dramatically while we're still under capitalism or some other authoritarian system. i don't believe the Russian revolution was betrayed because now I don't really believe it was sincere in the first place.
What annoys me is that some capitalists act as though Orwell was some kind of champion of capitalism. Far from it! He was a socialist and his statements about the Spanish revolution clearly show it. I looked at a neo-con site a while ago and I was annoyed to see a neo-con using quotes from George Orwell. He wasn't a capitalist, deal with it!

I hate to sound like a jerk but please, no thread-jacking.

So here is my idea for the Popular-Front....


Popular Front(USA):

Communist Party USA
Socialist Party USA
Green Party
Social Democratic Party
Socialist Workers Party


P.S: If not in USA please post a list of political partys for your nations Popular-Front.

The state of the socalist parties in England are pretty poor I'm looking into all the different groups and i have joined the S.W.P i'm not sure what there stance would be to organoisation like this.

ThAmEs

"I hate to sound like a jerk but please, no thread-jacking."
I hate to sound like a jerk, but did you read the DNC chairman post ?

Hate to sound like a jerk but I simpily responded after you had already changed the subject.


P.S: How do you create a siginature?

you did ?

I really couldn't tell you how to make a signature. I hate computers , they are malicious and crash when you have written 48 1/2 pages on neutrons like mine did today. So I would try someone else because right now I feel like smashing mine.

Take care,
Lilly

I' not sure if it was YOU who changed the subject, it just looked liked it.

"I' not sure if it was YOU who changed the subject, it just looked liked it."

really, show me how.

You were talking about rebuilding the comintern. It's a good idea. I'd like to join it in fact. I'm myself a communist. However, i'm not sure how to call myself as a maoist, leninist, marxist or stalinist. I'd like to know more about this. My email is germi91@gmail.com

International Communism is a pipedream. The world is made up of different cultures and ethnic groups who will never see completely eye-to-eye; trying to create an International Body of "sameness" will never work because views about socialism and communism will change given each different country.

It does not, however, mean that Communist parties, countries, organizations and revolutionary movements should not share a common alliance and goal; it is one of Socialism's great sad moments that the giant rift between China and the USSR, Vietnam, Cuba and North Korea has occured.

Each is an example of a socialistic ideal that is different from the others; especially in the case of China and the USSR, who's difference almost led to all-out devestating warfare.

I think it all leads back to the fact that Socialism and Communism is vulnerable to corruption; when leaders of these parties focus more on their own power and prestige and the ideology of international support fades. They start to act not with the international movement in mind, but their own aspirations of power and dominance over their own people and others.

In the past the Comintern was "dominated" by the strongest Socialist states; like the USSR and China, and the division created because of this is what led to its downfall. Instead, the Comintern should be an entity much like the UN; where each nation or group, reguardless of their "power", have equal representation; where the ideology of international co-operation should be paramount. It should be a body above the governments of each respective Communist country, where leaders of those countries have no say in what the Comintern does. Like the UN has peacekeeping divisions and international aid divisions, the Comintern should as well. It should be made up of individuals who aspire to the cause of the movement, reguardless of their nationality, and, in essence, should be a truely global, equal forum for Communist nations to settle their differences. Economics should also play a large part, with Communist nations relying on one another for their economies and international trade; "divisional" elements who keep their own personal aspirations over the aspirations of the international movement can be pressured to conform, but not forced to do so.

Unfortunately I must cut this short. Goodbye!

You can't make communism work if you don't even try! It's that kind of thinking that i hate so much. How do you know it won't work now? Have you tried? No, you haven't! Therefore don't sell the boar before you hunt it!

Exactly. Communism WILL NOT work if nobody is willing to FIGHT for it, and it needs to be fought for. Look at the United States' past and how hard it has fought against it. It won't work until its enemies are defeated.

First you think you can be all glorious by providing freedom to the world, even though you have no unison(you remind me of Monty Python's Life of Brian.....

BRIAN:Are you the Judean People's Front?
REG:**** off!
BRIAN:What?
REG:Judean People's Front. We're the People's Front of Judea! Judean People's Front. Cawk.
FRANCIS:Wankers.
BRIAN:Can I... join your group?
REG:No. Piss off.
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REG:Right. You're in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the ****ing Judean People's Front.
P.F.J.:Yeah...
JUDITH:Splitters.
P.F.J.:Splitters...
FRANCIS:And the Judean Popular People's Front.
P.F.J.:Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
LORETTA:And the People's Front of Judea.
P.F.J.:Yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
REG:What?
LORETTA:The People's Front of Judea. Splitters.
REG:We're the People's Front of Judea!
LORETTA:Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
REG:People's Front! C-huh.
FRANCIS:Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
REG:He's over there.

), no real communist state, and no military strength. You can say that Communism existed but it really never has, and to say it has is probably more counterrevolutionary than America ever was. America is more communist then any communist country ever was. It has social security, Medicare, and it does all the public works projects. It really doesnt take adavantage of you, no matter how poor you are. Communism i think is the state giving you the freedom to make yourself, without being stifled by the government.
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I still think republicans are evil.

Rebuilding the comintern? Why?

It was disolved for a reason. It was unable to judge the evolving national situations. It was becomming an obstacle.

Stalin dissolved it. Mao never created a new one.

That model of internationalism just leads to opportunism and ultimately helps revisionism.

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