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December 23 2005 at 9:39 AM
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To the commies...
do some productive work instead of politics.
Why dont u commies open ur factories based on workers powers and try to out do the capitalists.
HEHEHHEHEHE
Why dont u???????
All that the commies do is discussion and strikes and politics.
Why dont they try to outo capitalists in any free country???
Just a curious question from a newbie. Hope u reply.
PS:- Plz dont quote anyone and be original

 
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December 26 2005, 12:59 AM 

<<Why dont u commies open ur factories based on workers powers and try to out do the capitalists. >>


That's exactly what we are trying to do. But, in a much larger scale.

 
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December 26 2005, 1:31 AM 

If you would have read carefully, i meant that opening the factories in capiatlaist countries and competing with them. What you are trying to do is to set up a system in which there would be no competetion. And what i wanted to say was opening a worker based factory and competing with the capitalsits since commies claim that this would be better option. And if it is a better option and if people like to work in commies factories then the capitalists factorries will close by themselves. But no one ever tries to do that. I dunno why.

 
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December 27 2005, 8:55 AM 

Fair question. Well first of all, there are examples of people getting together and opening worker co-operatives, and many of them have been more successful than privately owned buisinesses. However, there are problems.
The first problem of course is getting the funds. So if a few people agree that they will open a worker co-op they will still have to work in a privately owned buisiness for a good stretch of time before they can do so.
Assuming they do successfully open the co-op, there is the 'island of socialism in a sea of capitalism,' problem. There is little chance or a co-op getting investors, because the investor will have no say in the running of the co-op no matter how much money the put into it. And if they do have a bigger say the more money they put in, then it won't be a worker co-operative anymore.
And of course, the co-op will need suppliers of materials, who will probably be capitalist organisations. And what will these suppliers prefer to do, sell to a fellow capitalist buisiness, or to a worker co-op, which, if successful, will endanger the existence of the suppliers? Every successful co-op means that capitalist buisinesses are endangered, because their workers will be more likely to quit and try to start their own co-ops.


 
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December 29 2005, 9:17 AM 

Thats because the working class has nothing but, their labour. Which they are forced to sell.

 
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