This is my fist post on this forum. As such I would like to share my 'unique' socio-economic views and how to install them. While I am resonablely comfortable (lower middle class) I see a discusting amount of poverty and suffering in the world. There are three reasons for this in my opinion. They are: Greed, Conservitism and Fanaticism. The capitalist West, in my opinion, exemplifies all three. In responce to this I am a Communist Marxist. I believe that there should be one country; a dictatorship of the proletariat. A country where everyone is equel and loves one another. This can only happen in a classless society where currency dosen't even exist. I beleive that best way to obtain this is through revolution that is violent in nature. Only then can we truly live in a Utopia.
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Well that's a really nice thought. I too would love to havea world of equality. A world where poverty would not exist, where we could coexist with one another. With no one above anyone else, yet how would you propose such a thing happen. You talk about a violent revolution, but to what end?
Would you create the Soviet Union once more? What kind of structure would you create that you think would realistically lead to a communist society? If you want to make this a world wide situation, what would you offer the powerful countries, would you go to war with everyone? Because surely you do not think you'd organize a worldwide revolution of the poor.
I don't mean to bring you down, but what is it you want to discuss? Is there really a strategy, because if there is, I'm all ears. Or is this simply a lot of back patting on how we are smarter than the Capitalists, yet have yet to win a real battle, not to mention even convince a group large enough to start a revolution.
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``I believe that there should be one country; a dictatorship of the proletariat. A country where everyone is equel and loves one another. This can only happen in a classless society where currency dosen't even exist.``
The Stalinist theory of Revolution in one country will always end in failure a singular country doesnt have the support or resources needed to sustain itself. What we need is an international permanent revolution. Money will exist until the end of the workers state(Socialist state). Money is a tool heavily tax the rich and redistribute equally that way by the end of the socialist state equality is instilled and a Communistic society can begin.
``yet how would you propose such a thing happen. You talk about a violent revolution, but to what end?``
A Revolutionary should be as violent as his resources and support permit him to be.
``Would you create the Soviet Union once more? What kind of structure would you create that you think would realistically lead to a communist society?``
Certainly not the Soviet Union was a bastardization of Marxism. Lenin created an elite vangaurd party to ``lead`` the workers. This is a big mistake he only succeeded in defeating his own goals by creating a class above the proletariat. Thus he made the Soviet revolution a bourgeois revolution not a proletariat one. No one would lad in a Communist society the workers would organize through workers council`s and elect their own leaders who would be recallable at anytime with a simple majority vote.
``If you want to make this a world wide situation, what would you offer the powerful countries, would you go to war with everyone? Because surely you do not think you'd organize a worldwide revolution of the poor.``
Compromise is for the weak they will give up power or the working class will take it from them by revolutionary means. Also you are confusing what the proletariat are the proletariat are not the poor they are the working class. In a revolution you would have the poor working together with the working class which constitutes a clear majority of the worlds population.
``I don't mean to bring you down, but what is it you want to discuss? Is there really a strategy, because if there is, I'm all ears. Or is this simply a lot of back patting on how we are smarter than the Capitalists, yet have yet to win a real battle, not to mention even convince a group large enough to start a revolution.``
Capitalism is degrading ever further all the time all we have to do is wait for an appropriate time to rise up.
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The question that was a asked about how best to carry the revoultion out was a valid one. And i will admit I was very general before. I believe that the way to do this would be gurellia warfare, especially in urban inviorments. I believe that the prolitariate will soon open their eyes. However to unite them they must had someone (or a group) to look to. This doesn't have to be me. I really don't care about power. Also at the same time, we should have politians that agree with our views. This way we destroy Capitalism from both the outside and the inside.
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"The question that was a asked about how best to carry the revoultion out was a valid one. And i will admit I was very general before. I believe that the way to do this would be gurellia warfare, especially in urban inviorments."
Sigh....where to start guerilla warfare only works in large numbers and with ample supplies.
"I believe that the prolitariate will soon open their eyes. However to unite them they must had someone (or a group) to look to."
Rubbish that's nothing more than Leninist vangaurdism that's the whole reason why the bourgeois revolution in Russia failed.
"This doesn't have to be me. I really don't care about power. Also at the same time, we should have politians that agree with our views. This way we destroy Capitalism from both the outside and the inside."
Now your arguing for Reformism which is it are you a revolutionary or a reformist your path seem's to lead to the new labour party have a nice trip.
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The beggining of the labyrint is clear, and it resumes to two words: Soviet Union. I know that the SU was far from communism, but it was much closer than the US is now. The key is rebuild the Soviet Union in a socialist society. Then with the help of local communists we would start a world revolution. The Soviet Union was known to be the stronghold of communism. The Soviet Union is the only one capable of facing the United States in a Nuclear war. Yes, USSR would be our shell and command ops. With the right development it could send shipments of weapons and supplies to the guerrilas as it once did, then when we anounce our bloody communist revolution the worker's class outpowerers the local governement we would have another country anexed to our socialist nation. Other communist countries would join with no problem. Cuba and North Korea would be delighted to join. And when the world is under a socialist rule, we slowly but steadily start changing to a perfect marxist-society.
About the revolution. We would await for the right moment to rise, and that is the worldwide communist call. We could use the help of other communist friendly cultures like the rastafarian. I know that this solutions arent good enough, and they need development, and i count with u on that.
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"Rubbish that's nothing more than Leninist vangaurdism that's the whole reason why the bourgeois revolution in Russia failed."
A revolution should have a party to look up to. A party which can organize the workers into a proper vanguard and army to take power. If this does not happen, the counter-revolution will quickly defeat the revolution. It is a necessary part of the revolution to create a vanguard party.
"Now your arguing for Reformism which is it are you a revolutionary or a reformist your path seem's to lead to the new labour party have a nice trip."
What he means is that if some politicians agree with a violent revolution, it would give more credit to the revolution itself and it would give it support. He does not mention anything aobut reformism in his comment.
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"A revolution should have a party to look up to. A party which can organize the workers into a proper vanguard and army to take power. If this does not happen, the counter-revolution will quickly defeat the revolution. It is a necessary part of the revolution to create a vanguard party."
Sorry but that's only Leninist garbage the proletariat will organize and carry out the revolution themselves. There will never be an elite vangaurd to lead the people Marxist doctrine forbid's it. Any type of Elite body like the one that prevailed in Russia usually leads to abuse of power corruption and the bastardization of Marxist doctrine. The Soviet union at the time of Lenin was nothing more than a degenerated workers state.
Why do you think fellow Comrades from the eastern block countries were forbidden to practice Marxism. They were alllowed only to follow strict Marxism-Leninism.
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violence is a bad way to instill takeover. We have to lement a mass communist rebelion by making people like communist ideas. when the time is right, we will call on every person that wishes to have an equal society to break free of their espective country. Karl Marx indicated that the only way communism could prevail was a mass uprising. I have made lots of my classmates (I am in 7th grade) communist. We need to spread communism like a religion. I did not know there were this many communists since all the adults I know are anti-communist.
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