Alright, I have come among you. I am a leftist. And not just a pretend leftist like a democrat. I'm a super-left greeny Marxist. I'd kind of like to hear the arguements of Bush-heiling reactionaries against the wise ideas of the left, so tell me what's wrong with the ultra-left, and I'll try to enligthen you. And don't talk to me about the democrats, cause they are right-wingers too. See above. So come on, enemies of human spirit and individuality, give it all you got!

So, you say you have 'come among us', whatever that is supposed to mean. You and your kind have been the bane of the West for time immemorial. And just for the record, I am not a 'conservative' in the popular sense of the word. It is a meaningless term and as far as I am concerned you 'Marxists' share more with the neocon movement than the general lemming population realizes. Rather than play an ideological tennis match with you and your ilk, take a nice long smell of the enclosed link.

http://www.jewwatch.com

National Alliance, USA

I fail to see what my Marxist brethren and I have in common with Freedom-hating, neo-con Nazis. Would you be so kind as to support you arguement with reason and examples, eh?

I also fail to see what your racist link has to do with anything.

It does not surprise me that you do not understand the link between your Marxist ideology and the link you obviously did not go through. The origins of your putrid Marxism has manifested itself in Bolshevism and snaked its way into the sixties to infect nearly every aspect of the Old America.

Right from the outset you called me a "nazi"; which is propaganda because, unlike false statements of fact, which can easily be refuted, it relies instead on false or skewed presuppositions -- supposed "facts," forming part of everyone's common knowledge, that lie behind explicit statements while carrying their own unexamined political meanings.

In other words, you are a Marxist lemming.

The "fact" that "nazis" were guilty of unprecedented, demonically sadistic war crimes says nothing explicit about White Americans or White Australians or White Swedes etc., but it carries the unexamined and uncontested political meaning that racial feelings among each are similarly evil and can easily erupt into similar horrors. Those are "truths" that everyone "knows" and no one need demonstrate. including you. Why did I bring up race? Because it is your damnable thinking and legions of Boasian subverters that has nearly brought my country to its knees.

You are guilty of supporting and promoting the single most dangerous ideology ever to scar my country. And apparently your only retort is to call me a "nazi."

Winston Churchill lays out perfectly where insects like you come from: "In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

Feel proud yet?

"The Single most dangerous ideology ever to scar my country"

Why dangerous? Because we communists support an end to the oppression of one class by another? Because we support real democracy instead of the fake democracy of America, where every part of government is in the pocket of the rich? Because we beleive that a worker should get the full return of his work, instead of having part of it stolen by his capitalist master?
Because we beleive in FREEDOM?

Well we certainly plead guilty to all these unspeakable acts against humanity.

P.S. It's my country too.

You are evading the central thrust of my argument, which I have graciously reprinted for you below. Yes, dangerous because you, for one, are clearly in a state of denial when it comes to the history of your 'movement' and the damnable sickness it has imposed on my bretheren in Europe and now here; wherein good racial patriots are rotting in mind-numbing prisons here and abroad for committing no crime other than speaking and writing. Besides, your 'revolution' has indeed won the day. Can you not tell? We have open borders, open homosexuality, feminism, a degraded entertainment culture, abortion on demand, state-run schools which are communist collectivist pens, impossible racial equality, one man one vote wherein the vote of an uninformed boob can override the vote of an astute citizen, hate crimes, thought crimes, the list goes on. All communist in origin.

("Why dangerous? Because we communists support an end to the oppression of one class by another?")

What you call oppression is in reality a natural order wherein all are capable of rising to the top. Capitalism as it is today has become deformed and dangerous. It is a vehicle which distracts our people from issues that need to be up front and is creating a soft dependant aracial population.

("Because we support real democracy instead of the fake democracy of America, where every part of government is in the pocket of the rich?")

Platitudes ad nauseum. Stop worrying about the 'rich' and worry about the aliens. Refer back to the link I originally sent you after you take off the blinders and see who you are "sleeping with."

("Because we beleive that a worker should get the full return of his work, instead of having part of it stolen by his capitalist master?")

Stolen by whom?! Question for you: who do you think forces that 'capitalist master' to deduct those taxes?


("Because we beleive in FREEDOM?')

You mean like the freedoms I listed above? You do not believe in freedom: you believe in state-run anarchy.

("Well we certainly plead guilty to all these unspeakable acts against humanity.")

It is good to know who our enemies are -- even if you are oblivious to what you really think.

("P.S. It's my country too.")

I see....




It does not surprise me that you do not understand the link between your Marxist ideology and the link you obviously did not go through. The origins of your putrid Marxism has manifested itself in Bolshevism and snaked its way into the sixties to infect nearly every aspect of the Old America.

Right from the outset you called me a "nazi"; which is propaganda because, unlike false statements of fact, which can easily be refuted, it relies instead on false or skewed presuppositions -- supposed "facts," forming part of everyone's common knowledge, that lie behind explicit statements while carrying their own unexamined political meanings.

In other words, you are a Marxist lemming.

The "fact" that "nazis" were guilty of unprecedented, demonically sadistic war crimes says nothing explicit about White Americans or White Australians or White Swedes etc., but it carries the unexamined and uncontested political meaning that racial feelings among each are similarly evil and can easily erupt into similar horrors. Those are "truths" that everyone "knows" and no one need demonstrate. including you. Why did I bring up race? Because it is your damnable thinking and legions of Boasian subverters that has nearly brought my country to its knees.

You are guilty of supporting and promoting the single most dangerous ideology ever to scar my country. And apparently your only retort is to call me a "nazi."

Winston Churchill lays out perfectly where insects like you come from: "In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

Feel proud yet?




greentiger

Dangerous? Why?
No score for this post October 12 2003, 5:38 PM

"The Single most dangerous ideology ever to scar my country"

"open feminism", "racial equality", and what's wrong with that?

Don't you think people from every race and gender should have equal oppertunities in voting, education, etc.?

Oh, and go into a slum, find some homeless mother with an infant out on the street who can't stop saying, "I'm hungry". THAT is the "great freedoms of capitalism".

Communsim, on the other hand, would provide real freedom. Everyone could improve personal skills, broaden their intellectual horizons, and have far more time for leasure, freed from any financial worries whatsoever.

And ur crap about borders, are those "aliens" any less human than you? Do they have any less right to live here than you? They aren't hurting anybody.

If a racist like you is the best the capitalist right can cough up in its own defence, than perhaps the transittion to Communism will not be as long and involved as Lenin thought.

("open feminism", "racial equality", and what's wrong with that?)

I should have said militant feminism. You know what that does and what it means. Racial equality is a myth. Equality does not exist in nature and we are not above nature.

(Don't you think people from every race and gender should have equal oppertunities in voting, education, etc.?)

Actually, no. A representative republic, which was on the right track, did not allow it and it worked fine until this communist thing called democracy was introduced into the lexicon of stupidity.

(Oh, and go into a slum, find some homeless mother with an infant out on the street who can't stop saying, "I'm hungry". THAT is the "great freedoms of capitalism".)

A good eugenics program will not let that happen.

(Communsim, on the other hand, would provide real freedom. Everyone could improve personal skills, broaden their intellectual horizons, and have far more time for leasure, freed from any financial worries whatsoever.)

Yes indeed it sure would: From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs.

(And ur crap about borders, are those "aliens" any less human than you?)

Never said that Green Kitten.

(Do they have any less right to live here than you? They aren't hurting anybody.)

They are welcome to sustain any kind of racial and economic nationalism they wish -- in their own country.

(If a racist like you is the best the capitalist right can cough up in its own defence,...)

You have just proven how myopic you are. I am not a representative of the 'capitalist right' and made it clear I was not. I am a nationalist, a racial nationalist and support all races who wish to follow suit.)

(than perhaps the transittion to Communism will not be as long and involved as Lenin thought.)

You have already won, silly Kat. The revolution was a success. Your beef seems to be economic at this point. The redistribution of wealth is wide open as we speak and that ghetto gal you mentioned above probably has a check waiting for her, some of which is mine. Or did you miss that?

Your posts are disjointed and truly pathetic. You drip with an idealism that makes me think of pachouli and dirty feet. You have consistently failed to address my posts directly, rather you reply with self-serving touchy feely pap. If you are the best representative of Lenin's resurgence then I would say we have nothing to worry about.

That "Representative republic" only "worked fine for the white males it "represented". And since they essentailly controlled the oress, you never heard from all the people he enslaved.

Now, for you to practice what you preach. Give us a strong arguement why your absurd "racial nationalism" is good. your idea might make sense to Nietzche or MArquis de Sade, but you shall have to do better to get us to see you for anything but a selfish cross-burning Nazi.

The most valuable human resource is intelligence, and genes are the most important determinant of intelligence.

But modern industrial societies encourage precisely the opposite breeding pattern. Society encourages highly intelligent people to prolong their educations, leading them to delay marriage. And for many—women especially—marriage delayed is marriage denied. When such people complete their education, they often have crushing debts and must work long and irregular hours. Society also promotes selfish, materialistic lifestyles that discourage marriage and reproduction.

Furthermore, highly intelligent people are seldom intelligent enough to reject fashionable but destructive follies. Feminism denigrates marriage and reproduction and sows discord between the sexes. The fear of overpopulation encourages intelligent, responsible, public-spirited people—precisely the type of people who should have large families—to have small families or no families at all. (I accept that there are too many people in the world, but it is foolish to focus on human quantity while ignoring human quality. We need a world with fewer but better people.)

Modern civilization is approaching a crisis. Progress cannot be sustained if present dysgenic trends continue. Stone Age men cannot sustain a Space Age civilization. We have to choose. If we choose continued progress, we must choose eugenics. If we continue on the present dysgenic path, then we can expect the advanced White and Asian societies to falter and then eventually collapse into tyranny, chaos, and starvation—much as African societies collapsed after the civilizing influences of the White colonial powers were withdrawn.

you speak of breeding intelligent individuals. You mean like Albert Einstien, who was Jewish(and, incidentally, a Communist)? OK, you're hatred of Jews is now shot down by reason.

All the races you have put down have had incredibly intelligent idividuals. Eistein, Dubois, George Washington Carver, J. L. Borges, Benito Juarez, I oculd go on a long time.

Racism is and absurd, stupid, and ridiculous beleif. But never fear, when we have established Communism in the USA, we shall help boldly excavate the grave for it and other inane prejudices.

A question for you. Suppose we drug your food and inject a Jew's blood into you while you were unconscious? How would you feel then?

I sincerely hope all your children marry interracially. Serve you right.

And as far as your eugneics bull is concerned, I think education and mental excercises after birth are a far more effective step towards greater intelligence.

And racial breeding has othing to do with intelligence. Science has proved that.

" Albert Einstien, who was Jewish(and, incidentally, a Communist)? OK, you're hatred of Jews is now shot down by reason."

Vast majority of Jews in Europe has no relation with actual Semites but in effect represent semitized (culturally only) European population.


Racial Classification: A.Einstein can be classified as Alpine type with Med influence (a combination very present in Greece and Italy and not at all among the purest Semites such as Arabians).

" All the races you have put down have had incredibly intelligent idividuals."

Such Nonwhites are either mixed with whites or can be oriental (only associated with pacific east Asia) . Dravidians and Negroids have been left behind by evolution when it come to intellect and their history achievements are a testament to that.

" Eistein, Dubois, George Washington Carver, J. L. Borges, Benito Juarez, I oculd go on a long time."


Racial Classification: Dubois is in effect mainly Caucasoid slightly altered by Negroid admixture (his intellect is without any doubt influence from the white side, it is interesting to note that 3/4 of all American blacks are mixed with whites and at liest half of these blacks are even fully black at all but are in effect mulatto -- mixed black and mixed white) .


this is also mainly a Alpine-Med cross associated with Greco-Roman world thus with Europe.


Juarez is of Mestizo race (Mixture of oriental Amerindians and whites) as is most of Mexico. Am. Indians are another primitive population which produced only couple of (relatively recent) higher civilizations in southern Mexico i ande region and races here are clearly influenced by some ancient Med. influence and are even positioned in the closest points to the Med. region (while showing some mestizo features from the beginning).

I was going to decimate your silly little commentary yet again when I noticed someone else literally handed you your arse. See? You are nothing. There is no viable argument to racial nationalism and hard science. Now please take a moment to read the enclosed link; then go listen to your Culture Club records and commit suicide. Thank you.

http://members.aol.com/tsaukki/whiteamr.htm

Ah, but you forget something.

"his intellect is without any doubt influence from the white side"

How do you prove that? You see, you have no concrete proof that race has anyting to do with intelligence, DO YOU?

As far as the fact of slower development in Africa, North America, South America, etc., how do you know it was in fact slower development? How do you know that, in the centuries of isolation from Europe, there was not some cataclysmic event that shattered civilisation? Like a huge war or something?

Oh, and in some cases it was the result of having no real wish to develop technology. Analyze, if you will, the tribal cultures of North America. There is little importance put on industrial progress because they are more interested in enjoyment of life, spirituality, and honor. Similar things are true of the other areas mentioned. It is the European Imperialist, who, noot because of an interest in progress but because of his need of better weapons to conquer and better industrial machines to make more profit faster, that has placed such an importance on this.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's wrong to invent new things and to develop technology, I am just expalining to you why race has nothing to do with intelligence.

Nicholas, a question for you, out of curiousity.

How do you feel about violent acts of hate being carried out against the groups you think yourself better than, like the Ku Klux Klan and th Holocaust?

We have not races so much as we have individuals.

Your posts no longer interest me. You are boring and I can almost tell you what you are about to say before you open your mouth. Therefore, I will no longer respond to your brainless, mealy-mouthed, misguided little probes. You are a disgraceful and utterly an irresponsible poor excuse for a white man, if indeed you are. However, I will leave you with a few links. Unfortunately, a few of them have to be READ; you know scanned with the eyes,internalized and processed.

Looking back at your posts, you keep mentioning "workers." That is just a word to you. It means nothing. The workers I am in the company of everyday would remove your pointed head and hand it to you if you tried to run your red nonsense past them. I, on the other hand, have had a rapt audience with my views in the company of "workers" because it resonates on an intuitive level; whereas your point of view is seen for what is: hippy-pinko-commie-hillside-singer-baloney based in fathomless idealism. I have met your kind before...My parting words to you are this: We know why people like you exist. We know who is responsible. And It's Coming...

http://www.michaeljpolignano.com/
Read this, Vladimir. My friend is much better qualified to answer your questions concerning genetic intellect than I.

http://cptwc.matriots.com/jews2.html
Here is why my country is now a mess, KitKat. Let's see you refute this.

The Color of Crime
http://www.amren.com/946issue/946issue.html

" You are a disgraceful and utterly an irresponsible poor excuse for a white man, if indeed you are." and you are a filthy nazi scum ball who is so ignorant as to believe race accounts for anything to do with inteligence.
the fact that more black people are involved in crime in the US is to do with the fact that in GENERAL they are worse off and live in poorer areas there is a link to this type of living and crime but no link to race and crime - just because you are black doesnt mean you will commit crime - however if you live in a very deprived area then you are more likely to comit crimes than someone who is very well off for example. this applies to white people the same as it does to "nonwhites" - so dont start spouting bollocks about race and intelligence levels being directly related or anything else - once again i will call you a nazi and bid you farewell

on just how advanced is the black race that it is capable of turning Rhodesia (now named Zimbabwe) from the second most richest and progressive countries in africa (of course run by whites) to a basket case that can only (perhaps) be rivaled by Ethiopia.

(read the first and last message in the bellow link)

White Zimbabwe Farmers Under Pressure
(last reply: Corruption and Despair Choke Zimbabwe)
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=88448&messageid=1029267989&lp=1066599363


ps: question remains will whites in S.A.R. be stupid enough to actually hand over the economy to blacks and if so how fast will S.A.R. COLAPSE?

Did you just write "second most richest"?

But seriously, all the African countries took a dive after the imperialists pulled out, because of the chaos it generated.

I could talk about all the whites failures that you conveniently overlooked. You just look at failures as they seve your own arguement.

And everyone has yet to say anything about my difference of values arguement. Do you have no answer for it? Thought not.

Finally somebody who feels the same way i do

Well,I guess first of all,the left would need to HAVe some wise ideas.