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WWII Cover-Up

October 6 2005 at 3:25 PM
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This is a must read! and I'm sure the "Swedish diplomat" is Raoul Wallenberg.
http://www.lulu.com/content/166291


 
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February 27 2006, 4:40 AM 

I probaply will newer read this book so would you be so kind as to tell what is that cover-up?
I'm interested because it has a swedish diplomat involved.

 
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http://pocakos.blogspot.com/2005/11/magyar-tmj-knyvsiker.html

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March 9 2006, 2:13 AM 

The British sold out some WW2 anti Nazi intelligence officers in Hungary and let them starve in Soviet gulags because they helped hide Jews or so it appears from this below

At 5:19 AM, Catherine Eva Schandl said...
Hello,
I am Catherine Eva Schandl, author of "Sword of the Turul." Thank you for your interest in my father's story. Yes, you are correct,he was the son of Karoly Schandl the politician and president of OKH.
My father was working in the British led anti-Nazi Hungarian resistance.
As stated in the book, my father was arrested by the Red Army 17 miles south of Lake Velence in early December 1944. He had been ordered by British inteligence to take a Dutch officer to the Russians. The Russians were supposed to forward the Dutch officer to the British Intelligence Service and forward my father to the "allegedly newly formed anti-Nazi Hungarian government." The Red Army arrested them both. Sadly, the Dutch officer did not survive in the prison.He had been working for Raoul Wallenberg in Budapest.My father and his group had all been helping the persecuted Jewish community of Hungary. A number of the young men in his group were of Jewish origin.
The Schandl villa was located across from the Swedish embassy in Budapest, but my father was not arrested at that location.
Catherine Eva Schandl, M.Ed.


At 11:41 AM, Pocakos said...
Dear Catherine (Kati),

thank you so much for your response and explanation. I was delighted to read your comment, and wondering about the phenomenon of Internet. As you see, your web-site is observed by Hungarians too, who know the historic background of your book quite well. It would be worthy of mention to the Hungarian readers (visitors) some detailed notes on your web-site regarding to your father’s family(tree)* and locations of the events.
Sincerely yours

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- was he the only child/son?
- did the family (your grandfather) meet in the US or Canada later on? etc.
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I guess the Hungarians (particularly the new generation) are much more interested in your father's biography (family and his entirely life) than (just) the Soviet prison system.


At 3:43 AM, Catherine Eva Schandl said...
Hello again! Here is some information about the Schandls in case the young people of Hungary would like to know more about them:
My father - Karoly William Schandl - was born in 1912 (he died in 1990, a few weeks before the Soviet soldiers left Hungary). He was the only son of Karoly Schandl Senior - http://www.ogyk.hu/e-konyvt/mpgy/alm/al935_40/359.htm - and his wife Terezia (they also had a daughter). The website above is the page about Schandl Karoly in the 1935-40 Magyar Almanach.
My grandmother Terezia was a devout Catholic and had a close relationship with the Paulist (Palos) Order. My father attended a Piarist school in Budapest and later graduated as a lawyer from Petrus Pazmany University. During the 2nd World War, my father was involved in an anti-Nazi resistance group of Hungarians who were led by British intelligence. The young men in his group were his friends from the Piarist Boy Scouts (Oreg Cserkeszek). My father was also hiding a Jewish friend in his apartment (his apartment was on the 2nd floor of the Schandl Gellert Hill villa, which was at 16-18 Kelenhegyi Street. His apartment had a separate entrance).
His mother, Terezia Schandl, was hiding Jewish Hungarians in the Catholic charities on whose board she served (she secretly placed them in the retirement homes as "helpers" and gave them false identities).
The entire time my father was in prison in the Soviet Union, he was considered "missing" and the Soviets denied knowing where he was, but my grandmother refused to believe he was not alive. She prayed for him a great deal and set a place for him at the table every Christmas.
In 1950, the AVO tricked Terezia and Karoly Senior and arrested them for trying to flee the country. They were taken to Gyor prison (and were then separated and she was put in a few other prisons). After 2 years, they were let out of prison, but everything they owned was gone. The Communists had seized everything they owned and made their home on Gellert Hill into a passport office (at that time). Years later, the Communists also sold the large lot of land which belonged to the house - to the Finnish embassy. (http://www.finland.hu/en - click on the left side where it says "Embassy", then click on "History." Near the bottom of the page is written "After long negotiations, the Finnish state managed to buy the neighboring land parcel of 1500 square meters at 18 Kelenhegyi Street."
In late september of 1956, my father was released from prison and immediately went into hiding. After the Hungarian revolution, the Soviets were looking for him again so he had to leave the country. He went to England but left after "Whitehall" refused to listen to him that there were still members of the British led anti-Nazi resistance (from different countries) being secretly kept in Soviet prisons. "They acted as if they would be afraid of me," he wrote in his memoirs.
In 1957, he moved to Canada, where he became a Chartered Accountant and university professor. In 1958, he married my mother in Canada (she grew up in Hungary and was 24 years younger than him).
The Hungarian government did not permit my grandfather Karoly Schandl Senior and my grandmother Terezia to leave Hungary until 1962. In 1962, my grandparents came to Canada and lived with my parents for 1 year, in the small town in eastern Canada, where my father was teaching at a university. After a year, Karoly Senior and Terezia moved to the United States.
This information is all in the book, which includes 16 pages of excerpts from my father's memoirs and 15 pages of excerpts from my grandmother's memoirs.
One thing the book does not mention, however, is that my grandfather Karoly's younger brother was Jozsef Schandl, the "Kossuth Dijas" Hungarian scientist.
http://konyvtar.univet.hu/portre/arckepcd/schandsz.htm
I never met my great-uncle Jozsef but his name and address are still in my father's old address book.
My father never returned to Hungary and my grandparents didn't either. They felt it would be too risky as they had been classified as "osztalyidegen" even though they were good people who tried to help others. While he was the State Secretary of Agriculture (in Bethlen's cabinet), my grandfather Karoly Schandl was a strong advocate of land reform.
I knew both my grandparents well when I was a child. They visited us in Canada frequently. My grandmother was a great lady and my grandfather was a quiet and dignified gentleman who was unhappy that he had to leave his country. I have one brother and one sister - but I can't really say more about the family as I need to respect their privacy.
Kati
http://www.swordoftheturul.com
P.S. According to my father, Raoul Wallenberg was hiding 30 Jewish men, women, and children at the Finnish embassy, which was next door to my father's home. When the Arrow Cross (Nyilasok) learned about it, they set the embassy on fire (and they killed an entire Jewish family). The Finnish embassy website does not say this but maybe it's because their staff was already gone from Budapest at that time and no one ever told them what really happened.


 
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May 19 2006, 5:28 AM 

It's about how a group of anti-Nazi Hungarians who were with British intelligence ended up being betrayed by the British SOE because the SOE was communist and reported all not-communists to the NKVD. The NKVD then "liquidated" them in Soviet prisons but some got out and lived to tell the tale.

 
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May 19 2006, 5:32 AM 

There's also more info at http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/3/prweb357550.htm

"What really happened to the British led anti-Nazi resistance in World War II Hungary - and who they were.

Toronto, CA (PRWEB) March 11, 2006 -- “Sword of the Turul,” by Catherine Eva Schandl, tells the true story of how the British-led anti-Nazi resistance in Hungary was secretly imprisoned by the NKVD and abandoned by the British intelligence service after World War II. The only thing missing from the book is names. The author is now disclosing the real names of: the Hungarian leader of her father Karoly’s resistance group, one of the group members who also ended up in Vladimir prison, and the arrested Dutch lieutenant who was working for Raoul Wallenberg.

“I am revealing these names because Hungary’s National Day of March 15 (war of independence) is approaching,” the author explains, “and Hungarians have a right to know about all their heroes and what really happened to them.”

Karoly William Schandl, a Hungarian lawyer, was a survivor of almost 12 years in the Soviet prisons of Lubyanka, Lefortovo, and Vladimir. Prior to his official arrest by the NKVD/SMERSH on December 8, 1944, he was a member of a British led anti-Nazi resistance group, and lived across from Raoul Wallenberg’s Swedish Embassy in Budapest. In early December 1944 - south of Lake Velence - SMERSH arrested Karoly Schandl, along with a Dutch lieutenant who had been working for Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg. British intelligence had ordered them to report to the Russians.

The Dutch lieutenant was G. Van der Waals.

Karoly and Lt. Van der Waals were placed in Lubyanka and then Lefortovo prison.

The leader of Karoly's group, Gabor Haraszty (code name “Albert”), was a young Hungarian lawyer of Jewish origin who had become an officer of the British Intelligence Service. He too was later arrested by SMERSH. He did not survive.

After 5 years as a POW, Karoly was accused of being a “British spy.” In 1950, he was transferred to Vladimir prison, where he was kept locked away in secret, in the “special section,” near another friend from his resistance group, Laszlo Pap, who had also been arrested. The Soviets continued to deny any knowledge of their whereabouts.

(Lt. Van der Waals had already perished years earlier in Lefortovo prison)

Karoly Schandl was finally released by the Soviets in 1956. Shortly afterwards, he went to Whitehall (U.K.) and told them that members of the British-led resistance were still secretly imprisoned in the Soviet Union. Whitehall, however, was not willing to listen.

To date, MI6 has not offered any explanation.

(Russia has since opened up a number of files and released Karoly Schandl’s secret prison card to the joint Swedish-Russian Wallenberg Commission in 1990, as one of only three Hungarians secretly held in Vladimir prison, assigned a number)

More information about this true story can be found at:
http://www.swordoftheturul.com "


 
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