I am a female and I just wanted to make a comment regarding the men of God, and since I belong to Champions Covenant's Youth I will direct it towards the men of Wonation. I have such a respect for you guys and all that you do, to be honest some more than others, but I just wanted to remind or better yet encourage you in one regard. I personally have spent a lot of time with guys who claim to be Christian men of God, almost my whole
life as a matter of fact, and recently because of personally situations I have been speding a lot of time with guys who dont make any of those claims. I would just like to say that the guys who dontconfess Christ as part of their lives were the ones that made me feel special.. good about myself, and like a real woman.. all things that we girls need to feel. It was those guys who treated me right and I was impressed. I guess I had always though that if they weren't Christian they had to be scum, but it's not true. It actually shed a lot of light on you guys, the church guys. As children of God you are called to live a different life than the world, and we as Women of God are also called to, but I just wanna encourage you guys that we need to be treated with respect and we need to be made to feel special and beautiful. You are the onesthat should be doing that. We as girls should not have to run to the world to get those feelings. There are certain guys like Micah Gott, and Chris Ceasar to name a couple who really know how to make a woman feel like a queen, without might I add any hidden agenda. I dont know who all is following, but Im tired of seeing girls running to the immature men of the world who make them feel good but can't offer what they really need. I just feel that if the guys would step up and start treating girls like they're something special, things would be different. Not only would it make us stronger as a youth, but you guys would receive a blessing in it also. It breaks my heart to see a girl settle, so as the men of wonation set a standard for us to strive for. Be the kind of man who treats a girl like a queen, and not just cuz she's your girl and you're gonna get something out of it, but because you respect who she is in Christ. That's all I have to say hope my point got across. Love you guys

what? this message was a little confusing. you should not have to look to men to make you feel special. maybe the men in the youth want a lady they don't have to make feel like that, they want someone who already feels like a beautiful queen.

I believe that the woman of God was giving us insight to womanhood. I don't believe she was trying to state that women need to be pampered by men to fulfill some sort of purpose. Pastor Katrina once spoke to me about a woman's feelings and emotions. She said that a woman's ultimate desire (what she is seeking for) in a relationship is security and trust. Security in how you view them, security that you will protect them (emotionally as well as physically), security that you won't leave them when things get hectic. There's many more to add to that list. And females follow that up with trust. Trust that they can give you a part of themselves - emotions, TIME, physically (not just talking sexually), etc. - and that you won't abuse that or take them for granted and just leave.
I believe the woman of God was simply stating that if we as men of God don't present these qualities of security and trust (Take into account all that these two qualities hold.) then they will seek them elsewhere. Also, keep in mind that the woman of God wasn't saying that we are to do this for the sake of having a "couple" relationship. When we are treating females as royalty - being in the kingdom of God - and displaying those qualities of security and trust and doing this on a consistent basis, then when a woman of God IS desiring a "couple" relationship she already knows that the cream of the crop is within the men of God. And she will know that she doesn't have to settle for anything less than the cream of the crop.
A certain female may have no desire to be with us (maybe they're aren't physically attracted or whatever) but because they see us treating them and other females as they should be treated and in the manner of God, they will know what qualities to look forward to in their man of God. This goes to say that you can be a married man such as Pastor Victor and still influence a young lady to wait for her man of God. Same for us males being able to look admire married women like Pastor Katrina.
Pastor Katrina, if you can add or correct anything...please do! I'm not claiming to be any type of expert. Just sharing what I've learned.
And to the woman of God, I hope I responded correctly in trying to reveal what you were saying to us men of God.

Love y'all
Ceaser

have there been guys at the church disrespectng you whenever youcome or something because that is what it sounds like.

to add my opinion....
I am tired of seeing girls run to men for attention period!
This is sad.... I have seen girls who are on fire for God, all about his will get involved with a dude who was a good dude but was not looking for Gods will...and before you knew it, you scarcely saw them around anymore. And i have also known guys who have had the same thing happen to them... a bad relationship can mess up a good person.

I can understand your post if you have been personally disrespected.... but if the premise for your post is the fact that you dont get as much attention as you feel you need then.... grow up. (not trying to be rude, but for real you need to be prayin about that!!!)

Well, i hope i didnt offend you too bad



-chase

Chris you hit the nail on the head thank you. I am sorry if I was not clear, but if there is confusion in what I meant just read his post. and Chase, it has nothing to do with receiving ATTENTION, it has to do with receiving respect. I have sat at a table with guys from the youth group and heard them speak of women like objects with no feelings, criticizing and ridiculing and judging,, I am scared that the women are going to lower their standards because if a "man of God" won't show them respect outside of a romantic relationship how can we ever expect respect from a man when we are IN a relationship. And if we don't expect it we will settle for the kind of guy the world has to offer. I don't want your attention at all, but whether you wanna realize it or not and especially you, Chase, as a leader girls are looking to you as an example of how a man of God will treat women. And all I am asking is that you be aware of this, and be the example Christ called you to be. We must all always remember like a good friend recently told me that our actions affect more than ourselves.

why wont you post your name?? i dont remember treating anybody with disrespect, but hey maybe i did! let me know what i have done to offend you... email me or something chase@wonation.org

i personally think that chase is a great over all example, but everyone makes mistakes.



and remember you have to give respect to get it.

i only directed that statement to you, Chase because of your response, I meant the topic in general for all men of God as indicated in the subject, and as far as i can see i made no accusations. I only wanted to remind you of the position you hold and how many women are looking at you, and that the men are imitating you. You have never insulted me and if you did I would confront you about it face to face in private. Don't take my post personally. I agree that Chase is a strong man of God and I respect him very much and am not saying otherwise. Please do not read into what I posted as I meant what I typed and only what I typed. I love every guy at our church and would never mean to discourage only to encourage you to be what you have been called to be.

thank you, and i do know the position i hold... but thanks for reminding me.