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These are the best of times, and the worst of times...(long version) View entire thread - ThomasM on Dec 3, 2006, 11:11 PM

Okay, friends, here's the short version - - ThomasM on Dec 3, 2006, 11:11 PM

All forum visitors, please read: View entire thread - ThomasM on Dec 3, 2006, 4:37 PM

Pics. I took yesterday.... View entire thread - Dave in Paris on Dec 3, 2006, 1:19 AM

You really make this watch 200% better - CL on Dec 3, 2006, 5:30 AM

Very nice. That first one's tremendous <nt> - jtbradley on Dec 3, 2006, 8:56 AM

Comments on the Patek 5040... View entire thread - SRG on Dec 2, 2006, 9:33 PM

I would give the YG a miss but - CL on Dec 3, 2006, 5:33 AM

Yep, WG, Pt or RG is the way to go on the 5040 (nt) - Velociphile on Dec 3, 2006, 1:25 PM

langematik perpetual of PP5059RG View entire thread - moses on Dec 1, 2006, 7:36 PM

Imvho..... - CL on Dec 2, 2006, 6:18 AM

5059 - arolex on Dec 2, 2006, 10:46 AM

5059 - Zane on Dec 2, 2006, 9:14 PM

Does money give you good taste? View entire thread - Mostel on Nov 30, 2006, 7:17 PM

good taste - moss on Nov 30, 2006, 8:08 PM

Well said apart from...... - Zane on Dec 1, 2006, 3:21 AM

Now, that's seriously impressive! (nt) - Allen on Dec 1, 2006, 10:08 AM

thats cool!!! - Moss on Dec 1, 2006, 9:10 PM

That's a relief. - Zane on Dec 2, 2006, 9:11 PM

My own two cents... - Rob on Nov 30, 2006, 9:55 PM

Rob, you are one fine example of a ..... - CL on Dec 1, 2006, 1:44 AM

Thanks so much for your kind words John... - Rob on Dec 1, 2006, 2:45 AM

No it allows you to.. - G.Francis on Dec 1, 2006, 6:02 AM

Well, yes, if you're buying marmalade. (nt) - chris russell on Dec 1, 2006, 8:00 AM

NO - Bruno on Dec 1, 2006, 8:16 AM

Of course note - jtbradley on Dec 1, 2006, 11:26 AM

Thanks for interesting replies... - mostel on Dec 2, 2006, 10:32 AM

HELP!!! - CONFUSED!!!5100R OR 5050R OR 3970E View entire thread - christakis on Nov 30, 2006, 9:54 AM

Well they are all great but...., - G.Francis on Nov 30, 2006, 10:36 AM

thanks - Anonymous on Nov 30, 2006, 10:49 AM

Please use lower case text - autowind on Nov 30, 2006, 10:37 AM

definitely 3970E !! - jaume on Nov 30, 2006, 4:40 PM

3970ER - Zane on Nov 30, 2006, 6:48 PM

how could you say that - moss on Nov 30, 2006, 9:09 PM

That's me! - Zane on Dec 1, 2006, 2:40 AM

what's the right-most model in the last picture?? - Matt on Dec 1, 2006, 6:09 PM

What is the first launching year of 5146 ? View entire thread - aimam on Nov 30, 2006, 5:47 AM

5146 answers - WatchFan1 on Nov 30, 2006, 1:10 PM

5036 actually the one before 5146. - Zane on Nov 30, 2006, 6:43 PM

Re: What is the first launching year of 5146 ? - adriantsang on Dec 3, 2006, 8:03 AM

Deploment Buckle and Winders View entire thread - geoffrey on Nov 30, 2006, 5:20 AM

Not a big fan... - G.Francis on Nov 30, 2006, 6:17 AM

Deployant vs Tang - autowind on Nov 30, 2006, 10:33 AM

Re: Deploment Buckle and Winders - christakis on Nov 30, 2006, 9:45 AM

Good advice.. - G.Francis on Nov 30, 2006, 10:38 AM

good answers but - WatchFan1 on Nov 30, 2006, 1:14 PM

Thanks! - geoffrey on Dec 1, 2006, 3:56 AM

5101 : Opinion/Advice... View entire thread - Tim on Nov 30, 2006, 3:32 AM

One wise and long time watch collector whom I respect alot...... - CL on Nov 30, 2006, 4:12 AM

Its a huge amount of money.. - G.Francis on Nov 30, 2006, 6:25 AM

It's a great watch and a pleasure to wear. - Matthew on Nov 30, 2006, 8:12 AM

Thanks guys... - Tim on Dec 1, 2006, 11:47 PM

Question regarding Orbita winders . . . View entire thread - Art on Nov 29, 2006, 9:19 PM

Orbita - Evan Kress on Nov 30, 2006, 8:20 AM

ORBITA - christakis on Nov 30, 2006, 9:37 AM

Re: Question regarding Orbita winders . . . - autowind on Nov 30, 2006, 10:36 AM

Re: Question regarding Orbita winders . . . - Anonymous on Nov 30, 2006, 10:54 AM

the sparta - geoffrey on Dec 1, 2006, 4:02 AM

Thank you all for your informed responses . . . - Art on Dec 1, 2006, 7:15 AM

More info please - autowind on Dec 1, 2006, 10:12 AM

Hypothetical Question (Customized 5110) View entire thread - J.R. on Nov 29, 2006, 6:35 AM

Help me with this reference.... description only no pic... View entire thread - JC on Nov 29, 2006, 1:41 AM

I can't help,.... - SuitbertW on Nov 29, 2006, 7:34 AM

Suitbert - JC on Nov 29, 2006, 12:51 PM

Patek Museum Vist Part 2 View entire thread - SALMAN on Nov 28, 2006, 12:06 PM

Great review and pics. I too was blown away by the pieces in the museum - julian on Nov 30, 2006, 12:07 PM

Thanks for these pics, Salman. - Allen on Nov 30, 2006, 1:40 PM

Patek Museum Visit Part 1 View entire thread - SALMAN on Nov 28, 2006, 12:02 PM

Thank you for sharing Salman. - WatchFan1 on Nov 30, 2006, 1:16 PM

What do you choose between 5146 and 5711 View entire thread - aimam on Nov 28, 2006, 6:49 AM

Apples and Oranges - Kazumi on Nov 28, 2006, 2:22 PM

agree..apples and oranges....but since you asked ;-) - WatchFan1 on Nov 28, 2006, 9:29 PM

Two Geneva Seals on a 215 movement? View entire thread - happy_wis on Nov 28, 2006, 1:45 AM

correct - jaume on Nov 28, 2006, 3:57 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but is this true for all brands with geneva seal movements? (nt) - Kazumi on Nov 28, 2006, 7:10 PM

All? - happy_wis on Nov 28, 2006, 10:06 PM

I've to admit ... - SuitbertW on Nov 29, 2006, 7:39 AM

More... - SuitbertW on Nov 29, 2006, 8:09 AM

Thanks, Suitbert. - happy_wis on Nov 29, 2006, 6:45 PM

3448 - Another Rant! View entire thread - JC on Nov 27, 2006, 8:36 PM

3448 - a rolex on Nov 28, 2006, 7:00 AM

2499 feels GREAT! View entire thread - JC on Nov 27, 2006, 5:03 PM

Lucky you - Zane on Nov 27, 2006, 7:16 PM

I couldn't agree more :-) [nt] - SteveS in NJ on Nov 28, 2006, 6:58 AM

2499 & 5970... - arolex on Nov 29, 2006, 1:01 PM

To all 5970 owners...quick question...... View entire thread - Dom on Nov 27, 2006, 8:40 AM

Perfectly normal - my 5970 rose has the same dot . (nt) - David on Nov 27, 2006, 9:01 AM

I've seen the same on the some 3970's too. Must be normal. [nt] - SteveSinNJ on Nov 27, 2006, 10:46 AM

Thanks a bunch, guys. - Dom on Nov 27, 2006, 4:09 PM

Re: To all 5970 owners...quick question...... - Zane on Nov 27, 2006, 7:20 PM

Very nice pic! - Doc on Nov 27, 2006, 10:41 PM

Doc... - Dje on Nov 28, 2006, 1:11 AM

Normal. - JR on Nov 28, 2006, 8:43 PM

More Pics...; ;-) View entire thread - Dave in Paris on Nov 27, 2006, 4:51 AM

Ok, Ok..... - CL on Nov 27, 2006, 7:36 PM

the first PP which I should go for View entire thread - aimam on Nov 26, 2006, 11:18 PM

Not the point? - JC on Nov 27, 2006, 2:00 AM

If we knew that.... - G.Francis on Nov 27, 2006, 2:50 AM

You should go with the one you like most. - Shattuck86 on Nov 27, 2006, 3:24 AM

Probably a 5146 - Zane on Nov 27, 2006, 7:03 AM

But isn't that over budget? - Anonymous on Nov 27, 2006, 9:17 AM

Sorry, I left out my name. - bourgogneboy on Nov 27, 2006, 9:20 AM

I agree 5146 - WatchFan1 on Nov 28, 2006, 9:40 PM

I completely agree with JC - Anonymous on Nov 30, 2006, 5:02 AM

Some Pics. I took today.... View entire thread - Dave in Paris on Nov 26, 2006, 12:35 PM

Very nice. It's a keeper! (nt) - JackB on Nov 26, 2006, 2:47 PM

Great pics, nice watch! Thanks for sharing. (nt) - Kazumi on Nov 26, 2006, 3:22 PM

Great shots of a great piece!! Thanks for sharing... nt - Rob on Nov 26, 2006, 4:39 PM

Very imaginative. - Zane on Nov 26, 2006, 8:15 PM

Thank you.... Does someone have a White Gold Calatrava with a Brown Leather on it ?? - Dave in Paris on Nov 26, 2006, 10:58 PM

Here's some pics >> - DavidBNA on Nov 28, 2006, 10:29 AM

Thank you. - Dave in Paris on Nov 30, 2006, 1:53 AM

Re: Some Pics. I took today.... - Shattuck86 on Nov 27, 2006, 3:27 AM

Poll: 5119 or 5196 View entire thread - Richard on Nov 25, 2006, 7:37 PM

5119 for me please. - Zane on Nov 26, 2006, 2:47 AM

I vote for the 5196 - Richard on Nov 26, 2006, 5:57 PM

5196 vote here - WatchFan1 on Nov 26, 2006, 7:34 PM

I vote 5196. (RG/YG) nt - Chuck Lee on Nov 26, 2006, 7:42 PM

I already made my choice (pic)>>>> - SteveS in NJ on Nov 27, 2006, 3:44 AM

Stunningly beautiful! - bourgogneboy on Nov 27, 2006, 9:22 AM

Thank you [nt] - SteveSinNJ on Nov 30, 2006, 5:58 AM

Both are nice - jtbradley on Nov 27, 2006, 1:47 PM

Controversy! 5059 nicer than 5050 Roman View entire thread - JC on Nov 25, 2006, 5:40 AM

My thoughts are I'll take any 5050 in any configuration >>> - SteveS in NJ on Nov 25, 2006, 6:45 AM

Same here...5050 hands down... - WatchFan1_onTZ on Nov 26, 2006, 11:55 AM

Disagree. . . - autowind on Nov 26, 2006, 2:55 PM

5059 for me - Zane on Nov 25, 2006, 7:07 AM

5050 hands down, prefer the calatrava case.. - arolex on Nov 25, 2006, 9:20 AM

I love both refs - tahoeblue on Nov 25, 2006, 10:08 AM

yep....... - JC on Nov 25, 2006, 2:58 PM

Re: Controversy! 5059 nicer than 5050 Roman - linus on Nov 26, 2006, 4:04 AM

Any of these would be great for my collection... - Shattuck86 on Nov 27, 2006, 3:26 AM

I can't help but think that the 5050 gets a lot of press on its rarity alone - jtbradley on Nov 27, 2006, 1:55 PM

My Instints - 5050 not that rare vs 5059? - JC on Nov 27, 2006, 4:56 PM

Don't know the answers to your questions/speculations - jtbradley on Nov 28, 2006, 9:08 AM

Love the 5050 Roman - Steve in CA on Nov 27, 2006, 3:14 PM

HELP: 5065 vs. APRO Jumbo or Chrono. View entire thread - Nero on Nov 22, 2006, 12:54 PM

5065... - guy on Nov 23, 2006, 5:24 AM

Re: 5065... - Anonymous on Nov 23, 2006, 11:20 AM

Any Royal Oak with the 3120 automatic movement would be my vote. nt - Jay on Nov 23, 2006, 4:15 PM

Try them on your wrist! - Gary G on Nov 24, 2006, 3:46 PM

Re: Try them on your wrist! - Anonymous on Nov 26, 2006, 10:27 AM

This is of course the PP forum, - tahoeblue on Nov 25, 2006, 10:10 AM

5065 - Anonymous on Nov 26, 2006, 6:57 PM

Is this a normal business practice done by Patek in Asia? View entire thread - bmccaw on Nov 22, 2006, 12:21 PM

You can find local distributors... - SuitbertW on Nov 22, 2006, 12:58 PM

Is it somehow (partially) owned by PP? - happy_wis on Nov 22, 2006, 7:24 PM

I have heard about similar practice by some ADs in UK and USA - WatchFan1 on Nov 22, 2006, 1:50 PM

IMO.... - happy_wis on Nov 22, 2006, 4:42 PM

One more thing.... - happy_wis on Nov 22, 2006, 4:51 PM

Don't get me started - Gary G on Nov 24, 2006, 3:53 PM

Thanks for all your info.... - bmccaw on Nov 22, 2006, 5:35 PM

Yes, I agree. "Elsewhere" is the answer.... - happy_wis on Nov 22, 2006, 5:53 PM

Patek's control in HK - bigmin on Nov 22, 2006, 9:33 PM

Well... yes and no.... IMHO.... - happy_wis on Nov 22, 2006, 10:26 PM

Re: Well... yes and no.... IMHO.... - bmccaw on Nov 22, 2006, 10:52 PM

Buying PP is not just "fun" anymore... - happy_wis on Nov 22, 2006, 11:08 PM

I was registered, still registered in every purchase... - bmccaw on Nov 22, 2006, 10:43 PM

Exactly! Well said! (nt) - happy_wis on Nov 22, 2006, 10:54 PM

Seller Market - bigmin on Nov 23, 2006, 2:55 AM

do you know Patek is made in thailand View entire thread - moss on Nov 22, 2006, 12:14 AM

Nice one - zane on Nov 22, 2006, 7:43 AM

Re: do you know Patek is made in thailand - watchagogo on Nov 22, 2006, 9:48 AM

get together View entire thread - moss on Nov 21, 2006, 11:23 PM

I am speechless !!...Again ;-) - WatchFan1 on Nov 21, 2006, 11:50 PM

Say some thing Please - moss on Nov 29, 2006, 11:36 PM

Wow, wow, wow!!! What an awesome set of Pateks!!! Thanks so much for sharing!!! nt - Rob on Nov 22, 2006, 12:16 AM

Thanks Rob - moss on Nov 29, 2006, 11:37 PM

What a marvellous collection!! - addi on Nov 22, 2006, 2:17 AM

Thanks Addi - moss on Nov 29, 2006, 11:38 PM

wonderful..... - guy on Nov 22, 2006, 2:19 AM

Thanks Guy - moss on Nov 29, 2006, 11:42 PM

Unbelieveable collection, great taste too.nt - arolex on Nov 22, 2006, 6:34 AM

I never belive it too - moss on Nov 29, 2006, 11:52 PM

That's what I'm talking about! - zane on Nov 22, 2006, 7:46 AM

Its custom made By Patek - moss on Nov 29, 2006, 11:58 PM

Shall we combine?? - zane on Nov 22, 2006, 7:49 AM

:) a great collection + another great collection = ? - schen on Nov 22, 2006, 8:51 AM

Beautiful collection Zane, between you and Moss... - arolex on Nov 22, 2006, 1:51 PM

Great collection - which one do you actually wear? - David on Nov 27, 2006, 9:42 AM

A fabulous, coherent and tasteful collection ! - schen on Nov 22, 2006, 8:46 AM

Thanks schen - moss on Nov 30, 2006, 12:19 AM

No minute repeater or tourbillon? :-) - Domi on Nov 22, 2006, 8:47 AM

Thanks Domi - moss on Nov 29, 2006, 11:35 PM

ecceptional - lutz on Nov 22, 2006, 10:52 PM

Thanks lutz - moss on Nov 29, 2006, 11:31 PM

O.k.. Here is my Patek Philippe... Many Pics... View entire thread - Dave in Paris on Nov 19, 2006, 11:42 AM

congrats Dave.... - guy on Nov 19, 2006, 11:54 AM

Merci. - Dave in Paris on Nov 19, 2006, 12:37 PM

tout.... - guy on Nov 19, 2006, 12:58 PM

O.k.. - Dave in Paris on Nov 19, 2006, 1:13 PM

Re: O.k.. Here is my Patek Philippe... Many Pics... - Bruno on Nov 19, 2006, 2:14 PM

Oui, mais.... - Dave in Paris on Nov 19, 2006, 10:55 PM

Nice! - tahoeblue on Nov 19, 2006, 8:26 PM

Congrats! and Buckle question - PeterS on Nov 20, 2006, 1:18 AM

Good remarks....; ;-) - Dave in Paris on Nov 20, 2006, 1:21 AM

Very very NICE :-) - CL on Nov 20, 2006, 5:24 AM

Congrats, Dave. A great way to start your PP collection. [nt] - SteveSinNJ on Nov 20, 2006, 11:10 AM

Beautiful watch... - Jay BA on Nov 21, 2006, 1:50 PM

Custom straps for Patek - made in USA... View entire thread - WatchFan1 on Nov 19, 2006, 8:45 AM

I'm enjoying the horns - Matthew on Nov 20, 2006, 6:21 PM

Re: Please get the 5396 so i can play with it. - WatchFan1 on Nov 21, 2006, 12:38 PM

....looking for info from 5135 owners... - WatchFan1 on Nov 21, 2006, 9:42 PM

BTW.... - WatchFan1 on Nov 21, 2006, 1:21 PM

....found the answer - WatchFan1 on Nov 22, 2006, 10:34 AM

GP's solution to protruding lugs - bigmin on Nov 25, 2006, 5:00 AM

RE; "Maybe a curved lug pin will solve the problem." - WatchFan1 on Nov 26, 2006, 12:16 PM

Who are you? View entire thread - Charles on Nov 18, 2006, 11:31 PM

my ultimate View entire thread - Moss on Nov 17, 2006, 7:31 PM

another one - Moss on Nov 17, 2006, 7:43 PM

Nice! - tahoeblue on Nov 17, 2006, 8:00 PM

Yes, just did notice - tahoeblue on Nov 18, 2006, 10:22 AM

left one is 5004PT right one is 3970PT - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:25 AM

Great collection. - julian on Nov 17, 2006, 8:02 PM

Thanks julian - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:27 AM

What an awesome set... - Rob on Nov 17, 2006, 8:42 PM

1 extra hand and alot of extra work by the watchmaker - matthew on Nov 17, 2006, 8:56 PM

Thanks Matthew - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:29 AM

O my God...that's a 5020WG in the middle - Larry on Nov 18, 2006, 2:23 AM

it never end, trust me Larry - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:31 AM

Thanks Rob - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:28 AM

I'll be done forever....... - CL on Nov 18, 2006, 5:18 AM

Thanks CL - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:32 AM

WOW... - addi on Nov 18, 2006, 7:20 AM

As we Chinese say... - Larry on Nov 18, 2006, 7:42 AM

YOU CAN, LARRY... - addi on Nov 18, 2006, 8:01 AM

For now i Like only white material - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:34 AM

At long last - zane on Nov 19, 2006, 8:14 AM

Its because of the wine on the table - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:39 AM

WOW - Bruno on Nov 18, 2006, 5:05 AM

One word: WOW!!!!!nt. - arolex on Nov 18, 2006, 1:28 PM

Thanks arolex - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:36 AM

Thanks - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:41 AM

Perfect collection..... - arolex on Nov 18, 2006, 1:30 PM

Need your entire collection - Zane on Nov 19, 2006, 8:06 PM

I Have to get them all together - Moss on Nov 20, 2006, 1:40 AM

Can't wait. - Zane on Nov 20, 2006, 7:46 AM

Wow!!! Absolutely amazing! Congrats. - Mel on Nov 20, 2006, 7:28 AM

Mind blowing. Very nice :-) [nt] - SteveSinNJ on Nov 20, 2006, 11:10 AM

thanks Steves - moss on Nov 30, 2006, 12:30 AM

WOW !! Stunning Trio ! - WatchFan1 on Nov 20, 2006, 2:23 PM

Thanks watchfan1 - moss on Nov 22, 2006, 12:15 AM

Great collection - which one do you actually wear? - David on Nov 27, 2006, 9:51 AM

PP Exhibition - Vintage View entire thread - adriantsang on Nov 17, 2006, 5:55 AM

Re: PP Exhibition - Vintage - Watchagogo on Nov 17, 2006, 9:41 AM

Only one word to describe these..... - et on Nov 17, 2006, 10:16 AM

Phew, need a cigarette!!!!What a great collection of vintage. - julian on Nov 17, 2006, 12:53 PM

WOW!!!! , let me click my heels and get back .. - arolex on Nov 17, 2006, 2:07 PM

Thanks so much for sharing!!! nt - Rob on Nov 17, 2006, 8:43 PM

MAGNIFICENT - stunning beauty and they sure had class back then. (nt) - David on Nov 27, 2006, 9:55 AM

Patek Philippe re-opens the historic "Salon", Geneva View entire thread - SuitbertW on Nov 17, 2006, 5:49 AM

New limited anniversary ref. 5105 - SuitbertW on Nov 17, 2006, 6:03 AM

Wow! very nice. nt - JGV on Nov 17, 2006, 6:50 AM

wow, great pieces.Forgive me but are these available sale? - julian on Nov 17, 2006, 12:56 PM

my new dream Patek :) (nt) - ei8htohms on Nov 17, 2006, 4:27 PM

New limited anniversary ref. 5565 - SuitbertW on Nov 17, 2006, 6:10 AM

Thank you, Mr. Suitbert... - addi on Nov 17, 2006, 6:35 AM

You're to kind, Addi.... - SuitbertW on Nov 17, 2006, 6:53 AM

That ´groundfloor´ picture is making me dizzy! .. - Edwin H. Heusinkveld on Nov 17, 2006, 7:55 AM

Thanks a lot Suitbert... - Dje on Nov 17, 2006, 8:54 AM

Yup. Said it before....WOW! nt. - et on Nov 17, 2006, 10:34 AM

5565. Thank you for the pics... - arolex on Nov 17, 2006, 2:14 PM

PP Exhibition in HK View entire thread - adriantsang on Nov 16, 2006, 9:55 AM

Thanks for great pics. Awaiting vintage series with bated breath!! - julian on Nov 16, 2006, 12:10 PM

What is the last day of the exhibition? - Merlion on Nov 16, 2006, 2:30 PM

Lovely pics - Zane on Nov 16, 2006, 8:34 PM

Re: Lovely pics - Anonymous on Nov 17, 2006, 2:47 AM

Thats serious overdoze!! What a fantastic Exhibition!! - Jacky on Nov 17, 2006, 5:18 AM

Thanks a lot, anyone missing? :-) nt - Dje on Nov 17, 2006, 8:58 AM

Wonderful Exhibition - Thanks for enjoyment - Dave on Nov 18, 2006, 7:34 AM

Iam Golden! View entire thread - rahul on Nov 16, 2006, 9:11 AM

Sorry... one more question.... View entire thread - happy_wis on Nov 16, 2006, 6:43 AM

Since you ask, the part where the "insider"..... - JGV on Nov 16, 2006, 7:51 AM

Oh. . . - dmcfarland on Nov 16, 2006, 9:02 AM

Re: Oh. . . - Ru on Nov 17, 2006, 9:05 AM

5107 View entire thread - DavidBNA on Nov 16, 2006, 5:31 AM

It looks great... - G.Francis on Nov 16, 2006, 6:53 AM

Love the scratches on the bezel... - CL on Nov 16, 2006, 2:09 PM

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