Hi Iv'e been reading on Abbys forum about a headmaster who spanked girl pupils on the bottom. Was this ever allowed and if so did boys get the same?
It seems strange to think of a girl at school being bent over and spanked by a man, was this not just an excuse to touch sixteen year old girls bottoms? if this was usual or unusual but did sometimes happen wher girl ever spanked on their bare bottoms by men or was it always over their skirts/knickers?
Re: girls bottoms spanked by male teachers at school
July 24 2002, 7:12 AM
Hello Joe,
I find it difficult to imagine a time in history when a male teacher spanking a girl pupil would not have been regarded as sexual abuse by every right thinking person in the land.
However, there seems to be abundant evidence to show that it happened in the UK in relatively modern times and still happens in the US and that it met/meets widespread acceptance (at least among those who regard CP itself as acceptable).
I have never heard from a reliable source of a case where a teenage schoolgirl was in modern times and in accordance with accepted procedures punished bare in the UK.
Also, as far as I am aware, no male teacher in the UK has ever spanked a girl pupil's bare bottom without subsequently facing criminal charges for assault - although amazing as it may seem the actual act of spanking her on the bare was not, in itself, illegal.
Anthea
Male Teachers
July 24 2002, 1:05 PM
Speaking for what happened at our school in the sixties the system was that a male teacher would have to send any girl deemed to be requiring corporal punishment to the Senior Mistress. There would then be an anxious time delay while she spoke with the master concerned about the incident. Then, after taking account of the girl's own side of the story, the decision would be made as to whether the offence required slapped legs (the usual outcome) or the cane. Either way the Senior Mistress would then administer the punishment and that was that. Never did I hear of any male teachers disciplining girls in this way.
Joe
Re: Male Teachers
July 24 2002, 1:34 PM
Hi, would it have been seen as a more severe punishment being spanked by a male teacher? or were female teacher feared as much?
Sarajane
Re: Re: Male Teachers
July 24 2002, 2:59 PM
In theory and generally speaking and most things being equal . . . a whacking will be more painful when delivered by a male than when delivered by a female.
In the real world, however, we have a multitude of variables not least significant of which are the psychological ones.
In nature, males are programmed to attack other males and to be as nice as pie to females. Also, men are programmed by society to believe that hitting women is at worst terribly wrong and at best nothing to be proud of. Also, male teachers just love to be liked by schoolgirls. All those factors will tend to soften the blow, so to speak.
Another relevant factor may be that a female teacher, in a school where both sexes whack pupils, might feel an obligation to show the world that a whacking from a woman teacher is anything BUT a soft option.
In practice therefore it may well be that a girl pupil is better off bending over for a male teacher than a female.
However, if the male teacher is sexually frustrated (notably by erectile disfunction), he may see the cane or slipper as a penis substitute and may use it to elicit from the girl the cries and moans he'd love to be elicting with his willy if only it would work and he had someone to use it on.
Taking everything into account, therefore, the answer to your question is . . . it all depends on the individual teacher and not his/her gender.
Sarajane
Re: Re: Re: Male Teachers
July 24 2002, 3:37 PM
In the previous posting, 'disfunction' should of course read 'dysfunction'
matt
common in the us
July 24 2002, 6:02 PM
I'd say it’s pretty common in the U.S. The number of swats has decreased in recent years, however. In my day, in HS the minimum by a principal was five. Now it seems to be two or three. Teachers, in my day, could deliver three swats. Now I think most places don't allow teachers to deliver swats.
In public schools, the paddle is almost always used. Private schools vary a little. I've never heard of a cane being used. The paddles are usually quite heavy, and I think are designed to penetrate several layer of denim, the most common material worn.
Swats are ALWAYS with cloths ON. I've never heard of it any other way. I can't even remember the threat or rumor of it bare, at school.
I should say, in my experience, the paddle is a quite affective instrument. Five well delivered swats resulted in a lot of pain. Bruising was a given. Blistering, especially with a few more swats, was common. The discomfort of blistering would last for days. Bruising would often result in a dull ache for several days, especially when initially seting down.
Re: Male Teachers
July 24 2002, 6:02 PM
Anthea,
Was this a secondary school?
Anthea
Was this a secondary school?
July 24 2002, 6:37 PM
Yes
Re: Was this a secondary school?
July 24 2002, 6:47 PM
Anthea,
Did your school have a sixth form, and were sixth-form girls subject to this? Even for a fifteen- or sixteen-year-old getting punished like this must have felt ridiculous. I think that a proper caning would have been less humiliating, all in all.
Anthea
Yes and No
July 24 2002, 7:07 PM
Yes there was a sixth form and no, girls in it did not get corporal punishment. The cut off point appeared to be the end of the fifth form and yes you're right it was a horrible experience at age 15 or 16 to have to stand there getting the backs of your legs slapped.
Not sure about the cane - canings were few and far between but a lot more painful I am sure.
Re: Yes and No
July 24 2002, 7:31 PM
Anthea,
So I take it that this happened to you at age 15 or 16? How embarrassing indeed! I presume that the head would lift up your skirt slightly to do this - or did she simply have you bend over? Did it really hurt that much or was it more of an excercise in humiliation?
Joe
Re: common in the us
July 24 2002, 10:11 PM
I actually have no experiance of C.P. As I was at school in the nineties, I find it hard to imagine being at a school were pupils could be hit by teachers. I don't know why its probably a bit of a stereotype but I have always imagined that boys were caned by the headmaster 'six of the best' and girls were usually put over the headmasters knee and spanked on their bottoms, I find it imposable to imagine anything like that happening to the girls at my school whether it was knickers up or down. Also Sara when you say it was not illigal for male teachers to spank girls bare bottoms does that mean girls of 12 or 13 or did that mean all schoolgirls up to 16 and 17?
Sarajane
Re: Re: common in the us
July 24 2002, 10:40 PM
Joe,
It is not illegal (in itself) for any person to strike another man, woman or child on the bare bottom.
Where it occurs in the school situation, the central questions revolve around the 'reasonableness' of the punishment and whether or not an indecent act was committed.
Georgiec
Re: Re: Re: common in the us
July 24 2002, 11:08 PM
Sorry Sarajane - I'll beg to disagree with you there.
It is highly illegal to strike anyone - with the possible exception of children by their parents reasonably, not sure of the exact legal get-out on that one.
When CP was abolished in UK schools the repealing legislation removed the existing exemption from prosecution for assault where the "assault" took place in a school disciplinary environment. I'll try and dig out the actual wording.
As far as indecent assault is concerned - it has to be proved that there was an intent to assault indecently. I remember one case up here in the NW papers around about mid Eighties where the case for indecent assault against a Headmaster who smacked girls' bare bums was halted when a House of Lords decision in a completely separate case ruled as I have said. The case against the Head was dropped because it couldn't be proved that he was intent on indecent assault when he bared their bums. Just wish I could find the papers - it was in the Liverpool Daily Post and I think mentioned in the Times.
If it's highly illegal for ANYone to strike ANYone, please explain why boxers are permitted to engage in such activities before crowds of thousands and often on prime-time TV.
Also, perhaps you can tell us why we're not arrested for striking our fellow citizens on the back in moments of congratulation?
And then we have midwives striking new-born, defenceless and totally naked babies.
And masseurs . . . and . . . well, you get my point.
P.S. Wasn't the 'other' George rather keen on quoting huge tracts of law at me? Are you related?
Anthea
Reply
July 25 2002, 7:53 AM
It was all done in a very matter of fact way - a telling off, then the instruction to stand at the Senior Mistress' side - she remained seated and with her left hand she'd yank your skirt and slip up a good few inches - almost to your bottom - and then with her right hand she'd smack up and down each leg in turn. In those days we all wore socks up to the fifth form so our thighs were always bare for the slaps. Of course it was embarrassing as it seemed so juvenile - I was 16 the last time I got punished this way and I felt completely foolish. But it did also hurt, I mean it really stung and try as you may you would never be able to keep from crying which of course made it more embarrassing still.
jay
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: common in the us
July 25 2002, 9:23 AM
It is not legal to hit anyone, its a matter of bringing charges.
Boxers use gloves ( should we have spanking gloves) The police choose not to interfere.
Even S & M is illegal between consenting adults.
See you all in Barlinnie with Jockie.
regards,
jay
Sarajane
Re: Reply
July 25 2002, 9:37 AM
Anthea,
The punishment-method you describe is very rare.
It was however completely legal, in no way indecent, and was known about by the several generations of pupils at the school.
Indeed, the school and its senior mistress might be commended for punishing in that way rather than using the cane on the vast majority of occasions when CP was deemed appropriate.
There is therefore no reason why we shouldn't know the name of the school.
Which school was it?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: common in the us
July 25 2002, 9:47 AM
Ah bags the top bunk in ra cell then!
Jockie.
PS. Och aye, an ah want Sarajane tae defend me!
jay
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: common in the us
July 25 2002, 12:12 PM
Whatever happens Jockie I will be the daddy lol
Bet you will opt for corporal punishment rather than being banged up.
Latest news due to equality, Carol Vorderman will be in our cell! Well in a piccy on the wall at least.
regards,
jay
Judith
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: common in the us
July 25 2002, 3:14 PM
Joe,
In answer to your question
Small edit by Nichonette
This message has been edited by larry1951 on Jul 25, 2002 8:27 PM
Sandy
Rubbish
July 25 2002, 4:47 PM
I agree with Judith
Small edit by Nichonette
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Sandy
More rubbish
July 25 2002, 5:38 PM
Small edit by Nichonette
This message has been edited by larry1951 on Jul 25, 2002 8:34 PM
Sarajane
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: common in the us
July 25 2002, 6:17 PM
Judith and Sandy both describe interesting events from a girl's point of view.
Their stories may be different in style but I have no doubt they are alike in genuineness.
beano
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: common in the us
July 25 2002, 8:24 PM
I believe that the law actually says that no-one can hit anyone, except:
1: In self defence
2: A parent punishing a child
3: Some sports, such as rugby and boxing
4: Day to day contact (if I happen to bump into you in a crowd, you can't accuse me of common assault.)
Sarajane
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: common in the us
July 25 2002, 8:45 PM
This whole debate started when I said "It is not illegal (in itself) for any person to strike another man, woman or child on the bare bottom."
What I mean by that is that to strike another human being on the bare bottom will not in every circumstance render the striker guilty of an offence under the law.
Clearly, there are MANY circumstances where doing so would be a breach of the law but my point is that it would not be so in EVERY circumstance - hence my inclusion of the phrase 'in itself'.
Sandy
Wanting to know why I have been deleated?
July 26 2002, 1:39 AM
I don't know why I have been edited out compleatly and accused of talking rubbish, all I did was answer his question by agreeing with Judith that in some schools it was more of a deterent being sent to the headmaster and being told off by him wrather than the deputy head mistress even though the headmaster didn't hit the girls, and she offten did.
And that he once threatened to smack me once when I was six for being on the boys side of the playground and that I wet myself because I was so scared, I wasn't smacked by the way. What have I said to offend the moderator with this contribution?
Joe
Re: Wanting to know why I have been deleated?
July 26 2002, 2:38 AM
I would really like to know if anyone knows of any girls who were spanked otk by a man at school, or if anyone has seen any references to male teachers smacking girls bottoms at school on friends reunited, bare bottom or not. I know it was rare but by the sounds of it not unheared off,
anyone?
Sarajane
Re: Re: Wanting to know why I have been deleated?
July 26 2002, 7:45 AM
Joe,
There are references on FR to male teachers slippering teenage girls but none, as far as I know, refers to the OTK position and none refers to girls being spanked bare by either male or female teachers.
For what it is worth, I once knew a man who opened his own private school and spanked, rulered, strapped, caned and horsewhipped MANY a teen girl's bottom - both pantied and bare.
I should add that his spanking activities were unknown to me at the time I knew him and that the law put a stop to his 'hobby'.
Tarquin
Helston and the infamous Mr Guise
July 26 2002, 10:10 AM
On the excellent www.corpun.com there are lots of references to the Helston case. Where kindly headmaster, Mr Guise spanked two girls with a hairbrush after pulling their knickers out the way. I did read in one of the magazines that deals with that sort of thing that he had them back a day later and made them bend over, knickers down, so he could check he hadn't hurt them too much. Obviously a most humane man.
I think a lot of us would at odd reflective moments like to have been headmasters or headmistress'. However history shows us that there was a price to pay for having ones fun, a small fine in Guise's case.
Most bare bottom spankings by men of adolescent girls will happen in the family. The sexual aspect of such a situation will be apparent to even the dimmest parent. I must admit for myself, if i had a daughter, i should steer well clear of that particular can of worms.
Joe
Re: Helston and the infamous Mr Guise
July 26 2002, 11:58 AM
I know about the cases on the curpun site but there must have been some headmasters who got away with it. Does anyone remember any rumours from their childhood or from schoolfriends etc. of headmasters that smacked girls bottoms with his hand? If it was so rare why would headmasters spanking schoolgirls be such a cliche? its not like six of the best with the cane which was given to boys and the image was just trasfered to the girls as surly headmasters didn't spank boys bottoms over his knee at secondary school so there must be something more in it?
Joe
Sarajane
Re: Re: Helston and the infamous Mr Guise
July 26 2002, 12:19 PM
Joe,
As far as I'm aware, there's no cliche or stereotypical image concerning a headmaster spanking a girl over his knee.
Such images may exist in the fantasy worlds of 'spanking art' and 'spanking literature' but I've never seen such an image or read of such an act in mainstream media (except when it related to the headmaster's being charged with offences relating to same).
Of course, it's imposssible to say that such a thing never happened - just as it's impossible to say that headmasters never took girls into their offices and painted their bare bottoms bright blue. However, if such things did happen, the people concerned have all kept very quiet about it.
Take it from me, Joe - the vast (and I mean the VAST) majority of stories about male teachers smacking teenage girls' bottoms in the UK are sheer fantasy.
Georgiec
Re: Re: Re: Helston and the infamous Mr Guise
July 26 2002, 12:59 PM
Try St Aidan's, Carlisle - the infamous Colin West. Mention there of him "spanking" girls.
Sid 2
Drunk girls dressed in school uniform
July 26 2002, 1:15 PM
I run a pub in the east end, and we get many drunk women dressed in school uniforms whether they are going or have been to a fancy dress party or have been raising money for charity untill the drink got the better of them(Iv'e also seen men ofering tenners if they can spank a St.Trinians girls and been taken up on the offer, Iv'e had put my foot down and stop the procedings) , I have to say in answer to Sarah jane one of the most common responces I get when trying to ask women dressed like that to leave after closing time is 'sorry sir are we being naughty? (amidst fit of giggling) are you going to smack our bums sir?' etc. So yes there is definatly a strong link for them when drunk, and I think it could be described as a very real 'cliche' or 'steriotype', Iv'e also seen similer references in 'Carry on films' 'Confesions of a handy man'type films, Benny hill etc, it must all come from somewhere, no smoke without fire etc...
Anyone else agree with me on this one, anyone got any good examples?
Figure 2 added to nom-de-plume by Nichonette.
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bigJim/Sid 2
Re: Drunk girls dressed in school uniform
July 26 2002, 1:52 PM
Here's a reference to girls getting bottom spankings from a male teacher that Iv'e copy and pasted from friends reunited,
1977 - Mr Green
Added by Angela Overton
Yes, I remember Mr Green! He used to terrify all of us - he once gave my friend Margaret and I a slapped bottom because we didn't know how to recite a poem properly - we were only 7! He would have been locked up these days - why didn't we tell our parents??
This was obviously no big deal so it must have been quite common, This was primary school but I think I've seen other references in secondary school as well, I'll keep my eye out for you.
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Sarajane
Re: Re: Re: Re: Helston and the infamous Mr Guise
July 26 2002, 1:54 PM
As I recall, Colin West, Headmaster of the Lower School. St. Aiden's, Carlisle, was tried and retried in the early 1980's on charges of indecently assaulting girl pupils.
The Crown alleged that Mr. West spanked girls, ages 11 to 14, on the bare buttocks with a shoe and then rubbed their buttocks with antiseptic cream. It had been alleged that most of the beatings had been inflicted in the girls' homes which Mr. West visited with his "punishment kit" consisting of the shoe and a tube of antiseptic cream carried in a cardboard box. Mr. West denied the charges, stating that he spanked the girls with a training shoe on top of their nightwear and had not applied antiseptic cream.
The court heard that in March 1982, two girls were called to West's office because they were not wearing full uniform. West told one to go back to class but detained the other. She told the court the following:
"He dragged me into his office and slammed his door behind him and said, 'I'm going to teach you a lesson.' Then he slapped me across the face. I started crying. He pushed me by the throat and I fell back against the bookcase. He pulled me by the arm and pulled me over his knee. He was kneeling on the floor. He pulled my skirt up and hit me about twice. Then he pulled my knickers down. He hit me across my bare bottom. He kept hitting me until I said I'm telling my mum and dad about you. He put his hands on my shoulders and said, 'I love you more than any other kid in this school. You need not tell your mum what happened.'"
Earlier, the court was told by a mother whose daughter was spanked in her presence that West seemed excited by the beating. "It was brutal," she said.
Another mother who watched West spank her daughter said, "He seemed to enjoy it, but I don't know what he was feeling inside."
Another mother testified that after West finished slippering her daughter, he knelt down beside her and said, "I am sorry, love, I had to do it."
One witness alleged that three weeks after he spanked her daughter, West came to her home to request written authorization to use corporal punishment. She told the court, "He came to see me to ask me to write a letter to say that it had been alright to punish my daughter because one of the girl's fathers was going to have his guts for garters for punishing his daughter that way."
On September 30 1983, Colin West was given a 6 month suspended jail sentence.
He should, of course, have been suspended by the gonads over a slow fire.
Sarajane
Re: Drunk girls dressed in school uniform
July 26 2002, 2:07 PM
Sid,
You're story is UNDOUBTEDLY true and I'm sure the scene you describe can be witnessed in pubs all over the country from time to time, as the spanking (and indeed the bonking) of schoolgirls is a major male fantasy in most countries of the world.
But just as very few mature men ever get to bonk a schoolgirl, so very teachers ever got to spank one.
Wishing doesn't make it SO.
Re: Re: Re: Wanting to know why I have been deleated?
July 26 2002, 3:12 PM
Sarajane,
"For what it is worth, I once knew a man who opened his own private school and spanked, rulered, strapped, caned and horsewhipped MANY a teen girl's bottom - both pantied and bare."
However did you know this individual?
Now surely you can tell us the name of his school, can you not? Indeed, there must be many news articles about his activities, I should think.
Sarajane
Re: Re: Re: Re: Wanting to know why I have been deleated?
July 26 2002, 3:28 PM
Hi Steff,
Let me make it perfectly clear that, when I knew him, I had absolutely no idea about his notorious exploits in the world of education.
Indeed, the context in which I met him and knew him was wholly unconnected with education, children and CP.
I shall be sending you full details by private email but am happy to say that the school was The Greybrook School for Girls in the Northumberland fishing village of Newbiggin-by-the-Sea and that offences occurred in the early 1990's.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wanting to know why I have been deleated?
July 26 2002, 5:11 PM
Thanks Sara,
I have indeed read about this individual and was wondering if he might whom you had in mind.
I had also thought perhaps that the individual in question might have been one with whom you had a series of very earnest conversations, the most important of which occurring whilst he was sitting in the dock.
However, given the years in which this case occurred, I can see that this would be difficult, even for someone as precocious as I'm sure you were (and besides, the name of your law firm would indicate that you don't deal with that type of thing, at any rate).
Interesting as always, Steff
Sid2/bigJim
Re: Re: Drunk girls dressed in school uniform
July 26 2002, 8:14 PM
I think Big Jims F.R insert shows that bottom spanking was happening back then and no big deal as he said,, and also in my pub it seems to be the women who do most of the wishing lol.
Nom-de-plume edited by Nichonette
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allison jones
girls spanked by men
August 8 2003, 11:45 PM
When i went to school in the 60's in the uk, it was common to be spanked up to 14 by the headmaster.
This was usually with skirt up but fortunately petticoats were worn.
A hand spanking was given and I can tell you it was sore.
Re girls spanked by male teachers.
August 16 2003, 1:27 AM
Despite scepticism in ever anecdote, and the comparative rarity, until recently, of course girls have been punished on their bottoms by male teachers. For one very simple reason; many men enjoy spanking females, and therefore there is no doubt that the teaching profession attracted some to their ranks for that reason.
Those who did indulge were usually very cautious and chose their victims carefully and manipulatively. Every now and then things went wrong and often ended in court room revelations such as the affairs at Helston, Carlisle and Northumberland which have already been covered in these forums.
When I first arrived in Brighton around 15 years ago, the Argus was covering a court case surrounding the boarding house housemaster (and his wife) at a girl's prep school in Sussex. My local geography was lacking then, so I can't give particulars. But the gist of the complaints was that the housemasters would spank the girls with a home made paddle (created from formica covered plywood), giving up to eight hard strokes. The girls would have to "bend forward and raise their dresses at the back." Some of the witnesses claimed that he would sometimes pull their knickers down. When questioned about this allegation, he replied that the girls did not always wear regulation knickers, and so when they bent over... their knickers came down on their own. The prosecutor did wonder how females were able to bend over at the supermarket, the library and at work without such an event occuring!
The girls also claimed that he would frequently enter their dorms when they were undressing for bed, and would sometimes check that the girls were obeying the "no knickers under nightdress" school rule. That rule also was useful when on occasions a girl to be punished was punished at night rather than during the day. The girl to be paddled was fetched from the dorm and so when she was to be spanked, was wearing no knickers. When questioned on this he said that sometimes if he had been engaged during the day, or she had, then this was the opportune time to administer punishment, and that sometimes a girl would remember she had no knickers on, and would put a pair on. Although one witness said that when she asked if she could put on her knickers was told that she wouldn't be needing any.
The other astonishing thing was the frequency of spankings. As well as individual spankings, there was a weekly punishment book for each of the years, so most evenings there was a small queue waiting to go into his study. One girl claimed that she was spanked usually every week, at least once every other week, throughout her seven years. I think that comes to around 200 spankings!
The same girl also said that on five or six occasions her offences were considered so grave that he had to consider suspending her and phoning her parents to remove her from the school. This always made her very distressed and he would quickly calm her by saying that he did not want to do this and would rather settle it secretly between themselves with a caning. She said that she agreed to this each time, and she claimed that the canings were very hard and took a long time to complete.
The school matron gave evidence of how she gave almost daily care to pupils with horse shoe shaped weals on their bottoms, who were often "crying with pain and humiliation"
It was also stated that at one time the girls protested at the housemaster admistering the spankings, and asked that the housemistress (his wife) should do so again. But after two weeks they requested that he took over again, because she punished much harder!
During the summing up, it was pointed out that the school publicity brochure painted a rosy glow of "a home from home with love and attention", whereas the reality was a regime of fear with "daily canings".
Surprisingly there was none or very little action taken against him. The school governers said mistakes had been made and new forms of discipline were now in place. He kept his job.
Did he ever paddle and cane again? I bet he did.
Gillian
Re: Re girls spanked by male teachers.
August 16 2003, 1:46 AM
What an amazing story, Jon!
I wonder if the filthy beast is still at the school? Several of our contributors live in Sussex and may know him, or even be him.
It’s not you is it, Miles?
Andrea
Him?
August 16 2003, 5:59 AM
Newbiggin??
This is the guy who ran a very small private school and, after trial was more or less let off - I think he got a very light sentence indeed. Trouble is, my memory's deserted me and I can't remember the guy's name! I remember he said at his trial that he'd been teaching in India and he simply brought their methods back here - i think many of his pupils were actually foreigners.
He resurfaced last year having been "done" for the same sort of thing, this time on much older women. he went to prison the second time around.
Andrea
Karen
Re: Him?
August 16 2003, 8:40 AM
Andrea,
The man’s name is Kevin Booth. His exploits are well documented in ‘Schoolgirls spanked bare in the 90’s? Yes!’. It is currently on Page 5.
Happy reading!
re sussex school
August 16 2003, 8:38 PM
I'm not sure Gillian. Now that I know Sussex well, I should look up the press reports again, find out if the school still exists... and apply for a prospectus!
But the example is one that made the courtrooms; most never did, especially if not over the top, and the perpetrators were careful.
I can certainly relate several personal first hand and certainly second hand experiences of girls being punished at schools in the 60s and 70s, which revealed interesting insights into the teachers minds.
I cerainly believe that many people with a deep desire to spank took up teaching because it gave them an opportunity to satisfy those desires. That doesn't mean that all teachers are would be spankers, obviously most aren't... but most spankers are would be teachers, well perhaps not today when the rules have changed.
I would have made a great teacher. I mean that. I love knowledge and helping others attain the same gifts. I communicate well and have a natural affinity with people. I would have made people feel good about themselves... but I would probably have ended up in court!
Mind you I did teach driving for five years and probably had the best pass rate in England... and I didn't end up in court... despite several female pupils receiving regular sore bottoms. There is a knack. As many thousands of teachers over the years showed!
Gillian
Re: re sussex school
August 16 2003, 9:58 PM
Dear Jon,
As you may have gathered, we have several kinky teachers contributing to our Happy Circle. You are our first kinky driving instructor.
Keep posting!
yes... girls were spanked by male teachers
August 17 2003, 1:29 AM
...er ex kinky driving instructor, Gillian... or should that read..kinky ex driving instructor!
But back on topic, and in reply to Sarajane who claims that wanting to bonk a schoolgirl is the same as wanting to spank a schoolgirl... not quite... one could be made out to be part of the job.
I went to 14 schools due to my father being in the R.A.F. One of my schools in the sixties was in Stowmarket in Suffolk, a co-ed grammar. I was young, a second and third former during my stay.. a real likely lad, cocky and good looking. It was an enjoyable period. We played both Rugby and Association football, we had a cracking uniform ( a black blazer with red and yellow pinstripes), the girls wore maroon tops with grey skirts and a maroon and white striped dress in the summer. And it was a time of awakening adolescence and the East Anglian girls were divine!
But the head had unusual views. He certainly seemed to me, even at that age, to be an extreme misogynist. I recall a time when a friend was showing me a secret love letter which we viewed one break in the privacy of a toilet cubicle. Unfortunatelyone of the duty teachers was doing a sweep and discovered us.
Amazingly we were sent to the headmaster... (perhaps he thought were indulging in gay activities!) We explained to the head why were locked in a cubicle, and he demanded to see the evidence. He read the damning epistle, and then gave us stern but fatherly advice.
"Boys become men and have many ambitions; they work hard and try to achieve them! Girls become women and have but one ambition... to ensnare a man and live of him for as long as she can!"
Regretfully, I never heeded his advice... and have many times suffered as a result! He also wanted to know the full identity of the authoress of the very suggestive tome. Perhaps realising that our behinds were at risk, he quickly divulged her name.
We left unmarked! She however was summonsed and presented with the evidence. That oh so obvious choice.. expulsion or the cane: of course the cane! The senior mistress was recruited to witness that nothing untoward happened, if untoward is the best way of describing a teenage girl having to bend over the desk and lie obediently as her skirt was raised, her knickers were pulled down and twelve strokes of a swishy cane delivered ritualistically across her little white bottom. She relayed the awfulness of it to my friend while "chucking" him for his betrayal.
But that it was a pattern was evident from another incident that happened soon after. There was a new girl at the school. Like me she was staioned at RAF Wattisham (the home of the Black Arrows)and had come from another school. She still wore her old school uniform and so stood out, it being navy blue...including her knickers! She was also tall, sexy and very pretty, and was a 4th former (I was still in the 2nd)
She was not only sexy but precocious with it.. and was discovered with a pupil in the walk in cupboard in the Geography room. They were both sent to the head. Yes you guessed it... he was given a lecture about the differing ambitions of boys and girls... and dismissed with a warning. She was given the same option; expulsion or the cane. Again with the assistance of the senior mistress, she received 12 on the bare bottom with the cane.
This I know for sure because on the bus home, she related to our eager ears the full details and was even enticed to lift up her dress and pull up her knicker legs to show us her weals, on a promise that nobody tell her parents that she was caned.. oh how things have changed! I was fascinated by the marks. A cluster of parallel weals symetrical on both cheeks, then a gap, then re-appearing angrily on her right thigh and hip. Each welt exhibited the traditional tramline effect, lined in blue with the tip raised in a swolen nodule.
It was a friday, important because it was the weekend and the night of the camp youth club. Despite my junior years I girded my loins and asked her out. To my surprise (although I was a very handsome little tyke) she accepted. That evening.. and every moment of the weekend that were able to, we spent together. And every time we found secret places to snog, I also succeeded in getting her to show me the weals again and again.
For the next year, until I moved, she was my girlfriend... a great feather in my cap... nobody had a girlfriend two years above you! But I was not the only one who lusted after her. Yep, good old Head had got away with it. A good bare bottomed caning...and no protest from mater or pater. He just had to pick his moments. And he did. He caned her 4 more times before I sadly left my flatland paradise. Each time I had days of private viewings of the stripes of his lust, watching them change daily in colour and shape. Oh how thrilling the feel, the sights and sweet aromas of my explorations were.
I wonder how many times she was caned after I left; I wonder how many more others he caned before or since. If you wanted to do it Sarajane you could do it... and many did.
Little surprise, Gillian, that I have loved a well caned chubby female bottom ever since... what chance did I have! Mind you, it didn't actually begin then...even before that there was Elizabeth... Elizabeth of the burnished hair and freckles... but that's another story!
This message has been edited by larry1951 on Dec 8, 2007 12:34 PM
Miles
RE: girls spanked by male teachers
August 17 2003, 9:42 AM
No, Mzzzz Browne, it was not. I am not married.
I saw your inappropriate comments to the Friends Reunited Discussion Board last Friday. I sincerely hope that those homely people who manage the site ban you therefrom. You are a disgrace.
Keep posting!
Miles
Gillian
Re: RE: girls spanked by male teachers
August 17 2003, 11:58 AM
Dear, dear Miles,
Just because you look like John Hurt and have contracted a dubious relationship with Lady Karen does not give you the right to suggest that harmless people like me be banned from the wonderful Friends Reunited site.
No hugs, no fuggs,
Gillian
Sussex Spanking School
August 20 2003, 11:31 AM
I'm not sure if it's the same Sussex school you refer to, but I recall a story that was in the Mail on Sunday about 15 years ago of a headmaster of a private school down there who spanked teenage girls. If I recall he used to save up the whackings for a particular day of the week when other teachers were not around and used a ruler on their knickers.
The school was mainly used by parents in the Forces presumably posted overseas.
Does anyone else recall this or have any more details?
InfoProvider
Re: Sussex Spanking School
August 20 2003, 10:23 PM
Handcross Park Preparatory School
To Karen
September 3 2003, 8:25 AM
Continuing my accounts of my experiences at my South East London School back in the sixties, here is what happened in the third year. I can assure you that it is a true report of what took place with no embellishment from my side.
At the school, girls were rarely whacked on the bottom. In fact I only once saw a girl caned. It was an attractive redhead who complained after being given some written punishment that it was unfair that she couldn’t be caned like the boys. We were in the third year so she must have been about fourteen years old. The teacher was a tough Welshman and although he wasn’t our form master, he kept a cane in a cupboard in our classroom. I don’t know if he had canes distributed all over the school or if we were a particularly unruly class but he was always very quick to administer corporal punishment. He also caned pupils in front of the class which was unusual as canings were normally given in the privacy of the headmaster’s study. I imagine that he didn’t need much persuasion to whack this young lady's firm young bottom. Her skirt was not raised but two sound strokes were given which must have hurt.
The only other time I saw girls whacked was during their games period. The girls must have been playing a game such as rounders as the gym mistress was holding what looked like a miniature cricket bat. A few of the girls were misbehaving and the teacher walked behind them and without making them bend over, gave each of them one good hard whack on the behind. They were only wearing gym knickers which didn't offer much protection. All the boys in our class saw this as we were passing by on the way to our P.E. lesson lead by our gym teacher. He must have been impressed because he procured a similar implement for use during the next lesson and guess who was the first one to feel it - me!
Karen
Re: To Karen
September 3 2003, 7:04 PM
Dear Richard,
Our Research Team have a feeling, and they’re not often wrong about these things - sometimes, but not often - that the events you describe took place at Kingsdale School.
Karen
To Karen
September 5 2003, 12:46 PM
No It wasn't Kingsdale but if you would like to e-mail me direct, I'll be happy to tell you which senior school I attended.
Yes Why not
September 14 2003, 11:45 PM
I have taught in schools in 60's yo 80's and what is wrong with it? If a girl deserves a punishment and offence calls for nothing less than bare bottom spanking and caning.. go for it... call the girl infornt of class.. over the table... panties down and sound spanking followed by cane.. nothing sexual need about it.. boys got it... so why not girls... mistress also spanked bare bottoms of boys.. so why cant male teacher spank girls...!
Frankie
It happened
October 12 2003, 1:46 PM
Denis Rice, PE Teacher, Copland School Wembley. Administered the slipper, 6 strokes, formal punishment for recognised (and justified) offence, given on the knickers, recipient female, 1966.
Mr Hartley
My headmastership
October 18 2003, 7:26 AM
In the 80s I was headmaster of a girls' school in South Africa. I had been appointed with a brief to restore discipline to a school that had a record of a breakdown in behaviour in class and of girls causing trouble in the neighbourhood.
I made it clear from day one that I would not spare the rod. In my first year I caned over half the school , some girls getting a second or even third caning. On one occasion I caned 40 girls. I administered all canings in my office in the presence of the female deputy head and head prefect. Girls to be caned were obliged to bend over a table with the deputy head holding their hands at the other side. The canings were received with skirt folded over and knickers down to the knees, the head prefect being responsible for these arrangments. I gave 2, 4 or 6 sharp strokes depending on the gravity of the offence and the age of the offender. Girls of 16 and over inevitably got 6 strokes.Most girls cried because of the severity of the strokes. After a caning a girl had to report to the school matron for treatment - usually cream rubbed in,but sometimes counselling as well. The weals always lasted at least a week and girls were required to pay a second visit to the matron.
The regime worked like magic. Within a few years I rarely had to use the cane more than once a month. The girls treated me as their friend and many thanked me for the canings they had received. Even after they left school they would write to me to say how much they appreciated being caned and how much better women they had become as a result. A few told me that they had asked their husbands to use t