When I attended a girls' secondary school in Ireland in the early 1970s corporal punishment was occasionally administered with a cane. I was caned about two or three times each year. The canes used in the school were long and swishy with curved handles at one end. Canings usually consisted of two strokes on each hand but occassionally three on each hand were given. Canings were usually adminstered in private in a room adjoining the head's office. However, one of the canings I received was in front of my whole form when I was in third form. Miss Boardman, our form mistress, found me and three other girls smoking in the toilets during morning break. After the break she went to each third form classroom to instruct all third form girls to go to the assembly hall. When we were all gathered in the hall, she appeared with a cane. She called me and the other girls caught smoking to the front of the hall and gave each of us six of the best. She gave me the cane on another occasion for ducking detention.

I would be interested to know if other girls experienced canings at school. Were girls in UK schools caned?

You say the canes had a curved handle at one end?

They weren't your typical Irish cane, then (i.e a curved handle at both ends)?

"...corporal punishment was occasionally administered with a cane. I was caned about two or three times each year."

This was what you consider occasional? At my (English) girls grammar school I think the cane may have been used two or three times during all my years there. What would an Irish school have been like where the cane was used often?

And please tell us more about some of your teachers!

Anyone wishing to learn about the joys of an Irish upbringing may like to see "The Magdelene Sisters" when it reaches their local cinema. Peter Mullan’s horrific story of four girls interned in the Magdalene Asylums in Ireland recently won the Golden Lion Award at the Venice Film Festival.

Teenaged girls imprisoned for life in the 20th Century for looking a bit flirty?

No, I'm not joking.

See the film for yourselves and be prepared to shed a lot of tears and forever after carry a sickbag in your pocket in case you accidently pass a Catholic church or catch a glimpse of the Pope on TV.

For over 150 years, the Magdalene Laundries existed to punish young women who had fallen foul of Ireland’s strict adherence to Catholic doctrine. Generations of women were hidden from society and deprived of their freedom because they had become pregnant out of wedlock, because a parish priest decreed they were ‘in moral danger’, or just because they were poor.

With nuns acting as jailers, the girls were cut off from their families and endured slave labour conditions, brutalized and bullied in an institution sanctioned by Church and Government.

Many spent their lives there, to be buried by the hundred in unmarked graves.

The last laundry closed as recently as 1996.

Let me repeat that - the last laundry closed as recently as 1996 and only since has the true horror of conditions in these institutions started to emerge.

Set in the 1960s The Magdalene Sisters dramatizes the lives of three women sent to a Magdalene Laundry as punishment for their ‘sins’. With exceptional performances throughout, it is an indictment of a system that put religious dogma before the rights of its children.

Mullan skilfully manages to avoid preaching or handwringing, and the real strength of the film is that he manages to deliver a powerful statement with such admirable restraint.

I can assure you that English girls were caned at school in the 1960's and 1970's. I went to a direct grant school and I got caned a total of 5 times in my seven years there. Only our Headmistress could cane us, and we were always caned on the bottom. I was caned for smoking, fighting, reducing a trainee teacher to tears, and for not having my school work up to date when I was "on Report".

The Headmistress had two canes, a smaller one about 30 inches long that she used on first years and a 36 inch long cane that she used on others. Both had crook handles and hurt like hell! Normal punishment was 4 or 6 strokes.

I was at a girls' grammar school in London back in the early 1960s and can confirm that the cane was in use. We had a Senior Mistress who administered any canings that were needed and I'm ashamed to say that my own bottom twice received what she always called "the benefit" of a caning.

I'd have to say that the cane was certainly not in use every day of the week or anything like that - indeed the vast majority of girls would have gone through school without ever seeing the cane, let alone feeling it.

Equally I'd have to admit that I deserved it both times - the first when I'd been caught carving the name of my then new boyfriend on my desk with the point of a compass, the second for smoking on the school field at lunchtime.

The cane was, as others have described, crook handled, and both times I got the standard six of the best. Thankfully all canings were administered in the privacy of the Senior Mistress' office, although - like any other girl - I was crying for a long while afterwards, much to the amusement of those girls who loved to tease on such occasions.

What more can I say? It damn well hurt!

Sue P,

Do you attend a school north of the Thames?

I know of no girls’ grammar school in South London where pupils were caned on the posterior.

Yes Billy Biro, it was indeed north of the Thames - and a long time ago!

Billy,

You are far too cynical. I believe every word that Sue P has written.

Sue,

Could you post some more details of corporal punishment at your school?

Nobody has mentioned Scotland yet, but I can assure you that in almost all Scottish schools until the mid 80s, the tawse was in regular use on girls as well as boys. The Scottish tawse is no toy either - it produces exceptionally painful bruising, but the culture was very much 'learn to be brave' and many girls I saw certainly were brave.

K.

It is good to have you with us, Kirsty!

Hugs and fuggs,

Gillian

Can someone confirm exactly how hard girls are caned and was this usually over pants or trousers? What sort of marks were left?

Having gone to an all boys school I'm interested to know how severely administered is a girls caning? Is done full force or a light swing, also was this over pants or trousers and what marks were left?

I would be glad to chat with a mother who got the tawse years ago and is now using such tool with her own daughters.
Of corse no fetish but only real life experiences.
Tony

I was very interested to read of your public caning of 6 strokes of the cane.Were these stroke delivered to the palms of your hands,or to your buttocks?

Regards,

Myles

Yes, I was also frequently punished at school in NZ, where my family lived in the 60's and early 70s.
It was at a girls' boarding, and the girls received a strap either on the hands or across the backs of the bare legs (calves). This really stung, especially when cold, and it left marks 'as an example to others'.
You could receive up to 6, though sometimes more for being caught with pornography, etc. At assembly, if you weren't paying attention properly, as distinct from actually talking, you'd get a flick on the bare legs with a light cane. Once my friend and I, for truancy, received 6 across the backs of the legs with a thin cane, and it really did hurt! For days afterwards, when getting up or sitting, the weight put on the legs caused excruciating pain.
It was no picnic getting strapped on the hands in class either. This was usually for talking, disobedience or lying. At the boys' boarding school, in another suburb, where my brother attended, they used the cane, often on the bare, though frequently on the hands or clothed bottom.
Any other girls ever get leathered or caned around the legs? What were your thoughts about it?

I can confirm that there was a South london girls grammar school which used the cane in the 50s.
I had a 15 year old girlfriend who bunked off school for the day so that we could go out together.I forged a sicknote from her mum but we had been seen and she was sent to the head. I can confirm quite categorically that she received six strokes of the cane across her knickers for her trouble at the end of afternoon school. I met her from school and she was in floods of tears and when we were back in her home I saw the marks which were very severe thick ridges and worse than I had seen on boys when I was at school. It took nearly three weeks for them to fade. This was my first experience of punishment being given to a female and in retrospect was probably the start of my interest in the subject.She told me that canings at the school were not frequent but always severe when given
So to any of you doubters, this WAS a true experience, the school is still in existance, albeit at a new location.I still bump into the girl occasionally, she is now married with grandchildren and has told me that the caning was a significant moment in her life and will never be forgotten.

Would you please tell us at which school your girlfriend was caned.

Our Research Team are guessing at Honor Oak, Peckham Rye.

I can confirm that it was not Honor Oak school...sorry

I am wary of giving an actual name after some of ther legal problems at Friends reunited but it was a girls grammar school in Catford which has now been demolished and moved to another location and the wore a navy blue and white uniform. Sure you will be able to guess from that if you know the area.

Thank you, swampy. You are almost as prim as dear old Fran of Wembley.

We know the area well. Captain John Harris, a flagellant much written about on this forum, often appeared as M.C. for the wrestling bouts at Catford Town Hall.

As you can see, we take great delight in naming names, but we promise not to disclose the name of the Girls’ Grammar School.

I was caned as a third former during my first year
as a 13-year-old at a New Zealand all-boys high school. The punishment was administered by a pys ed
master who seemed to delight in causing us
almost unbearable pain (usually six strokes at a
time). We were made to wear only the barest of
essentials -- thin cotton PT shorts without
underpants and sandshoes (plimsolls) without socks.
He knew how to cane, leaving raised painful wheals as his trademark. The cotton shorts offered no protection whatsoever.

I was caned at school only 20 years ago. I was caught cheating in a history exam and sent to the headmistress of my all-girls' boarding school in Wiltshire. She made me admit what I had done. I apologised but she said apologies were pointless.
I had to remove my school blazer and she removed her gown. She made me bend over her desk and then lifted up my skirt and folded it back. She took my knickers by their elastic and pulled them up tight. She tapped my bottom with the cane several times as she lectured me on the wickedness of what I had done. She announced I would receive six strokes and I had to count and thank her after each stroke.
I cannot describe the pain I suffered. In all the years since then I have never felt such pain. The marks stayed with me for over two weeks.
At least I never cheated again - not until I got married, of course !

I read with interest your message asking whether a girl was caned at Honor Oak School. Although the answer was no, I can promise you that at least one girl who attended this school was given a sound spanking on her bare bottom. I was the one who administered it!
I should add that this did not take place at school but in my bedroom and with her full consent so it hardly counts as corporal punishment. Nevertheless I thought that this might be of interest.
I am a newcomer to this group but I have already picked up that there seems to be a reluctance to believe any accounts of girls being caned on the bottom. My schooldays were spent at a S.E. London school in the early sixties and although girls were rarely caned, I did witness this on one occasion. A full account will follow which I assure you will be a true report of what happened

I should have mentioned that my previous message should have been addressed to Karen.

We look forward to reading your future messages, Richard.

We accept that girls were caned on the bottom at school, but tend not to believe accounts of girls being caned on the bare bottom.

There was a girl named Antoinette, known as Toni, who was a pupil at Honor Oak. She was into mild flagellation. Was it her that you spanked in your bedroom?

No it wasn't Antoinette although she would have been welcome anytime.
You must have known her well or did she make no secret of her particular interest?

I knew Toni very well indeed when we were children. She liked to play spanking games.

As an irregular poster I am intregued by some of the doubts cast regarding experiences of girls receiving corporal punishment.I think that many posters are judging events by present day standards whereas those of us who were at school in the 40's and 50's know how different things were then. My lifelong passion for CP and all of it's conutations was moulded by my experiences at that time.
South London primary school in late 40's, most teachers had a hard slap. Regularly, the order was given to "fetch the cane and book" from the headmistress and on return it was one across each palm for boys or girls.Fifty odd years on I can still hear the swish and the crack now.More serious offences meant being punished by the head, a fearsome spinsterly lady, and it was always three on each hand.On a couple of occasions heads canings were administered in front of the school and I recall one where two girls and three boys had bullied a boy who had a leg caliper and they all got three on each hand.
Moving up at eleven I gained scholarship to a very good grammar school where the cane ruled absolute. Every master had either a cane or slipper which were in regular daily use in the classroom. Being sent to the head for any reason produced only one punishment, a very hard caning. Blazer off, shirt and vest pulled out of trousers and bent over, touching toes. Minimum was four, normally six, often eight and I did hear of the odd twelve. I suffered many times and the excrutiating pain still lives with me as does the sight in the mirror and on other boys of thick purple weals which stayed around for several weeks.I have never had the slightest desire to repeat or to switch !
As for girls, YES they were caned ( see my earlier post) at many schools and would often talk about it at youth club etc.Often today, at a dinner party or such, the topic of modern lack of discpline often arises and someone from our age group will always bring up the old school days and quite often one of the women will talk about a caning they had at school in the 50's.
Going back futher, my mother once told me that she was regularly caned at school back in the 20's as she often had to miss school to help at home.
Sorry for the long post but I have to say to some of the younger ones, living in this discipline free, human rights dominated society that all of these things did happen 40 or 50 years ago. I could give many more examples but fell that I have said enough for now.

Of corse [sic] Tony, no fetish. Get a f****** life mate!

yea ithink so

was it on the bare bottom? do you think the headmistress enjoied it?

I was caned 3 times during my school years during the 1960s. The cane was administered by the headmistress in the privacey of her office.
She had two canes in a tall cabinet on the right of her desk, both had the crook handles.
I received 3,4 and 6 strokes respectively the times I visited her. We were caned across our bottle green school knickers and she could really send you back to class with a well striped bottom and in tears.
Caning was not a regular occurrence compared to my brother's school were it was almost a daily event.

I attended a lancs grammar school. The cane was given to boys on their clothed bottoms for serious offences or repetition of offences. Girls could be caned on the hand but rarely were. There was a general assumption that boys needed the cane periodically but girls did not.

Hello to everyone; I've just joined this interesting forum and would like to add my experience to this thread. I attended Worcester King's School in the early '60's and a few of us were friendly with some girls from the Alice Ottley School in Worcester. In the summer we used to meet up most evenings after school on the riverbank just as a group of friends. We were around 14 years old at the time. One evening one of the girls started to tell us that she had been caned that morning and after a bit of persuasion she lifted her skirt and pulled her knickers aside to show us the marks. I had been caned myself not that long previous and could tell from the red stripes that it had been done quite strictly. She had been caught smoking and had been warned before. The caning had taken place in a private study and she had to bend over the end of a desk. I can't remember if the headmistress did it, but the schoolmistress who did lifted her skirt out of the way and then gave her six strokes on top of her knickers. She said that it really did sting and she cried. When she showed us, the stinging had subsided and she was quite proud of the marks. I certainly enjoyed looking at them.

An amusing little story, Tony.

Pity there's not a word of truth in it.

How can you say that when you were not there? I was trying to make a serious contribution to the thread by giving an account of a real event. I agree I only have the word of the girl that it was done in school, but I believed her at the time. Perhaps she was lying and her father had done it, but there is no doubt that she had been caned. Personally, I only call someone a liar if I have a reason to do so.
The Alice Ottley school and the King's School are still there and in the 1960's there was strict discipline imposed in both schools.

there are a lot of fantastic stories and this may be one but see no reason why yours should be dismissed offhand-quite usual on this forum (to be dismissive), I believe..did you find the experience very erotic?

Thanks for your interest. I didn't think it was much of a story. I only posted it to confirm that girls did get the cane. It was a long time ago and I was only 14 but I did enjoy looking at her bare legs and cheeks as she pulled her knickers to one side. I was a bit late in getting interested in girls and didn't have a proper date until I was 17 years old; I was looking forward to getting a motorbike and when I was 16 did become part of the 1960's 'rocker' scene. I suppose the girl concerned was a bit of a tease and enjoyed the exhibitionist part of showing us. We used to meet in the evenings as a group of friends at that age so there was nothing sexual ever happening. There is a website for both the Alice Ottley and the King's school. I am a member of the 'old boys' club, and am an 'Old Vigornian' named after the Latin name for Worcester.

I think people do believe that girls have been caned in the not too recent past and indeed there is no reason offhand to doubt your story. There have been legitimate concerns about the extent and magnitude-many of the stories do not appear credible-howver seeing that only people who are interseted in CP contribute, we are certain to get an above the average number of female CP incidents posted anyway. It is not incredible that after having been caned a girl may enjoy a certain amount of exhibitionism either

I'm not certain whether this forum is interested in fact or fantasy? I think that if anyone has doubts about a post being genuine then they should take the time to find some facts to show this to be so. The story that I posted was genuine and I did name the school that the girl went to, unlike some other posts.
I do have another story which confirms to me that the cane really was used at the Alice Ottley School for girls.

Please post your story that confirms to you that the cane really was used at the Alice Ottley School for girls.

Nobody's saying the cane wasn't used at that school.

It may or may not have been, but that's not the point.

The point is that Tony's story is a load of bollards.

It never happened.

I think Lotta Nonsense is making genuine people like myself think "Why should I bother?" The site will miss out on hearing interesting factual stories which surely was the original point of the site? If Lotta Nonsense has evidence that a story is a fiction then he or she should explain why. For example, Lotta Nonsense originally said that there was no truth in any of my story. I can at least prove that I lived in Worcester and went to the King's School. I know the girl was caned because I saw the marks. I said previously that I believed her, but she could have been caned by her father. However,the way the other girls talked at the time it appeared common knowledge that she had been caned at school.I cannot actually prove that the girl in question was caned as I lost touch with all my old school friends when I left the area. I will repeat what I said before; I don't call someone a liar unless I have proof.

I do not particularly care whether the stories on the site are fact or fiction. They are all well written and interesting.

I wish Lotta Nonsense would find himself a new name and occupation instead of trying to discredit stories posted onto this site. Is lotta Nonsense a cynical oldie who regrets not having gone to the right school to witness CP on a daily basis or are they so young that they cannot remember a time before mobile phones and childrens rights. There were no childrens rights in the fifties and sixties, most kids just kept quiet about what went on at school for fear of receiving some further punishment at home.

I can go even one better. I once received 6 cuts on the palms from the headmaster for smoking. He was reknowned for his ability to use the cane. I then had to go immediately to PE, but had forgotten my house singlet, so the PE master gave me a further 6 cuts, very similar to the headmaster in severity, but this time on the soles of my bare feet. I then had to do 4 laps of the adjoining oval - in my bare feet - to reinforce the punishment. I then went home, but got another 4 cuts from the headmaster next day for truanting.

Girls at my comprehensive in wiltshire were caned on rare occasions as were the boys. Must confess to experiencing a call to the Headmasters office during a history lesson some 22 years ago at the age of 15.

I was mystified as to why I was called as the incident had happened some weeks before. All became clear when I was informed that I was seen out in the local village during school time which I couldn't deny. Things became a whole lot worse when I smirked when asked for an explanation. What happened after was like a bad dream....This was in the mid eighties when caning was almost at an end and I never for one moment thought that it could happen to me.

My Headmaster calmly went to a cupboard and produced the cane. i couldn't believe my eyes but assumed he was just showing it to me as a warning. He then deliberately left it on the desk and told me to wait there. He left the office and I just stared at this bamboo stick which was long with a curved handle and fairly thick. i just stood there frozen. He came back after a minute or two and I realized it was serious when he brought in my form mistress who smiled sympathetically.

I was then informed that I should be ashamed of myself as I was to become the first girl to be caned in over a year. Believe me I was trembling in fear at this point. He picked up the cane and told me to stand in front of the desk with my hands on it..At first I thought he was going to cane my hands on the desk but then he stood behind me and before I knew it there was a whack on my bottom. There was no pain for a second or two then I had to let out a loud ouch..I had to stand up straight after the 2nd and after being told to resume the position the 3rd really had me smarting so much that I cried.

My tutor then said 'we're sorry it had to come to this Belinda' and the head put the cane away (never to be seen by me again). I was told to go back to class but it had finished by the time I got there. I wandered round in a daze that lunchtime. It still hurt even though I didn't get hit particularly hard.

The worst thing was that in assembly the next day it was announced that 'a pupil' had been caned yesterday and the reason why. Our head of year then said had she not found it so amusing a detention would have sufficed...Of course the word 'she' gave it away and knowing i'd been sent out of class the previous day most people in my class put 2 and 2 together though I denied it.

Altogether an absolute humiliation but i would still advocate bringing back the cane today. I certainly never smirked or answered a teacher back again.

Thank you for reading,
Belinda

Thank you for sending in such a nicely expressed account, Belinda. It is possible that you have the honour of being the last girl to be caned in a Wiltshire school.

Hi Belinda. Interesting story. Would love to chat further. My hotmail address is kagoul.

I know a woman who was expelled from a convent school in the early 90s. She's hinted darkly that she was caned often but given no details. Can anyone confirm that caning went on in RC schools as late as this?

If such punishments took place, the school would have had to be outside the state sector and caning would almost certainly be done on the hand.

It was a Catholic private school in the northwest. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. She said she hated it at the time but she came to appreciate when she got into S and M. At my state school the cane was just a myth.

Yes Belinda there were girls schools in wiltshire where the cane was used right up until it was abolished!

Really Pete? Which schools were these? I was not at a girls school but a mixed comprehensive. I won't say which one as I don't wish to be pinpointed.

The worst stories I heard about physical punishments were from people who attended catholic schools,run by both nuns and priests.
But it was usually not the cane used but a leather strap across the buttocks for boys and on the hands for girls.
And in catholic orphanages it was even worse,along with other physical abuses.
I know this because I've talked with many of these victims who were at these schools and orphanages.

The only type of punishment that was commonly used in girls schools after say the mid 1970s were thigh slapping and slippering across the knickers. These could only be administered by female teachers.

All these stories of severe canings are on the whole sheer nonsense. Although it is possible that some occurred but it would have been very unlikely.

Why unlikely Kelly, look at Corpun.