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Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 19 2003 at 12:36 PM
 

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Hi. I'm from Malaysia, and I'd like to share a bit about school corporal punishments in Malaysia.

In Malaysia, there are 3 types of primary school: Malay school, Chinese school and Indian school and also National Secondary schools.

I'm from a chinese primary school, and in chinese schools, the teachers use the cane a lot more than Malay schools and Indian schools. In primary school, caning maybe administered by any teacher, and caning is the main form of punishment (even for small mistakes), so almost every student will have been caned in their primary school life. The teachers don't care whether the student is a boy or girl, as long as they dd something wrong (like not doing their homework, being talkative in class etc). Canings are mostly administered on the hand, although students (both boys and girls) are sometimes caned on their bottom, when they commit serious offences, repetitively do the same mistakes, or refuse to show their hand before their caning is finished (like when the teacher decides to give him/her 8 strokes, and after the 4th stroke, if the student refuses to show his/her hand due to the pain, the teacher will cane the student on the bottom). And yes, in primary school, canings are administered in front of the class.

In secondary schools, caning is also used, but only for serious offences or repetitive offences. In secondary schools, caning (no matter boys or girls) is done privately in the principal's room, by the principal (or someone else appointed). In secondary schools, mostly it is boys who get caned. It will be extremely embarrasing if a girl is caned in her secondary school years. In secondary schools, canings of boys are done on the bottom, while for girls, most of the time, it will be on their hands, but sometimes on their bottoms too. I myself did experience canings on the bottom, which is not only devastatingly painful, but also extremely humiliating, when the news is spread about. News will spread around because if you're sent by the teacher to see the principal to receive canings, the teacher will ask another student to witness the event.

In Malaysia, canings on the bottom of students are done on their school uniform. We are never caned on our bare behinds. However, for girls, sometimes we are asked by our teachers to remove the shorts which we wear under our school pinafore (most of the girls will wear bike shorts, or other types of shorts under their school pinafore to provide comfort and security), because our school pinafore material is thick. We can't refuse it, if we refuse, the teacher will either pull the shorts down herself or ask another girl to pull it down. I think the teachers feel that canings on the pinafore + bike shorts + knickers will be ineffective, but for me, even with my pinafore, bike shorts and knickers on, I still feel it is extremely painful. I can't imagine if was caned with the bike shorts removed. However, I do witness a few events of my friends being asked to remove their bike shorts, and after the caning, they are sobbing like hell.

And yes, in Malaysia, spanking on the bottoms are not done, because it can be considered a sort of sexual harrassment.

That's about my experiences in school corporal punishment in Malaysia. Do give your views. Thanks!

Lee Sze

 
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Roger

Re: Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 19 2003, 10:04 PM 

Dear Lee Sze,

Thank you so much for your amazingly comprehensive account of corporal punishment in Malaysian schools. You are, I believe, our first contributor from South East Asia.

Could you possibly explain further the notion that spankings may be considered sexual harassment, whereas the pulling down of a girl’s bicycle shorts by a teacher before a caning is administered appears to be acceptable practice?

 
 
Robin (not Peverett)

Re: Re: Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 20 2003, 7:01 AM 

Dear Lee Sze,

Yours is a really super post and so nicely written. Is English your first language?

 
 
C. Nickel

Re: Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 20 2003, 8:05 AM 

There is nothing more suspicious that a spankophile claiming to be from Malaysia and, indeed, this contributor's English is so good that his/her alleged Malaysian origins appear even more doubtful than might otherwise be the case.

However, it is my extremely pleasant duty to inform the board that Lau Lee Sze is a fluent speaker of a Malaysian language and that he/she contributes to a Malaysian bulletin board every posting upon which is written in that language.

I strongly suspect therefore that this contributor may be 100% genuine.

Now, if readers will excuse me, I have to go away and lie down in a darkened room until the shock wears off.

 
 

Re: Re: Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 20 2003, 8:21 AM 

Hi. Thanks for your compliments. Actually, English is just my second language; chinese is my first language, but in Malaysia, we put quite a lot of emphasis on English too.

Actually, I also don't really know how to answer Roger's question. Well, I think spanking is considered a type of sexual harassment, because the teacher is using his/her hand to hit the boy's/girl's bottom, which means there is some 'contact'. Maybe it can be considered a type of molest?

As for the teacher pulling down the girl's bike shorts before caning, I must say it is seldomly done, only when the girl is really naughty, bad, or always commit the same mistakes. Until now, I only saw female teachers doing so, I never saw male teachers doing so. If male teachers were to cane girl students, normally they will just cane them as they are, to prevent being sued for sexual harassment. Even if they really want to pull down the girl's bike shorts, he will ask other girl students to pull them down. I think it isn't considered a sexual harassment because it is females who pull down the girl's bike shorts, not males.

Besides that, when the girl pull down her bike shorts, or is being pulled down by the teacher/another girl, it is just being pulled down. It is not that her skirt will be lifted, her bike shorts pulled down (which reveals her knickers), then her skirt being put back again. Instead, if the girl pulled down her bike shorts herself, she will bent down a little, put her hand under her skirt (pinafore), pull down her bike shorts and put it on the table, without revealing any 'sensitive' parts or clothings of her body. That's why I don't think it is considered a sexual harrassment. But I do think if I'm the one who is asked to pull down my bike shorts, I'll be extremely embarassed. If really told to do so, I'll just commit and pull it down, because the consequences of not commiting are your bike shorts being pulled down by others, being caned heavier and more times. So far, everytime I saw girls whose bike shorts are being pulled down and caned, they will be crying for the whole day.

Any comments?

Cheers,
Lee Sze

 
 

Re: Re: Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 20 2003, 8:37 AM 

Hi C. Nickel. I'm actually quite sad that you alleged me of not being a Malaysian.

Yes, I know my English is quite good.. but that doesn't mean that I'm not a Malaysian. Besides English, I also speak Chinese and Malay. English is more widely used here than u all know, especially among the chinese and indian communities here. In fact, we read english newspapers, study a lot of things in english too.

I must admit that I have a lot of fond memories towards school canings. In the past, I really hate school canings, and I'm very afraid when I know I'm going to be caned. It's so embarassing for girls to be caned, especially when I'm a top student in class. But as time passed, and I no longer receive the canes anymore, I started to miss them. It's quite strange isn't it? And I must admit that I am a frequent masturbater. In fact, I started to masturbate after my first caning in primary school. That morning, I was caned on my hand, and the whole day, I felt very 'strange', because the caning was so painful and I felt so embarrased at school. When I slept in the night, I don't know how (maybe I was dreaming), when I woke up, I was actually touching my clitoris, and it felt so nice. Since then, I started to masturbate and have fond memories of masturbation and caning.

Please, I'm really from Malaysia... And don't doubt me about it!

Lee Sze

 
 
C. Nickel

Re: Re: Re: Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 20 2003, 8:51 AM 

Hello Lee Sze,

If your English were just a little better, you'd realise that I was not doubting your Malaysian origins.

On the contrary, I was saying that I thought you entirely genuine .

 
 
C. Nickel

Re: Re: Re: Re: Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 20 2003, 9:00 AM 

I should add that I use the expression 'entirely genuine' to refer only to nationality and geographic origin.

In the original postings, it wasn't clear whether Lee Sze was writing as a male or a female, although it's now clear that Lee Sze writes as a female (surprise! surprise!)

As ever, gender must be taken on trust - or not, as the case may be.

 
 

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 20 2003, 2:43 PM 

Hi, why is it so strange for me to be a girl??

Lee Sze

 
 
C. Nickel

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Corporal punishment in Malaysia

June 20 2003, 4:03 PM 

Mainly because you have a penis and two testicles.

 
 
Karen

Keep posting, Lee Sze!

June 20 2003, 7:50 PM 

Hello, Lee Sze!

I do hope that you are not discouraged by the comments of C. Nickel who is a highly valued contributor to this forum, but can, on occasion, be a little cynical.

Would you tell us in which years you were caned at school? There are a few press cuttings about Malaysia at corpun.com on the subject of the possible re-introduction of corporal punishment in its schools. Has it, in fact, been re-introduced?

 
 
Not an Anonymous Donation

Re: Keep posting, Lee Sze!

June 20 2003, 10:40 PM 

I have learnt a great deal from the messages of Lee Sze and her command of English is better than many of the stupid BASTARD contributors for whom it is their native language.

 
 
James Stephenson

Going home

June 22 2003, 11:09 AM 

Dear Lee Sze,

Thank you for a fascinating insight into your country. I was wondering, when corporal punishment was widely used in the UK, most schoolchildren would not tell their parents when they'd been caned or belted either because they were ashamed or because they didn't want to risk getting more punishment at home. I get the impression that family is much more important in countries like Malysia and I wonder whether children feel any kind of obligation to own up to their parents at such times? How do parents view their sons or daughters having been caned?

James

 
 
squirrel

now just a moment...

June 22 2003, 10:31 PM 

Is it really entirely acceptable for people to come on here from the colonies and start banging on about their clitoris? I for one don't wish to hear about such things.

 
 
Not an Anonymous Donation

Re: now just a moment...

June 23 2003, 3:28 PM 

I agree with the encyclopaedic squirrel. This is not a clit forum. People who want that sort of stuff should go to the F/F Lesbianating Group at Yahoo.

Only a few months ago we had some foul fellow who thought that our happy circle was a minge and green knickers forum and look what happened to him!

Keep posting, squirrel! Together we shall rid this forum of all that is base and BASTARD.

Lee Sze: Would you please tell us what colour knickers you were wearing when you were caned at school?

 
 
47david

Malaysia

June 23 2003, 7:43 PM 

Actually what I have noticed is that our charming young correspondent from Malaysia said she is from a primary school. Now it may be that the age range of primary schools is different from those in the UK, but even so she seems to use extremely mature language for a primary school pupil. Emotionally mature too in being able to speak so tellingly about her feelings on being beaten. Anyway I think an international flavour is a good thing - I think those of us in the UK where school spankings have been abolished should share our experiences with those from other countries where CP is still used - Swaziland anyone? There was a very telling programme on Channel 4 a couple of years back which had scenes in which schoolgirls were caned on the bottom as a matter of course - did anyone else see it?

 
 
Darwinian Man

Re: Malaysia

June 23 2003, 8:50 PM 

I myself, personally myself, did not see the programme myself. (I have just been reading ‘The Eamonn Andrews Show’ again.) For those who are members of the rather dubious Yahoo Group, JCP-Female, there are photographs of the black bottom canings to which 47David refers.

 
 
Gas Mask Wearer

Black Bottoms

June 23 2003, 10:11 PM 

Black bums! I love them! I once had a short liaison with a seventeen year old black girl called Josenthia. She looked like that woman from the 70’s sit-com called something like Bugger your Neighbour. She used to wear pure white cotton knickers and seeing them against the contrast of her shiny black skin was more than a man could stand. She loved to be spanked and we would act out scenes from The Memoirs of Dolly Morton. She would take twelve of the cane on her black, black arse without a murmur. God, it’s hot in here.

She eventually went off to make piccaninnies as they do, and I miss her.

 
 
Gas Mask Wearer

Re: Black Bottoms

June 24 2003, 10:19 PM 

A good bit from The Memoirs of Dolly Morton can be found at


http://spankmemories.com/free/samples/books/bibooks.htm

 
 

Sorry for the late reply...

June 27 2003, 10:14 AM 

Hi. My last caning was last year, when I was in Form 3.

According to the Ministry's directive, there are a few rules about caning, among them are:

1. Caning can only be done on boy students
2. Caning must be done privately and properly recorded
3. The student can only be caned on his hand or his bottom with his clothings on
4. Canings can only be given by principals or someone authorised

Eventhough the ruling says like this, not every school follows it. In primary schools, caning has always been something normal, like I said in my first post. It's a common sight for boy and girls to be caned.

In secondary schools, girls are less likely to be caned. Most of the time, it is boys who are caned. But caning on girls still happen occasionally.

In Malaysia, eventhough we as girls should not be caned, when we are caned, we never tell our parents about it or report to the police about it. That's because it's very embarassing to be caned, and our parents will normally side the teachers, and give us another few more strokes. So, caning is still normal and never cease in Malaysia.

Well, I think the posts that Karen saw in Corpun is about the reintroduction of public caning, because many teachers actually hope that public caning is revived. But until now, public caning in secondary schools is still not administered, while public caning in primary schools has never ceased.

That's all!

Lee Sze

 
 

Re: Going home

June 27 2003, 10:21 AM 

Hi James. Actually, there are 2 types of families in Malaysia (like everywhere else): the modern type and conservative type.

In modern families, most parents pamper their kids, and if the kids complain that they have been caned, the parents will always side their children, eventhough they are really wrong. Some even go to the extent of going to school and beat the teacher who caned his/her children.

Children from modern families, on the other hand, almost never tell their children about being caned in school. If they tell, most likely they will be punished more.

I myself come from the conservative families. I never told my parents that I was caned. Once in my primary school years, my mother discovered that my hands were red and showed signs of caning, when I told her that I was punished at school for not doing my homework, I was caned again by my mother... So for me, it's really not a good idea to tell my parents about my canings in school to avoid further punishmenet!

Lee Sze

 
 

Re: Re: now just a moment...

June 27 2003, 10:27 AM 

Hi. Actually I am quite surprised about why you suddenly ask me about the colour of the knickers I wore when I was caned at school.

Normally, I wear white knickers, sometimes pale pink, pale cyan or pale blue colour. And the bike shorts that I wear are normally black, but sometimes, I wear red and also dark blue bike shorts.

But I don't think the colour of my knickers matter, because we are never caned with just our knickers on. The most we can get is just our bike shorts pulled down!

Lee Sze

 
 

I'm in secondary school...

June 27 2003, 10:30 AM 

Hi David47. I'm currently still studying in secondary school, in Form 4. I never said I am still in primary school! And here in Malaysia, the English of the people (especially Chineses) are very good already at this age!

And Gas Mask Wearer, I have to say that I'm not black. I'm not a Malay, I'm a Chinese.

Bye!

Lee Sze

 
 
Proud Member

Re: I'm in secondary school...

June 27 2003, 7:01 PM 

Dear Lee Sze,

Could you possibly explain the term ‘Form 4’? Until a few years ago in England the expression ‘fourth year’ or ‘fourth form’ would indicate that a pupil therein was aged fourteen to fifteen. Nowadays, however, this age group is known as ‘year ten’.

If you are of such an age, may I congratulate you on your use of our language. We have many fifteen-year-olds in this country who are unable to write their name the same twice.


 
 
Gillian

Re: Re: Re: now just a moment...

June 27 2003, 8:56 PM 

Dear, dear Lee Sze,

Not an Anonymous Donation is a crass oaf. He is, however, one of our most distinguished writers and there is irony in his message.

Many of our contributors are obsessed with the colour of knickers. The messages from Fran of Wembley, which are considered essential reading, are of great interest to compulsive masturbators.

Hugs and fuggs,

Gillian

 
 
Meilong

Caning in Malaysia

June 28 2003, 4:51 AM 

The Straits Times recently reported:

Education Minister Tan Sri Musa Mohamad said he was looking into the possibility of empowering teachers with the disciplinary powers of school heads.

At present, the power to cane students is with the school head. Discipline teachers can also cane students provided they get the written consent of the school head.

This is provided for in the Education Regulations (School Discipline). The regulations also forbid the caning of girls.


Note the last sentence.

Would Ms Sze like to comment? Did she (if she is a she) get caned in spite of the regulations forbidding the caning of girls?

As a Chinese (educated in England)and familiar with Malaysia, I take Ms Sze's letter with a huge pinch of Chinese salt.

If talking about spanking and caning turns you on then let her letters do so, but do not think for a moment that they are the work of a genuine Malay, or a normal or truthful girl.



 
 
Seth

But Gas Mask ...

June 28 2003, 8:11 AM 

The trouble with a black bottom is the lack of visual satisfaction one gets when whacking a white bottom. No weals. Well, you can feel the corrugations in the hot flesh but it's not the same.

Is that the reason why our Empire Builders were over-zealous caners of black people?

 
 
Gas Mask Wearer

RE: In Secondary School;/But Gas Mask...

June 28 2003, 2:24 PM 

Silly Sze! (How the hell do you pronounce a name like that? Size? Sass? Sex? Parnell?)

I know you don’t have a black bum. Not many Chinese people do. I often fantasise about small, neat, cheeky yellow bums. I hope to god you’re not fourteen. Although on second thoughts, here’s a bit of Tennyson I learnt at a school similar to George’s St. Pant’s.

“When she told me she was just fourteen
I was twice as keen”.

Seth - You’re even more of pervert than I am. Looking forward to reading your posts on British Spank.

 
 
C. Nickel

Re: RE: In Secondary School;/But Gas Mask...

June 29 2003, 7:07 AM 

I assume the name is pronounced 'lowly size' but readers are reminded that a small penis is still a penis.

Please be realistic, gentlemen - you have more chance of finding the Holy Grail at a local car boot sale than you have of finding a Malaysian schoolgirl who (a) is into caning and (b) has navigated her way to this site and (c) is prepared to give you chapter and verse re the contents of her knicker drawer.

It's time to wake up and smell the testosterone.

 
 

what is the length & the width of the cane use,?

June 30 2003, 4:06 PM 

Dear Miss LAU,can you tell me what is the length & the width of the cane that use on you.??& how many lashes you get the last caning.???

 
 
Brian of The Naze

Re: what is the length & the width of the cane use,?

June 30 2003, 11:26 PM 

Yes Miss Sze I would also like to know the asnwer to this question, its an intersting one. Do you also know alot of friends who have been caned like this? Do you know what boys PE is like?

 
 

How was the caning done.????

July 3 2003, 2:02 PM 

Dear LEE SZE,i am a singaporean,in sec 5,i have not seen a girl received a caning before.Can you tell me how is it done.??You tell us,your last caning is in last year,can you tell us why you got caned.?,What type of cane they use.?Must you bend down before caning.?I think you can remember quite clearly.!One more question is,is it very painful.?Can you take all the strokes in one go or jump up & dance around every time the cane land on the buttocks.?Lastly,are you able to sit down after the caning.?&For how long did the cane mark appeared,after the caning.?2 days.?or more.??

 
 

Still no reply.??

July 4 2003, 2:42 PM 

Dear Miss LAU,why no reply.??????we are still waiting for the answer.!!!!!!

 
 
Ron

Re: Still no reply??

July 7 2003, 12:44 AM 

Enter Lau Lee Sze into Google and examine the hits you get, then you won't be surprised at no reply.

 
 

Why still no answer.???

July 10 2003, 4:10 PM 

Dear MISS LAU,why still no answer.???A few more question,which state of MALAYSIA you study.??IS Your last caning is given by a female teacher .??Is it painful.??How many stokes of the cane did you received.??Is it painful.??Are you able to take all the stokes in 1 go or dance around when every stoke lands on the buttocks.??Lastly,how long does the pain & cane marks stay.??I THINK YOU CAN REMEMBER QUITE clearly...Do reply,thanks.!!!

 
 

Missing in action.??

July 30 2003, 4:22 PM 

Dear Miss LAU,seems like you are now"MISSING IN ACTION",no reply from you,no new story.By the way,since you got caned last year,have you change your behaviour.?Did you get caned,so far this year.?Don't be shy.!P/s reply.

 
 
man in a suitcase

CANING IN MALAYSIA

August 22 2003, 5:03 PM 

It's hardly surprising that the lady has got tired of replying. Several of you have insulted her, doubted her etc. Malaysia is part of the Commonwealth for God's sake, and whilst 'The Sun' might think this is an old-fashioned conecpt, it still exists, and learning English is important to young children in Asia. After all, how else can they understand what's being said on MTV?
I had a relationship with a Vietnamese lady many years ago, who was regularly beaten at home and in school, and her description matches almost exactly that which has been on these pages.
Scpeticisim (Skepticism for our N American readers who cannot cope with English English), is healthy, but cynicism is something else...

 
 

Re: CANING IN MALAYSIA

August 31 2003, 6:06 PM 

Hi. I'm sorry for my late reply. My modem broke down, so I hardly get a chance to go into the internet.

Yes, you're right. Actually, I feel very sad and insulted when many people accussed that I made up the stories, not a girl etc... Maybe at my age, I might seem over matured, but I must say that in real life, I'm a normal girl, with lots of friends, playing around happily. It's just that this is my 'private' feelings, which I dare to share here because nobody will know who am I here.

Mei Long is wrong, in fact, I doubt whether she herself is a chinese. Because if she's a chinese, she'll know that Lau is my sirname and not Sze. We chineses have our surname in front, not in the back.

To Veron, I'm from East Malaysia. My caning last year was administered by the principal. He is a male. The cane he uses (and most other teachers use) seems to be from a loop (the loop which we put near our waist and turn) made of cane, sawed, and then wrapped with a thin layer of masking tape. Last year, when he caned me, I was given 6 strokes with my pinafore, bike shorts and knickers on (nothing was removed). I was never asked to bend down. I just stand very near the principal's table, with my hand holding the edges of the table, while the principal caned me. It was extremely painful, and the sound produced was very loud, however, I still managed to take it in one go, almost sobbing after the caning. If not for my pinafore, which is made from quite thick material, and also an additional protection from my bike shorts, I think it'll be ever painful. The marks lasted for almost a week, and sored for almost a week.

Lee Sze

 
 
Roger

Re: Re: CANING IN MALAYSIA

August 31 2003, 6:21 PM 

Welcome back, Lee Sze!

I have added your name to the Friendly List.

 
 

Demerit points system.

September 2 2003, 1:26 PM 

Dear LEE SZE,i am very glad you have your computer repaired,i missed you alot.Can you tell me,do your school have the demreit point system.?I mean that,the caning you received,is it base on a few offence you commited ,you get a certain number of points,then your teacher will tell your headmistress about it & action taken will be a number of strokes of the cane,is it in this way.?Another question is,does you headmistress tell you before the caning,the number of strokes she intended to give you or she just ask you stand beside her table & started to cane you until she is happy with it.?Does you have a choices of the canes you going to get.?I mean the length & the width of the cane.Lastly,where you want received the caning,plams or on the bottom,where do you prefered.?

 
 

Another question.

September 2 2003, 1:35 PM 

Dear LEE SZE,very sorry,i left out 1 more question.After your last caning,i remember you said it is very painful,so after that 6 strokes of the cane,did it you changed to a good girl.?to prevent yourself getting another caning.?I hope so.!

 
 

Re: Another question.

September 3 2003, 5:24 PM 

Hi Veron. No, my school doesn't have the demerit system. However, some of my neighbouring schools do have this policy, like students who accumulated 25 demerit marks will be either caned a few strokes, asked to do social work, sent to counselling or have their parents seen.

My school just cane whenever they feel necessary. Last time, when the principal caned me (He - not she. Male teachers in our school can cane girl students too, because no direct contact have been done), he just told me that he is going to cane me, took out a bunch of canes and asked me to choose the one I want to use, then came over and caned me. He didn't tell me how many times he is going to cane me. Sometimes, the principal will just cane students without asking which cane to use, when for example, the principal is waiting at the schoolgate, and whoever entered the school late will be asked to show his/her palm, and then given 2 strokes.

About whether the caning which I received last year made me turn into a good girl, well, I have always been a nice girl. I have always been the top student in school. Last time, I was caned because I feel that it's not necessary to do so many exercises for a subject which I have mastered so much, for example, mathematics. I'm not the kind of student who smokes or fights in school. I'm a top student, quite obedient, polite, cheerful and very popular in the school. I'm also a senior prefect in my school and most teachers's pet. That's why I feel extremely embarrased and sad when I was caned. That's because news that a top student, what more a senior prefect being caned is quite a new incident in the school and it spreaded very fast. It has been the hot topic of the school. Many people came and asked me how was the caning like.

If I were given the chance to choose where to be caned (we don't have the choice), I'll choose to be caned on my bottom instead of my hand. The main reason is that, if you're caned on the bottom, your parents won't know that you have been caned. If you're caned on the hand, there is a higher possibility that they will see that your hand is bruised or red, question you, then give you another series of caning. However, being caned on the bottom is quite an embarrasing news when spreaded over the school, because canings on bottom are only administered on extremely bad or naughty students, what more when the bottom of a girl (which is considered quite private) is caned.

About whether caning on the hand or on the bottom is more painful, I don't have any idea, because when my principal cane on the hand, it means that he is not that angry, so he don't use all his force when he cane. However, when he cane on the bottom, he is very angry and will use his full force. In fact, besides the pain of the cane, the 'explosion' sound of the cane landing on the bottom (together with the pinafore and bike shorts) is very 'terrorising' also.

Lee Sze

 
 

FEAR.!

September 4 2003, 2:23 PM 

Dear LEE SZE,from the replies you gave me,it seems like your school uses the cane now & then.!If a good girl like you can be caned like that,i think the bad student must have get the cane everyday,is there any others girls received caning like you did.?I think,you are in"FEAR" everytime you step inside the school compound.From the pain,marks & the sound produced by the cane,i can imagine the lenght & the width of the cane,it is at least 100 cm long & at least 1 cm width,right.?LEE SZE,if you fear the caning so much,why don't you change school.?If you can't change school,i suggest you wear 1 more extra underwear to school,a 'PETTICOAT'[underskirt is also known as] will give you the extra protection when you commited another offence,which you know you will get another caning.!!!!

 
 

Sorry, i left out another question.

September 4 2003, 2:33 PM 

Dear LEE SZE,i left out 1 more question,you mentioned that before you principal caned you,he never tell the student how many strokes he is going give,right.?So when he caned a girl,he usually gave her 6 strokes of the cane.?What is the maximun strokes of the cane he gave to a girl.?Thanks.

 
 

Re: Sorry, i left out another question.

September 4 2003, 5:03 PM 

Hi Veron. Yes, my school uses the cane quite often, but most of the time, for minor offences (like being late, having long nails, forget to bring books), the caning given by the principal or discipline master is not that hard. It hurts, but not very much. I think these canings serve more to remind the student, create some form of embarrasment so he/she will change, instead of inflicting physical pain.

For girls, I seem to be the first girl to be given the serious caning. That's because after the caning, when I was asked to sign the caning-record book, I don't see any other girl's name in it (Canings which I mention above for minor offences are not recorded). I don't know why, but maybe because the school puts very high hope on me, that's why they punished me heavily so that I won't sink even further. Besides that, I think the school caned me to warn other students too that they might be caned too if they commit the same offence.

I never go and measure the cane, but I think it should be more than 1 meter long right? Isn't 1 meter too short for a cane? I think it's about 1 cm in width though.

Eventhough my school uses the cane a lot, and I myself has tasted the cane before, but I never feel the fear. I love to go to school a lot. I never considered of changing school, I think my school is very good and I have lots of friends (and admirers) here. Plus, there are some guys here which I actually like!

I never think of wearing the petticoat. I feel very comfortable wearing my school uniform with my bike shorts and panties. Sometimes, I don't wear my bike shorts though, especially when the weather is hot, or when I don't feel like wearing it. However, I do feel worried if I am being 'peeked', because I'm known as one of the prettiest girl in school and many guys admire me!

Lee Sze

 
 

You are a very brave girl.!

September 5 2003, 2:14 PM 

Dear LEE SZE,from the view i see,you are really a brave girl.!Many girls like me wears extra underwear to school after a caning to prevent receiving the same thing happening.!I wore under my skirt,a petticoat,short tights & pantyhose to reduce the pain,just "in" case the principal wants to cane me.!when i buy undies,i make sure i buy the "Nylon" ones,because the "Cotton" ones give less protection.!I admire you because,you said that "Somedays i don't even wear biker shorts to school".What happen if you get caned on that day.[the day you did not wear your biker shorts]?I belived it will be even more painful ,right.?By the way,after getting 6 strokes of the cane on last year,did you get anymore caning this year.?If yes,what is the reasons for it.?How many strokes you get this time.?& it is more or less painful than the last caning.?

 
 

Re: You are a very brave girl.!

September 5 2003, 5:44 PM 

Hi Veron. Thanks for you comment, but I don't think I'm considered brave because sometimes I don't wear bike shorts to school. Sure, if I get caned on the days without bike shorts, it will be more painful, but I don't think the difference will be a lot, because the material used to make my pinafore is quite thick. Plus, it won't be sensible to put away the comfort, just because of the fear of getting caned, which is quite rare right?

Well, about the panties, I always buy cotton one. Isn't it cooler with cotton one, plus to me, I feel that nylon panties are normally worn by girls which are considered quite 'hot'???

Yes, I've been caned a few times this year. Once is because I'm late for 30 minutes to school. I was called by the principal to his room, then he gave me around 3/4 strokes. This time, it was not as painful as it was last year. I and my friends also received some caning on the hand, normally 2 strokes, by the principal/discipline master when we forgot to wear our name tags or when our finger nails are long. But the canings are not that painful. These type of canings are a normal incidents in our school.

Lee Sze

 
 

Misunderstood.!

September 6 2003, 4:24 PM 

Dear LEE SZE,I think you misunderstood,the "Nylon" panties i bought is not those lacy,high leg cut,V-shape type that wore by models.!It is a buttocks-shaping girdle i refer to,this type of girdle is not known as those "HOT" type you know.By the way,is your pinafore looks like those flared skirt with pleats behind.?If yes,i think it is not the same design as mine.Mine is a A-line pattern,same style as those office girl wear,except in dull green in colour.So if i wear those V-cut panties,the pantyline can be seen very clearly from behind.!That is why i wear a petticoat & a short tights below it so that the men would not"Stare"at my behind.Another thing i would like to tell you is the next time you get caned, don't take all the strokes in 1 go,even you can bear with the pain,because your principal will think that the strokes he gave you is not painful enough.!So he will use the MAX force in every strokes.When i get caned,i would shout"OUCH" & dance around whenever the cane lands on my buttocks,so that my headmistress would go "SOFT" on the next stroke,I was once told by her that she would gave me 6 strokes of the cane,& because of this "Acting" i received only 2 hard & 1 soft strokes of the cane,so remember to act "Weak".!By the way,which state of E-malaysia you stayed.?KUCHING,K.K.,MIRI,SABAH or ?????

 
 

...stamford bridge

September 8 2003, 10:25 PM 

...fascinating! How are you settling in at Chelea?

 
 

er...

September 8 2003, 10:28 PM 

...er...that's Chelsea (before my spelling is psycho-analysed).

Sort of lost it's spontaneity, hasn't it?

 
 

"Good students" getting caned

September 23 2003, 1:07 AM 

Dear Lee Sze,

Two things occurred to me on reading your post:
1. I recall the very unfair idea that some kids were not expected to be caned. It was expressed subtly by teachers and kids: "Fancy you ...". The basis of this discrimination wasn't clear to me: it seemed to be some combination of schoolwork and behaviour. Sometimes this meant getting let off by a teacher ... but this usually resulted in some retribution like bullying for not particular reason by the other kids ... sometimes it was "I didn't expect you to get caned" ... but said with what I recall was an immense sense of satisfaction. I recall losing out either way ... it was an alienating experience for me, without what I judged to be the cameraderie that kids who were expected to get the cane were able to share in.

2. My parents made it pretty clear to me that they didn't give me space to get caned. So when it happened I remember going to great lengths to keep them from finding out. It was all right for them to get the cane when they were kids, and you would expect it of the kid next door, but it wasn't expected of me. I guess that's why I writing in this forum, just to be able to relate (albeit 50 years later) to a group of people who accept that anyone can get caned, that it's a normal experience and that it doesn't make you unworthy of your place at the dinner table.

Mike

 
 
Veron

Are you still around.?

November 26 2003, 1:13 PM 

Dear LEE SZE,it is a long time did not hear from you,are you still around.?

 
 

Caning

January 3 2004, 3:01 AM 

Hi Lee

I was interested to read your message about caning in Malaysian schools.

I grew up in New Zealand where the cane was used in high school. I was caned twice and received two strokes on each occasion.

How many strokes did you receive when you were caned? Did it hurt very much and did you manage not to cry?

My e-mail is nswmoose@yahoo.com

Michael

P.S. I now live in Australia

 
 
Veron

Forget about her.!

January 4 2004, 12:55 PM 

Dear MIC,forget about LAU LEE SZE,i also lost contact with her since 2 months ago........Regret.

 
 
Veron

Forget about her.!

January 4 2004, 12:56 PM 

Dear MIC,forget about LAU LEE SZE,i also lost contact with her since 2 months ago........Regret.

 
 
Joanne Lim Ee Wei

From Malaysia too

January 10 2004, 4:53 PM 

Hi there,

I'm from Malaysia too, and I have to disagree about the part where National schools and Tamil schools don't feel the cane as much. I am from a National school, in primary school the cane was used for anything, poor results, talking, etc. Some teachers caned for getting, say more then 3 wrong in any test or 10 question tests. In Tamil schools sometimes the teachers go too far to even punish the kids until the parents sue the school.

Best regards,
Joanne Lim

 
 
Veron

Your school.

January 11 2004, 5:55 AM 

Dear JOANNE,Does your school also caned GIRLS,like what LEE SZE gets.??Any comments about LEE SZE"s forum.?Are you also from EAST MALAYSIA.?

 
 
Joanne Lim Ee Wei

Re: Your school.