School Rules
Section 13
Corporal Punishment

13.1
The school's objective is to provide its students with a caring
environment in which they can maximise their personal development. The
continuing good behaviour of pupils is essential if we are to achieve
this, and they are expected to comply at all times with the Rules set
out in this document.

13.2
Where pupils breach school rules, a range of disciplinary measures are
available to staff. These are designed to achieve the twin goals of
deterrence and punishment - seeking to prevent offences from
occurring, whilst also imposing retribution for any misbehaviour.

13.3
Standard disciplinary measures include lines, detentions, withholding
of privileges (e.g. grounding) and other punishments as may be deemed
appropriate by individual masters.

13.4
The Governing Body is clear that any behaviour that may cause serious
disruption to the school environment should be treated as a matter of
the utmost concern. In such cases, discipline shall be administered by
means of corporal punishment.

13.5
Corporal punishment may be used at the master's discretion in any
circumstances where other forms of discipline are not believed to be
likely to prove effective. This may include, for example, correcting
the behaviour of 'repeat offenders', and dealing with cases of
insolence or insubordination.

13.6
There are also a number of more serious offences for which corporal
punishment is mandatory. These shall include:
a. Possession or consumption of any form of tobacco, alcohol or drugs
b. Cheating
c. Truancy, including any absence from school premises without
permission
d. Inviting non-school-members onto school premises without permission
e. Use or threat of violence to other pupils (including bullying)
f. Sexual activity of any nature
g. Any activity which causes public damage to the school's reputation
h. Any criminal activity.

13.7
Certain of the offences in 13.6 may be deemed to be serious enough to
require additional measures such as suspension or expulsion. It is
noted that corporal punishment is mandatory even if such additional
measures are being taken.

13.8
Any prefect or member of staff may determine that corporal punishment
is the appropriate measure in any given case. However, corporal
punishment may only be administered by the Headmaster, his deputy or
by the pupil's own Housemaster. All offences requiring corporal
punishment should therefore be reported to the student's Housemaster
in the first instance.

13.9
Corporal punishment should be administered in private, although where
a number of pupils are to be punished for the same offence, they may
be punished together.

13.10
All punishments should be administered using the cane. Masters who are
required to administer corporal punishment will be provided with canes
by the Bursar's Office.

13.11
Any sentence of corporal punishment shall carry a minimum of three
strokes and a maximum of eight, per offence, at the discretion of the
master administering the caning. Multiple offences may be dealt with
during the same punishment session.

13.12
Prior to administering corporal punishment, the master concerned shall
clearly explain the offences for which the punishment is being
administered, and shall require the student to sign a standard
Punishment Form (Part 1).

13.13
All punishments must be applied to the pupil's bare buttocks. For
mandatory punishments (13.6), the pupil should be required to remove
all items of clothing. For discretionary punishments (13.5 above), it
is at the discretion of the master administering the punishment to
decide whether the pupil is allowed to retain any items of clothing.

13.14
To receive their punishment, the pupil may be required to position
themselves over an appropriate piece of furniture (e.g. desk, chair),
or may be required to bend over and touch their toes.

13.15
Pupils shall be required to remain in the position specified by the
master for the duration of their punishment; they shall not flinch or
touch their buttocks, and shall remain silent (other than as required
by the master - e.g. counting strokes). Additional strokes shall be
awarded at the master's discretion for any infringement.

13.16
At the end of the punishment, the Part 2 of the Punishment Form shall
be completed, and this shall be signed by the student. A copy should
be sent to the Headmaster's Secretary, a copy should be retained by
the student, and a copy may be sent to the student's parents or
guardians at the sole discretion of the master who has administered
the punishment.

13.17
In conclusion: corporal punishment is an essential means of
maintaining a stable and successful school environment. It will used
fairly, to correct the most serious misbehaviour, in full compliance
with these rules.


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And she closed the rulebook.

Sniffed.

Wiped the tears away from her cheeks.

Heart pounding.

Surely not? After a school career unblemished in any way.

And absence from school premises. A so-called mandatory offence. With
all that entailed.

But…..

No. No. She would argue. She hadn't been feeling well. Had to pick up
a prescription from the pharmacist. Her Housemaster would believe
that.

Surely…?

This couldn't happen to her.

Good girls don't get caned….

Do they?



PART II

As Caroline Edward's Housemaster, I would be the first to admit that
she had a lot going for her. She was bright, intelligent, and hard
working, and also had a delightful sense of humour that could, and
often did, liven up a lesson. In so many ways she was more mature than
her 18 years, but sadly in one respect she was letting herself down.
Since she had entered the 6th form Caroline seemed to find it
increasingly hard to defer to authority, a characteristic which I
suspected would serve her well in later life, but which right now in a
school environment was making life difficult for my colleagues and
myself. She so easily could have been a model pupil, but, as it was,
with no little regret, I had to conclude that Caroline Edwards was
prejudicial to the good discipline of the House.

It was not that she was a habitual breaker of the school rules; indeed
her record was probably better than most. The problem was one of
attitude. Caroline openly gave the impression that she thought school
procedure was some sort of child's game which should not really apply
to her and that she was only humouring those in authority by
conforming, that she was above day-to-day trivialities of school
discipline.

The way she talked to staff, for example. Pupils in the 6th form were
encouraged to strike up a rapport and not be afraid to speak their
minds, but Caroline, of course, had to go just that step further to
the point where banter becomes downright rudeness. Twice within a few
weeks teachers had approached me complaining that Caroline's manner in
addressing them had embarrassed them in front of younger pupils. After
the third complaint about over-familiarity, I knew I had to take
steps.

I hoped I could nip this in the bud before it became a major issue,
and anyway I really did not want to let on to Caroline that she was
beginning to get under my skin. Accordingly, although sorely tempted,
I did not summon her for a formal dressing down, but waited until the
next time she slightly overstepped the mark in my presence. I then, in
a very calm and collected manner, politely suggested to her that she
was doing just that, overstepping the mark.

"Please, Caroline, just tone it down a little. I know that it's just
the way you speak and that you don't mean anything by it, but you
really do need to think about how you sound to someone who knows you
less well than I do. Other teachers are starting to complain to me"

Unfortunately, she failed to take the hint. The following week I found
her in the corridor in earshot of all passers-by having a robust
conversation with a junior member of staff in typical Caroline style.

"Of course I know that you're the teacher and that I'm here to learn
from you. But …."

One look at my colleague told me that the time had come to abandon the
softly, softly approach, and so I butted brusquely and loudly into
their conversation.

"Caroline, I warned you last week about your manner when talking to
staff. Since you appear to have taken no notice, I'm afraid that I am
going to have to adopt a more robust approach. Lunchtime detentions
are not normally events that affect senior members of the 6th form,
but the next time the list goes up on the noticeboard, you may expect
to find your name on it."

And when my young colleague had moved out of earshot I added, "Why, oh
why, do you have to put me in a position where I have no alternative
but to punish you? I know perfectly well that that you're not a bad
girl. For goodness sake, just learn to grow up a little and accept
that you're still bound by normal pupil/teacher relationships."

"Sorry, sir" came the reply but with rather too much of a glitter in
the eye to convince me.

Hoping a detention would do the trick, I duly placed her name on the
list as promised and thought little more about it, the organising of
detentions being a job delegated to one of my assistants. It was not
until Friday of the following week, the designated day for lunchtime
detentions, that I was forced to give my attention once more to the
matter. Early in the afternoon the teacher who had been supervising
the detention reported back to me that Caroline had failed to attend.

"The list was posted on Wednesday as usual", she told me, "so she had
absolutely no excuse."

I sat and pondered the situation for a few minutes. It seemed clear
that something fairly drastic was required in view of what could only
be regarded as a deliberate flouting of authority. My mind, therefore,
started turning to School Rule 13.

Whilst the cane featured firmly on the statute book, so to speak, it
was used only sparingly. On average, I administered no more than one
caning per term, and the same was true of the other Housemasters. None
of us liked having to resort to using the final deterrent, indeed
being forced to do so was in a sense an admission of failure. What was
not in doubt, however, was the effectiveness of the stick,
particularly when applied to a girl. It was a matter of fact that no
girl so treated had ever re-offended. Rule 13.13 was the reason of
course. Girls coped with the pain at least as well as the boys, but
the humiliation of having to lower or even remove their knickers in
order to present their bare bottom for the cane was an experience that
nobody was prepared to have happen to them more than once.

I wrote a note to Caroline Edwards instructing her to come to my study
at 8.30 that evening, and with a view to making her aware in advance
that she was in serious trouble I added a further directive that she
make herself familiar with School Rule 13 beforehand. The note was
duly despatched by hand of the duty prefect.

Having made my decision and acted upon it, I sat back and mused on the
oh so effective bare bottom rule. It had originally been introduced
many years before girls were admitted to the school at a time when
caning was much more prevalent. There had, I gathered, been a number
of instances where boys had suffered severe, long lasting bruising
after a caning, and so it had been decided to replace the traditional
heavy rattan with a much thinner, whippier instrument, which whilst
hurting no less – many said its sting was worse than the bite of the
heavier instrument – did not result in more than superficial damage.
The fact that trousers and underpants needed to be removed in order
that the full whiplash effect be felt was not actually an issue at the
time. Even the requirement that all clothing be removed for the more
serious offences was merely seen as a way of extending the ritual of
the occasion and thus further impressing upon the boy the seriousness
of the matter for which he was being punished.




The knock on my door came at 8.30 prompt. I called "come in" and
Caroline entered the room. She was wearing full school uniform of grey
pleated skirt, black tights, white blouse and maroon sweater.
Everything was immaculately pressed and overall it was clear had gone
to some trouble to look as smart as possible. I motioned her to an
armchair where she sat and nervously pulled at the hem of her skirt
while I deliberately went on with my work for a couple of minutes to
increase the tension. Finally, I got up from behind the desk, went
over and made myself comfortable in the armchair facing her.

I had already decided that my objective in caning Caroline was more to
hurt her pride rather than her backside. That being so I was going to
take my time about lecturing her and preparing her for the cane; I
wanted to make the whole process as ritualistic and nerve racking for
her as possible. It also occurred to me, for example, that even though
she would know that she was in line for a caning she would not know
the degree of severity I had in mind nor, and this was one of the key
benefits in the way Rule 13.13 was written, how much clothing I would
insist she take off..

"I'm afraid this isn't going to be a pleasant interview", I began.
"You do, I suppose, realise why I've sent for you".

A flicker crossed Caroline's face as if to say yes I do. This
surprised me momentarily but I quickly realised that having had the
afternoon to think about this interview she must have remembered about
the detention. It was not until later that I realised exactly what was
going through her mind at that moment.

"No, sir, I really don't know", she replied firmly.

I had decided to be succinct and to the point. "That is precisely the
problem. You really don't understand that attending a a detention is
not optional, and in fact that failure to attend is downright
insubordination and way beyond the bounds of the licence we afford 6th
formers. Well, your attitude has got to change and I now am literally
going to impress that upon you. A short, sharp, and, yes, frankly
humiliating lesson is what you need."

A momentary look of relief crossed her face, again inexplicable until
her rather more heinous crime subsequently came to light.

She hesitated a moment and then somewhat lamely said, "Oh, I'm
terribly sorry, sir. I had some urgent work to finish and I must
simply have forgotten."

I did not deign to reply to this clearly invented excuse. I merely
handed over a copy of the School Rules to her.

"Right, Miss Edwards, you've already had the chance to study this. Now
tell me in your own words what rules 13.4 and 13.5 say."

She was silent for a moment and then slowly began to stutter. "T-that
the c-cane can be used to discipline anyone causing s-serious
disruption. That you have discretion to use the cane if you think
other punishments are unl-likely to be effective."

"And what particular offences are singled out as examples of serious
disruption", I prompted her.

Another pause. "Insolence and insubordination, sir." She then seemed
to regain some composure and became more like the Caroline I knew and
was resolved to punish. " But, sir, this is ridiculous. I'm 18. Surely
there has to be another way. You're not really going to cane me, are
you?"

"Well, you're certainly right in one respect. It is ridiculous. It's
ridiculous that you've got so big for your boots that I've being
driven to use extreme methods. But cane you is what I'm going to do!
In strict accordance with the School Rules! So let's carry ongoing
through them, shall we? Rule 13.11 please."

"You can award between 3 and 8 strokes."

"Correct. Now Rule 13.13"

Caroline sat up straight at this point, squirmed and turned red.
"Speak up, Miss Edwards."

It came out in a whisper. "That the punishment is applied to the bare
buttocks, sir"

"Go on"

"For mandatory punishments all items of clothing have to be removed.
And for discretionary punishments the master decides how much clothing
has to be removed."

"Correct again. Now remind me, under what category does insolence and
insubordination come, mandatory or discretionary? You'll have to look
at rules 13.5 and 13.6."

Caroline hastily looked back at the rule book. "It's discretionary,
sir."

"That's right. Go to the top of the class!" I paused for a moment and
took a deep breath before carrying on, deliberately and pompously. "So
all in all, the school rules are telling me that I have limited
discretion in this matter. I am obliged to give you between 3 and 8
strokes of the cane across your buttocks, I am obliged to make you
bare your buttocks for the cane and that the only real discretion I
have is in deciding which of your other clothing you are allowed to
keep on."

Conscious that I was now about to add salt to the wound I added, "I
use the word ‘other' of course because the rules appear to mandate
that whatever is to happen to the remainder of your clothing your
skirt and knickers will not be remaining where they presently are."

She looked at me imploringly, but I was determined to give nothing
away at this stage. Then again she seemed to regain some of her normal
forthrightness.

"But surely these rules were written in the old days before girls were
admitted to the school. I know I have to accept you have the right to
cane but I just can't believe that girls are made to take their
clothes off for a caning. That really can't be right! Anyway I
certainly won't ….." At this point she looked up, and seeing the
determination on my face checked herself.

"You certainly won't what? Certainly won't do what I tell you, is that
what you mean?" I now started to raise my voice. "Miss Edwards, let me
make it perfectly clear. If you do not do precisely what I tell you
over the next few minutes, then we shall be going to the Headmaster.
And if we do that, be under no illusion. It will result in your
expulsion and goodbye to your chance of getting accepted at Oxford.
NOW STAND UP."

For a moment I thought she was going to protest again. However, her
eyes fell and she rose from the chair and stood in front of me.

At this point I have to admit to a certain satisfaction with the way
things were going. Caroline's reaction was precisely what I had hoped
it would be. And I will admit that, having myself suffered, or at
least been inconvenienced, at the hands of this girl, the position I
now found myself in with her pretty well totally at my command was not
unpleasant. Teachers are only human after all.

"Right, then. I haven't yet made my decisions, but one thing that we
can certainly be sure of is that you will not be requiring your
tights. Take them off and put them on the table over there."

I saw her look slowly from side to side as if she was still unable to
believe what was happening. "Is t-there somewhere I can go to change,
sir."

"Miss Edwards, don't try my patience. If you want any chance of being
allowed to preserve some dignity I strongly advise you to do as you're
told."

Caroline's face reddened again but it appeared that she had now
accepted the reality of the situation. She took off her shoes and then
set about her tights as instructed. At first, she tried to lower them
without raising her skirt but quickly discovered the impossibility of
this. In the end, realising there was no alternative, she leaned
forward, lifted the back of her skirt up to give herself access to the
waistband of her tights, and tugged at it with a wiggle of her hips.
The whole operation was then completed in seconds. Down came the
tights, her skirt returned to normal position, and balancing on one
foot and then the other she took them right off.

Odd, I reflected, about the first part of this charade. I quite
understood that in the normal course of events an 18 year old would
take great care to avoid her Housemaster seeing her knickers, but in
view of what she knew was to come it scarcely seemed worth the effort.
In any event she had not succeeded. In the few seconds her skirt had
been raised I had had a semi-opaque view of the garment that lay
beneath them. Conventional white briefs so far as I could judge, but
all would be revealed shortly I thought to myself.

She now stood in front of me bare-legged but otherwise perfectly
dressed. She was, however, beginning to look positively discomforted
by the position she found herself in, and, presumably, by what she
knew was to come. I got up from the armchair, walked back across the
office and sat down at my desk beckoning Caroline to some and stand in
front of me at the opposite side of it.

"Right, Miss Edwards, I have decided not to be too harsh with you on
this occasion. I propose to give you just four strokes of the cane in
the hope that that will be sufficient to make my point. However,
before we can begin there are more preparations to be made. Take off
your skirt and place it neatly with your tights."

At first it looked as if she was about to say something, but clearly
she thought better of it, and instead took a deep breath and, turning
away from me, began unfastening the side buttons at the waist of her
skirt. She then pulled down the zip at the side seam and slowly
lowered the garment to the floor, stepped out of it, picked it up and
walked with it over to the table at the other side of the room, then
returned to stand in front of me. The tails of her blouse, freed from
constraint, had come down over the top of her thighs, with the result
that, aside from her red face and flustered demeanour, she looked like
one of those semi-risque adverts one sees for ladies' clothing. Not
for long, however.

"You can consider yourself fortunate that I am not going to make you
remove any more of your clothing. Your sweater and blouse may remain
where they are provided you roll them up well out of the way."

It was as she complied with this that I had my first clear view of her
knickers. Medium cut briefs that at the front finished just above the
pubic hair line and at the back pretty much covered her buttocks.
Plain white, in sharp contrast to her face.

Without saying anything further at this time, I rose and extracted a
cane, a thin crook handled job about 3 feet long, from the cupboard
behind my desk. Swishing it firmly through the air I moved round
slightly behind Caroline. I spoke again.

"I now want you to lower your knickers as far as is necessary to
expose your buttocks, and then place your hands on your head."

All the swagger had gone out of Caroline now. She was obviously
acutely embarrassed – as well an 18 year old girl might be – simply at
having to stand in front of her housemaster with skimpy knickers the
only covering below waist level, let alone having to take her knickers
down. A last despairing "But Sir" came from the girl. Her hands then
went to her waist and then back to her sides, but eventually she
seemed to recover her nerve, gingerly pushed her knickers down to the
top of her thighs as required and put her hands on her head.

I studied her buttocks for a moment. Just on the flabby side of firm
it seemed to me. She was fortunate that I did not intend to cane her
hard; I suspected that they would weal and swell extensively under a
full bloodied attack. I laid the cane against them and saw her tense.

I returned to my chair the other side of the desk, sat down and leaned
back, by no means displeased with the view in front of me. It crossed
my mind that there could be few more effective ways of instilling some
humility into a rebellious 6th form girl than having her stand before
her Housemaster has with her thick, black triangle of pubic hair
exposed to his gaze. The few minutes I proposed to keep her standing
like this would do her no harm at all.

I reached into one of the drawers in my desk, withdrew a piece of
paper, attached it to a clip board and took a pen out of my pocket.

"There is, of course, just one further thing before I actually apply
the cane. The formal Punishment Form to complete. You can do the
writing, I'll dictate where necessary."

I then handed her the clip board and the pen.

"First, fill in your name."

"Now the description of your offence. Insubordination will do.
Punishment awarded. Yes, that's right. Four strokes …. of the cane of
course. Today's date. And myself as the master administering the
punishment. ………… Right please sign it in the place provided for the
pupil. And now hand it back to me."

I signed it with a flourish and then put the board down to the side of
my desk.

"Good. All formalities are now over. Move forward to the edge of the
desk, bend over and grasp the far edge."

As she positioned herself again, I rose, picked up the cane and walked
back around my desk to finish up behind her. I think she must have
been conscious that a girl, when bent over, even with her legs firmly
together, tends to show at least some of what lies between them.
Caroline was clearly making a great effort not to, visibly straining
to keep everything tight and closed. I could, of course, have
instructed her to place her feet apart, but I decided that enough was
enough on this occasion; I was confident that my point was made
without adding further to her embarrassment.

I lined the cane up, tapped it a few times on her buttocks in order to
add to the tension, and raised it to head height. I then brought it
down, hard enough to make the frightening whish sound, but not so hard
as to cause enormous pain. It landed with a satisfactory cracking
sound, and Caroline duly let out a half grunt, half cry, and drew her
buttocks even tighter together in a semi-instinctive, protective way.
A red line appeared across her buttocks.

I allowed 20 seconds to pass and then applied the second stroke in
much the same way, and with the same reaction from Caroline.

At this point there came a knock on the door. "Wait a moment", I
called out. "Who is it"

"Jason Ackroyd, Sir. I have a message for you."

Jason was Head Boy of the House and as such had ready access to my
study. Caroline was aware of this and, almost beside herself,
screeched, "Please, please, Sir, no! Please don't let him see me like
this."

I went over to the door cane in hand. Initially, the interruption had
annoyed me, but I now saw an opportunity to add to Caroline's
discomfort and hopefully reinforce to her the need to mind her tongue
in future. I opened the door. "I'm sorry, Jason, but I really can't
invite you in at the moment. I'm just in the throes of completing a
delicate piece of business with Caroline Edwards. But what can I do
for you?"

Jason's eyes were at first riveted on the cane in my hand but as he
looked up I saw his eyes go beyond me to the table where Caroline's
discarded clothes were lying. It must have been crystal clear to him
what was happening. He would not have been able to see my desk from
where he was but I could sense he was trying to steal a glance.

"Yes, Jason"

"Oh, sorry to interrupt, sir. Mr Richards asked me to give you this
note. He said it was urgent." He put an envelope in my hand neatly
addressed in Richards' precise handwriting, and forced himself to turn
away back down the corridor.

Peter Richards was one of the longest serving members of staff, a
pompous little man full of his own importance and fond of expressing
himself in long drawn out letters rather than simply using the
telephone. I always dreaded having to deal with him and so I had no
hesitation in putting his latest missive to one side while I attended
to Caroline.

The interlude with Jason, although unplanned, had worked well. I felt
sure that he could be relied on to spread the news of what was
happening to Caroline, and she, I felt equally sure, would realise
that
he would. Excellent! I could well imagine the teasing she would be
subjected to.

I returned to the caning itself. The third stroke was a repetition of
the first two, albeit striking a little lower on her bottom. Again it
was hard enough to ensure that a tramline started to form and again
Caroline grunted and squirmed, probably as I intended more from
embarrassment than pain.

The final stroke, however, I delivered standing further from her and
in such a way that the cane crossed the three tramlines. No harder
than the others but the effect, of course, was that much greater as
the pain from the previous strokes was reactivated. Caroline really
squealed at this and was unable to stop herself letting go of the desk
and furiously rubbing her bottom. I decided to let this pass.

"Right, Miss Edwards. Up you get, turn to face me and put your hands
on your head."

I left her standing there for perhaps a minute, naked from the waist
down. I did not feel any more words were necessary, and to tell the
truth I had now had enough of Caroline Edwards and the lengths to
which I had been driven in order to control her.

"Just get out", I rasped, turned my back on her and went to look out
of the window. I remained there while she dressed and did not
acknowledge her whimpered, "I'm sorry, sir" as she left the room.

Only then did I return to my desk, where I sat quietly for another few
minutes recovering my composure.

The unopened envelope delivered by Jason then caught my eye and with a
sigh I realised that I might as well get on with it. I slit it open,
sighed again when I saw that my worst expectations concerning Peter
Richards' literary style were well founded, but at least it was
comparatively short and to the point. To say that I read it with
increasing incredulity is the understatement of the year, but rather
than describe the contents, let me give them to you verbatim. This is
what I read.

"Dear Housemaster

It is my unpleasant duty to bring to your attention the most
regrettable and lamentable lapse of behaviour of two members of your
House. As is my invariable custom having partaken of luncheon I set
out upon a stroll. I had gone about a quarter of a mile down the road
when I saw to my right two young persons wearing the uniform of this
school, one male, one female, who were half walking half running in
the same direction as myself. I assume they were on that little used
track that runs parallel to the road. They were by now about 100 yards
in front of me and I resigned myself to being unable to identify them.
But then two further figures emerged from the bushes and I have to
tell you that I was the unwilling witness of what appeared to be
ardent embraces as the four figures formed into two couples. I
thereupon resolved to get to the bottom of the matter and at no
little discomfort to myself, I climbed over a stile and cautiously
approached the scene.

As the distance reduced I was able to confirm that the two original
young persons were Jeffrey Kirby and Caroline Edwards, both of your
House. Both appeared to be indulging in sexual activity with their
respective but unknown partners, presumably from the village. I do not
feel able to dwell on the detail; let me simply say that clothing was
becoming increasingly dishevelled. I hope you will not think it remiss
of me not to have intervened but frankly I felt that to do so was
beyond the call of duty. I therefore retreated resolving to bring this
matter to your immediate attention.

Yours sincerely

P Richards"


So that was why Caroline had looked so worried when she had entered my
study! It also explained why her agitation appeared to lessen as I
began to reprimand her. Clearly she had been afraid that her frolic
with this village boy had been discovered and was mightily relieved
that, in fact, she was only being hauled over the carpet for something
comparatively minor.

I have to say that my agitation was not lessening, indeed I could
scarcely believe the extent to which she and Kirby had deliberately
flouted school rules. Not to mention Caroline's wilful lie that she
had forgotten the detention because of having some work to complete.

It did not take long before my mind turned to the retribution due to
these two reprobates. Truancy and indulging in sexual activity, two
offences, giving a maximum of 16 strokes, 8 for each. And I resolved
that this time Caroline would not be getting off with a light
application of the stick; a truly explosive caning was what lay in
store for that young lady. Nor would her modesty be spared of course.
These were mandatory caning offences, and so she would be required as
the school rules put it ‘to remove all items of clothing'.

I wondered whether she and Kirby, having offended together, should
also be punished together. I reached for my pen, wrote notes summoning
them both to my study for 8.30 the following evening, and called for
the duty prefect to deliver them.

Dear 'Ann'; Since you are new to this forum we would first like to hear factual accounts of your own experience with school CP. Then if you decide to send more fiction,please find a more talented author.

What makes you suspect that this is fiction please Bob?

It's fiction because it never happened.

Neither did anything like it ever happen - at any school in the world - ever.

Hello Lotta. Another busy evening for you knocking the contributions of others.

What makes you say that Lotta Nonsense?
Have you been everywhere?
Have you been in every school in the world?
Have you ever worked within the education system anywhere?

This 'story' should be (in the words of the esteemed Sarajane)labeled "fiction for the mentally impaired".
It is obviously the work of some talentless fantasy writer.He/she couldn't even build up any suspense.I knew from the start where the story was going and could have finished it myself.

Anyone who tries to defend the story as genuine is only making a fool of themselves.

Bob, I don't see anyone trying to defend the story as factual.Lotta Nonsense's contribution to the thread would be more valued if SHE had said "It never happened because.... and gave the reason why. We do not all have the same insight as Lotta.

Dear Anon; I did not intend to turn this into a debate on the authenticity of Anns' story. I simply would like to know about her/his personal experiences of school CP. I just think that is what this forum is here for.If she/he only wants to send in fiction,then we have more talented writers already here.

I take your point Bob, but when someone posts a factual account of school cp, Lotta Nonsense immediately says it did not happen. I feel that a story should only be called fiction if there are valid reasons to support that accusation.
Perhaps someone may decide to post a fictional story if all posts are going to be dismissed as so anyway.

Dear Anon; I have been here long enough to know that Lotta only questions accounts of females punished by males.I have no doubt that somewhere at sometime a girl was caned/slippered on the bottom (maybe even bare bottom)by a male teacher /head master.And that he got away with it.And even if she went back to class and showed her striped and bloody bottom to the whole class,there would be no written proof to back up her claim.And even if she named the school,teacher,and year it happened,it would still be hard to believe.Unless it was in Africa or the far east or some other place where women have no rights.

If you want a factual account of girls punished by men,just talk to a girl who was at one of the religious schools or communities in the U.S. Their stories generally tend to make one sick rather than aroused.

Not so Bob. Tony James posted an account of a girl being caned by a scholmistress at the alice Ottley school and Lotta Nonsense said this.
"How likely it is that such an incident should take place in 1962 is a matter easily decided by anyone who was a teenager in Britain at the time but what is not debatable is the question of girls being caned on the bum at that school in the 1960's. They weren't - fact!"
Where does Lortta Nonsense get that information from?
Did she go to that school?
She has posted no facts to support her dismissal of the post or any other post.
All she appears able to say is "It never happened"
That's easy, we can all do that.

If Lotta is who I think she is (don't ask,I won't tell), she is in a position to know.

She has made a comment about the price of petrol in the mid-sixties to indicate that she had not even been born at that time. She has no first-hand knowledge of the strict discipline that took place in schools during the sixties and before.
It doesn't matter who she is, she was never there.

Anonymous must have found himself in a LOT of trouble at school. Everytime the history teacher spoke of life in times gone by, he must have shouted out 'How do you know? You were never there!'

Significant historical events are well recorded and researched by historical experts before they are accepted and taught as facts.
The canings that took place in UK schools, especially during the post war years of the 50's and 60's were not significant enough to have been recorded in the same manner.
They are however recorded in the memories of people who lived through those years.
Sorry Lotta, I find your posts amusing and entertaining but as many schoolteachers often said:
"You must try harder"

Au contraire, Anonymous.

There is no obligation upon me or upon anyone else to show what did NOT happen at any time in history. A list of such non-events would of necessity be infinitely long.

The obligation is upon you and your fellow fantasists to show that what you say happened did happen.

Your problem is that, while there is a veritable mountain of evidence to show that countless boys were caned on the bum by male teachers in UK schools during the last few hundred years, there is not one reliable report of a teenage girl having suffered a similar fate in circumstances that did not subsequently result in the man's prosecution.

If you want to guess what unreported incidents of murder, mutilation, torture, rape and sexual molestation might have occurred behind the closed doors of private institutions of one kind or another over the past couple of centuries, please feel free and I'll be the first to admit that almost anything might have happened.

However, when it comes to school corporal punishment we must confine ourselves to the official policies of the schools and there was never . . . ever . . . a UK school at which teenage girls were caned on the bum by male teachers.

You may be correct about girls not being caned on the bum by males but if you read my posts again I did not refer to males. I said 'caned' and I was referring to school mistresses. The post by Tony James referred to a girl being caned on the bum by a female, which you said did not happen.
When someone posts about their actual experience then if you want to dipute it, and call them a liar, then it is your obligation to give evidence as to why you are entitled to make that allegation.
If someone is in court and accused of a crime that they say they did not do then it is up to the prosecution to prove that they are lying.
It is up to you to prove that someone is lying.
Would you like to state on this board that no girl was ever given the slipper on her bum by a male teacher who was not prosecuted.
You will be staking your reputation on it. If you accept the challenge then I will have a lot of pleasure in proving, beyond any doubt, that you are wrong and at that point I will expect you to do the honourable thing and resign from this forum.

Au contraire again , Anonymous.

It not up to me to prove anybody is lying.

If someone claims that a very unusual or unprecedented event has taken place, it is up to that person to prove it did happen - not for others to prove it didn't. Any other methodology would oblige us to accept every tale of alien abduction, every tale of ghostly visitation and countless other highly unlikely happenings which we all know are almost certainly the product of over-active imaginations.

My general position on school CP is as simple as it is well-known: there was never a UK school at which teenage girls were caned on the bum by males and there was never a UK school at which teenage girls were punished on the bare bum by teachers of either sex.

With specific reference to Tony's story - it was an absurd and very obvious fantasy. Girls were not caned on the bum at Alice Ottley School in 1962.

As I've said, it's not for me to prove that AO girls were not abducted by aliens in 1962, it's not for me to prove AO School was not haunted in 1962 and it's not for me to prove AO girls weren't caned on the bum in 1962.

If you think any or all of the above happened - let's see your evidence.

I have just read Tony's story again and he did not say the girl was caned on the bare bum. He said she was caned on the bum, on top of the knickers, by a female member of staff.
To liken that event to stories about aliens is rather ridiculous and it is yourself who is fantasising.
You have obviously led a very sheltered life and are not aware of what actually happened during an era before you were born.
You also forgot to reply to my challenge as to whether you wish to dispute that girls had to bend over for the slipper. That's not on the bare bum, just bend over to receive the slipper from a male teacher.
I repeat what I said previously. If you want to call someone a liar then it is you who has to have the evidence to support that accusation. Talk about aliens is 'nonsense' in itself.

I do wish Anonymous would read my postings before arguing with me.

I know full well that Tony didn't say the girl was caned on the bare bum. Indeed, in my posting above I say "With specific reference to Tony's story - it was an absurd and very obvious fantasy. Girls were not caned on the bum at Alice Ottley School in 1962." The concept of the bare bum didn't arise in connection with that story - unlike Anon and Tony's willies!

Furthermore, in the posting above I stated very clearly what CP scenarios I dismiss out of hand. If Anon has stories re any other scenarios, I shall judge each one on its merits or lack thereof.

Also, when judging Anon's bum-slippering tales, let us bear in mind that just because certain things may have been done by certain people in certain places at certain times - that does not mean that everyone who claims to have done it (or to know someone else who has done it) is telling the truth.

As someone said to me recently, if everyone who claimed to be or have been in the SAS was telling the truth, the SAS would be the largest regiment in the world!

Lotta, just answer this as a 'yes' or 'no' please:

"Would you like to state on this board that no girl was ever given the slipper on her bum by a male teacher who was not prosecuted.
You will be staking your reputation on it. If you accept the challenge then I will have a lot of pleasure in proving, beyond any doubt, that you are wrong and at that point I will expect you to do the honourable thing and resign from this forum."

Thanks.

"Would you like to state on this board that no girl was ever given the slipper on her bum by a male teacher who was not prosecuted."

I have no reason to state the above - simply because I have no reason to doubt that it happened occasionally.

Also, I know for a fact that teenage girls were caned and strapped on the hand by male teachers in the UK.

Also, I know for a fact that at least one teenage girl in the UK was bonked by one of her male teachers and that the Headteacher and the girl's parents knew of and approved of the relationship.

In fact, I'm quite sure a lot of things happened between girls and male teachers - but I'm equally sure some things did not .

Lotta wrote:

‘I know for a fact that at least one teenage girl in the UK was bonked by one of her male teachers and that the Headteacher and the girl's parents knew of and approved of the relationship.’

According to our Research Team, this happened at Washwood Heath School, Birmingham. It’s quite near the Bromford.

They believe that the bonking teacher is an occasional contributor to this forum.

He won’t contribute again, now that you have exposed the dirty bugger.

Ok so Lotta did not accept the challenge. Lotta also said this:
"In fact, I'm quite sure a lot of things happened between girls and male teachers - but I'm equally sure some things did not ."
I believe in straight talking so if you would like to list what things didn't happen I will be able to see if I agree with you and if I don't then I will provide evidence to show why I disagree. There is too much waffle going on here so let's get to the facts if we can. I believe that it is in everyone's interest. I do believe there are some fantasy posts here and perhaps there are some men posting as girls.Is that fair enough?
I did have a strict public school, and university, education. I do have a real interest in school discipline.
Thanks.

There is a site called Spanking Facts and Research that is a site dedicated to female celebrities who have admitted being spanked at one time or another. A british celebrity (I forget who, so look at the site) said she was caned on the bum by her headmaster while she was at school.
It appears that you are incorrect Lotta.

After much overnight discussion, I have given an undertaking to the Research Team that I will not reveal the name of J.B.

Nathan,

If you believe everything you read about celebrities, there really is no hope for you.

Dear Lotta,

If you go to the thread "Girls bottoms spanked by male teachers at school", you will see that my post dated 3 September gives details of a caning I witnessed.

Although I have no way of proving it, I can promise you that this did indeed happen so I know that there is at least one true account on this forum of a girl being caned by a male teacher. The school was Thomas Calton and the teacher was Mr.Gabriel, the maths master. I can't give you the exact year but it was sometime in the early sixties. I could give you the name of the girl who was punished but I think it may be unwise to do this on this public forum.

I would be interested to read your comments.

Richard

I'm still waiting for the list of what things didn't happen Lotta.
Thanks.

1) Henry VIII didn't build the Great Wall of China

2) Mozart didn't write 'The Catcher in the Rye'

3) Thora Hird never set foot on Mars

4) Red Rum never wrote an Oscar-winning screenplay

5) George the fake headmaster never caned a bum in his life

How many more would you like?

Most amusing Lotta
I refer you to your comment:
"In fact, I'm quite sure a lot of things happened between girls and male teachers - but I'm equally sure some things did not ."

If you publish a list of the things which 'did not' in the quote then I will see if I agree with you.

Anonymous,

What may appear to the less astute reader to be a sincere attempt to reach consensus is in reality nothing more than a cunning plan to lure me into a stiffy-inducing discussion with you.

Your plan has failed.

Lotta Nonsense, you are backing down from the challenge then? I previously challenged you to announce that no school girl had been slippered on the bum by a male teacher and you backed down. You were up against the ropes and everyone knew it. I had some compelling facts that you would have no argument against.
I really did intend to have a serious discussion about the reality of school discipline but it appears that you do not wish to join in.
You are a big disappointment Lotta. You are obviously intelligent and sensed that you had met your match. You are not prepared to continue a useful and informative adult discussion. When I was at school I was the chairman of the 6th form Debating Society. I do enjoy a stimulating discussion on a controversial topic but you are unwilling to join in. I can assure you that I am too old to be concerned about getting a 'stiffy' as you put it. I will leave that to the youngsters.
You prefer to post your "It did not happen" messages with boring repetitivity.
However, it's nearly Xmas and I sincerely hope you have a nice holiday.

That is the best reply you can come up with? In this case you have been proven incorrect, it would be very easy for her story to be proven wrong as she is a celebrity and her life story is easity attainable.
Face the facts, Lotta. YOU ARE VERY, VERY WRONG.

The celebrity in question is Fiona Phillips, UK TV presenter. For those interested check out the Spanking Facts and Research site.
WRONG LOTTA

Fiona Phillips was slippered on her buttocks by her headmaster, come on Lotta you must try harder.

On 10/12/03 at 10.41 am, I wrote "There was never a UK school at which teenage girls were caned on the bum by males".

On 11/12/03 at 3.25 am Nathan says "A british celebrity (I forget who, so look at the site) said she was caned on the bum by her headmaster while she was at school" but less than 24 hours later the cane has miraculously transformed into a slipper as, having identified the celebrity as Fiona Phillips, Nathan writes "Fiona Phillips was slippered on her buttocks by her headmaster"

Unfortunately, even after correcting his mistake about the implement used, Nathan still mis-identifies the wielder of the weapon. Poor boy - if his eyesight were not ravaged by years of continual masturbation, he might have seen that the site to which he refers says quite clearly that it was a schoolmaster who did the deed.

Oh dear, poor Nathan - I bet his face is now as red as Fiona's bum was!

Dear Lotta,

I'm concerned that you have not had the courtesy to respond to my message of 11 December.

It this because you have identified the account as genuine and therefore not worthy of comment?

Richard

Richard,

A report of almost any isolated incident might be genuine.

For example, if you wish to say that your maths teachers once exposed himself deliberately to a class of 12-year-old girls - who am I to say it didn't happen?

However, if you were to tell me that such behaviour was deemed acceptable by the headmaster and governors at your school, I'd be inclined to dispute your story.

My contention is and always has been that there was never a UK school where male teachers caned girls on the bum as part of an official policy re M/f CP. I would also contend that since schools were invented the number of male teachers who have exposed their naughty bits to girl pupils far exceeeds the number who have caned girls' bums.

In a world where 99.999% of M/f bum-whacking memories are obvious fantasies, your story is therefore relatively credible.

That's not to say I believe it, but neither is it to say that I condemn it as a lie.

Lotta Nonsense said:
QUOTE
"My contention is and always has been that there was never a UK school where male teachers caned girls on the bum as part of an official policy re M/f CP."

Er......well......darling sweet Lotta........I've got something to tell you........and without wanting to spoil your Christmas celebrations..............it is this:-
WE ALREADY KNEW THAT! CHEERS!!!!!

'We'?

I think Anonymous's identity has just been revealed!

How's your knee, Ma'am?

I am very sorry to have to inform you that you are not so honoured Lotta.
I did study the sciences at school and engineering afterwards. I make no claims as to the grammatical accuracy of my writing although I do try my best and think that it is reasonable.
I used the word 'we' as the plural pronoun. I took it on myself to speak for all members of the board. I know that was very presumptious of me and perhaps it would have been correct for me to say 'I' knew that.
So now the question has to be:
"Did anyone not know that?"
I still wish you a happy Xmas Lotta and will continue to be entertained by your wit and charm.
ANON

Wether she was slippered or caned is irrelevant, the fact that you say nothing of the sort between male teachers and female students never happened, this would suggest she was slippered on her backside.
What is interesting though is that it seems to be the only one of its kind on the site.
I don't know personally if such things ever happened as I never witnesses it. I do know some girls (not very many) were caned by my headmistress at school) I didn't witness these either. But I did see a sore hand or two.
I do agree with Lotta Nonsense that bare bottom canings or slipperings are fantasies, but with so many schools in the UK can you really know for sure.