In a recent posting, Deep Pan said of certain ladies on the spanking scene "they charge for something they do not enjoy doing, which is tantamount to prostitution".
What she's saying is that a prostitute who enjoys her work is not a prostitute. That's a very strange assertion as, although opinion may differ with regard to what is and what isn't prostitution, there is no definition either legal or lay (no pun intended) which cites enjoyment of the work as a defining factor.
That having been established, we might usefully ask 'What is a prostitute?' and even more usefully 'Are professional spankers and spankees prostitutes?'.
Most people's idea of a prostitute is simply 'a woman who has sex in exchange for money' and although the term is applicable equally to men the distinction need not concern us unduly for the purpose of the present discussion.
Having established that a prostitute is a person who has sex in exchange for money, we must now ask what we mean by 'having sex' and I think we'd agree that the term includes many activities other than copulation.
On that basis, our definition becomes 'a person who engages in sexual activity in exchange for money'.
Having taken the matter thus far, we must now ask what comprises 'sexual activity' in the context of our definition. It's not hard to define it: sexual activity is any activity the purpose of which is to produce sexual pleasure.
Now if we ask 'Does spanking afford sexual pleasure to those who pay others to engage in it?' the answer is certainly 'Yes'.
If we ask 'Are those paid to engage in it aware that the payers derive sexual pleasure from the activity?', the answer is again 'Yes'.
So, are professional spankers/spankees prostitutes?
Go to Middlesbrough if you want to know what a Prostitute is. That place is the Prostitution capital of the UK.
Stand on the corner of Borough Road and Union Street, after a short while a pox-faced horror who honks of glue and is wearing clothes that haven't been washed or changed for a month will approch you and ask: "D'yer' want Buznis?" By that she'll mean "Gis a fiver so's ah can get some more Bostic and you can shaft us up me arse down dat back alley over vere. Wivout' a condom as well if yer' like".
Lotta Nonsense
Re: Re: Prostitution
March 6 2004, 7:47 PM
There are many who would say the only difference between young ladies who rent their bottoms in back alleys and those who rent them at spanking parties is that the latter group charge considerably more than a fiver.
Not a Muncher
What they are paying...
March 6 2004, 9:03 PM
…five miles from Junction 29 of the M1.
Shanelle charges £85 per hour and tells us that
I DO NOT offer sexual gratification/relief or intimate contact of any sort so DO NOT offend by asking. For those of you that do not understand this, it means anything explicit from both parties or self relief in my house.
Not a Muncher
What they are paying...
March 6 2004, 9:07 PM
…in Wigan/South Hampshire.
Lady Pandora charges £85 per hour and tells us that
I do not practice [sic] BDSM; nor do I allow any relief or other sexual practice in my home. You are being welcomed into my home; do not offend me.
an old customer of Lady Pandora in the north
Re: What they are paying...
March 7 2004, 9:11 AM
I have been to a few of Lady Pandora's parties This lady is not a hooker, she a pimp one of the worst kind.
why do i say this. … well its because she gets the guys to pay to come and spank girls, that she does not pay.
so lads, your being conned, just like her girls.
and what does she and her half wittied freddie do they just make a nice little profit.......
freddie has to fund is drugs from someone. and yes its YOU
So LadyPandora don't worry about raids on clubs worry about drug raids...... they are coming to you soon ........... mark my words
ROFLMAO
March 7 2004, 10:06 AM
Is that really the best you can do? You came to one of my parties and believe I am a pimp? Good for you, dear, I do hope you are getting your jollies from all this one hand typing ... you most certainly wouldn't get any from me.
Sad to think you have nothing better to do with your time than trawl the web looking for places to post silly things about me. Here I'm a pimp, a rip-off merchant and someone who gets raided regularly by the Police. On ITC I'm a paedophile who engages in Age Play with grown ups (shock horror); I also regularly get raided by the Police; I am a cripple and far too short to be a Domme. Obsession is a dangerous thing, my dear; I suggest you see a psychiatrist - if you can drag yourself away from your keyboard long enough.
Please feel free to send the Drug Squad to my premises ... I will provide you with my address to facilitate this. The only drugs they will find are legal painkillers, of which I have many.
I do not have to justify myself or the way I run my parties to anyone. However, if anyone would like to know the ins and outs, please feel free to contact me via email or telephone ... I ALWAYS post under my own name and I ALWAYS give my email address.
Future Muncher
Re: ROFLMAO
March 7 2004, 10:42 AM
I cannot believe that Lady Deep Pandora is pimping. She looks such a kindly lady, just like my old granny in Basildon. Freddie does not look like a drugger, either. He just looks a bit tired.
Keep posting!
Freddie
Re: Re: ROFLMAO
March 7 2004, 11:19 AM
Well Mr or Mrs Anonymous if you have been to several of Lady Pandora's parties, you must be a carrot short of an allotment to have handed over so much of your hard earned cash before you realised you were being fleeced.
Future muncher - the reason I look so tired is that Lady Pandora and I play so much real time as opposed to those sad wankers who can only sit in their jealous little daydreams and criticise others whilst doing nothing to make the scene better.
Another Muncher
Cheap Caning
March 7 2004, 1:11 PM
£85 an hour? Forget it! I’ve found someone who will have a go for just £80 an hour.
If I were her agent, I'd increase her fee to £200 per hour plus travel expenses and I guarantee she'd have a waiting list.
Re: Re: Cheap Caning
March 7 2004, 1:59 PM
Liz is one of the nicest, most genuine people on the spanking/CP scene. She clearly states on her website that she is into the milder end of the spectrum and I think she is brilliant. She also has one of the most spankable bottoms you will find anywhere.
Another Muncher
Even Cheaper Caning
March 7 2004, 3:53 PM
She’s not asking £85! She’s not asking £80! She’s giving it away at only £60 an hour! And what’s more she’s in Halifax. That’s my kind of town!
Here's a pic of '£60 per hour' Serena from Sowerby Bridge, Halifax.
Another Muncher
Re: Re: Even Cheaper Caning
March 7 2004, 8:02 PM
Not only is Halifax my kind of town but Serena is my kind of prostitute wearing my kind of underwear and my kind of eyeshadow. And all for just £60 an hour. How does she do it? Or perhaps I should be asking ‘why?’
Lotta Nonsense
Re: Re: Re: Even Cheaper Caning
March 7 2004, 8:17 PM
I don't believe Serena exists.
I think it's a cunning advertising ploy by Liz's agent.
nigel
cheaper caning
March 8 2004, 4:19 PM
Why not try the e-mail address. You may have to change your tune!
Darwinian Man
Cheap
March 8 2004, 6:30 PM
Serena may not exist, but she is almost certainly related to that woman from Grange Hill. Caning Headmistress Caning Prostitute
Looby Lou
Really?
March 10 2004, 2:36 PM
Shanelle's website states
"Please DO NOT offend by asking for sexual gratification/relief/touching of any sort or ask to relieve yourself in my home. (I am not offering prostitute services, go elsewhere for that). I DO NOT partake of anything too severe.
I DO NOT engage in BDSM or SM and I DO NOT go naked, so please bear this in mind when making an appointment."
However, she posts pics to the contrary, as can be seen on www.uk-spankers.com
Lotta Nonsense
Re: Really?
March 10 2004, 8:26 PM
Here are some pics of Shanelle paying lip service to her 'no nudity' rule.
Husband Not Amused
Re: Re: Really?
March 10 2004, 9:02 PM
I am disgusted by the photographs above, particularly the one in which she has green knickers around her thighs, and, like Phil Holden and Laurence Jackson, have cancelled my subscription.
mike chambers
Spanking pros
November 17 2005, 6:48 PM
I have never had the pleasure of being spanked by Shanelle....but I have been over the silk clad lap of her friend Liz (spankingservices,net)
No need for releif or sexual favours here. The sheer pleasure of being put over a firm lap and have your bare bottom warmed is releif enough in itself
bonanza
Re: Spanking pros
November 26 2005, 2:05 PM
I would just like to say that I have visited both Liz and Serena and have found them to be excellent practitioners of cp. I certainly would not class these ladies as prostitutes, they charge for a cp service and nothing else.
Lotta Nonsense
Re: Spanking pros
November 27 2005, 12:23 AM
"I would just like to say that I have visited both Liz and Serena and have found them to be excellent practitioners of cp. I certainly would not class these ladies as prostitutes, they charge for a cp service and nothing else" says Bonanza.
If none of their clients ever becomes sexually aroused by their services, I'll accept they're not prostitutes.
Which means, I think you'll find, that they're prostitutes.
bonanza
Re: Spanking pros
November 28 2005, 9:48 PM
I would beg to differ Lottsa Nonsense. I never got aroused whilst I visited these ladies, I was interested in experiencing a genuine punishment and that is what I got.