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cp in books

August 16 2004 at 1:43 PM
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I have listed the book Fear of the Collar by Patrick Touher in another thread. This includes accounts of severe corporal punishment including boys being whipped on the soles of the feet with a leather strap, boys being leathered across the hands and boys being leathered across the buttocks, sometimes over clothing and sometimes across the bare buttocks.

In Basketball Diaries there is one account by Jim Carrol of receiving three whacks of a thick rubber strap across the hands for lack of effort in class and an account of another pupil receiving up to ten whacks with a rubber strap across the bare buttocks for cheating in a test.

There are many accounts of well known people receiving corporal punishment whilst at school including Sting as mentioned elsewhere, he was caned across the buttocks frequently. Also Richard Branson, Holly Johnson, Tony Blair and Boy George were caned across the buttocks. Alan Titchmarsh was caned across the hands and Vinnie Jones was slippered across the buttocks.

Reading accounts of peoples lives usually reveals that they have been subjected to corporal punishment in their schooldays. Catholic educations seem to have been particularly severe.As Jim Carrol says in his book referring to the teachers - beating asses red for the least bit of goofing. He reports that all teachers carry a thick rubber strap except one who has a thin wooden stick which he uses across the ass and it stings all day. In Touhers account the leather is ever present and frequently used.

Boys it seems were beaten often in front of others as an example and often for petty reasons. One thing for sure is that the strap kept boys in line.

 
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Gillian

Re: cp in books

August 16 2004, 6:47 PM 

To read about well-known females who received corporal punishment at school, go to the splendid site of our old friend Paul:

http://sfrsite.topcities.com/

And the M/m lot will surely find interesting our thread, currently on this page, ‘Footballers/celebrities caned at school’.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: cp in books

October 16 2004, 12:09 PM 

The Chat Forum of Paul's site has a thread called "Hours in a Library" which contains more factual accounts of female corporal punishment than you could point a cane at.

 
 
onthehands

Couldnt find link "Hours in Library" (thread) of experiences of girls having CP

October 30 2004, 1:24 PM 

Couldnt find link "Hours in Library" (thread) of experiences of girls having CP.

Does anyone have it?

 
 
Library Visitor

Re: Couldnt find link "Hours in Library" (thread) of experiences of girls having CP

October 30 2004, 3:38 PM 


 
 
Anonymous

Re: Couldnt find link "Hours in Library" (thread) of experiences of girls having CP

November 21 2004, 8:24 AM 

Here's a bit from it:

Re: Approved school October 3 2004, 8:58 AM


Gordon Rose, “Schools for Young Offenders”, 1967.

‘Punishment in approved schools is strictly governed by the Approved School Rules 1933 [as amended]:

“Rule 34 When punishment is necessary for the maintenance of discipline, one of the following methods shall be adopted:

(i) Forfeiture of privileges …

(ii) Alteration of meals for a period …

(iii) Separation from other pupils …

(iv) Corporal punishment. Every effort shall be made to enforce discipline without resort to corporal punishment. Where it is found necessary its application shall be in strict accordance with rules 35 or 36 as the case may be. …

Rule 36 Corporal punishment in girls’ schools shall be subject to the following conditions:

(a) It shall be inflicted only on the hands with a cane of a type approved by the Secretary of State and shall not exceed three strokes on each hand, but only girls under 15 shall be so punished.

(b) No girl with any physical or mental disability shall be so punished without the sanction of the Medical Officer.

(c) It shall only be inflicted by the Headmistress (or during her absence by the officer appointed under Rule 21 to exercise the duties of Headmistress) or by an officer of the school in her presence and under her direction.

(d) It shall not be inflicted in the presence of other girls.

(e) Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (c) and (d) of this Rule, for minor offences committed in the schoolroom by girls under 15, the principal teacher may be authorized by the Managers to administer with the cane not more than two strokes on each hand. Where the principal teacher is so authorized to administer corporal punishment, she shall keep a book to be known as the Schoolroom Punishment Book and she shall at once enter therein any corporal punishment inflicted by her under this paragraph.’

It seems likely that a revised list would not include ‘alterations of meals’, a form of punishment which is in any case rarely used. … There is no published record of punishments given in approved schools …

The Franklin Committee did provide some data on the incidence of punishment in approved schools during the last six months of 1949. In the six schools studied the rates of punishment varied considerably, as the following figures for corporal punishment show:

Category of school, % of pupils punished:

Senior girls: 9-71
Intermediate girls: 16-88
Junior girls: 2-17

[I.e., in six girls’ approved schools sampled, the percentage of the whole pupil population receiving canings in a six-month period in 1949 varied from 9% in the least severe to 71% in the most severe school.]

From the analyses made by the Franklin Committee it would appear that the main offence for which recorded punishments were given, and corporal punishment in particular, was that of absconding, an offence which it is particularly important to restrain others from committing, and which tends to bring the school into disrepute in the neighbourhood. There are no published figures, but it is estimated that about one-fifth of the population of boys abscond, and … about one-third of the girls [!], rather more in senior schools, rather less in junior. … A girls’ school was at one time set side especially for absconders from other girls’ schools.’


 
 
Anonymous

The English Vice

December 14 2004, 6:10 AM 

Writing the Spectator 'Diary' column for 11 December 2004, Beryl Bainbridge mentions that Ian Gibson, "The English Vice", has recently been re-issued in paperback.

This 'study' of cp is actually a reasonably handy collection of odds and ends. Most of the good bits can be read on the "Hours in a Library" thread, mentioned here. Still, it would be nice to know if there are any new ones. If someone buys it, could they let us know?

Why now, one wonders, quarter of a century after its first appearance in hardback (Duckworth)? A sign of the times, does anyone think?

Anon.

 
 
Peter

A Rare Book

January 25 2005, 5:20 PM 

Has anyone read ‘Giggling in the Shrubbery’ by Arthur Marshall. It is a book of recollections of life at girls’ boarding schools. Is there any fladge in it?

 
 
uiop

Re: A Rare Book

January 26 2005, 8:38 AM 

Yes, it is a very amusing book, but no fladge.

 
 
squirrel

arthur marshall

January 27 2005, 9:18 PM 

His companion volume "Whimpering in the Rhododendrons", a collection of reminiscences about boys' prep schools, does have a fair bit of CP in it.
He also wrote elsewhere about this topic on a number of occasions. See for instance http://www.corpun.com/uksc8708.htm

 
 
Anonymous

Re: cp in books

March 8 2005, 10:06 AM 

Plus now a "Literary Supplement" consisting of extracts from mainstream fiction from times gone by.

 
 
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