| Lottas' ProfileSeptember 13 2004 at 10:40 AM | One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest |
| By way of introduction, you may care to note that I had four years Transactional Analysis Psycotherapy training, and hold a post graduate Diploma in Integrative Psycotherapy and an Advanced Diploma in Integrative Counselling. I have worked both in private practice and Primary Care. I am able to work in psychodynamic and humanistic forms of therapy.
Lottas' profile has been prepared on a psychodynamic basis, by working backwards through virtually all the messages on the board from pages 15 to 5, encompassing the period from May 2002 until March 2004. At this point I virtually lost the will to live and just skim read the remaining posts, where they seemed relevant.
The resulting profile is a mix of Inspector Knacker as well as Cracker. Lottas’ posting (see “Belted “ thread
7 Sept 4.20pm) made it clear she would not be answering my perfectly reasonable questions, but her refusal to answer and the slightly hysterical nature of that refusal says almost as much as a confirmation from her, at least in respect of the questions relating to depression and compulsive behavior.
LOTTA’S PERSONALITY
When writing about Lottas’ personality, it would be easy to fall into her (Lotta is a women and I will come to that later) assertion that I will use physco babble. So I will avoid talking about 16 personality types and their sub divisions and cut straight to a relatively simple definition. Lotta is a classic Type A personality. An A Type personality is aggressive, idiosyncratic, inventive, solitary, competitive, driven, stressed and a potential workaholic (for anyone wanting to know more about personality types I recommend The New Personality Self Portrait – Why you Think, Work, Love and Act The Way You Do by John H Oldham and Louis B Morris (1995) revised edition, published by Bantam, New York).
Lotta is motivated by four basic desires: power, non-conformity, recognition and solitude and has four basic fears: submission, conformity, obscurity and intimacy.
So how does this personality reflect itself in her daily activities, her characteristics and attitudes?
Well, if you were to have a face to face conversation with Lotta you would find that she would talk very quickly and that her speech would be accompanied by flamboyant hand gestures. When in a debate or argument with Lotta , she would be prone to talking even quicker and talking over the other person- in a sense shouting them down. It is extremely important to her that she has the last word and this is reflected in her postings. She has great difficulty keeping still for any length of time or relaxing and is likely to suffer from high levels of stress, often triggered by quite small events in her life. She is prone to periods of depression and has probably received medical treatment for this condition in the past. On questions of health, Lotta might be regarded by some as a hypochondriac, she will visit the doctor regularly (unlike many people who will wait for symptoms to clear up of their own accord) and she will certainly never die wondering what is wrong with her.
Winning the argument is very important to Lotta, winning the argument and the perception of others that she has won, is vital to her sense of self esteem. Indeed, winning the argument is probably more important to her then being right or accurate. This is demonstrated by her argument that Mary and I are one and the same person. There is no logic to support this argument but she moves seamlessly from assertion to a claim that she has exposed the facts. She is similar in approach to Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister who stated “Truth is only the best argued case.” (I do not argue of course that Lotta is a Nazi, indeed her politics are likely to be well to the left rather than the right.
Lotta likes everything just so, she seeks perfection in others and is easily irritated when she doesn’t find it, as indeed she is when she can’t get her own way in life. She has both compulsive and obsessional tendencies, but whether these amount to a dysfunctional personality disorder is hard to say, as she refused to answer my question on the matter. However, to illustrate how this problem is likely to manifest itself in her, I give you the following example. I’m not saying this is a precise example but it is indicative of how she behaves and I think you’ll get the drift.-------- Lotta goes to bed. Before turning in she locks the doors and windows, goes upstairs, draws the curtains and tumbles into the sack.. She looks at the curtains, damn their not quite closed correctly, there’s a centimetre gap at the top, so Lotta MUST get out and close them, she can’t sleep unless she does. Lottas’ head hits the pillow again, eyes shut, eyes wide awake again. Did I lock the door. She knows she has, she always does, but she also knows she MUST get up and check, she just can’t sleep until she does (infact she probably has sleep disturbance problems as well and takes prescription sleeping pills from time to time).
That’s compulsive behaviour in its mildest form, but I suspect Lottas’ is much worse, for instance books in the book case MUST be in a certain order, newspapers arranged in an exact way on the coffee table, hygiene and cleanliness habits taken to extremes etc.etc.
It’s not all bad for Type A personalities. At work they are highly competitive,self motivated, ambitious with a tendency to workaholism, although this will increase their stress levels. They are excellent at a range of jobs such as a politician, lawyer, sales manager and credit investigator, to name but a few. When in employment, Type A personalities will channel all their endeavours through their work, from which they will massage their self esteem and satisfy their need for peer recognition.
Unfortunately, I don’t think Lotta is employed. I started by thinking that perhaps she was a mature student or worked from home (although that would not satisfy her need for recognition). On closer examination, it doesn’t seem as if she could be holding down a job, or undertaking a course of study, and be as productive as she is on this board. For instance on November 1st 2003 she posts at 8.11am, 9.01am, 5.45pm and 10.29pm, On November 2nd she posts at 9.13am, 9.24am, 9.27am, 9.35am, 9.47am, 12.03pm and 8.02pm. These postings incidentally, are an a range of topic headings. On November 11th she posted at 8.33am, 12.02pm, 4.13pm, 6.41pm and 10.12pm and on November 14th, at 9.51am, 10.18am and 6.42pm. The respective dates of the examples I have given are Friday, Saturday, Thursday and Monday. They are entirely random illustrations and are typical of her productivity from the time she first appears on the board on October 26th 2003. In fact in an approximate period of one month between October 26th and November 28th, she posts on a total of 51 occasions ranging from as early as 7.14 in the morning through to 11.48 at night. This productivity level and pattern of postings has been repeated from November 28th to date.
I can only conclude that the board represents a substitute for work, and that her competitive, narcissistic and domineering nature finds an outlet through this board, when one is denied to her in a worthwhile occupation.
WHO IS LOTTA?
I can’t answer that but I don’t agree with the suggestion that Lotta is a non-existent creation of the forum owners. What is apparent though, is that Lotta has had almost as many regenerations as Dr Who. I am 100% certain that Lotta and C Nickel are one and the same person and I am reasonably sure that Lotta and Sara Jane are also closely related. There are a number of reasons for this assertion. Firstly the patterns of posting for Sara Jane, C Nickel and Lotta. Just a sample of Sara Janes’ messages, which commenced on 16th June 2002, show a range of posting times from pre dawn until the early hours. For instance on one day she posts at 6.38am, 1.32pm, 10.47pm, 12.32am, 12.45am and 12.58am and then she is up the next day, for postings at 8.19am, 1.32pm and 5.26pm. Sara Jane vanishes from the board towards the end of 2002 and is then replaced by C. Nickel. There is no overlap in the postings of Sara and Nickel, the only time they appear on the same thread is when that thread runs for a lengthy period of time, they never post at the same time. (The same pattern is repeated when Lotta replaces Nickel, they only appear on the same thread when the thread runs over a long period).
C. Nickel is even more prolific a writer than Sara Jane. In just a two month period, I have logged over seventy messages from C. Nickel, the earliest just after 6 in the morning and the latest after midnight. The obsessional nature of this individual is shown in that on the 23rd December 2002, she posted at 11.03pm and 11.11pm and is then up again on Christmas Eve, to post at 9.47am. I grant you that there are some days without any postings whatsoever but even Lotta/Nickel/Jane has to get their shopping in some time.
On August 25th 2003, there is a one message thread from somebody called Public Servant(almost certainly Nickel herself). The thread is entitled Nickel is History. Nickel then disappears for two months, until October 26th, when she mutates into Lotta. During this period there was a poster called Belinda Rose with a vaguely similar style to Nickel and I did give consideration as to whether this was just another pseudonym for Lotta. However, I have come down against this, as Belinda Rose carries on posting spasmodically after Lottas’ arrival.
I cannot explain the two months absence of postings from Lotta, other than this might have been one of her periodic occurrences of depression. Nonetheless, Lotta hits the ground running on October 26th, with postings at 7.14am, 10.46am and 2.34pm. She is up early again on October 27th and posts at 7.59am, 8.43am and 9.14am. I believe that Lotta has occasionally used other one off pseudonyms to demonstrate her cleverness and wit. I would point you in the direction of “Useful Ulrika”, posting on December 9th 2002 and “Sigmund Frued” (ironic that) posting at 6.01pm and 11.01pm on December 10th 2002.
There are other similarities in the writings of Lotta and C. Nickel, which makes the link between these two even stronger. Both disbelieve more than 99% of postings about schoolgirl CP, both accept only first hand accounts from females relating to schoolgirl CP, then denounce female posters as male frauds and both make continual references to “Porkies” and “Pork pies”.
There was a school of thought expressed on the board, that Sara Jane and a regular poster called Stef, were also one and the same person. I don’t think this is the case. Stef, although expressing similar scepticism to Lotta, has a more rounded, academic approach to her writing. She is clearly university educated, which I don’t think Lotta is, and seems prepared to shift her ground when facts demand it. She is a far less prolific writer than Lotta/Nickel/Sara Jane and tends to post at more civilised hours of the day and night. Additionaly, there is overlap in the postings of Stef and Sara Jane/ Nickel, they post during the same period and often in response to one and other. I don’t discount the possibility, however, that Stef and Sara Jane (aka Lotta and Nickel) were personally familiar to each other, maybe even friends at one point.
One or two contributors have previously observed that Sara Jane appears to be “nicer” in her approach to scepticism, than does Nickel or Lotta. I noticed the same thing and this is easily explainable when considering a type A personality. Lotta, in a working environment, would have constraints on her more negative characteristics. Neither work colleagues, nor superiors would tolerate being shouted down or made to look fools, for any length of time. Therefore, boundaries would be set that don’t apply on the board.
The character that was Sara Jane merely tested the water, Nickel emboldened by a sense of anonymity, self obsession and self amusement, became far freer with the insults, which in turn has become even more marked under Lotta. I can’t help coming back to the gap of two months between the end of Nickel and the regeneration into Lotta, I feel this period is significant and may explain why Lotta is even more unpleasant that her predecessor pseudonyms. However, without Lottas’ cooperation, only conjecture is possible and that is pointless.
LOTTA’S GENDER, AGE, BACKGROUND AND SEXUAL ORIANTATION
Lotta is a women. There are a number of pointers to this, in various postings over the two year period that I examined in detail. However, I would point readers to the recent thread on Helston. Here Lotta cannot deny the truth of the circumstances outlined and, it is at this point, that her mask slips and she writes clearly as a women. However, I don’t rely on this one piece alone and as Carl and Mats so beautifully put it, “ all her postes has passed the minge test”.
She is aged between 24 and 35, but is, most probably, in her early 30s’. She is of above average intelligence, with a sound basic education, although as I have said previously, I doubt she has been to university.
She finds it difficult to form or maintain relationships, partly because she is a solitary individual and, partly because of her need to exercise control over those she is in relationships with. She clearly dislikes men intensely, but as she declines to answer the question relating to her father, it makes it difficult to pin point the reason for this dislike. However, in the absence of an answer, I will have a go. I don’t buy the Freudian Theory of Penis Envy (indeed Freud did not really believe it himself). Most likely, her dislike of men originates from an event(s) in her formative years (ages 0 – 7). I cannot speculate whether this was a result of an impaired relationship with her father. She is likely to be a lesbian.
CONCLUSION
Despite myself, I feel rather sorry for Lotta. She is clearly an intelligent, creative and witty individual, who has no proper outlet for her creative talents. She needs to relax more and I would recommend that she learns self-hypnosis and medatative relaxation techniques. It is important, even if she does suffer from mild to medium depression, that she finds gainful employment or, as I suggested previously, at least gets out more and attempts to establish relationships in the real world, rather than channelling all her energies through her computer.
Anonymouse raises the question (Belted thread 7 Sept 7.31pm) “how do we avoid Lotta.” Simple really, just ignore her.(yes, I know it’s do as I say, not as I do) She is like a stage performer needing the adulation of her fans to survive and thrive. Lotta needs recognition, take that away and it’s like withdrawing oxygen from a fire, it just goes out in the end.
But do be gentle on her. For most of us this board represents a bit of harmless fun and entertainment. For Lotta it is a way of life, a reason for getting out of bed in the morning, a chance to impress, teach men a lesson and garner the applause she thinks is her due. At heart, she’s quite a sensitive flower(at least about herself at any rate), so if your going to give her the boot, do it by ignoring her rather than by scorn and ridicule, I really don’t think she will be able to take that.
I will now take a final leave of this board, partly because it is rather more about Lottas' ego (she seems to be permanently in an adapted child ego state), than about CP and partly, because I spend enough time in the company of people with personality malfunctions, without adding to it by way of internet recreation. I'm sure Lotta will feel the need to come back on this but I won't be responding again.
Goodbye,
John
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| | Author | Reply | Anon
| Fascinating | September 13 2004, 8:02 PM |
| Lotta Nonsense
| Re: Fascinating | September 14 2004, 7:57 AM |
I'm sure John's posting would be a fascinating read if only I had the education to understand the big words.
Now, if readers will excuse me, I'm off to check that my doors and windows are locked before I go to pick up my anti-depressants and sign on at the benefits office.
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| Bob T
| Re: Fascinating | September 14 2004, 8:04 AM |
Hello Lotta; Glad to see your not taking Dr. Ignoramus
seriously. |
| Anonymous
| But she did take it seriously | September 14 2004, 7:39 PM |
And did not deny one word of it. Almost anyone could read through her words and see the hurt and indignation there. It would appear that a raw nerve was hit. |
| Lotta Nonsense
| Re: But she did take it seriously | September 14 2004, 8:01 PM |
I see I'm not the only one on medication.  |
| Anon
| Unkindness | September 21 2004, 7:37 PM |
I have come onto this site from time to time to read the postings here, and to see if i wanted to register. However, in almost every thread i have read, i have found people being unkind or downright cruel to others or about others. I don't wish to be part of a site that names people or posts their pictures, apparently without their consent, or denigrates or belittles them simply because they happen to disagree with the 'common view' on this site.
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| Gillian
| Re: Unkindness | September 21 2004, 9:17 PM |
Thank you for registering, Anon.
Keep posting! |
| Anonymous
| Re: Lottas' profile | September 22 2004, 8:22 AM |
Lottas' profile. Does this mean that according to the trick cyclist we are plagued by several Lottas and not just the one? |
| Lotta Nonsense
| Re: Lottas' profile | September 22 2004, 10:17 AM |
| Lotta Nonsense
| Re: Lottas' profile | September 22 2004, 10:18 AM |
| Lotta Nonsense
| Re: Lottas' profile | September 22 2004, 10:19 AM |
| charles clark
| Re: Lottas' Profile | September 26 2004, 8:49 PM |
Lotta is a male psychologist from Exeter area in early 50s |
| Simon
| Re: Lottas' Profile | September 26 2004, 10:30 PM |
charles,
Please send proof. |
| LottaWatch
| Interesting Facts about Lotta | September 27 2004, 7:37 AM |
Lotta is a woman.
Lotta knows a lot about horse racing. |
| Anon
| Refer to previous post | September 27 2004, 7:57 AM |
Anonymouse raises the question (Belted thread 7 Sept 7.31pm) “how do we avoid Lotta.” Simple really, just ignore her.(yes, I know it’s do as I say, not as I do) She is like a stage performer needing the adulation of her fans to survive and thrive. Lotta needs recognition, take that away and it’s like withdrawing oxygen from a fire, it just goes out in the end.
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| A Doctor
| A Doctor writes.... | December 6 2005, 3:04 PM |
‘Lotta Nonsense’ is the pseudonym of someone who is well-known. You people are very lucky to have her writing for you and you should love and cherish her.
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| alaric
| Re: A Doctor writes.... | December 6 2005, 9:14 PM |
well known to whom exactly? |
| A Doctor
| Re: A Doctor writes.... | December 6 2005, 9:21 PM |
To millions of book and newspaper readers and to radio listeners-in.
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| Geoff
| Irritants | December 7 2005, 4:29 AM |
As I have said before, people like Ms Nonsense are inevitable among the denizens of cyberspace who post on forums like this one - expect them, ignore them! I know that's hard when they do their best to be irritating, but let's have this forum dominated by meaningful contributions, not meaningless ones. |
| Anon.
| Re: Irritants | December 8 2005, 5:20 AM |
What is "a women"?
Lotta Nonsense is the salt without which this mainly empty discussion forum hath no savour at all. |
| Lotta attention
| Re: Irritants | January 12 2006, 3:06 PM |
Yes, but we need a more respectful, well-behaved irritant. |
| Lotta Distraction
| Re: Irritants | January 29 2006, 2:47 PM |
Perhaps this thread near the top of the list will improve awareness of what the disruptive messages are.
It's heartening to see most things staying on topic, undistracted by plentiful nonsense. |
| Jim
| Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 3:33 PM |
There's a lot of speculation about Lotta's gender.
What this qualified Psycotherapist concluded (at the start of this topic) may be helpful.
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| Subscriptions Manager
| Re: Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 3:51 PM |
No conclusion reached by someone trained in psycotherapy [sic] is worth considering. |
| Jim
| Re: Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 4:57 PM |
"No conclusion reached by someone trained in psycotherapy [sic] is worth considering."
From the er... "Subscriptions Manager" !?
I have my own reservations about "ologists" and related professions that are well founded, and I'm far from convinced about his conclusions too.
But that's a pretty sweeping statement!
If the author's qualifications put you off, how about you take an independent, unbiased look at the facts instead...
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| Subscriptions Manager
| Re: Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 6:11 PM |
For God’s sake, can’t you read!
The author of ‘Lotta’s Profile’ is unable to spell the name of the subject that he claims to be qualified in. Would you let your wife, your daughter or your servant be treated by someone trained in ‘Psycotherapy’?
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| mimi
| Re: Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 6:21 PM |
Has anyone considered that psychotherapist can be broken down to Phsyco the rapist........ |
| Subscriptions Manager
| Re: Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 6:24 PM |
| Jim
| Re: Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 6:45 PM |
Er.... right...
A missing letter once could have been a typing slip, but an identical error in two places with everything else correct.
Something didn't look right I must admit, but I didn't look further. Too trusting perhaps... But regardless of an infrequent bump in the road, I'll stay with my trusting nature. It must be simply awful to view the world from a believe nothing perspective.
The description of personality types shows a cursory knowledge but he got far too many characteristics squeezed into one category, so that was suspicious too.
Nevertheless there's a ton of verifiable fact and numerous deductions based on sound logic. Pity he didn't elaborate more on the other issues that contributed to his conclusion about gender.
It would be interesting to separate the real from the possibly imaginary and see where it all points.
One thing that intrigues, me, since we are constantly plagued by Lotta's intrusive presence, is just why she has such a hang-up about gender. Females are attracted to male forms and visa versa. Separately from this, everyone finds form appealing or unappealing according to its qualities, so a male can admire another male just like admiring a well designed car and so on. Opposite gender attraction is built in to most of us, and in an unfortuante few, nature has played a not so pleasant trick and equipped them with same gender attraction.
(I wonder which sentence or phrase Lotta will pick out and venemously throw back.)
Lotta has left several clues over the years - among them her fond portrayal of Angela's picture - her rejection of male pictures - her bold portrayal of an ugly female - and she goes a bit strange whenever a female is portrayed in a favourable light - the Fran thing is utterly amazing. Then there's the (fake again!?) psy-whatever-therapist's suspicion that she is probably a lesbian. All of this and much more adds up to intriguing conclusions that are only slightly out of grasp.
Give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves!
If we keep putting up with her garbage, the riddle may soon solve itself....
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| mimi
| Re: Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 7:10 PM |
It is possible to be dysectic?
Subs manager, go and do something usefull like count this months posts. |
| Subscriptions Manager
| Re: Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 7:20 PM |
No, it really is not possible to be ‘dysectic’.
The number of posts made to this deliriously Happy Circle will be published tomorrow. |
| mimi
| Re: Lotta's gender | July 31 2006, 10:59 PM |
The sad thing is that the spelling mistoke was not intentional. |
| JformerlyJethro
| Re: Lotta's gender | August 1 2006, 12:41 AM |
Psychotherapist John does spell ‘psychodynamic’ correctly but then spells ‘physco babble’ so it is possible that he is just not very good at spelling and indeed may be dyslexic. He may need to use a spellchecker and it occasionally misses a word?
My opinion is that John is genuine and I enjoyed reading his fascinating analysis of the most famous poster on this forum that would not be the same without her.
Having said that does not mean that I am a fan of Lotta and her recent ‘prove you want me to prove it’ argument was ridiculous but will probably go down in history like Mandy’s ‘Well he would say that, wouldn’t he’ or John Mac’s ‘You cannot be serious’
Jethro |
| pete
| Lotta's Profile | August 1 2006, 5:15 AM |
I have sometimes wondered if Lotta is really somebody famous outside the rather narrow confines of this site. Contributors' suggestions should be interesting.
Julie Burchill ? No sorry I withdraw that- she's not that bad. |
| happy poster
| Re: Lotta's Profile | August 1 2006, 5:47 AM |
To quote the now famous Mimi:
"Huh?"
Lotta is available constantly to post absurd responses and is a walking encyclopedia on everything and anything fettish and murky on the net.
Rumour has it she's visited each of the 527 spanking chat sites at least four times in the last 24 hours and stayed for 2 hours at each one.
Since she spends her life absorbed in this stuff, what time is left to do anything famous?
All of which sums up to "kinda unlikely" - but how about Margaret Thatcher?
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| Anonymous
| Well,Well | August 2 2006, 10:57 PM |
At least we;ve yet to see Lotta lower her standards!
I don't recall posts sinking to the level of the king of rock n roll impersonating a Mexican fisherman(Girls,Girls Girls) and bewitching us with Song of the Shrimp, stating the bloody obvious(There's no room to Rhumba in a sports car) in Fun In Acapulco or saying Where would we be without the Brownies as in Paradise Hawaain Style.
Plus this is an anagram of her name:-
O,EONS O' TALENT!
So, she'll hopefully be with us for some time yet!
Steve |
| Geoff
| A quotable quote | August 26 2006, 2:04 AM |
"Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack." - George S. Patton, 1885-1945, American Army General during World War II | |
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