Colin Farrell's latest update on the Corpun site (July 15th)is an admirable collation of evidence of school CP in the UK, based mainly on Friends Reunited evidence and anecdotes.

Simple question - in the face of such evidence, including of course names of schools and personnel, how much longer can Sarah Jane / Lotta remain in denial ?

There is a chance, a very small chance, that Colin Farrell is a visitor to this site. If he is, he may like to amend the information about William Penn School which is given in the ‘Great Whacking Schools’ table.

The school was originally a boys’ secondary modern situated in Adys Road, SE15 (not Choumert Road as those fools who run Friends Reunited would have it) but in1958 moved into a new building in Red Post Hill, North Dulwich, SE24 and became a comprehensive school for 1500 young gentlemen.

(not Choumert Road as those fools who run Friends Reunited would have it)

this otherwise interesting and commendable Forum is repeatedly disfigured by this sort of brain-dead venom. Is it not possible to pause and think before posting? Who at Friends Reunited is a fool? The originators are millionaires. They have thousands of admirers and emulators.

Certainly not fools in the sense thay they have made millions of pounds out of it.
But they can be very sloppy about detailed information that they could quite easily check, or rather they could, on that sort of money, very easily employ someone to check.
For instance there are no end of schools that have more than one page for what is essentially the same school with slightly different names, as a few minutes' research would show. This makes for a great deal of unnecessary confusion.

The man is indefatigable! On 31 July he updated yet again!

Quote "But they can be very sloppy about detailed information that they could quite easily check".

I do not think it is the owners of the website who are sloppy in posting school names but the users.

I think you haven't understood my point. I was talking about the way the site is structured, not about any of the contributions to it. There are a lot of instances where unnecessary confusion is caused by Friends Reunited having more than one page for what is actually, as can be deduced if one does rather a lot of extra research (which ought not to be necessary), the same school (e.g. where it has merely slightly changed its name). They have also created extra muddle by not understanding the difference between postal addresses and administrative addresses (Middlesex being a prime example of a postal address that hasn't actually existed as an administrative entity since 1965). That may appear to be an anorak point but it can mean that there are people who haven't managed to find most of their former schoolmates because they are looking under a different name and/or address. I admit the situation is inordinately complicated. I just think that with all their money, F.R. could afford to employ someone (and it would only take one well-informed person who knew how and where to do the research) to sort out the mess.

Anybody can add a school to the list whether or not they have the details correct, whether of not the school is already properly on the list.

"Entered sites are listed live, but with the designation of 'tentative' until checked and cleared by Friends United staff." Obviously, the checking is necessarily rather cursory.

http://www.friendsunited.com.au/listschool.asp

Why is the checking "necessarily" cursory? My point was that with all their millions they could afford to employ somebody to do non-cursory checking.

I have no connection with Friends United. If I seem to be trying to defend them it is because I want to improve things.

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"Why is the checking "necessarily" cursory? My point was that with all their millions they could afford to employ somebody to do non-cursory checking."
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Alaric, you have already correctly identified the problems users have with miss naming of schools, etc. Imagine the difficulties the official checker would have without personal knowledge of the schools or access to paper records from earlier decades. I think those who submit information have some responsibility for the accuracy of their posting.

Would you believe it, he’s updated again!

There’s no stopping him!

What’s the matter with him? He hasn’t updated for a whole week!

He’s updated again today. He just needs a little encouragement.

Read all abaht it! Mad updater strikes again!

http://www.corpun.com/

Off he goes again!

The latest additions will appeal only to the M/M M/m members.

Yes!

It’s happened again today.

The latest update includes those school handbooks in full. Great!

Blimey! I missed the update of three days ago.

Yippee!

The first update of 2006!

Two video clips of interest to M/m lovers.

As Ruby Murray sang on St. Patrick’s day:

‘Don’t you know that today’s March seventeen?
When the latest Corpun update can be seen.’

You’ve got to hand it to him, he’s the best updater in the business.

More than one month have I waited
For corpun.com to be updated.

An update after only fifteen days. Amazing!

There was no update in June.
Perhaps he’s gone on his honeymoon.

I waited so long,
It was like a bad dream.
Then suddenly he updated
On a hot July nineteen.

He’s now been updating for ten years!

I wish we could throw a party,because that IS deication!

Anyone suggest a theme?

You get to the point where you feel that life just isn’t worth living anymore, then in he comes with another update and the dark clouds disappear.

Yippee!

I would have told you earlier, but was on holiday in East Grinstead when this important update occurred.

Yes, yes, YES!

Loads of videos, including one of Richard Dimbleby and a mad staring-eyed headmaster. Yowsah!

Included are some newspaper articles on the Janet Dines caning of Lynne Simmonds and we learn that the girl was wearing navy blue knickers and tights while being caned on the bum.

Hark! The Herald Angels sing
A Christmas update would have been just the thing.

...because he updated on the eighteenth.

Roses are red, pansies are gay,
He’s gone and updated on St. Valentine’s Day!

Loads of new vids and none of them dirty
Are included in the update of March 30.

Why am I happy? Why am I gay?
Because he updated yesterday!

The fact remains that there are a lot of errors on the Friends Reuinted website. For instance, I went to an all-boys school and anyone who genuinely lived in the city where I went to school would know this, but there are three entries for females!
This has been so for two years, so clearly no-one has edited the names, and yes, I have told them, but they've just ignored my missives - nuff said!

Same with mine!

Problem is, they were BOTH Maidstone Grammar School-women don't always look any further,I suspect.

You'd think they might suss the fact that all the names in their year being Robert,John,Wayne etc is a fairly significant pointer they are in the wrong place, but no!

Or they could just be desperate for a shag for old time's sake-I've yet to be approached by one such-minded female, but you never know.


Steve M

Fair comment, but the female equivalent of my school had a totally different name!
A few girls did come over (it was only 30 yards away) for advanced maths, Russian, and physics, but that doesn't count in my book. We, of course were not allowed to go over there under any circumstances!

And no doubt the fact that you weren't allowed to go over there under any circs, naturally meant no-one ever did!!!!

Interestingly enough, there are a few bits in the Memories section of FR on the girl's Grammar, that allude to boys being spirited into heaven, sorry their VIth form common room, said boys being from our school.

The schools were actually about 2 miles apart,if not more, theirs in the leafy outer suburbs of Maidstone near the football ground, ours between two council estates, back-to-backs,a couple of leafy middle-class streets and Mote Park, on the road towards the Weald, just before it splits to Sutton & Loose respectively.

So mixed "activities" were unusual, to say the least-there were many rumours, but it isn't only Lotta who pours cold water on 2nd-hand news or facts. I did,too-the spirit of empirical research demanding I tried to get in to said common-room.

Where there's a will, there's a way-especially good if the object of your desire is actually in the IVth form, but can front using the VIth common room in the first place. What more could any gentleman do but attempt access in the circumstances?


Steve M

The latest update must be seen,
It happened on May 16.

Click on ‘Hate Mail’ to read some interesting correspondence between our favourite updater and an over-emotional woman in the Colonies.

More M/M. More M/m.

Another update.

Even more M/m.

Including some F/f at a Warwickshire Training School for Girls in 1923, with several references to “on the seat”.

Update.

An exciting new policy: all external links now open in a new browser window.

Yes, yes, YES!

An update for autumn.

Once he gets his head down, there’s no stopping him.

Spanking machines, video clips and more from those school handbooks. Cool.

Yes, I know it’s hard to believe,
He did an update on New Year’s Eve.

The first of many updates for 2008.

He’s now updating so frequently that I can’t keep up. Sorry.

Including two new links to this happy, Happy Circle. Whoopee!

cf two years ago:

As Ruby Murray sang on St. Patrick’s day:

‘Don’t you know that today’s March seventeen?
When the latest Corpun update can be seen.’


Go straight to the exciting new article on corporal punishment in British schools. Nice.

Seven new video clips. Oh yes!

It’s May! It’s May!
When all is bright and gay.

There’s loads of new stuff in The Archive 2008.

New pictures and another link to this deliriously Happy Circle.

Very, very good!

Five new video clips. Oh yes!

Having updated in late September,
He just couldn’t wait until November.

On the twenty-ninth of November
I took out my member
When he did an update.

An exciting end to an exciting year of excitement.

January brings the snow,
And another update makes me glow.

February brought the snow,
And another update, don't you know.

The March wind did blow,
We didn't have snow,
But we did get an update!

Sorry not a Corpun update but a Colin Farrell interview. Jeff Charles makes a big issue about girl CP and seems to be his focus on their buttocks(perhaps with less than noble motives judging by the model he chose for demonstrations) and who he advertised as in need of employment as a model. Colin who has never visited the USA gave sage advice on the controversial gender issue. Malaysia's reserve distinguishing the target of bottom vs hands makes sense in light of all the fuss made in USA school handbooks with gender considerations. This was a consideration in many countries in the past and the our handbooks put such an emphasis on witnessing and administering CP and differing policies it may not be a bad isea here.

I'd like to thank American Way for drawing our attention to the exchange of letters between Colin Farrell and Jeff Charles, which can be read here. Both correspondents are measured and polite, even though they have somewhat different views.

There's a paragraph from Colin's last letter which I think is worth quoting directly:

I am of course very aware that there is a sexual element for some people, as you can see from my review of Ian Gibson's book at www.corpun.com/books2.htm. I just think the sexual dimension is nowadays grossly over-discussed and over-reported, and is largely irrelevant anyway. As I say in the review, there are a lot of people who are into BDSM who have no personal experience of CP at all in their upbringing, so it makes no sense to accuse CP of being the "cause" of such tastes, not that it would matter in my view even if it was, since all sexual tastes are equally harmless as far as I am concerned, as long as they do no damage to anyone else. Nor do I think it would even matter if it could be shown that a school headmaster took some pleasure from whacking his students, if the whackings were fair and reasonable in themselves. In other spheres of life we regard people who enjoy their job as an asset; why not in this case? Clearly it would be unacceptable if he were deliberately contriving to carry out punishments that were unjustified, just for his own amusement, but I really don't think that is or was the norm, despite what you say on your website. For instance I cannot believe that the headmaster at my UK boys' high school in the early 1960s took any conscious pleasure from the, perhaps, two or three canings he dished out on average per day in his study. He was a rampantly heterosexual rugby-playing no-nonsense macho married man who, I'm sure, was just doing what he conceived to be a headmaster's duty in the culture of that time and place. I find it completely implausible to think that he might have been secretly lusting over the boys he was caning (I'm sure he was much more interested in his nubile young female secretary), or that some sadistic impulse was making him use the cane more often than was justified by the prevailing rules. We would have noticed it if that were so. Schoolboys are mostly not fools; they sense what is going on.

"In the culture of that time and place" ... that's absolutely right. As I've said before, that's what was done in those days. And to make a universal claim that boys didn't respect those teachers who whacked them is, as far as the two schools I attended were concerned, simply rubbish. It just varied from case to case. Nor do I recall any sexual overtones being present: the one perhaps slightly dodgy instance that I've mentioned in another thread was, almost certainly, a verbal outburst outburst of exasperation by a (probably) gay male teacher as he was doing what he perceived to be his duty.

But as for reintroduction: now that's an entirely different matter!

Though April showers may come your way,
They bring the flowers that bloom in May
And another update.

One morning in May, don't forget dear
That one wonderful day when we met dear
The world over was blue clover
And hearts carefree and gay
Because of the update.

June is bustin' out all over
Because he did an update.

Our favourite updater is taking a well-earned holiday in August, but will be updating again in the month following.

We hope and pray that he will remember
To keep his promise in late September.

He's back!

Lovers of M/m will want to read about the chastisement of Brian Windsor.