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school-set films

January 3 2006 at 2:16 AM
Phill 

 
As fiction is often a good indicater of historical truths, are there any non porn, school-set British films, where a schoolgirl is given or threatened with a caning/spankin/slippering from a male teacher/headmaster?

 
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Re: school-set films

January 3 2006, 9:58 AM 

In the film 'Melody',made in 1970 Mark Lester and his (12year old )girlfriend Melody are summoned to the headmasters office for playing truant to go to the seaside. The headmaster says "You know I don't belive in corporal punishment at this school,but nevertheless a lesson has to be learned" Both childeren look very nervously at each other. No punishment is shown but Mark Lester is crying when he returns to his desk.
Previously in the film,Mark Lester and Jack Wilde are slippered by the Latin master for not doing their homework. Both boys pad their bottoms with towels, but Mark Lesters are discvered and pulled out and he is slippered very hard as a result.
In the Austraialian TV series "Brides of Chirst" two teenage girls are rulered on the clothed bottom by a nun at a convet school.
The tv series "Leaving of Liverpool" inclues some three C.P. scenes including one whrer a girl is punished on the bottom with a wooden spoon.

 
 
Phill

Re: school-set films

January 3 2006, 2:49 PM 

Well so far we have Melody, but that dosen't actually have a threatened spanking for the girl does it?...the boys are caned but not the girl, is she ever threatened with corporal punishment by a male teacher? The Brides of Christ has a female nun spanking girls but not a M/F spanking. I've not seen the leaving of Liverpool does it show a girl being caned by a male teacher?

 
 
Cpt

Re: school-set films

January 3 2006, 7:22 PM 

If the girl in Melody looks nervous as though she thinks she may well be in for a spanking from the Headmaster, then it does show that when the film was made 70's? it was not unheard of for a girl to be punished by a male teacher. Otherwise it would be unrealistic and not taken seriously by the audience of the time. Did the film hint that she had been punished as well as the boy, and in the same way?

 
 

Re: school-set films

January 4 2006, 12:29 AM 

'Melody' was released in 1970, so the school conditions shown are those of the Sixties, not the Seventies. I was school myself in that era and found the film authentic apart for the silly slapstic riot which ends the film, which I belive was put in because those making the film could not think of a better ending.
The implied threat is in the girls' expression when 'corporal punishment' is mentioned. She obviously thinks that there is a real posibilty of getting her bum smacked. There is never any indication in the film what punishment, if any, the pair recieve.
It is unlikely that an offence as serious as truancy would go unpunished, but the film is fiction not a documentary.

 
 
Lotta Nonsense

Re: school-set films

January 4 2006, 12:56 PM 

The British film industry has shown us countless images of teenage boys being whacked on the bum by male teachers but we appear to be struggling to find one instance in filmland where such a punishment was received by a teenage girl.

Why should they not portray teenage girls being whacked on the bum by male teachers?

After all, they have not shirked from providing us with images of teenage girls being punched, kicked, whipped, stabbed, shot, raped, hanged, beheaded, burned at the stake, etc, etc, etc.

The reason might be as simple as it is obvious - could it be that (despite what the fantasists would have us believe) it was never accepted practice at any British school?

 
 
Phill

Re: school-set films

January 4 2006, 7:45 PM 

You would think there would be at least one clear non-debatable film reference to M/F school corporal punishment, wouldn't you?

How about comedy films/programmes...there is as they say many a truth spoke in jest, surely there was some saucy carry on, confessions of, on the busses, Benny Hill, picture post card type reference to a schoolgirl being spanked/caned etc. by a Headmaster?

Surely someone can think of at least one?

 
 
Phill

Re: school-set films

January 5 2006, 1:26 PM 

Actually Lotta, just watched a clip of the leaving of Liverpool and there is indeed a scene where a schoolgirl gets her bum caned by a MALE Headmaster. Ok this was set in Oz but I assume they had similar CP down under, and the punishment didn't seem to be portrayed as out of the ordinary for either the Headmaster or the English schoolgirl...Had she have come from a country where this was not the usual practice wouldn't she have made a fuss about it? E.g. you can’t cane me I’m a girl etc.?

Any more films?

 
 
Brian 4

Re: school-set films

January 5 2006, 3:32 PM 

It’s not British, but it is a male teacher punishing a female pupil.

http://www.punishmovies1.com/otk/member2/svc/start.html

It’s the second video clip in Row 9, next to ‘McCl**ntock!’

Copyright Brian4**Posts

 
 
Phill

Re: school-set films

January 5 2006, 7:06 PM 

Yes that is a German film, the teacher brakes the 'never spank in anger' rule. This certainly isn't the formal exercise in corporal punishment that we are talking about. But it still shows that it is believable that a male teacher may have unofficially spanked a schoolgirl of the time, on rare occasions…or under extreme provocation.

But still no British school film/TV, M/F CP, which is a bit strange...any more suggestions?

 
 
Anon.

The Leaving of Liverpool

January 6 2006, 6:47 AM 

The girl is in fact an orphan sent to work as a slavey (ill-paid household servant). She stands up to her housewife mistress and is taken to the orphanage principal to be dealt with. He takes a cane from a repository and tells her to raise her frock. She is punished standing up. We don't see the lower half of her body, but it is quite apparent that she has only lifted the frock enough to uncover her calves. Caning the calves was in fact a common punishment for girls in Australian schools, particularly those run by the church. 'It really hurt', I was told by one who knows.

 
 
Phill

Re: The Leaving of Liverpool

January 6 2006, 9:50 PM 

I guess that doesn't count then...its not looking too good, come on guys you must be able to think of some more? got to prove lotta wrong!

 
 
Be at leso

Re: The Leaving of Liverpool

January 7 2006, 12:04 PM 

There was an episode of Grange Hill, (no not the well known one where Cathy gets the cane from what’s her name?) the one where Mr Bronson is telling off a dark haired girl for not wearing the school uniform properly. The girl is unmoved by her reprimand and Mr Bronson speaks the threatening line 'let me remind you that we still have the cane at this school' or something to that effect. The girl looks a little concerned for a second or two, but then when old Bronson looks away the cheeky girl sticks her tongue out at him.

No one seems to remember the scene which is funny because it seems to have been copied by every bad spanking film I've ever sat through!

Not really a M/f spanking scene but perhaps an implied one?

 
 
Phill

Re: The Leaving of Liverpool

January 7 2006, 9:54 PM 

Are there any more British film or TV examples of M/F CP????

 
 
Sill Lee Asso

Any more British

February 12 2006, 6:36 PM 

There is famous scene in THE HAPPY VALLEY which start as F/f and change to M/f. If you like very brutal then yes please.

 
 
alaric

Re: Any more British

February 12 2006, 6:57 PM 

Yes, but the Happy Valley is about domestic CP, which isn't what we're talking about here.

It seems that movies, whether serious or comic, never even alluded to this. This doesn't mean it NEVER happened, but it does mean that it was not in the popular consciousness in the way that the whacking of boys undoubtedly was --or, at least, what film directors thought was the popular consciousness. Compare for instance the Jimmy Edwards TV and movie comedies (boys) with the St Trinians ones (girls), pretty close equivalents in cultural terms I should have thought. I don't remember the slightest hint of CP (of any kind, never mind on the bum) in any of the St Trinians material.


 
 

Re: Any more British

February 12 2006, 10:10 PM 

A cane is seen in one of the St Trinian's movies - there's a scene where the teachers are getting ready to fight the girls and they are arming themselves with various weapons and the Headmistress takes out a cane as if she knows how to use it.

But it certainly doesn't show any sign of being used.

 
 
alaric

Re: Any more British

February 13 2006, 4:23 PM 

Well, if true, that's rather interesting, and I stand corrected, as they say.

 
 
alaric

Re: Any more British

February 13 2006, 4:42 PM 

... but are you sure you're not thinking of "The Happiest Days of Your Life" (1950), in which a girls' school (headmistress: Margaret Rutherford) is mistakenly billeted at a boys' school (headmaster: Alastair Sim)? I have only a very dim recollection of this film but I seem to recall that the riot is a girls vs. boys thing, so if Miss Rutherford emerged from the cupboard with a cane (an unsurprising thing to find in a boys' school at the time), it probably wasn't for use on her "gels".

 
 
Deus ex Machina

Re: Any more British

February 13 2006, 7:42 PM 

The cane did feature in the St Trinians films, Belles of St Trininans I think, and was taken out and waved quite obviously by Alistair Sim as the Headmistress prior to going to quell the fourth form insurrection. Ronald Searle did produce at least one 'St Trinians' cartoon showing a mistress holding a cane, in the case shown in the URL given below the girls have just strung her up, presumably after attempting to actually use it! It certainly was not unusual for the early fifties date of the film.

http://users.netmatters.co.uk/ju90/ron.htm

try around ron6

Incidentally, the rest of the website this is on, and links, are well worth looking at for St T fans.

 
 

Re: Any more British

February 13 2006, 8:10 PM 

No - definitely one of the St Trinian's films - I watched them again (well, except Wildcats or whatever it is) just last year, and I don't think I've ever seen the film you're describing but will now be looking for it.

We used to use a variation on the St Trinian's song at my school as a sports war cry. I've always loved it. Though we would have been dead if we'd acted like them.

 
 
Phill3

'The Happiest Days'

February 13 2006, 9:21 PM 

This is a super film. Click on the main picture, which features girls in knickers, for more stuff.

http://www.uq.net.au/~zzdmcana/StTrinians/happiestdays.html


 
 
Steve M

Re: 'The Happiest Days'

February 14 2006, 9:16 PM 

Don't forget that famous film in which school children in skirts are caned quite regularly by male teachers.

OK, I'm winding you up-it's THE DOLLAR BOTTOMS I'm on about & the schoolBOYS in it wear kilts as part of the uniform. The chancer in this sells his fellow pupils insurance against the event of getting whacked, which consists of 6 across the gym shorts.

Unfortunately, along with that other homoerotic epic Sebastien by Derek Jarman, The Dollar Bottoms is best viewed with subtitles. Mr Jarman shot his film in LATIN, hence the English subtitles-The Dollar Boys are just VERY Broad filmic Scots and totally incomprehensible. Bit like Gregory's Girl, except Dee Hepburn never gets the slippering her hairstyle alone deserves in that one!

A public school walloping by the Head Boy is administered to Malcolm McDowell in IF, of course, whilst we're on the namecheck circuit.

 
 
American Way

Re: school-set films

November 1 2010, 8:26 PM 

Christine Tremarco Leaving Liverpool. Naughty Student becomes a naughty teacher. Dr Dominum caned girls in Australia. Why standing? Bottom linked to you tube.

CLICK CLICK

CLICK

 
 
American Way

Re: school-set films

November 1 2010, 9:24 PM 

The gremlins are at it again. happy.gif Try this link for you tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMylGxPcjVk

 
 

Another_Lurker

The Leaving of Liverpool

November 2 2010, 12:04 AM 

Hi American Way. With regard to the caning of the 15 year old Christine Tremarco playing Lily in the Australian TV mini-series 'The Leaving of Liverpool' you ask above:

Why standing?

There has been a great deal of discussion of this issue on this estimable Forum, as an index search for "leaving of liverpool" will indicate. Indeed, there are references earlier in this thread.

I hope very much that the caning was not a real one, and that the intention was merely to suggest that she was being caned on the backs of the bare thighs or calves. She is told to raise her dress, but the angle of the cane strokes certainly suggests a taget lower than the bottom. Girls were often punished on the backs of their thighs in the UK, though not, I think, very often with a cane. In this case the film is Australian and a poster earlier in this thread says here that:

Caning the calves was in fact a common punishment for girls in Australian schools, particularly those run by the church.

I have no idea if this is correct. Those with knowledge of these matters seem to agree that caning on either area would be quite excrutiating and more painful than being caned on the clothed bottom, as well as leaving readily visible evidence of the punishment 'pour encourager les autres'.

Im the absence of a definitive statement you will have to come to your own conclusion as to the target. In view of the angle of the strokes I an inclined to think it was intended to suggest the thighs, but Anon, whom I link above, deduces somehow that Lily only lifted enough of the mid calf length frock to expose her calves. Ah the insoluble mysteries of the past! We turn now to a discussion of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin ....... happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: school-set films

December 2 2011, 4:19 PM 

First is a scene of school corporal punishment outside the traditions of the UK and certainly not the American Way. Rather brutal. The second are boys being punished as they venerate icons. Where would the second film be taken place?

http://youtu.be/wRF31wbVVlE

http://youtu.be/uwghKt18TRQ


 
 


Leaving of Scouseland/Angels on pins

December 2 2011, 7:02 PM 

Good evening once again young master Another_Lurker.

Me,Ithink,rite,dat de scouse gerl gettn caned,yeah,wuz only standin up so's we cd see de fayshull reactshun. Knoworramean? Yooz neva see it landin anywhere, just 'er gob if yer follow me r kid. [yes colonial viewers,some of the good citizens of Liverpool,England do talk like that. The Beatles wasn't a joke. But do not,do not,ask ANLurker to replicate the accent from his part of our Sceptic Isle. The computer may crash.]

These angels. Are we talking metric or imperial?


 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: school-set films

December 3 2011, 4:14 AM 

Hi American Way,

I think both your videos above are Russian - or at least a former USSR country. Punishment on the bare bottom stretched out face down seems to be a 'tradition' in parts of that area. I'm not convinced that either is set in a school, but your guess is as good as mine! happy.gif

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Leaving of the East Midlands coalfield/Angels on pins

December 3 2011, 4:52 AM 

Ey up Garshin mi duck, ay yer erd owt? Them Angels 'an them pins, av tod thee 'an I'sll tell thee na more [ah, the joys of my native tongue, the melifluous music of the mining Midlands, but it's easier to speak than to write happy.gif] as St. Thomas Aquinas tells us, ' we must not think of angels as if they were corporeal, and that, for an angel, it makes no difference whether the sphere of his activity be the point of a needle or a continent'. In answer to your query therefore, it follows that they are neither metric nor imperial - or something like that anyway! happy.gif

 
 
Scotty the Occasional Poster

Re: school-set films

December 3 2011, 6:44 PM 

The First Russian film is "The Childhood of Maxim Gorky". Gorky is the boy protected by his grandmother. Do not bother buying this on DVD as the politcaally correcct have now removed this scene in its entirety.

Annoyingly I have seen the second Russian film but cannot recall its name. The film is mainly about a young Russian Teacher set during the early post revolutionary period. The boy being "admonished" is one of his pupils. It is available on line from a Russian video site (a well known one with initials BK).

Scotty


 
 
KK

Re: Films set in schools

December 4 2011, 12:42 AM 

Scotty the Occasional Poster wrote, in part:


The First Russian film is "The Childhood of Maxim Gorky". Gorky is the boy protected by his grandmother. Do not bother buying this on DVD as the politcally correct have now removed this scene in its entirety.



I suspect it is rather more sinister than this. Rather than the politically correct doing anything there is now a lot of self censorship by those who do not want trouble. It seems to affect almost everything. Bland is safest. Pleasant is best. Do not risk making people think.


The Childhood of Maxim Gorky, tells the story of Aleksei Peshkov a 12 year old boy, living in 19th Century Russia, who would later be known as Maxim Gorky, possibly Russia's most famous and celebrated novelist and dramatist. Made in 1938, the film is based on Gorky's autobiography 'My Childhood', and is rich and powerful film which will capture your attention from the beginning.




 
 
Mockzy

Re: school-set films

December 4 2011, 1:34 PM 

Du är inte klok, Madicken /You're Out of Your Mind, Maggie (1979)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079087/

In one scene, Mia is caned by the Headmaster for stealing his wallet.
She has to bend over in front of the class, and is given 2 strokes, and would have received more if Madicken hadn't begged the Headmaster to stop.

However, this is a Swedish film, so it doesn't correctly fit in this thread.

 
 
prof.n

Re: school-set films

December 5 2011, 2:37 AM 


Just for the record here is a new high quality posting of the famous 'Kathy' caning scene from grange hill discussed elsewhere on the forum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJa3x9FjPGE&feature=related

The caning is at about 17 minutes in .

 
 
Oliver

Welsh film

December 12 2011, 12:01 PM 

This clip was referred in another thread. The film is Welsh.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/198833/message/1322990401/Video+of+schoolgirl+caning

 
 
American Way

Class of 1999

January 8 2014, 5:49 AM 

Robot teachers have been secretly placed in the schools where the students have run amok. The teachers do a good job of controlling the unruly youngsters, until they go too far and some students get suspicious.

CLICK

 
 
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