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January 3 2006 at 2:16 AM
Phill 

 
As fiction is often a good indicater of historical truths, are there any non porn, school-set British films, where a schoolgirl is given or threatened with a caning/spankin/slippering from a male teacher/headmaster?

 
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jimny462

Re: school-set films

January 3 2006, 9:58 AM 

In the film 'Melody',made in 1970 Mark Lester and his (12year old )girlfriend Melody are summoned to the headmasters office for playing truant to go to the seaside. The headmaster says "You know I don't belive in corporal punishment at this school,but nevertheless a lesson has to be learned" Both childeren look very nervously at each other. No punishment is shown but Mark Lester is crying when he returns to his desk.
Previously in the film,Mark Lester and Jack Wilde are slippered by the Latin master for not doing their homework. Both boys pad their bottoms with towels, but Mark Lesters are discvered and pulled out and he is slippered very hard as a result.
In the Austraialian TV series "Brides of Chirst" two teenage girls are rulered on the clothed bottom by a nun at a convet school.
The tv series "Leaving of Liverpool" inclues some three C.P. scenes including one whrer a girl is punished on the bottom with a wooden spoon.

 
 
Phill

Re: school-set films

January 3 2006, 2:49 PM 

Well so far we have Melody, but that dosen't actually have a threatened spanking for the girl does it?...the boys are caned but not the girl, is she ever threatened with corporal punishment by a male teacher? The Brides of Christ has a female nun spanking girls but not a M/F spanking. I've not seen the leaving of Liverpool does it show a girl being caned by a male teacher?

 
 
Cpt

Re: school-set films

January 3 2006, 7:22 PM 

If the girl in Melody looks nervous as though she thinks she may well be in for a spanking from the Headmaster, then it does show that when the film was made 70's? it was not unheard of for a girl to be punished by a male teacher. Otherwise it would be unrealistic and not taken seriously by the audience of the time. Did the film hint that she had been punished as well as the boy, and in the same way?

 
 
jimny 462

Re: school-set films

January 4 2006, 12:29 AM 

'Melody' was released in 1970, so the school conditions shown are those of the Sixties, not the Seventies. I was school myself in that era and found the film authentic apart for the silly slapstic riot which ends the film, which I belive was put in because those making the film could not think of a better ending.
The implied threat is in the girls' expression when 'corporal punishment' is mentioned. She obviously thinks that there is a real posibilty of getting her bum smacked. There is never any indication in the film what punishment, if any, the pair recieve.
It is unlikely that an offence as serious as truancy would go unpunished, but the film is fiction not a documentary.

 
 
Lotta Nonsense

Re: school-set films

January 4 2006, 12:56 PM 

The British film industry has shown us countless images of teenage boys being whacked on the bum by male teachers but we appear to be struggling to find one instance in filmland where such a punishment was received by a teenage girl.

Why should they not portray teenage girls being whacked on the bum by male teachers?

After all, they have not shirked from providing us with images of teenage girls being punched, kicked, whipped, stabbed, shot, raped, hanged, beheaded, burned at the stake, etc, etc, etc.

The reason might be as simple as it is obvious - could it be that (despite what the fantasists would have us believe) it was never accepted practice at any British school?

 
 
Phill

Re: school-set films

January 4 2006, 7:45 PM 

You would think there would be at least one clear non-debatable film reference to M/F school corporal punishment, wouldn't you?

How about comedy films/programmes...there is as they say many a truth spoke in jest, surely there was some saucy carry on, confessions of, on the busses, Benny Hill, picture post card type reference to a schoolgirl being spanked/caned etc. by a Headmaster?

Surely someone can think of at least one?

 
 
Phill

Re: school-set films

January 5 2006, 1:26 PM 

Actually Lotta, just watched a clip of the leaving of Liverpool and there is indeed a scene where a schoolgirl gets her bum caned by a MALE Headmaster. Ok this was set in Oz but I assume they had similar CP down under, and the punishment didn't seem to be portrayed as out of the ordinary for either the Headmaster or the English schoolgirl...Had she have come from a country where this was not the usual practice wouldn't she have made a fuss about it? E.g. you can’t cane me I’m a girl etc.?

Any more films?

 
 
Brian 4

Re: school-set films

January 5 2006, 3:32 PM 

It’s not British, but it is a male teacher punishing a female pupil.

http://www.punishmovies1.com/otk/member2/svc/start.html

It’s the second video clip in Row 9, next to ‘McCl**ntock!’

Copyright Brian4**Posts

 
 
Phill

Re: school-set films

January 5 2006, 7:06 PM 

Yes that is a German film, the teacher brakes the 'never spank in anger' rule. This certainly isn't the formal exercise in corporal punishment that we are talking about. But it still shows that it is believable that a male teacher may have unofficially spanked a schoolgirl of the time, on rare occasions…or under extreme provocation.

But still no British school film/TV, M/F CP, which is a bit strange...any more suggestions?

 
 
Anon.

The Leaving of Liverpool

January 6 2006, 6:47 AM 

The girl is in fact an orphan sent to work as a slavey (ill-paid household servant). She stands up to her housewife mistress and is taken to the orphanage principal to be dealt with. He takes a cane from a repository and tells her to raise her frock. She is punished standing up. We don't see the lower half of her body, but it is quite apparent that she has only lifted the frock enough to uncover her calves. Caning the calves was in fact a common punishment for girls in Australian schools, particularly those run by the church. 'It really hurt', I was told by one who knows.

 
 
Phill

Re: The Leaving of Liverpool

January 6 2006, 9:50 PM 

I guess that doesn't count then...its not looking too good, come on guys you must be able to think of some more? got to prove lotta wrong!

 
 
Be at leso

Re: The Leaving of Liverpool

January 7 2006, 12:04 PM 

There was an episode of Grange Hill, (no not the well known one where Cathy gets the cane from what’s her name?) the one where Mr Bronson is telling off a dark haired girl for not wearing the school uniform properly. The girl is unmoved by her reprimand and Mr Bronson speaks the threatening line 'let me remind you that we still have the cane at this school' or something to that effect. The girl looks a little concerned for a second or two, but then when old Bronson looks away the cheeky girl sticks her tongue out at him.

No one seems to remember the scene which is funny because it seems to have been copied by every bad spanking film I've ever sat through!

Not really a M/f spanking scene but perhaps an implied one?


    
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Phill

Re: The Leaving of Liverpool

January 7 2006, 9:54 PM 

Are there any more British film or TV examples of M/F CP????

 
 
Sill Lee Asso

Any more British

February 12 2006, 6:36 PM 

There is famous scene in THE HAPPY VALLEY which start as F/f and change to M/f. If you like very brutal then yes please.

 
 
alaric

Re: Any more British

February 12 2006, 6:57 PM 

Yes, but the Happy Valley is about domestic CP, which isn't what we're talking about here.

It seems that movies, whether serious or comic, never even alluded to this. This doesn't mean it NEVER happened, but it does mean that it was not in the popular consciousness in the way that the whacking of boys undoubtedly was --or, at least, what film directors thought was the popular consciousness. Compare for instance the Jimmy Edwards TV and movie comedies (boys) with the St Trinians ones (girls), pretty close equivalents in cultural terms I should have thought. I don't remember the slightest hint of CP (of any kind, never mind on the bum) in any of the St Trinians material.


 
 
Halfpenny

Re: Any more British

February 12 2006, 10:10 PM 

A cane is seen in one of the St Trinian's movies - there's a scene where the teachers are getting ready to fight the girls and they are arming themselves with various weapons and the Headmistress takes out a cane as if she knows how to use it.

But it certainly doesn't show any sign of being used.

 
 
alaric

Re: Any more British

February 13 2006, 4:23 PM 

Well, if true, that's rather interesting, and I stand corrected, as they say.

 
 
alaric

Re: Any more British

February 13 2006, 4:42 PM 

... but are you sure you're not thinking of "The Happiest Days of Your Life" (1950), in which a girls' school (headmistress: Margaret Rutherford) is mistakenly billeted at a boys' school (headmaster: Alastair Sim)? I have only a very dim recollection of this film but I seem to recall that the riot is a girls vs. boys thing, so if Miss Rutherford emerged from the cupboard with a cane (an unsurprising thing to find in a boys' school at the time), it probably wasn't for use on her "gels".

 
 
Deus ex Machina

Re: Any more British

February 13 2006, 7:42 PM 

The cane did feature in the St Trinians films, Belles of St Trininans I think, and was taken out and waved quite obviously by Alistair Sim as the Headmistress prior to going to quell the fourth form insurrection. Ronald Searle did produce at least one 'St Trinians' cartoon showing a mistress holding a cane, in the case shown in the URL given below the girls have just strung her up, presumably after attempting to actually use it! It certainly was not unusual for the early fifties date of the film.

http://users.netmatters.co.uk/ju90/ron.htm

try around ron6

Incidentally, the rest of the website this is on, and links, are well worth looking at for St T fans.

 
 
 
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