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My contribution is at:

http://rezlenski.tripod.com/case.htm

I want to enter all my stories. I was bullied at school by Sharon and Samantha and lots of other girls because I asked to see there knickers on Mondays, but I loved Miss Lawrence with a passion. My stories are at

http://www.network54.com/Forum/198833/thread/1038157020/last-1110449158/Childhood+dreams

http://rezlenski.tripod.com\snapping.doc


Man, this story competition has really taken off!!!

Yes please want to read story but link no work. Can do cut 'n' paste and put story here?

(Sill Lee Asso start) Yes please want to read story but link no work. Can do cut 'n' paste and put story here? (SillLee Asso end)


Try this link instead.

http://rezlenski.tripod.com\snapping.htm

Is good. Is very good. Can put cycle short, like worn by Veron and E Ling Broadway and other fantasistes from Singapore and Walthamstow into next story? Yes please.

Judging by the posting times, could silly asso be dear dear Rez?

(start Humble) Judging by the posting times, could silly asso be dear dear Rez? ((end)

Hey Sherlock, go back to detective school. Ask the moderator if we are, he can check IP addresses and let you know if they are the same or different.

Mr. Asso and I are not the same person. I have posted using other pseudonyms for sure but damn my opinions and positions are so identifiable as to make name changes more than a little transparent.

No. I asked Big John and he say that I am not the same person as RezRexRezza. I am here as antidote to fantasistites in Singapore, Formosa and Filthistan-Walthamstow who write about caning on cycle short with tunic lifted by headmistress in Malaysia. Yes please.

The word was could?
IP addys are irrevereent they changeee every time one loggy on.

(start Observer Again) The word was could? (end Observer Again)

The "could" suggested deception. The "could" suggested the creation of a dialog back and forth between the same pers0j to create some sort of ridiculous meaningless deceptive conversation. Next time you have a question about my honesty, feel free to email me.

Rez get a life, if you read your own posts you would realise how pretentious you are!

(Observer)Rez get a life, if you read your own posts you would realise how pretentious you are!(Observer)

Discussion that gets beyond "Whack that ass." is a bit too advanced for you, huh?
Tell you what, if you don't like what I have to say, no one is forcing you to read it. But obviously you are concerned enough to try to catch me is some deception. Observer, I think it is you who truly needs to "get a life".

Rez, you come across as a typical teacher, you are full of your own importance.
For instance you have gone to great lengths to rubish Deans posts which are both informed and well researched.
You have total belief in yourself to the exclusion of the rights of others to have an opinion.
You imply that those with a spanking fetish are closet child abusers.
You are nothing short of a bully.

I love you too, Observer.

And Dean is more than capable of sticking up for himself. I am sure he doesn't need your protection from big, bad Rez.

(Observer states)You imply that those with a spanking fetish are closet child abusers.
You are nothing short of a bully.(Observer ends)

Lies and damnable lies! I never implied that spanking fetishists are closet child abusers. I stated opposition to the practices of spanking fetishists who enthusiastic support the practice of CP with children and who personally engage in that act themselves acknowledging that the behavior is the focus of their sexual fantasies. I think it is immoral and I think it is dangerous. And I do believe that those who are aroused by the corporal punishment of children and who engage in the practice using their position and authority to do so with impunity while they get their rocks off are sexually abusive. That I am not implying...I am stating it flat out.

You don't have to agree, but like it or not I have right to be suspicious of such individuals and voice my concern.

It is amazing to me that I am a "bully" in your mind because I forecefully support the right of children to bodily integrity and suggest that adults should not be beating them with straps and canes and paddles. But those who beat children with canes, and straps and paddles are just good disciplinarians in your eyes. Some might call you the bully but if it makes me a bully because I challenge those who support beating children for their own good then I will wear the name proudly.

Ok then, RezRex, you’re not a bully, but are you, as claimed by Observer, pretentious?

We’ve had loads of pretentious people on here. There was that bloke Markus a few years ago and then there was Biggles who crash-landed at Shoreham Airport several times and has now returned as ‘mimi’. But the most pretentious of all, apart de moi, is Big John - he’s a plumber from Hollingbury.

Copyright Brian4PretentiosaBonaPosts

From ‘The Alamo’

‘Hollingbury’ - I like the sound of the word. It means people can live free, talk free, go or come, buy or sell, be drunk or sober, however they choose. Some words give you a feeling. Hollingbury is one of those words that makes me tight in the throat - the same tightness a man gets when he lights his first blowlamp or replaces his first cold-tap washer or gets his first flux. Some words can give you a feeling that make your radiators warm. Hollingbury is one of those words.

Brian, if certain posters here think I'm pretentious. I don't care.
If not being pretentious means having no alternative opinion to the pro child smack opinions expressed by others here or stating my opinion as I see fit or limiting myself to one syllable grunts, then so be it.

No one is forced to read anything I write.

No one if forced to respond to anything I write.

Zoot alhoors je ave' never ow you zay crash landed at Shoreham. je ave say dreeven past eet onz or dous.
Sometimes a grunt can convey more meaning than a whole diatribe of words.
The anti CP at school mob have had their way and the end result has been a disasterous breakdown in discipline and teachers moral.
It could not happen to a better group of left wing liberal individuals.
Still who cares in the great scheme of things.

(mimi starts)The anti CP at school mob have had their way and the end result has been a disasterous breakdown in discipline and teachers moral.
It could not happen to a better group of left wing liberal individuals.
Still who cares in the great scheme of things. (mimi ends)

Ah one of those ranting right wing conservatives who attributes all things good to whacking children on the ass instead of really solving problems! I know the Neanderthal type very well.

Apparently the problem is really that your administrators haven't a clue about what real discipline is and how to go about it without carrying a big stick. This certainly leave a void, doesn't it? It's not that there are not many, many ways to instill discipline without hitting kids but apparently those in your educational system are too stupid to do something that makes sense instead of sitting on their asses and blaming the lack of beating. So you end up with out of control kids who are not hit and blame the lack of the stick rather than the lack of educational leadership, the lack of creativity in working with children, remaining uninformed or the lack of any effort to provide a workable substitute.

Ah bring back your damn stick and whack away, it seems to be all you guys understand and want...but don't try to blame indiscipline on lack of CP. It certainly is not true. It may be a fact where your are because you have no plan to provide discipline without hitting but in many places, the stick is gone and children are no worse behaved and often better behaved. If you were right in your assessment, all the states in the US where CP has been banned for decades would be falling apart and the Southern and Midwestern states where it is still used would be the shining stars. In fact the non-cp states have no more behavioral issues and higher academic achievement. Go figure.

And of course in the grand scheme of things you don't care. After all it's only children your beating. Big deal,right?

I have never struck a child in my life and I would like to think that even if I was a teacher in a society that used CP at school that I would not want to use it.
However we do not live in an ideal world and the facts speak for themselves.
School children were more polite and obedient in the days when the cane was available, it should perhaps have been used less, I don't know.
What I do know is that a growing amount school children nowadays use every devious PC trick to frustrate their teachers and disrupt their classes.
I speak as someone who knows an amount of teachers. They are avoiding state school if they can and trying to work in private schools where the parents pay for and expect good results.
I know two well qualified friends who recently undertook training to become teachers. They both had to do a bit of time in inner city state schools. Both stuck it for six months. Their comments were roughly " why should I waste my time and knowledge on kids that take no notice of anything I say" They are back in commerce.
My best friend, a left wing socialist liberal teacher has now admited to me that she and their type while acting for what they thought was freedom and kindness have destroyed generations by their self indulgent ways.
Picture the scene:-
2006 kid is cheeky in class, walks out of lesson saying " I will tell my mum you shouted at me etc. Teacher can do nothing but go through the dreary discipline procedure to the expense of the other kids.
1966 kid is cheeky in class, gets sent to the head, comes back suitably caned. No more disruption, for a while at least.
2006 kid won't do PE, forgets kit, goes on about their human rights etc etc and gets away with it.
1966 Kid forgets PE kit, gets the slipper and is made to wear a spare kit, all the others realise its better to just remember their kit and get on with it.
Now which generation has produced more responsible, polite young people that are prepared to enter society as law abiding peacefull citizens?
If it takes a few examples but results in a better environment for all concerned then the can is a minor thing to endure compared with rampant dissobedience and lawlessness.
Sorry if its all a bit simplistic and does not cater for the special needs of a few yobs but tough thats what life is about and a disciplined approach is a better preperation for real life than letting young people get away with bad behaviour and then finding its not tollerated untill its to late to get anyware.
Now I cannot see anything Neandrthal in that attitude, to my mind a strict teacher with a cane is less damaging than a shouting but ignored teacher who is letting both thems elves and their charges down.
BTW Neandrathals appeared to have been the superior of the species at their time, I don't know for sure though becasue I was not there. I have though lived through the destruction of society but liberal do gooders who usually do very good for themselves at the expense of others.
Mimi, off to Shoreham via Peacehaven..........

In a relatively ideal world, school CP would be meted out only by responsible adults only to those who deserved it.

However, in the real world, it is/was too often meted out by psychologically-disturbed sexual predators merely to satisfy their own depraved lusts.

There has never been a society on Earth that advocates openly the sexual torture of its children and yet our most civilised modern societies do or recently did allow such practices for 'the greater good' of all concerned.

I am by no means opposed in principle to CP when used as a last resort by a decent responsible teacher upon a child who simply refuses to behave properly. However, we cannot ensure that such rights of punishment will not be abused by INdecent IRresponsible teachers - indeed, we know they will be so abused - and we must therefore ask whether or not we are prepared to allow some of our children to be sexually tortured by perverts in order that most of them will behave properly.

I don't believe it Lotta, even though you are in coventry and I am not corresponding with you, I actually agree with you for once!
Last resort is reasonable, there was a bit too much CP at my schools but I am unsure as to the motives.
I would like to think it was the modus operandi at the time rather than a desire to fullfill personal perversions.

(Lotta begins) I am by no means opposed in principle to CP when used as a last resort by a decent responsible teacher upon a child who simply refuses to behave properly. (Lotta end)

I would suggest that the "last resort" principle truly does not exist. Whenever an option is given as a last resort, it frequently becomes a fast-approached first resort. In places where CP is not used but suspension is, suspension is supposed to be the "last resort" yet its use is common and frequent. The variable that needs to be controlled is the use of punishment and discipline by the "responsible teacher" not the specific sanction.

If CP were a last resort it would be used frequently just as suspension is in non-CP districts. In practice "last resort" doesn't work.

As for children who "refuse to behave properly", I suspect in such cases the issues are far mor complex that what can be fixed with being whacked with a stick just as adults who refuse to behave properly are infrequently fixed with fines, incarcerations, etc.

I am curious Lotta, are you also by no means opposed in principle to CP using belts, straps, canes, paddles and other implements with children? Are you also by no means opposed in principle to CP that leaves track marks, bruises, black and blues, abrasions, etc on children? What exactly qualifies as the CP for use with children that you are by no means opposed to?

I am by no means opposed to any measure of force which might reasonably be deemed the minimum necessary to maintain order among any group of people whether they be a class in school or an entire nation.

There is, furthermore, no suggestion that a measure of last resort should be rare - only that is should not be resorted to before less harsh methods have been tried without success.

As for children who refuse to behave properly, a teacher's job is not to solve their problems, it is merely to render them non-disruptive to his efforts re teaching the rest of the class.

Personally, I'd shoot them through the head if the law would allow.

(mimi starts) I have never struck a child in my life and I would like to think that even if I was a teacher in a society that used CP at school that I would not want to use it.(mimi ends)

So you would prefer others do your dirty work for you? Send the kid off to the Head and have him do it so you can wash your hands of the kids pain?

(mimi starts) However we do not live in an ideal world and the facts speak for themselves. School children were more polite and obedient in the days when the cane was available,(mimi)

Are you so short sighted to think that the controlling variable in this thing is the use of the cane. Try to imagine society back then and know---the only differenc you see is the use of the cane? Come on. Back then 50% of the children sitting in class didn't come from divorced homes and were not shuffled back and forth between mom and dad three days a week. Back then mom was usually in the home in most instances caring for the family. In far greater numbers, adults tried hard to meet the emotional and physical needs of the children they produced. Now 6 year old are in day care from 7 A.M. to 6 P.M. 5 days a week. Back then there was an extended family that helped out. Now mobility has changed all that. Back then eveyone in the neighborhood knew everyone else and adults took care of all the kids in the neighborhood. Today that does not happen. Back then children were not plopped in front of TV sets for hours upon hours. The TV is now the new babysitter which exposes kid not to wholesome values but to sitcoms where dad is an idiot, multiple grisly murders every night shown in graphic detail and details of all sorts of sexual behavior. They have unsupervised access to computers and we all know the sort of stuff they are finding. We want them to be children but do everything to make them adults early. We provide far less guidance and interest. But you must be right the only difference that matters is the cane.

(mimi starts)I speak as someone who knows an amount of teachers.(mimi ends)

I speak as someone who has been directly involved in goverment school education for almost 4 decades.

(mimi starts)My best friend, a left wing socialist liberal teacher has now admited to me that she and their type while acting for what they thought was freedom and kindness have destroyed generations by their self indulgent ways.(mimi ends)

That your friend is inclined to give up doesn't support bringing back beating children. It does, however, show how frustration provokes a need for a quick, irresponsible fix.

Mimi start) Picture the scene:-(mimi ends)

I really don't have to picture anything. I have worked "in the trenches" all of my professional life. Your scenario is exagerrated to prove a point although I am sure it is based on fact.

Your 2006/1966 scenarios are simplistic and only true in your mind. Your scenario are created to prove your point and support hitting children.

(mimi)Now which generation has produced more responsible, polite young people that are prepared to enter society as law abiding peacefull citizens? (mimi end)

I refer you again to the many things I listed above that have far greater impact on children than caning. You are another of those who think the cane has magical powers. It isn't. I refer again to the states in the U.S. where paddling is and is not legal. There is no significant different between the behavior overall of students in non-paddling and paddling states. The academic achievement level of students in non-paddling states is higher. The vandalism rate at schools in paddling states is higher.
Children in the U.S in 2006 are definitely different from the children of 1966 in the U.S. The difference is not related to the use of CP in schools. In 1956 when I was in school, CP was not used and I would venture to say that you would judge my class to be similar in behavior, manners, etc. to classes of students where you were during the same era. CP was not the controlling variable. Other factors were.

(mimi start)Now I cannot see anything Neandrthal in that attitude, to my mind a strict teacher with a cane is less damaging than a shouting but ignored teacher who is letting both thems elves and their charges down. (mimi end)

Again the typical pro-spank approach---try to validate one bad practice by saying its better than another bad practice. The choice is not between two bad practices.

Strict teachers with high standards who are good teachers exist without having to carry a cane. Nor do they need a cane to back up their authority.

The choice is not as you would like it to be between a strict teacher with a cane and an ineffective teacher without one. That is a fantasy you have created to support your pro-CP stance. It isn't a reality. This I say as an evaluator of teachers in states that both allowed and did not allow paddling. Bad teacher with paddles, had students who were paddled often but no better behaved for it. Good teachers without paddled dealt with problems effectively in non-CP ways.

(mimi)BTW Neandrathals appeared to have been the superior of the species at their time,(mimi ends)

Yes, and you would have us go back to a prehistoric times. I understand your cave man mentality. And just by virtue of the fact that you see nothing Neanderthal about small children being beaten with sticks says it all.

(mimi)I have though lived through the destruction of society but liberal do gooders who usually do very good for themselves at the expense of others.(mimi end)

Standard right wing conservative clap trap! I would expect someone of your ilk to believe that the desire for real children be free from assault by adults carrying sticks or strap is nothing more than a do-gooder ranting. "I have never struck a child in my life," you say. Yes you have. You may not have done so personally but you have lent your support to it and are as culpable as if you were the one personally raising the stick, slamming it down, and creating the welt.

What can I say, Lotta.
I find your response evil.
What more can be said? Nothing.

OMG I agree with Lotta again.
OMG I actually agree with some of Rez's points.
Problem is Rez that you take simple statements and turn them inside out to suit your own pretentios ideals.
Which is typical of some teachers sarcastic efforts to bellittle others who cannot defend themselves.
You resort to making uninformed comments as to my behaviour and intelect.
Any chance that your behaviour may be responsible for some of the problems in schools.
Easy isn't it, blame the parents, blame society but you don't for one moment consider that your actions in your chosen field may in fact be at least part of the cause.
I used to look up to my teachers, many of them had been around and done real things in the adult world.
This is sadly lacking today when many teachers come from sitting in the class to " controling" the class in one tiny step called Uni, or big kids school.
You may be Gods gift in the class room, you may be elite and wonderful, but not everyone can aspire to your pretentious bullying infliction of your now outdated "modern" beliefs which have come home to roost at the expense of the rest of us poor citizens.
A bit like "new labour" same old rubish.
Britain has had its 20 year experiment and it has failed two generations.

Daphne knocked on the door of the headmistress at end of afternoon school.

“Come in!” said the headmistress.

Daphne entered the study and the headmistress said, “This is the third time that you have been late for school this term. I am going to cane you. Lift up your skirt, bend over and touch your toes.”

Daphne did as she was told and the headmistress applied six firm strokes to Daphne’s navy-blue-knickered bottom.

“Let that be a lesson to you”, said the headmistress. “Now you can go home and have your tea.”

THE END

Will this do?