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schoolgirl slipperings and the like

April 26 2006 at 10:13 PM
Paul 

 
Hi,
My thoughts on the issue of girls receiving corporal punishment in state schools, prior to abolition, always leaned towards an opinion that it hardly ever happened, if indeed, at all. I'm sure you can all appreciate my feelings when I tell yout that at every school I attended, from junior to secondary, girls were never subject to copporal punishment at all, whilst boys were. Neither did I know of any girls slippered or caned at other schools during the period of my childhood. Quite often I can recall girls who lived in my neighbourhood saying, "Girls don't get the cane!" most gleefully, on my raising of the subject

My thoughts on the subject remained unchanged even when I got to hear about one ot two incidents in my later teens. For example, two of my ex-girlfriends were caned on their hands at sixteen, and a work colleague told me that his daughter was caned on the hand during the late 1970's, also at sixteen. I could only imagine that these three incidents were very rare, despite my learning about all the famous incidents soon after that time. I also thought that any rare occasions that did arise, resulting in a girl being caned or slippered at school, must surely involve a female member of staff carrying it out. Wrong! The above three incidents were all carried out by male staff.

However, my thoughts were very much changed even further with the advent of Friends Reunited. Once I saw the hundreds upon hundreds of postings on the site, where ex-female pupils mentioned receiving corporal punishment, I could hardly believe what I was reading. What struck me most was the sheer volume of girls slippered on the bottom by male staff. I'm still stunned by this today. Never in my wildest moments would I have imagined this happening. Furthermore, the amount of teachers that actually marked a chalked cross on the slipper so it landed on the girl's skirt or trousers is also astounding. In fact, I found a post recently where a girl said she was slippered five strokes across the bottom from a male teacher, and his slipper bore the words, 'Kiss My Arse' on it's sole. Well! I think this was during the 1980s and the girl actually named the teacher.

Can we only assume that what is on Friends Reunited is the tip of an ice-burg that was far bigger than most of us wouild have imasgined???!!!!

In addition to this, there are also qiute a large number of posts on Friends Reunited where girls were caned on the hand by men. However, despite the huge number of girls who got their bottoms slippered by men, and the smaller number who were caned on the hands, there is so far not one single post on where a girl is caned on the bottom by a male. I find that odd when so many had their bottoms slippered.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Paul



 
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Mike

Re schiilgirl slipperings and the like

April 27 2006, 1:06 AM 

Paul

Although it is quite true that at some schools, girls could and indeed did get the slipper and the cane, some of the references to it on Friends Reunited can be misleading.

The problem is that you have to be a paid-up member to post a message, and a lot of men use their wife/partner’s membership to post messages, rather than pay another £7:50. Some put their name at the bottom of the message, but a lot don’t, giving the impression that it is a girl who was punished.

As for the lack of messages regarding girls being caned on the bottom by male teachers it just didn’t happen. Of the three women I have met over the years who have admitted to being caned at school, in every case it was on the hand by a female teacher.

My only experience of girls being punished by a male teacher was at primary school, where they would very occasional get a smack on the hand with a wooden ruler.

Mike

 
 
mimi

Re: Re schiilgirl slipperings and the like

April 27 2006, 7:05 PM 

The writer and the whole mixed class in my N london school all got the slipper one day.
I therefore saw about 16, 14 year old girls get the slipper from a male teacher.
Lotta, who was not there said I did not see it.
But I did!
Whats so amazing about it?
Lots of reports in FR and lots of female aquaintances of mine admit to it! are we all imagining it?
Mimi

 
 
Mike

Re: Re schoolgirl slipperings and the like

April 28 2006, 2:18 AM 

No MiMi, I’m sure you didn’t imagine it. As I said, at some schools, girls were caned and slippered and in some cases by male teachers.

Regarding girls being caned by male teachers, it no doubt did happen, However the vast majority of canings given to girls by teachers, male or female, were on the hands and there are few, if any, genuine references to girls being caned on the bottom by either sex on Friends Reunited.

As for the slipper, the majority of these punishments would have been given across a fully clothed behind, although there are a few references on FR to the slipper being given on the hand. Also at secondary schools, the slipper appears to have been the preserve of male, rather than female teachers. So in these schools where girls were given the slipper, it would probably not have been that uncommon for them to have be punished by a man.

Mike

 
 
batfinch

Girls

April 28 2006, 8:46 AM 

I wonder why it was thought ok to give girls the slipper.

It seems it mostly in England and Wales.

In Scotland it was the belt for both sexes and of course the States use(d) the paddle

 
 
Mimi

Re: Girls

April 28 2006, 12:38 PM 

You have got it in a nutshell Mike!
At the risk of incuring Lottas debunking, I would confirm that the majority of girls wore tight skirts ( it was the fashion) and it was applied to the seat of the skirt, hands on knees.
However pleated skirts tended to be raised ( or if short raise themselves) and the slipper would be on their underwear.
Mimi

 
 
GeorgieC

Re: Girls

April 28 2006, 4:52 PM 

Mimi

Let's just get clear what you're saying:

Of the group of girls you saw slippered in a mixed class some of them had to lift up their skirts? And presumably some didn't??

 
 
Mimi

Re: Girls

April 28 2006, 6:38 PM 

In this incident the skirts were all rather short and the effect of bending over mean't that those girls with tight skirts got it on their skirts. The act of bending over for those few with pleated skirts revealed their underwear (just).It was all done rather fast due to the numbers involved.
In other incidents where a single girl got the slipper and was wearing a pleated skirt the skirt was raised. Mainly perhaps to add to the drama? who knows.?
Lotta don't bother commenting!
Mimi

 
 
Anonymous

schoolgirl sliperings and the like

April 28 2006, 8:46 PM 

Mike,

It's Paul, who started this thread about girls being slippered in school.

Sorry, Mike, but I don't subscribe to your theory that men use their wives/partners' membership at all. If so, it could easily work the other way round too with wives using the husbands.' I can say that of every post I have found on FR, not once have I come across a message without a female name

The only near thing I found was one lady who wrote on behalf of another guy and that was not corporal punishment related.

Best wishes,

Paul

 
 
Paul

GeorgieC writing

April 28 2006, 9:07 PM 


Hi, GeorgieC,

It's Paul. Did you not at one stage write some rather excellent fiction on the schoolgirl CP theme? Pretty good stuff!

(see my thread seeking 'School CP Writers!')

Paul

 
 

schoolgirl whacking

April 28 2006, 10:16 PM 

I attended a mixed grammar school in lancs in the seventies.

Boys were caned on the trouser seat by the head but only for serious offences. I would estimate that less than 10 per cent of boys were ever caned. The slipper was more frequently used, mainly in PE or games but also sometimes by teachers in class.

Girls were theoretically eligible for the cane administered on the hand by the senior mistress but I can think of no instances of this in the seven years I was there.

In those days girls tended to be more gentile than they are these days... ie they didnt fight or smoke or do many of the things which might get boys the cane.

Hope this is of interest ....

 
 
Mike

Re schoolgirl sliperings and the like

April 29 2006, 12:41 AM 

Paul

I was not for one minute saying that the majority of references to girls getting the slipper were posted by men using their wife/partners membership. However in addition to ones where they have added their name, I have found some were the entry is under a girl’s name, but the school’s name, pupil list or school photos confirm that it was an all boys’ school. In other cases a look at the girls profile indicates that she attended two or more schools at the same time and that the circumstances in the post tend to indicate the fact that it was a boy who was involved.

Mike

 
 
Jacques

Re: Girls

April 29 2006, 7:39 AM 

"In other incidents where a single girl got the slipper and was wearing a pleated skirt the skirt was raised. Mainly perhaps to add to the drama?"

Mimi ma cherie, you leave us in suspenders!

So this girl's derriere was slippered by madame teacher, oui? Et pourquoi? Tell us the particulars!

 
 
Lotta Nonsense

Re: Re schoolgirl sliperings and the like

April 29 2006, 9:44 AM 

At my school, a male teacher once made the entire class of 15 year-old boys and girls strip stark naked before slippering them.

During this mass slippering, he would occasionally suspend his punitive efforts and make mad passionate love to the person bending over before him, regardless of their gender.

Needless to say, I escaped through an open window before it was my turn.

Could I have attended the same school as mimi?

Could mimi have been the boy who queued up twice ?

We'll never know.

 
 
Mimi

Re: Re schoolgirl sliperings and the like

April 29 2006, 10:44 AM 

Cherie Jacque, these slipperings happened over 35 years ago, I cannot remember details of exact cases other than the whole class slipperings.
What I can say is that any type of missbehaviour could result in the slipper, boys and girls alike.
For instance a boy once got sent to the Headmaster for 3 strokes of the cane on the bottom for merely dropping a pencil.
Unbelievable in this day and age but true then.
Lotta, the boys including moi were slippered first, much to the horror of the waiting girls. I had the dubious pleasure ( with the rest of the eager lads) of watching the girls get it, a ringside seat.
But I am not replying to you as I have sent you to Coventry.

 
 
GeorgieC

Re: GeorgieC writing

April 29 2006, 9:29 PM 

Hi Paul

Yes - c'est moi. At least,I did write some fiction - the quality is for others to judge.

 
 
Anonymous Dave

Re: schoolgirl whacking

May 2 2006, 3:01 PM 

James wrote "In those days girls tended to be more gentile than they are these days... ie they didnt fight or smoke or do many of the things which might get boys the cane."

Now that girls are less gentile (so presumably more jewish) are they getting the cane more often?


    
This message has been edited by larry1951 on May 2, 2006 3:06 PM


 
 
Jack

Re: Re schoolgirl sliperings and the like

May 12 2006, 8:00 AM 

In 1966 I remember the whole class getting the slipper for generally missbehaving while the teacher was absent.
On HIS return we were all sent out of class.
The boys lined up to the left of the door, the boys to the right.
Boys first, we went in one at a time and bent for a whack.
Then when all the boys were seated it was the boys turn to watch with amusement as the girls came in one by one and bent over for a whack.
A lot of the girls were really terrified and were crying even befor they were slippered.
A great true memory of a N London sec mod class whacking.
Some girls had very short skirts and the slipper got them on the base of their bottom, ie bare!
Jack


 
 
Lotta Nonsense

Re: Re schoolgirl sliperings and the like

May 12 2006, 8:26 AM 

And the name of this North London school is . . . ?

And the name of the teacher is . . . ?

I should point out that if the above story is a fantasy, Jack might be held to be guilty of libel - not against the now-probably-dead teacher but against the Education Authority that permitted such happenings.

So, may we have the names?

 
 
The real jack

Re: Re schoolgirl sliperings and the like

May 12 2006, 2:55 PM 

I did not write this on May 12th! it was copied from an earlier post? by Lotta perhaps?
As for saying where, with the lack of security on this site!don't be silly!
J

 
 
Lotta Nonsense

Re: Re schoolgirl sliperings and the like

May 12 2006, 5:47 PM 

We'll take that as an admission of fantasy.

 
 
jack

Re: Re schoolgirl sliperings and the like

May 12 2006, 7:37 PM 

We will take that as an admission of closed mindedness.
But we already knew that didn't we?
J

 
 
Paul

GeogieC writing

May 12 2006, 8:23 PM 

Hi, GeorgieC,

It's Paul again.

I for one thought yout stories were excellent! 'Old Friend' is one of your best.
I hope you are still writing! If so, I would love to see them. Maybe we could exchange?

Thanks,

Paul

 
 
Worldwide Traveller

Thomas Calton Secondary School

May 13 2006, 10:53 AM 

I remember the whole class being punished for unruly behavior.

The boys each received one whack of the slipper and the girls were given some form of written punishment.

It was unusual but not unknown for girls to receive CP and I recall one of them saying that she would rather have been whacked than receive the alternative punishment she had been given.

 
 
Wild Bill

Re: Thomas Calton Secondary School

May 13 2006, 3:21 PM 

That sort of discrimination, Richard, makes me angry, verging on wild, in fact. Those girls should have had the slipper across their cheeky little bums at Thomas Calton and every other school in the land, just like they did in Wembley (bending over, touching toes.)

 
 
Mike

Smackings

January 27 2009, 6:15 PM 

I went to a mixed infants' school in the 1970's. Smacking with a hand was the principal punishment used, with the standing in the corner or face to the wall the only alternative I remember. Both boys and girls were smacked. A smack leg (normally a single slap) was the most common punishment particularly for boys wearing shorts and girls (who always wore dresses or skirts in those days), who normally had their skirt or dress lifted just enough to expose a bare thigh. Boys wearing long trousers (there was no school uniform) were usually given 2 smacks to the bottom instead, although occassionally trousers were pulled down instead.

More severe smacking involving multiple smacks was given on the bottom for both boys and girls. Boys occassionnally had their trousers pulled down for this, but I never remember a girl being smacked with her skirt lifted. We had to do PE in our underwear and bottom smacking across pants was given to both girls and boys. This was the only time girls got smacked in their knickers. Underwear was never pulled down.

As far as I know smackings were given on the spot in public with the child standing up - no bending over or going over the knee and only a hand was ever used. There might have been smackings in private that I didn't know about - I was only smacked twice, once on the leg and once on the bottom - but I think it unlikely.

My junior school was all boys and the cane and slipper were used very occassionally, with the latter often being offered as an alternative to a detention. Both can and slipper were to the bottom and bending over required, although it was always to a clothed bottom.

 
 
Mike

Addition to the above

January 27 2009, 7:17 PM 

I will point out that in the infants school, all the teachers were female.

Girls and boys were smacked in the same way for same offences, but boys, being generally naughtier got smacked more.

Smacking was very common indeed, with several children smacked each day. Sad thing was, even though most of us got smacked occassionally, it was a small group who were smacked time and time again.

 
 
Another_Lurker

Re: schoolgirl slipperings and the like

January 27 2009, 7:51 PM 

Ah, it's good to see that someone is diligently searching the archives of this estimable Forum, especially when they resuscitate the right sort of threads! happy.gif

 
 

Slipperings etc

March 8 2009, 2:06 PM 

Girls were slippered at my school in the late 70s but only across the skirt and only from a female teacher. Also we could get a few strokes of the cane across the hand but nothing worse than that.

I should know because i had the slipper and the cane- slipper just twice and cane once.

I am now in a relationship where i need discipline from my boyfriend- enjoy him giving me cp- occasional caning across my skirt, or slipper across the knickers.





 
 
PhilUK

Girls slippered

March 9 2009, 8:20 PM 

I went to a large inner-city comprehensive school in northern England in the early to mid 1970's.
Corporal punishment was a common daily occurance, usually in the form of the plimsoll in class, for minor offences like talking and fooling around.For more serious offences it was a trip to the headmasters study for the cane.
Girls were not immune from coporal punishment, although only a small percentage to that of boys ever received any. Girls usually got away with just the slipper, always administered in private by the deputy headmistresss across their knickers with skirts raised, (I know because my younger sister was slippered for truancy and she told me). As far as the caning of girls is concerned, that was even more rare, I can only think of about 2 or 3 instances of girls receiving the cane during my time at the school (3 years), and these were for extremely serious offences and as far as I am aware, these canings were administered in the same manner, skirts up across knickers.

 
 
Declan

schoolgirl slipperings and the like

March 10 2009, 9:09 AM 

I was interested in the earlier posting about tight or pleated skirts. Most girls at my school in the 70s wore short tight skirts which would not reveal their knickers when bending over. The pleated skirts were usually a little longer.

Very few girls were slippered and always by female teachers. Even fewer were slippered in public, but one of my great school memories was seeing three girls, aged about 13, slippered. Two of them were wearing tight skirts, the other a pleated skirt. I've no idea what the crime was as they were in the year below me and therefore I didn't know them. They each got two smacks and appeared to be in some distress , although there were no tears.

Caning of girls was almost unheard of , though one girl in my year was caned for looking in a teacher's handbag whilst she was out of the room. She got two on the hand from the headmistress. She didn't appear to be in any distress and was showing other girls the marks on her hand. However if you were caned you always were given about 10 minutes to recover before you went back to your class.

 
 
Paul b

Schoolgirl Slipperings and the Like.

March 19 2009, 12:22 AM 

PhilUK, my wife was also slippered in the same way your sister was, in private by her deputy Headmistress and on her knickers.
I don't think she would agree with you saying "girls got away with just the
slipper," as she found it a painful experience.
As for being slippered in private, I wonder if that was to save the girls
embarrassment or the deputy Headmistresses?

Declan, was you meant to see the three girls getting the slipper?
Or was it a case of being in a certain place at a certain time,
by accident?

 
 
Declan

schoolgirl slipperings and the like

March 19 2009, 8:12 AM 

The girls I saw getting the slipper happened during the lunch break and we saw it through a window. The school was very open plan and you could easily see into classrooms from outside. I suppose the slippering was meant to be in private.

It is a pity I cannot remember the girls names otherwise I might contact them!

I did contact a girl who was slippered at junior school, although I did know her quite well at grammar school. We exchanged a few emails but despite promptings, with me mentioning the name of the teacher ( female) who slippered her, she failed to mention the slippering and there is only so far you can go!

 
 
PhilUK

Girls slippered

March 19 2009, 7:46 PM 

I didn't meant to underestimate how painful an experience a slippering must have been for a girl, just to say that girls received corporal punishmnet far less than boys.

 
 
Paul b

Schoolgirl Slipperings and the Like

March 20 2009, 1:21 AM 

Declan, so at your school female class room teacher's slippered the girls?
At my wife's school only the deputy Headmistress slippered girls.
Boys were slippered in class, but girls were either slippered after school
in the deputy Headmistresses class room or in the entrance hall, during
school hours.

PhilUK, sorry for the confusion, boys did receive more CP than girls, in
most schools, if not all.
My wife had to endure a long lecture prior to her slippering, knowing her fate about halfway through the lecture.










































 
 
Declan

schoolgirl slipperings and the like

March 20 2009, 10:58 AM 

Paul b

The slippering I saw was by the girl's PE teacher. I think there were more slipperings in PE lessons but sadly we boys did not see them. The headmistress did cane a few girls but very rarely indeed and in private.At junior school girls were slippered in front of the class, but again very rarely, maybe we saw one a year.

I probably saw only about six or seven slipperings of girls. Boys however , I would reckon about 50 including the few I got !

 
 
Paul b

Schoolgirl Slipperinh and the Like.

March 21 2009, 1:55 AM 

Declan, PE teacher's and a slipper (or plimsoll) go together like Hansel
and Gretel. I probably saw around the same number of slipperings as you,
but only going to an all boys school they were on boys only.
The girls school over the road used the slipper, but I've no details
regarding that.
We had a female PE mistress who used the slipper, but apart from once,
only in private and all the slipperings I saw, only one was in a PE
lesson, strange as it seems.
All the male teacher's who I saw use the slipper made you touch your
toes, for the female teacher you bent over a desk, my wife had to bend
over a chair. Was that the case at your school?

 
 
Declan

schoolgirl slipperings and the like

March 21 2009, 11:05 AM 

Paul b

Oddly enough I don't think I ever heard the expression " touch your toes". It would just be bend over or simply bend. Almost all slipperings I saw or received were made standing and bent over. The only time I was bent over a desk was following some misbehaviour in the school library, and about five of us, fourth years I think, were bent over a desk in front of second years, and given two smacks from the girls PE teacher ( Her again!).

The fact that second years witnessed this punishment was unfortunate, as a girl who lived a few doors away was in the class and gleefully told my mother of the slippering at the first opportunity. Although the slipper was very painful there were no sympathies for those who got it, in fact it was regarded as great entertainment. This was in contrast to the cane when it was not the done thing to laugh at those on the receiving end.

One of the best slipperings I ever saw was on a boy who was rather arrogant, very good at sport, and who started going out with girls when he was eleven. I forget his crime but he was bent over in front of the class and given a very severe slippering by a male teacher. He was clearly in great pain but us boys glanced round at each other smirking at his distress. He later had, or has, a career in local radio, I even heard him on Radio 5 a few years back.

 
 
Another_Lurker

Re: schoolgirl slipperings and the like

March 21 2009, 11:12 PM 

Hi Declan, a most interesting post, thank you. Your girls PE teacher sounds a formidable lady. At my primary school the female teachers never used a slipper, that was very much the province of the few male teachers. At secondary school there were no female teachers, so comparison is not possible. sad.gif

You say of your former schoolmate:

He later had, or has, a career in local radio, I even heard him on Radio 5 a few years back.

What a dreadful fate. I hope you're sorry for him now even if you found his slippering amusing! happy.gif

 
 
Paul b

Schoolgirl Slipperings and the Like.

March 22 2009, 1:16 AM 

Hi Declan,
When the cane was used at my school it was considered a serious affair,
while a slippering was more of a light hearted punishment, with the class
having a laugh, unless it was you on the receiving end.
Every male teacher who used the slipper told you to "bend over touch your
toes" and they would insist you didn't bend your knees too.
I saw one boy receive the first whack of the slipper and jump up crying and
pleading to receive no more, then to everyone's surprise he was let off. I was disgusted with the boys behaviour, also with the teacher's
leniency, after that I couldn't tolerate being in the boy's company.

It sounds very much as though your female PE teacher used the slipper at
every opportunity? If she was like the PE mistress we had she always wore
plimsolls, so she had one to hand at all times.
The boy's slippered by her always said she hurt, but not as much as the male
teacher's.
My wife's Deputy Headmistress was a short dumpy woman but she said she could
really lay-it on leaving marks for days.

 
 
Declan

schoolgirl slipperings and the like

March 22 2009, 10:55 AM 

Yes, the girl's PE teacher was a formidable lady, but it would be an exaggeration to say she used every opportunity to use the slipper. She just used it a few times, mainly on boys. She too, often wore a tracksuit and had quite tight tracksuit bottoms and also wore gym shoes. Sadly though, she was not very easy on the eye. I think she was wearing civvies when she slippered me.

It may be of interest that the girl who told my mother about the slippering later became a bit of a wild child. I have no idea whether she was caned or slippered at school but she certainly got the back of a hairbrush from her mother( she would have been at least 15), as I overheard her mother telling my mother once. This girl used to smoke openly on the way to school, and hang around the shopping centre drinking, yes kids did that in the mid 70s for any younger ones on here who think it is a new phenomena.

 
 
Paul b

Schoolgirl Slippering and the Like.

March 23 2009, 12:18 AM 

Declan, our female PE teacher was quite attractive, but I didn't get
the slipper from her, I was slippered twice by an English and PE teacher.
He really enjoyed using the slipper and would always find an excuse to
slipper a boy.
When you saw his plimsolls tied together on his desk at the begining of
the lesson you knew someone was in for it.
Sometimes we had a teacher's v boy's football match and if he was ever beaten
he'd go in really hard, I always wished I could have played as I'd have given
him a Roy Keane type of tackle, I would have really enjoyed that, so would
everyone else as he wasn't liked.

 
 
Declan

schoolgirl slipperings and the like

March 23 2009, 10:05 AM 

Paul b

You mentioned a boy who couldn't take the pain of the slipper. I only remember one boy who cried when he got the slipper, he was a bit of a swot and had never had it before, so I think it came as a bit of a shock.

Certainly it was not the done thing to show any distress, though later on at grammar school some boys did leap up and down but only after the required strokes had been administered.

We did have some very attractive teachers but none of them used the slipper, although I recall our very hot English teacher telling a boy, sadly not me, that she ought to put him over the desk and give him a good spanking. Of course she never did.

 
 
Paul b

Schoolgirl Slippering and the Like.

March 24 2009, 12:16 AM 

Declan, the boy in question, who couldn't take the slipper was shocked
as to how much it hurt by his reaction and wouldn't go down again.
He cried and pleaded and was told to sit down.
When I was slippered, I was told I jumped, I remained in the same
position until I was told to go and sit down though.
I wouldn't have showed myself up in such a way, neither would my wife
as she was probably hit as hard as the boy, she stayed in the same
position until she was told to go.

 
 
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