(The title of course, is a quote from Lotta Nonsense on October 30th 2006)

We appear to have one participating female "member" (whose continued presence I suspect will soon be in question, if not already). Literally dozens of females who showed genuine interest in the forum no longer participate.

We are in the process of losing one of the site's most colourful and historically valuable male members. A huge number of males no longer participate.

The spectrum of tastes this forum attracts is broad. Due to the nature of fairly serious discussion here, extremes such as those motivated by fetish or sexual interest on one hand, or others such as the "hysterical witch-hunt" mindset tend to find other forums where there is a better fit. Those who remain could and should form a cohesive, diverse group, with a core content who actually experienced cp, while others who are genuinely interested learn and contribute.

Instead we have a small, wavering number of participants who are almost exclusively male, and constant conflict.

The causes is obvious to the most casual observer. One person is to blame whose sole motivation is self aggrandisement and disruption.

Bluntly, the forum management is out of touch with reality. Sorry folks (if there is indeed more than one of you) but you have repeatedly demonstrated that you couldn't manage an ambush. This is not your own personal club. Just like a shop is no longer the sole property of the owner, you have a genuine responsibility to the members of this forum to establish and maintain a climate in which the forum can function in a healthy manner.

Unfortunately it appears the current chaotic, unworkable conditions will continue unless we have a well-meaning rebellion.

I do not propose, as some have assumed, that Lotta is banned. Steve and the rest who do not view this with the forum's interest at heart can have their precious poster. But we do need to reduce the interference from this one egotistical, grandstanding person.

My suggestion is that Lotta is limited to a clearly specified number of posts each month, following which Larry1951 (or substitute) deletes the contents of all further posts until the start of the next month. If the posts made are acceptable (a loose translation is fine providing it is unbiased and well-meaning) then the limit would gradually increase. If we see any destructive "You appalling fraud!" stuff, or any variation thereof, the number decreases. Little time would be required to administer this (certainly a lot less than the overwhelming amount of time wasted now). The forum would be largely free to conduct its business. Eventually Lotta would become a member who fits in, or goes away. It would be entirely Lotta's choice.

Once past the inevitable outcry and rhetoric from Lotta, Steve et al, hopefully this, or something like it, can evolve into a responsible solution that gets this forum out of the dark ages.

Comments welcome.

Your suggestion that Lotta be limited to a clearly specified number of posts each month is an excellent one and therefore Lotta (and almost everybody else) is limited to three thousand posts each month.

The exceptions are:

Brian 4 (4 posts each month).

Ketta (2000 posts each month).

"This is not your own personal club. Just like a shop is no longer the sole property of the owner, you have a genuine responsibility to the members of this forum to establish and maintain a climate in which the forum can function in a healthy manner."

Jim is clearly an intelligent man and quite a literate one too, if his demonstrated ability to spell 'aggrandisement' is anything to go by.

He is however also an exceedingly gullible man if he cannot see that George is a complete, total, utter and absolute fraud. He was never a headmaster and his stories of decade after decade after decade of bare-bum canings are quite simply absurd.

Can anybody post a link to reliable evidence that such things were the norm in any state school in 20th Century Britain or to to reliable evidence that such things were the norm at any type of school in post-WW2 Britain.

Even if such schools existed, they must have been exceedingly rare yet George seems to have gone from one such school to another throughout his career - and to insult our intelligence with suggestions that such treatment of schoolboys was tolerated as late as 1980 in Britain is just plain laughable.

Most people on this forum have an interest in the CP of relatively mature girls and I don't find that offensive per se. However, I am disturbed by any lurid description of CP where the victim is a child (in the common sense meaning of the word) because I take an immensely dim view of people who derive sexual pleasure from any activity in which a child is forced to provide sexual stimulation for an adult.

George is nothing but a homosexual paedophile who has crammed his head with facts and figures related to the corporal punishment of schoolboys and has conned countless people into believing he was once a cane-wielding headmaster.

Please wake up, gentlemen.

"George is nothing but a homosexual paedophile who has crammed his head with facts and figures related to the corporal punishment of schoolboys and has conned countless people into believing he was once a cane-wielding headmaster."

Prove it.

Prove you want me to prove it.

There is a lot of questionable stuff posted to this forum. It all has to be read despite the distress it causes. It allows no free will. It is VERY dangerous stuff! Try averting the eyes or turning off the power to the computer - it can not be done.

The concept of 'Innocent until proved Guilty' does not just apply to a law court - it is a basic human right.
I therefore declare that George is Not Guilty of anything.

On the basis of Jethro's theory, Hitler is entirely innocent of war crimes as he was never convicted of any.

LOTTA & J

Both of you hopefully have no first-"hand" experience of paedophilia.

So let one who suffered it from age 4-6 tell you-anything that might just encourage it is not welcome on here. Once you feed these fantasies with any sort of stimulation, you take the risk of someone putting them into practice.

Remember these people can't help it-you know how sexually provocative the average little boy and girl are, don't you?


Steve M

Wake up. Lotta is quite right about everything they say. No I am not Lotta.

I find myself agreeing with them. I am sure they have been wrong but not often.

Please continue to apply occums razor and reductio ad absurdum.

I do ,however, question whether Lotto is a female. Too black and white and not prepared to compromise , which of course , is aposite here.

As this post is mainly about me, I will respond. If you look back over the years I did provide proof of some of the things I was saying. I even gave you the school name and stated it was in the Chesterfield Area. I did withold my last post in a private school as I live close by still. I did refuse to put my address on site.I refered to canings in the West Country. I gave details of the Archive Office where it could be found and the number of the school log book. I did this for the West Midlands as well and other areas. I even stated where my old school log book could be found.

I could not care less if members believe me or not, that is up to them to decide. If they do not like my posts it is up to them to decide. What I object to is the constant sniping at members,mainly by LN. This site hardly has anybody that posts now due to this, at least not about school corporal punishment. I cannot see why, as LN does not contribute positive feed to the sight her/his posts cannot be limited to say six a month.

George

George continues to lie, to dissemble and to deceive.

He has never once identified a school at which he was allegedly headmaster.

He has, however. cunningly provided us with several snippets of utterly useless non-information along the lines of 'The school was called St Marks and was within a 30-mile radius of Chesterfield'. I ask you - how many schools are/were called St Marks? Over the years, there must have been hundreds with perhaps dozens of them within 30 miles of Chesterfield.

When the truthfulness of a CP-related story is in doubt and the contributor is asked to identify a school, a genuine contributor will either provide the questioner with positive and unambiguous identification or he will refuse absolutely to provide any identification.

A refusal to identify a school always suggests that the story is a fantasy but to offer clues re the school's identity is the absolute hallmark of the fraud and fantasist.

And George is most certainly a fraud and a fantasist

Once again you are wrong. The school was St Peters not St Marks. If you had done your homework you would have found their was less than four such schools in the area to which I refer, and you could have found out which one. Of course you make no mention of the records that I told you that could be found.

I will not respond to any more rubbish from you.


George

Lotta sais:
"On the basis of Jethro's theory, Hitler is entirely innocent of war crimes as he was never convicted of any."

I don't think many people think Hitler was innocent of war crimes because there's a lot of evidence that would have been presented at his trial if he'd lived. I'm pretty certain that he would have been found guilty and executed with his mates.
My question to you Lotta is where is the equivalent evidence against George to justify calling him a homosexual and paedophile? I've only read his recent posts but I can't see where he indicates that he got any sexual pleasure when he caned those boys or even enjoyed doing so.
Evidence please Lotta or you can't convict George.

George was convicted years ago on this forum. He wrote incessantly about boys underwear (pants) and their bare bottoms. It got so bad that somebody started "The Pants Club" as a parody of his posts about boys underwear.

Ah so this is why JFJ does not want Lotta Nonsense booted! You are having fun playing cat and mouse. This is sport! Dont expect much of a reaction though. Lotta Nonsense has precious little of what the military calls "situation awareness". The poor fellow seems confined to a narrow focus on the monotonous rubbish he posts and is only dimly aware of everyone else. Danny said it well: "I have noticed in life that the less intelligent a person is the more he believes he is the only one who has a Degree in 'The Bloody Obvious'."

George, Jethro and Newer Member: the 21st Century equivalent of Larry, Curly and Mo.

2:32AM?

Another NONSENSE reply by Lotta as expected of course. Meaningful debate is too much to expect but it took you half the night to think of that answer?
Try to get your beauty sleep in future Lotta.