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1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

January 15 2007 at 11:05 PM
Saro 

 
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,855610,00.html


It's odd that I came across this link looking things up about Liz Taylor. "Secret Ceremony" was on the telly -- and that's probably what I typed into the search field.

 
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Simon

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

January 16 2007, 6:33 AM 

This really is revolting. I would have no interest in any woman who indulged in such behaviour. It is, however, probably no worse than the sort of stuff that goes on in the streets of Portsmouth on Saturday nights in 2007.

 
 

Bob T

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

January 16 2007, 3:20 PM 

Good find Saro. I'll bet they would like a link to that over at Corpun.

 
 

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

January 16 2007, 6:32 PM 

Can you leave a health warning more prominently next time?

You nearly put Steve off his corned beef sarnie!

I could tell you a few interesting initiation ceremony stories from my French cousin Sergio, involving Catholic convent girls.

Unfortunately, Sergio's not had very much in the way of English lessons, as the baccalauriat caters very little for carrots.


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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

April 23 2010, 3:16 AM 

Girls just wanna have fun video you tube. I can't get away from Catholic schools and Nuns. ;( Sorority Hell week (previous post) circa 1947!!! Sorority Hell week 2007!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h6pXPHaWM0

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

August 31 2010, 3:16 AM 

Wonder Woman and Sorority Paddling.

It is a bit dated but it shows how deeply entrenched the traditions of initiations are embedded into the very fabric of college life through the years. The Hitler cure is priceless.

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American Way

Psychology Sorority Hazing Rituals

August 31 2010, 4:12 AM 

Sadomasochism and sorority by creator of Wonder Woman and his obsession with lie detectors and sorority hazing rituals are found her.

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Lie Detectors

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American Way

1910 St Louis Sorority Hazing Rituals

August 31 2010, 10:51 PM 

Bizarre: Twenty naughty high school girls.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 8 2010, 9:50 PM 

This 1957 artwork by Bill Ward Bill Ward was selling for two grand on ebay. This is a disciplinary paddling and not an initiation judging from its inscription and posture. Girls at 17 were not exempt from spanking at home in 1957 so it would stand to reason that house rules applied in sorority houses as well.

Sorority Disciplinary Spanking


 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

October 12 2010, 1:22 AM 

Although sororities have employed corporal punishment as a in the form of a big sister to the little sister camaraderie it wasn't always used in this manner. One must remember many of these girls as in the third picture were punished by breach of rules by house moms considerable older and not students of the college. The girl facing the door seems to be the culprit appropriately pictured in an adult content site that requires no check in and like Pandoras Box is a veritable mine of vintage use of corporal punishment in schools that date back over a century or so ago. There was no lesbian overtone but simply a fact that college age girls were spanked in the nineteen fifties as shown in picture 3. Picture 2 has been shown and is believed not be apart to a hell week initiation but big sisters taking little sisters to task for breaking rules. The first picture hearkens back to one hundred years ago and has a girl kneeling. In olden days a glimpse of stocking was considered shocking (Cole Porter). Now if you have a bit of stockings it's hardly shocking. The standards of modesty have changed exponentially. I'm sure the girls would be loathed to put a face to the picture. I am passively linking and I'm giving fair warning that three of these pictures are new and the last shows partial dorsal nudity. Spank Statement, Pandoras Box and Voice in the Corner are mainstream blogs of adult content that don't require a check in. Hotlinking is in the eye of the beholder as is pornography but I guess the beholder is Larry 1951.

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Another_Lurker

Canes in a US Sorority?

October 12 2010, 8:39 PM 

As the source blog itself says, the significant feature of the first of American Way's sorority links above, a turn of the 20th century picture, is that the girls apparently inducting a new sorority member are holding canes not paddles. Not surprisingly the inductee doesn't look too happy about it! Possibly an Eastern college where the British influence was still significant?

 
 
American Way

Girls Just Want To Have Fun

May 16 2011, 2:13 AM 

In addition to hazing sororities used paddling as a way to punish violators of rules. These girls got a little bit carried away with a slipper spanking more than 76 years ago. Interesting, the parents were not held accountable in paying the hefty fine. That's a lot of money in the youngsters future earnings. Juries are often the same when awarding the victim. Perhaps because of scrutiny sorority spankings have become photo opportunities. The size of the paddles are such to allow names of the students to be put on them. They're definitely not made for spanking but for family albums for years to come. They are meant for walls not bottoms.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

May 17 2011, 5:10 PM 

Hollywood Spinsters sorority of their own with fraternity like oaken paddle (vintage 1941). Thespians at play. wink.gif

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

June 29 2011, 5:54 PM 

I love the beauty contest with the paper bag over their heads. Great idea for avoiding unpleasant distractions when a woman has an appearance deficit. wink.gif Some girls may find this worse than being paddled.

[South Carolina] - Introduced by the Sigma Chi fraternity in 1947, Derby Day featured sorority sisters competing in the Miss Venus pageant, wearing high heels, short-shorts, tight blouses, and paper bags over their heads.

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You get the feeling that sorority houses were where girls were disciplined in a manner similar to their homes at least to they became upperclassmen and were used for more than just hazing during Hell Week. Why have an instrument of correction around through the whole year in the olden days?
Seventeen year olds being spanked were not as unheard of then asthey are now unless they live in the few districts in the 19 states that still permit corporal punishment. In the interest of full disclosure when one considers 300,000,000 Americans and what I believe will be under 200,000 public school paddling incidences the paddle might be swinging less in the short run before the pendulum swings IMHOit will need quite a pendulum swings significantlyin the other direction. The OCR doesn't record the age of the students in secondary school.
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Renee1984

Sorority "Spanking"

June 29 2011, 8:31 PM 

Hello y'all:

As a sorority alumnus, I think I am qualified to comment on what TODAY'S sororities are REALLY like.

First, the legend of "sorority spankings" in past eras is WAY overblown. That type of hazing may have happened 50 years ago but the fraternities were much more likely to do so. Today's sorority women are high achievers and are involved in many campus organizations. This "porno image" of sorority hazing is FAR from reality.

Finally, the real sorority ceremonies are very long and elaborate (Like mine) and many passages are not even written but are passed down from older members to new.

None of that quite matches the "porn image" of course!

BTW, I got in MAJOR trouble for a playful paddle swat given to a pledge when I was Pledge Educator!

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

June 29 2011, 9:09 PM 

Renee: Paddling was overblown for sororities but not fraternities. They were the staple of mainstream films mostly as gratuitous scenes though mainly porno now.

Animal House marked the movie debut of Kevin Bacon who went on to become a star started by being spanked in his skivvies with an oversized paddle.

Kevin Bacon, in his film debut, played a freshman Chip Diller, who is accepted as a pledge into Omega House, the respected fraternity on campus, though also a leader in sadism. On initiation night he was paddled on his behind by the fascistic ROTC captain Doug Neidermeyer. After each blow is struck, Bacon's character shouts out: "Thank you sir, may I have another."  

There is a possible truth to this account of a behind the scene account as the italics paraphrased from youtube mentions. After the movie he played on the Guiding Light before his career took off.

Kevin Bacon was interviewed on a TV special about the making of this movie. He said that for the paddling scene, John Landis told him not to worry, it would be 3 or 4 whacks and they wouldn't be very hard. So he didnt wear any extra paddling or extra pair of underpants. He said once it started they had to do retake after retake and it mounted up to 30 or 40 smacks, at least. He said his butt was very red and sore!

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Bob T

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

June 30 2011, 12:16 AM 

I beg to differ on modern day sorority paddlings. There are numerous videos posted on youtube. I realize not all of them still paddle as part of the initiation but obviously some do. I don't have time to search for them but they are easy to find.

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

June 30 2011, 12:11 PM 

Bob T no sense searching for videos. Google: Sorority Paddling and you will find yourself on a porno site with candids that are far from porno. The sanctions against them by the authorities may make them as underground as drinking but not as pervasive but maybe more so while drinking. happy.gif True, the formality of paddling in an initiation may have found their way to the dustbins but the ones that go on in parties are almost as pervasive as birthday spankings.


 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

October 17 2011, 3:30 AM 

High Jinks with the 14 year old Judy Garland with Sigma Chi fraternity. Be sure to look for Tarzan on page 70. happy.gif

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American Way

What a difference 70 years make.

November 29 2011, 9:30 PM 

University of Pittsburgh Fraternity Hazing 1940.

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Stupid is as Stupid Dies. Sorority Hazing 2009.

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Starts at 6:26.

Way to Die #620: Mudder Sucked

A sorority girl hazes three pledges then fights with one of the pledges in the mud pit only for the two other pledges to pull out the pledge before the she seriously hurts her. She stands in the center of the pit but she is then consumed by a sinkhole on which the mud pit was built.

 
 
American Way

Similar to Sororities.

February 2 2012, 10:43 PM 

Washburn College Chapel Topeka Kansa. It seems to be the locus of hijinks of the boys and girls of Washburn University. Note the hymnal board and hymnals. The must do some praying there. wink.gif

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The cane rush tradition is kept in some schools to this day. The paddle seems to have overtaken that in states. Probably "Bachelor Girls". 1903.

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Topeka, Kansas, December, 1893 Wicked boys of the Wasburn, Kan., College play tricks on the pretty female students.

The young ladies at Washburn College, in Topeka, Kan., have a class in gymnastics and are required to dress in Turkish costume, using a long skirt to conceal their costumes while going to and from the gymnasium.

National Police Gazette 1893

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

February 29 2012, 11:17 PM 

1916. Satiable Curiosity. Rudyard Kipling. The innocence of college girls, all those little flowers from the days of yore. Worth a gander to get a flavor of the first girls to attend college in the USA. Where have they gone? Off to graveyards everywhere. Class History, page 5. Parody of Rudyard Kipling's Elephant's Child.

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1968 Phi Lamb Girl Paddle.

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Paddle Phi Lamb Girls. In 1968 they were employed. Measures approx 34-1/2" long, 5-1/2" wide, 3/4" thick.


 
 

Bob T

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

March 1 2012, 12:41 PM 

What would a Fraternity be doing with a "girls paddle"?

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

April 7 2012, 4:54 AM 

Dear Abby recently published this exchange in real time as in 2012. The fact that it is forbidden doesn't mean it still doesn't go on especially not as a hazing (verboten) but as disciplinary. The neophytes have to learn house rules. The images to follow appear from the fifties. It was at a time where guys would not be present when girls would be paddled. The beer-fests coed partying were years away and are not technically girl-bonding (no pun intended) moments. These vintage paddling scenes may be of the Betty Page posed kind but I would like to think of them as candids. Obviously, sites of interests would be vendors of these images so that favors the former. The outdoor ones would seem to be the most likely to be the candid ones. It seemed technically less sophisticated. The remarkable thing is that the tradition of use and abuse hearkens back all the way to 1929 (last two links). How can girls be so mean to each other?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_Abby

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American Way

I Left My Heart in San Francisco

April 12 2012, 12:21 AM 

Beauty in Trousers. 1906

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A century later San Francisco is still ahead of the curve. happy.gif Pain or Pleasure?

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Sorority Girls Issued Warning.

April 14 2012, 4:49 AM 

Their cherries must be held sacred or they will secure a bulldog. wink.gif

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This retro site gives the viewer a sense of how life on American campuses has changed through the years.

Vintage Rules.

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American Way times.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

May 27 2012, 8:34 PM 

Follow up of sorority hazing.

Sororities 1861.

Priceless paddles stolen from college sorority!

BOSTON, Mass. A valuable collection of wooden paddles used to initiate new sorority members at area colleges has been stolen from a museum here. The paddles, which date as far back as1861, have an estimated value of $850,000, authorities say.

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The iconic sorority paddling film. "Slimebowl".

Jason Bene: I cant talk about this film without bringing up the Spanking scene. That was the flogging heard around the geekdom world. Was that the ultimate Brinke moment among your fanbase?
Brinke Stevens: I must say that the spanking scene did get a lot of attention from fans and the fact is we were never really coming into contact with the paddle, we just sat and pretend. We made it look convincing, so that was kind of fun. You dont see spanking scenes in a lot of movies.

The scream queens. Do be honest with you, you don't.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

August 24 2012, 9:20 AM 

Pledges at Initiation Hazing:

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Too Cute For Words 1940's:

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

August 24 2012, 11:52 AM 

Third Link. May work. Not the paddles on the ground. Not the lack of insignia. Note the length and thinness.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

August 24 2012, 4:53 PM 

We think of initiation as a college phenomenon not as a graduate medical school one.

1931.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

August 26 2012, 6:29 PM 

Coed Paddling in Philippines. APO Beta Nu. September 2, 1972 prior to the banning of hazing.

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Roger Mijares pulling a fine, almost invisible, thread from a volunteer's buttocks to measure thread's elasticity for recoil as Judith Cabatit witnesses the exercise. Watching intently in the back is Bong Arpa in sailor's hat. Helen Asia assisted by Rose Ungab on the left conducting the same exercise as Roger.

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A student of pure science determining as a group experiment and curiosity to determine the buttock's ability of a volunteer to absorb kinetic energy from a sudden impact delivered by a flat wood under a male's massive muscular control.

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A student of pure science determining as a group experiment and curiosity to determine the buttock's ability of a volunteer to absorb kinetic energy from a sudden impact delivered by a flat wood under a female's muscular flexing.

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Roger Buenvenida: We have to check those putting on cushions inside pledgees buttocks. Yoyong Garcia: I suspect Bernie and Jojo are wearing grandma-size tampon pads. Roger Mijares: No way. I did swipe everybody's buttocks for pads and I like doing it henceforth as my primary duty, except for guys which I will defer to Bob Yap. Bong Arpa: Hey, wait a minute, butt swiping is my specialty! Helen Asia: And hey, butt swiping is my major in college! Cabatit: But hey, that will be my graduate work exercise! Willie Manlangit: Oops! Brown-nosing butts is my congenital ambition. Claro: Wait and stay still. I got to capture this moment: a mob of runaway brains!

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The Cry Babies batch: They did shed tears of pain and joy and finally of triumph. The quintessential display of agony and ecstasy...a time for crying, a time for laughter, and a time for triumphant finish.
They suffered, they cried, they struggled and made it!! APO forever!!

The last two girls front row right were wearing grandmas for protecting their tender bottoms.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 3 2012, 6:50 PM 

Ronald Reagan was not the only Presient that got a taste of the paddle but the 33rd President of the USA. Unlike Reagan's school Grinnell College has never had a fraternity or sorority. It is called a dormitory paddle it may have been used as an instrument of correction.

Truman assumed the position with smile himself with a cane while exposing the target to senior Ken Richards (president of the dorm).

Truman Gets the College Business.

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Truman and Bacall. I have never found her attractive. She turns 88 this month and sin's wage has more than taken its toll.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 4 2012, 12:51 AM 

This is not an initiation but as the article mentions a public spanking.

Follow up of vintage sorority paddling.

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American Way

Ruth Gleave Miss Demeanors.

September 4 2012, 2:44 AM 

Ruth Gleave Miss Demeanors. I don't see anyone looking like Ruth Gleave in that line in previous posting. She is Hollywood beautiful in that fetching gym outfit. Married and sealed are Mormon terms.

She aged as gracefully as any movie star. May she rest in peace.

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Hold those hems.

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American Way

1927 For the Sake of Sorority Discipline

September 8 2012, 9:19 PM 

Can you imagine the first story headline?

For the Sake of Sorority Discipline. Paddle Wielders and Candle Blowers.

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KK

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 8 2012, 10:29 PM 

For the convienience of readers:


The Milwaukee Sentinel - Sunday Nov 12, 1927.

Paddles help in 'initiation'

"Now kiddies, listen to the story of the big cinnamon bear, and the story of the little girls who didn't obey their big sorority sisters."

It wasn't a radio station broadcasting, but the Pi Epsilon Pi sorority girls putting the new pledges through a mock initiation.

Clad in pajamas, with stockings twined around their necks and red paper hula skirts, the nine young pledges were put through ridiculous stunts to prove their sportsmanship.

Paddles flailed as the older members asserted their perogative, and noses bumped along the floor on the scent of the onion. But revenge is sweet and the comforting thought of the pledges is that there will be new pledges next year for them to initiate.

Epsilon chapter of Milwaukee is one of the nine chapters of Pi Epsilon Pi national sorority. The chapter here is composed of twenty-nine girls. Monday night the girls held their initiation and today there will be a formal initiation at the Shorecrest hotel. There won't be tiny stockings tied around the necks tonight and the pajamas will be safely at home.

The sorority is purely social, but the girls do some charity work. At present, they are devising ways and means of raising funds for Christmas.



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(And two other photos.)

What a strange custom. Only in America?

 
 

Bob T

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 8 2012, 11:24 PM 

They don't look very happy. I wonder if it has something to do with the paddle mentioned in the article.

 
 
American Way

Shocking Treatment. Getting Her Just Desserts

September 12 2012, 6:27 PM 

1938 Ready for the Rites. Getting Her Just Desserts.

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2007 RIP

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Good Advice:

Dont try things that you are not capable of doing. Play the golf course, not the other person.


 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 20 2012, 7:53 PM 

The naughty girls of the University of Utah

1922 Chi Omega

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Quality image of Iconic Life Magazine University of Utah paddling.

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Hazing Hi Jinks.

Banish frats and sororities?

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

October 6 2012, 12:16 AM 

Soccer Hazing 2006 controversy. Team bonding hazing is as often written about as much as sororities. Some consider it as a form of bullying while others have a more benign point of view. Evanston IL is the home of Northwestern that has been a subject of several of my postings.

Northwestern University Women's Soccer Team May 17, 2006

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Thinking about women, sports, and hazing.

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A college girl see no harm in paddling.

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Disturbing Images.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

October 13 2012, 2:39 AM 

Vanderbilt girls. 2012 page 2

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Vanderbilt boys. 1937 page 39.

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Vanderbilt Cheerleaders A_L era. wink.gif

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Vanderbilt Cheerleaders TWP era.

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Glory Days

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American Way

1939 Hell Week Fraternity Style

October 29 2012, 9:35 PM 

Medieval torture in our model college

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prof.n

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

October 29 2012, 10:12 PM 


And then you wonder why the teachers in the 50's thought you could take a dozen licks or so in High School ? Three swats TWP style wouldn't prepare you for that !!!!!

The university I visit has banned all hazing on pain of expulsion , plus de-recognition of the Fraternity or Sonority.

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

December 10 2012, 7:43 PM 

From time to time Sorority paddling pictures are put on line from fetish sites. Again, to get a better idea of that time period a perusal of Howard Payne yearbook circa 1944 may be in order.

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Page 105 gives you an example of one pertaing to this thread in the upper right hand corner. I don't find this genre of pictures worth sharing and won't in the future. Boooring.

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As I have mentioned before I love graphical arts and if someone can tell me the source of these pictures I would be very interested. They almost seem like Rockwell quality. If it is done by one of their students it would be worth a pretty penny.

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This one in 1945 is in much lesser quality (typical of yearbooks) but pertains to initiations.

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American Way

My high school yearbook 1968

December 10 2012, 8:53 PM 

Being an editor of a yearbook (not common in the UK as I understand) in pre-cyber days meant stencils and margins and was no mean accomplishment that required a lot of effort and quickly gained expertise.

I staged a spanking (pervy me) between two girls (student council president and the girl with the most detentions) on what they thought was the spur of the moment when I knew that a professional yearbook photographer would be visiting the school. They started as token swats but she got carried away. She went to college to study criminal justice and probably did not know then and maybe even not now of my predilections. Student councilors were rat finks that monitored study periods and had authority to give detentions. I wish the spanking was the other way around.

Megalomaniac that I was and still am but to a lesser extent if I must say so myself, I was elected to be editor of both the yearbook and the newspaper but wisely chose the yearbook for I knew newspapers were discarded. My class has not gone online. If it did I should ask for royalties for what they charge.

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

February 13 2013, 11:53 PM 

Sorority spanking 1935. Spanking makes them good little girls. What is hatboxing and spiking?

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Vintage paddling about that era I would imagine.

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American Way

Hoist by her own petard

March 23 2013, 6:24 PM 

Second Column 15-year-old girl inventor woe

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American Way

Sorority Girl 1957

May 6 2013, 11:49 PM 

Sorority Girl 1957. Not a fetish film by any means but a melodramatic psychodrama.

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Heartbreaking end to the film for villainess (Sabra) played by Susan Cabot.

Heartbreaking end in real life RIP 1986 for Susan.

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Another_Lurker

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

May 7 2013, 4:11 AM 

Hi American Way,

You are my greatly esteemed fellow contributor, but really! Haven't I told you before, if you're going to link 'em, link 'em big! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

This one is 2454 x 1958 pixels, not a postage stamp size 289 x 229 pixels! Look at that paddle and shudder! A darn good thing that one never got into the hands of you know who! happy.gif

But wait! Could this in fact be the very paddle that many years later, in a humble 'clipboard' capacity, was used by Renee to deliver her first ever paddle swat? We may never know! happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

May 7 2013, 12:43 PM 

A_L Some times I can get a larger picture but if I see the first word after "http" of course "image" I find it doesn't come up for others but does for me on preview. Is it because I am linking from a primary. Often I give the primary source and let the reader choose to enlargen it. Better to teach a man how to fish than give him one so you're on. How do you get the larger image? We've gone over this somewhat but let's do it again.

Has anyone watched a significant portion of Sorority Girl care the comment on it? Would you recommend it and if so to whom?


 
 

Another_lurker

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

May 8 2013, 3:54 AM 

Hi American Way,

Sorry for the delay. I will give you the run-down on the picture thing as you request above. Hopefully tomorrow night in Computing Corner.

 
 
American Way

Paddle 1941 Construction

July 1 2013, 5:04 AM 

BEFORE THE "HAZING PADDLES" GET TWO COATS OF VARNISH THEY ARE INSPECTED BY BETTY TIRPAK (ABOVE) FOR FLAWS SUCH AS KNOTS OR ROUGH EDGES.

http://www.historicimages.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RRT15199

HAZING PADDLES" ARE THREE AT A TIME ON A BAND SAW FROM PIECES OF ROCK ELM WOOD, WHICH COMES FROM WISCONSIN.

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FRED BALDWIN (ABOVE) SPRATS A COAT OF VARNISH ON THE PADDLES THEN ALLOWS THEM TO DRY A FEW HOURS BEFORE A SECOND COAT IS PUT ON.

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AFTER THE "HAZING PADDLES" HAVE BEEN ROUGHLY OUT ON BAND SAW, THEY ARE PUT INTO A FROM AND RUN THROUGH A "SHAPING MACHINE" TWO AT A TIME.

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THREE FRACTIOUS FRESHMEN LINE UP FOR A PADDLING AS PART OF THE INITIATION BEFORE ADMISSION INTO THE SIGMA NU SIGMA SORORITY AT ERIE CENTER UNIVERSITY, ERIE, PA.

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FYI Rock Elm.

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Paddling in use now. The Hazing 2003 Movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0340150/

It's an interesting shaped paddle and inscription and not as fearsome as some. Each girls take 20 medium to hard swats.

http://vimeo.com/68937317#

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 21 2013, 8:48 PM 

Wouldn't be nice if blacks and whites could enjoy sorority life without hazing with a return to an innocence that has seem to have never been lost here?

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But back to the real world.

Governor Wallace keeping University of Alabama all white. First you get through the door.

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http://youtu.be/ChI27VRezQc

Since 2003, no black woman has been accepted into any of the 17 Panhellenic sororities.

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Auburn University Sorority.

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https://fp.auburn.edu/greek/pichi.htm

Percent of participation in sorority and ethnic and racial demographics of University Alabama and Auburn.

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 21 2013, 9:15 PM 

Don't worry about the image beneath Auburn for it's the same picture in the link below of all the white girls.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 21 2013, 11:43 PM 

Hello American Way,

I find sororities etc. rather confusing, if a little funny, so I may be wrong about this, but I think Michelle of TWP raised the issue you cover above in an earlier post here in the current TWP thread.

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 22 2013, 2:04 AM 

A_L I was well aware that Renee, et. al. did reference it in their thread but I brought some information to the table. I less frequently post in the TWP thread for reasons I have already articulated. Racial and percentage of participation at UA & Auburn as well as Auburn's pretty white faces put some light on the situation. Now that light has been shone upon it maybe the cockroaches will scamper for all to see. I do laud the new woman president of the University of Alabama.

I notice a trend among the not too uncommon Demons of Dixie to look away and look away while bragging about how bold and brave their families were in fighting prejudice but to me it's reminiscent of every Frenchmen claiming themselves to be members of the French Resistance if they served up a warm cup of vichyssoises soup. Revenge is best served cold........


 
 

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 22 2013, 7:01 PM 

Its probably true that Lubbock TX has more churches than jeans(happy.gif), well Natalie Maines said it so it MUST be true, : you can't get much nearer to god than in his own home state ....... am I right , or are you wrong? happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

The issue of discrimination is far more complicated though than the social predilections of a group of Dixie chicks. Now take Mississippi Valley State University for example, 3.6% white students ,0.8% hispanics, the rest??????Well of course its a 'Historically Black College'. My University has a very white face, less so than it used to be , n but not a 'refection of the local population nonetheless. they are selective ......we accept 34.3% of applicants. Now our applicant pool is limited given it s private endowment, although there are lots of scholarship provisions etc, , but I wouldn't claim a its a mirror image of the society. Neither is Valley.You see valley admits only 16.1% of applicants, and superficially is far more selective than we are, and certainly more so than Ole' Miss

I think if memory serves there are another four MS universities and colleges that are almost exclusively Black in enrollment. Now unless you take the rather strange ultras left formulation that it is impossible to be black and racist, you have to take on board the uncomfortable fact that back in the 50, 60's etc. and much earlier, there were elements and leaders of the black community who advocated , or in the language of today 'sold out' to separate development. These institutions are the remaining temples to that concept. Here is a list of exclusively African American sororities.

Alpha Kappa Alpha 1908
Delta Sigma Theta 1913
Zeta Phi Beta 1920
Sigma Gamma Rho 1922
Phi Delta Kappa,1923
Iota Phi Lambda 1929
Eta Phi Beta 1942
Gamma Phi Delta 1943
Zeta Delta Phi 1962


I can do little better than quote Du Bois :

It is a peculiar sensation, this double-consciousness, this sense of always looking at ones self through the eyes of others, of measuring ones soul by the tape of a world that looks on in amused contempt and pity. One ever feels his two-ness,an American, a Negro; two souls, two thoughts, two unreconciled strivings; two warring ideals in one dark body, whose dogged strength alone keeps it from being torn asunder.

The history of the American Negro is the history of this strife this longing to attain self-conscious manhood, to merge his double self into a better and truer self. In this merging he wishes neither of the older selves to be lost. He does not wish to Africanize America, for America has too much to teach the world and Africa. He wouldn't bleach his Negro blood in a flood of white Americanism, for he knows that Negro blood has a message for the world. He simply wishes to make it possible for a man to be both a Negro and an American without being cursed and spit upon by his fellows, without having the doors of opportunity closed roughly in his face
Du Bois, W. E. B. The Souls of Black Folk. New York, Avenue l, NJ: Gramercy Books; 1994

However, as a result of the experiences of slavery and southern acculturation, early African Americans' ideas of both of their identities were greatly distorted. The American plantation system created slave populations that mixed Africans from different ethnic groups and discouraged African cultural practices in attempts to prevent slave revolts. As slaves, Africans were forbidden to speak their original languages, stripped of their original African names, converted to Christianity, discouraged from dancing, and not allowed to use drums. Such practices ensured the distortion of the African cultural legacy and that the same legacy would be severely impaired, if not lost completely, among later generations of African Americans. It also prohibited them from gaining the same cultural experience in America that white people received, creating a situation exclusively unique to African Americans.African americans were expected to graft themselves into the culture of the white overseers,( an example of this can s be seen in the (mythological? ) parody by Alex Haley of 'Chicken George', a comic character with the weight of cultural separatism on his shoulders, lapped up by millions throughout the world.

The existence of a black university educational network is frequently today ignored. I suspect very few readers of this forum outside the Southern states will be aware. This was not simply an outworking of segregation but was, for different reasons and at different times encouraged by the leadership of the black emancipation movements, sdo as to move their 'fate' outside of the boundaries set by the white ruling elite. The outcome of the countervailing pressures of segregation, the civil war and post war 'jim Crow' on one side and the cultural poverty, economic exclusion and political duplicity on the other , left blacks in the most difficult situation , faced with choices they never would have made , given different situations. That's where these universities came from , as well as from mistaken leaders like Booker T Washington, who never saw beyond the African American as a work horse of the american economy.

But since the 60's these outposts of Afro american education have remained largely frozen in and end of wallace ideology, and therefore serve as much as a break on the aspirations of the dispossessed, just as much if not more than the policies of rush week in at least a racially mixed university backcloth

 
 
American Way

Re: 1910 St Louis Sorority Hazing Rituals

November 3 2013, 1:21 AM 

In Korea Sorority hazing seems alive and well as recent as in 2008 or perhaps just anecdotally. You would be hard pressed to find an image in the States where chapters can be revoked by even lighthearted paddling.

Fall class 2k8!!

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Here is a case of a celebratory paddling at graduation.

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Another_Lurker

Those Kayak paddles

November 3 2013, 5:31 AM 

Hello American Way,

I don't know about the young ladies, 'cos I can't trace that picture accurately, but the picture that 'Korea Beat' entitles 'Kids celebrate graduation with corporal punishment' isn't quite what it seems.

This is the Korea Maritime University at Yeongdo-gu in Busan and the occasion is a Junior to Senior Graduation in 2011. Here are the details. There's a sound reason for the kayaks and paddles, it's a maritime institution, the Naval type uniform gives it away. The ceremony apparently signifies the sharing of information. There's no suggestion that Korean students have adopted paddling graduation ceremonies en masse. happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

November 3 2013, 5:35 AM 

I could have told you that (Maritime) but I was just testing you. You would be hard pressed to find the Korean Sorority image and it is not from a fetish site.

 
 
American Way

Girls Will Be Girls.

February 27 2014, 12:39 AM 

For many of these young ladies this was their first taste of freedom from home. Sorority Stanford 1908. The Seven Cardinal Sins. In my days the fight was over parietals or the policy of having girls over to the dorm. It was an all boy Catholic college. In the midst of all the Vietnam War Protests the students were carrying placards for the right to have a girl over. The truth is often stranger than fantasy.

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American Way

Killer Party 1986

March 11 2014, 1:44 AM 

Stars often cut their teeth on lesser known pictures that are held in little regard among peers in their profession. Such is the case of Joanna Johnson in 1986. College yearbooks show pledges taking paddlings, mock or otherwise, thirty or so years ago. Today they face serious sanctions for violations.

Political correctness is found in another taboo such as ads for tobacco banned so long that half the population has never seen one in the USA. We export and exploit the stuff in the third world while we defoliate plants in other countries. Now it's e-cigarrettes with nicotine without the bad for you tar.

Killer Party 1986

Solemnity of an initiation captured. N.B. The distribution of the paddles.

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Newspaper Review.

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Background Information on paddled girl, Joanna Johnson. The girl who was paddled as often is the case is on the rise. She is a well respected actress with a long career.

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Twenty eight years later in Bold and Beautiful 2014.

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American Way's posting partially elaborated

March 11 2014, 7:00 AM 


[linked image]

Three friends, Vivia, Jennifer, and Phoebe, decide to pledge a sorority. The night of the initiation, Vivia plays an elaborate prank on the sorority sisters as the three girls are being initiated through a hazing ritual.


 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

March 11 2014, 8:26 AM 

Joanna Johnson on the wrong end of the paddle. wink.gif

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Bold and Beautiful with Joanna Johnson on the right side of civil rights. happy.gif

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Professional sports on the rights side of civil rights. happy.gif

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On the wrong side of civil rights. Ole Miss. February 21, 2014. sad.gif

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Sororities on the right side of civil rights. happy.gif

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On the wrong side of history again. sad.gif

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American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 6 2014, 6:49 PM 

College Humor (1933)

Synopsis of another pre-code film. The initiation scene is strictly promotional.

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Mary Korman Being Initiated by Jack Oakie

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Mary with the Girls from "College Humor"

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Mary is featured in this clip as a bridge between a child and a teenage actress.

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Another_Lurker

Those Mary Korman Pictures

September 6 2014, 8:39 PM 

Hello American Way,

Your middle two links in the above post give a 404 error (URL does not exist) because unfortunately you have missed a chunk out of the URLs when copy/pasting.

Here are the pictures I assume that you intended to link:

Mary Korman Being Initiated by Jack Oakie

Mary with the Girls from "College Humor"

Just part of the A_L service. No fee will be charged. happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 6 2014, 10:46 PM 

A_L Thanks for trying to be helpful. No apology needed. wink.gif My links were copied and pasted correctly.

http://marykornman.com/

http://marykornman.atspace.com/mary/

 
 

Another_Lurker

Those Links!

September 7 2014, 2:29 AM 

Hello American Way,

You said 'no apology needed' but nonetheless I shall apologise. Your 2nd and 3rd links in your September 6 2014, 6:49 PM contribution were indeed copied/pasted correctly, as were my two links to identical pictures in a different page on the same web hosting site in my September 6 2014, 8:39 PM contribution.

However, except in the most exceptional and unlikely circumstances I don't think our readers will be able to access any of them direct from the thread unless they've opened one of your two links in your September 6 2014, 10:46 PM contribution, and even then they won't be able to use the direct links above in all circumstances.

However, if they open a new tab or a new window and copy/paste any of the first four links into its address box the link will work. Complicated stuff? Well more annoying really.

What is happening is that in the course of finding our respective links you and I have both picked up a cookie which enables us to access the links from another site, such as Network54. Effectively we've paid our dues by visiting a page the picture hosting site wants us to visit, so they don't mind us then accessing the pictures from an alien site. So when we test our links from the Message text box and again after we've posted, both of which accesses are from Network54, they work, as long as we haven't cleared our cookies.

Our readers however will not normally have that cookie, so their efforts to access the pictures directly from Network54 via our direct to picture links won't work. But if they copy/paste our links into a new browser tab or window they are NOT accessing the links from an intermediate web site such as Network54, so they do work. Note that copy/pasting them is not the same thing as opening the links in a new tab or window from the thread. In the latter case the access is tagged as from an alien site. In the former case it isn't

In essence it is an anti-hotlinking mechanism. Indeed, it doesn't stop just hot-linking, it stops any linking at all direct to the pictures from an alien site! This will be nasty if many sites start using it to protect their pictures. To test if it is operative you've got to clear your cookies, and each time you do that you've got to log back into this Forum.

Of course in this case readers can also go to page 3 of your second link in your September 6 2014, 10:46 PM contribution and click on the third and sixth pictures in the top row of thumbnails. But the only reason you posted that link was that I'd alerted you to the fact that the two direct to picture links didn't work. Under normal circumstances it wouldn't have been there.

 
 
American Way

Re: 1947 Time magazine article on Sorority initiation (including paddling)

September 23 2014, 11:35 PM 

Die Die Delta Pi (2013)

“It’s pledge week and all the girls of Delta Pi are just rushing to die”

http://vimeo.com/98984699

Review.

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Back in stylish 80's. The acting is not all that bad and a step up from the quotidian slasher films.

http://vimeo.com/98984699

Paddling scenes.

29 seconds into the vimeo video

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Images.

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I wonder what these girls feel about the name of their Jewish sorority used for a slayer film.

http://www.deltapisorority.org/

 
 
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