As you will no doubt be aware, we have received thousands of reports of instances of corporal punishment that took place in schools in the last century. Many are run-of-the-mill stories, but occasionally we are sent an account where the writer is describing something quite out of the ordinary. (q.v. the early contributions of. Ketta).

Your ‘slipper book’ pieces fall into this latter category. No slipper book has been mentioned here before, and naturally there will be interest in knowing which school possessed such a book.

Since many thousands of children would have attended your wife’s school over the years, there is absolutely no question that she could be identified (and thus suffer the concomitant embarrassment ) if you were to name the school.

You may be interested in reading a topic entitled
‘An Unnamed School is a Fantasy School’ started by one of our most distinguished writers.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/198833/thread/1087884648/last-1088259186/An+Unnamed+School+is+a+Fantasy+School

There have been several posts by me describing the slippering my wife Received from her headmistress. I know they were true because I know my wife. Also her friend witnessed the punishment. I can see your point I also would Be suspicious reading a similar post. I have no fear of the authenticity of My wifes account of her punishment. If it was fantasy woud'nt I be more Likely to say I was the girl. If I told you the name of the school what would Your procedure be. I also would be interested to know more of the C.P Practices of the school. My wife won't discuss it with me any more, She feels Embarrassed about it. So I would have to be sure nothing would get back

The above from Paul b gives another example of what has been known for years - although thousands of women received corporal punishment at school, many of them are too embarrassed to talk about it.

O for some more women like Fiona Phillips and Joan Riley.

Research Assistant 2 As your name suggests you must be one of a team of Researchers. I would like to know in what form do you research unusual posts. Before my wife had told me of her school experience I too had never heard of A slipper book. I had heard of punishment books but have never seen one. I Just presumed a slipper book was a type of punishment book to record a Slippering I didn't find it unusual. I would like to name the school but I Need to feel comfortable in my own mind about it with no repercussions

Paul

Act with caution ,eleborate tomorrow pushed for time.

Ketta

Ketta Thank you for your advice. I will be cautious.

Paul b:

There is nothing unusual about our research methods. We simply gather information and publish it here… most of it. It is not our intention to make our contributors feel uncomfortable, so if you prefer not to name your wife’s school then please do not feel under any pressure to so do.

I look forward to pressed for time Ketta adding something most illuminating tomorrow.

Paul

Unless your wife was to visit this site, naming her school provides no personal link to your un-named wife. I have named two of the schools I attended, my partner like your wife, is unaware I post to this forum.

As you say, you’ve only just moved into the 21st centaury re computers, and need to feel really confident. However, it’s not without saying, via search engines a name can be picked up and connected to this site. Therefore naming a school I’m guessing poses a remote risk of such happening . I only picked up on this a few months back after a name I posted here, later doing an unconnected search, linked to this forum. I’ve just tested this again entering the word Ketta it links to my post of the 31 May and another later.

Assuming a name search may be picked up like this, if your wife or her friend looking for information say, her old school, typed into a search engine, by chance hit, the possibility is she may open the link thinking it is a school related site.

The forum technical team may have a suitable filter in place to avoid school naming appearing on search engines, and could verify for your peace of mind .


Not related to naming a school, but one to be wary of , sometime back I was mailed to my forum email address. Posting unsociable hours forgot to delete, not that I thought it posed a problem. Whoever it was, referred to me as Ketta, a pseudonym to this site only, I can only assume this was a non posting background lurker,. I’m not saying this would happen in your case being male, but there are those out there that stoop at nothing seeking or requesting more lurid detail regarding female CP, I don’t post here as fodder for the like, bounced it back, deleted, it ceased. It is obvious your wife does not know you post to this site, what she has told you, has, I suspect been told in confidence. but caution, should she share your email address, that is, should you post here under such, at any time.

As for the slipper book, never heard of a punishment book being so named, teachers had all sorts of pet names for their enforcers of whacks, and we gave teachers enough nick names, so who knows what kinky idea your wife’s headmistress had, to me the majority of teachers appeared slightly eccentric.

Ketta

PAUL

I posted a while back re someone who went to school in Merseyside in the mid-70's. I know STOPP were on then about one Merseyside school where 2/3rd's of the school roll were in the caning book,girls included.

I think, if memory serves correctly, and mine is photographic, they also went on about another school where nearly every girl had been slippered AND IT WAS IN THE BOOK.

So, though it was 10 years later & a bit further north than Wolverhampton, it looks like your missus's fate was replicated.

Unlike us blokes, women tend to be embarassed about their misdemeanours-so if your good lady wishes no further examination of her encounter with the slipper,I don't think we should pry any further.

I know you are telling the truth here-the fantasists will always gild the lily somewhere, like saying it was witnessed by a male teacher, etc & as your posts have singularly failed to amp it up, I know it happened.

Bet you've never been in any danger of bedroom slippers for Father's Day gifts, though!!


Steve M

The forum technical team may have a suitable filter in place to avoid school naming appearing on search engines, and could verify for your peace of mind. (Ketta)

Despite having undergone a rigorous training scheme, our technical team are unable to provide such a filter.

…a non posting background lurker. (Ketta)

The Posting/Lurking Tracker shows that there are hoards of these. Each month thousands of visits to the Forum are made from people in, amongst others, Canada, Italy, Spain, France, Germany and Denmark, but contributions sent from these countries are rare. I suspect that the email mentioned above by Ketta emanated from Canada.

Ketta, Steve, Thank you both for your posts,I found them most informative. As you say Ketta I don't think I would incur the same problem as you, With Me being male. I find it unlikely my wife even knows of this sites Existence. My guess is this site gets lots of visits with only a few that Actually contribute. I would only need to be conserned by mischievous Background lurkers. With your combined posts its made me feel a lot more Comfortable in giving the name of the school ( If only for my own Curiosity ). I have recently registered my own E-mail address for my laptop So no worries there. Steve, I may suggest a pair of mens mule slippers for Fathers day to my wife, But already know the answer "I DON'T THINK SO"

Paul

I can see no good reason why you should give the name of your wife's school if you feel uncomfortable with doing so. Most lurkers and participants here will not know of it - and if they do it would prove nothing. Lotta was fond of saying an un-named school is a fantasy school but who cares? Most of us like to read of other peoples experiences - with this forum it happens to be school discipline (or 50% ofd the messages are, anyway)but it could be anything.
If someone believes or doesn't believe an account it doesn't matter. No one is going to have his or her opinion changed by a far-fetched account unless he/she is too stupid to tell the difference!
I would advise you not to disclose the school's name - and don't worry about the doubters.

PAUL

If you want to find out, I will willingly research for you on FR, and report back here that the school as named is on there etc.

Just feed this

my chemical romance-helena

into search on E-bay home page & then contact the seller of the DVD item with the earliest expiry date, asking him which 3 players covered Wolves' wing positions in their promotion season of 66-67-I saw them at Ketta's Fulham on the first day on 67=8 season and they are engraved on my brain!

You will then get my e-mail address to send the school details to ie name of school, year your missus left & her maiden name if desired.


Steve M

Steve

Ok Rub it in,

the worst season we finished bottom. Lost the first match 1-2 to wolves, see what happens when your stuck in Wales.

We only won ten matches the whole season. Relegated and came bottom in the 68/9, and relegated again to division 3.

Didn’t do much better this season and I’ve got my son’s Derby County to contend with next season,

Least I had the pleasure of going to the New Wembley, cup final and seeing Mike and your beloved Reds, Oh sorry Steve, didn’t they loose to Chelsea, and as Chelsea ground stands within the Fulham boundary that’s good enough compo for me for the two Man U wins over Fulham in 67/8

Only kidding, the match wasn’t that brill, but if you’ve ever been to Wembley, the new hasn’t lost any of the ambience

By the way have you got a licence to hawk on this site.

Ketta

KETTA

It's OK,girl,Steve had bids on that item already-I had a bowse last night!

Geez, the Fulham v Man U in 67-8 was on Good Friday, I recall, and I remember one that didn't go in-Bobby Charlton thunderbolt that Tony Macedo fisted away-bounced into touch on the half-way line;the ball, that was, not Tony's flamin' fist!!

Best of all was down the King's Road that evening with Bestie himself-dollybirds falling over themselves, partly for Bestie & partly for Bob. Quite a few of them pining for the police alsatian flagellation ritual, though I haveta say Bestie won the contest hands or rather knickers down!

Bit like the score at the Cottage, which we won't regurgitate for ya, as us Man U fans are a sensitive breed.


BOB

Okay I know that its me and the rest of you are right.
But for the life of me I cannot understand the fascination of football and supporting football teams?
Whats it all about?

I can only describe how I feel. Being a supporter I feel part of that club . Similar to a wolf belonging to a pack. Thousands of minds willing the ball Into the opponents net, The frustration of the near misses. If or when you do Score a goal all your pent-up frustrations, Passions explode from you, along With most of your fellow supporters

Please Mimi don’t tell us you play or follow that public school game, played by men or boys with odd shaped balls.


Football starts when your dad takes you to your first match with your scarf, bobble hat and rattle, the whole crowd egging on one team or the other. You cheer, jump up and down and learn songs and chants you never heard before. You go to a school where half support Fulham the other Chelsea, for survival it’s compulsory to join one or the other, your hooked.

So hooked you plead and succeed to join a team some 2nd and 3rd years formed, pretty poor but we enter a league playing the opposition on wormwood scrubs Saturday mornings,. As Fulham supporters, we were well impressed by the efforts of one our older girls dating a certain Fulham player, (who, incidentally born in Chelsea) arranges a kick around practice for us on their pitch, and with no proper kit, another match pending sweet talked the loan of their second colour kit, ( then all red of all colours). modification needed shorts too large the school needlework room with lookout standing guard transformation, the nylon shorts to fit each and all, even if the shirts was two sizes to big, My claim to fame, I might not have been the one dating young Les but got into the shorts of then famous no 11,albeit without the skill, and 12 years old.

Total disaster looms, a girl short for the Saturday match , desperate measures we hijacked this rather effeminate looking second year lad , can’t remember what we promised him but he took the bait, turned up and we played him,(football that is) his embarrassment having to change with a bunch of girls was only the start, as anyone with half decent eyesight will tell, girls just don’t have the physique for football, they run and kick differently for starters, our impostor tackled harder and scored us a couple of super goals, even if he did look like a flaming girl without boobs. We were quickly sussed, spotted for what he was, the murmurs of the opposition turned sour and called us a load of *******cheats . consequently banned we never played again . Spent hours picking out stitches of the flaming shorts to which never looked the same again, a bit of a sore talking point back at the cottage. The rest is history I never played football again but my loyalty to the club remains.

Ketta

Folks

Have heard from Paul & will now investigate on FR re his wife's school.

Naturally, this remains between him & me, though I will vouchsafe details that don't identify her or the school on here, as discovered.

KETTA

Your efforts aged 12 were incredible.

Please find attached bubble-gum card images of LB in 1967-8/1969-70 & 1972-73 seasons from top to bottom.









Enjoy!!



Steve M

For the purposes of the following, Paul's wife has become Miranda, after Miranda Sex Garden, a fave Goth group.

Miranda's school exists & thrives on FR. Her Deputy Headmistress is mentioned in Memories, briefly, by another girl near to Miranda's year as......

"Does anybody remember Miss Peabody, Deputy Head"

And try getting the Teacher Memories up-impossible! I landed on page 1 of 2 once in 30 attempts & found out a lot about caning masters, caned boys & even a fondling master, fondlingly remembered by boys.

Perhaps somebody DID remember Miss Peabody!!


AND


I found an ex-girlfriend from an old workplace on there last night, One I knew was slippered at school. As she's just confirmed, in her case, the school sec typed a note that was put on to her school record.

AND she named two other local schools where I knew back in 66/67 boys were caned, girls slippered, and where she's subsequently discovered separate punishment books existed for both sexes.

She knew, because her husband went to one of these two & her sister-in-law to the other! So, Oldborough Manor and Senacre Sec Mod schools in Maidstone had slipper books, it appears!!

Finally, I did a profile search on FR on all girls in Miranda's leaving year, the one before that & the one after it. About 40 in all & not ONE remotely bouncy, exuberant or chatty type.

Seems like Horror Lane Sec Mod would have been a better name than...........!

Paul-Miranda has our profound sympathies!


Steve M

My apologies for being 3 day's late Danny, but very true words indeed

I dislike so called team games intensely, perhaps because of rubish PE teachers during my school life.
I prefer solo sports.
No not that kind

Further research shows Miss Peabody was still inflicting herself on schoolgirls up to 5 years after Miranda suffered.

As I've heard in the nick--"Hope you die screaming of cancer!"

Not pleasant, but then neither was Miss Peabody, as Miranda and quite a few others will testify!


I must add that my ex-girlfriend's slipperer was matter-of-fact about it, laid it on with gusto, but closed the incident pretty swiftly thereafter AND allowed Anne-Marie 10 mins to visit the bogs, wash her face & compose herself afterwards,too.

Doesn't look like the word compassion was in Miss Peabody's vocabulary.



Steve M

Not only Miss Peabody, compassion seems to be a word a lot of teachers lacked in their vocabulary.

K

Almost everyone with power, whether a great amount or very little, arrogantly flaunt it and imagine they are right and those they are dealing with are wrong. Policemen think every citizen is a potential criminal because they are constantly coming in contact with criminals; Doctors think everyone is ill; Headmasters think all schoolboys are forever misbehaving. You cannot expect them to feel differently after they retire.
Remorse is a very rare emotion indeed.

The police in particular go to Hendon to be de humanized.
They come out with a them and us attitude.
For instance all police drivers think they are superior, the truth is that they are involved in far more crashes than ordinary mortals. Driving fast and on the wrong side of the road is okay for them but minor misdemeanors are treated as if with criminal intent.
They can not be reasoned with but treat them like they are marvelous and you can get away with murder.
Just like teachers they have a hieracy and pass the buck downwards. Constable plod then takes it out on the public.
They have increased their powers yet crime has not reduced, something is very wrong.
As for Doctors, best avoided. Once in the system forever in the system.

I used to know several local police officers many ago when I lived and worked in the London/Essex area. The thing that amazed me was the way they used to flaunt the drinking and driving law! I don't know if they still get away with it but apparently they had this agreement among them that no copper would grass on another one for it! The medical profession is the same and I suppose most others are similar. The one that seems to be the very opposite is the car repair trade where any garage you go to immediately blames the last one you went to for doing a shoddy job!

Danny, When you say medical profession are you including ward sisters and Nurses. The doctors close ranks true, but sisters and nurses are held Accountable for their actions, and often take the blame for the doctors

Well said. I agree.

Danny

I spent last week witnessing various police vehicles heading in and out of police headquarters, totally violating the temporally enforced one way traffic system, unlike joe public who had to take the long route, for them it was a quick flout of the law.

And when our non law abiding policemen do get caught on the more serious offences, and court is inevitable it's close ranks, send offender off on a spell of sick leave namley stress, and retire them on a good pension due to ill health,

K

I correspond on a regular basis with two forum members, Mike from OZ
and Steve M. There would have been a third Danny, but he seems to have
disappeared from the scene.
They are really nice people and we write to each other on a wide range
of subjects.
They say it's a small world and that appears to be the case because a
woman work colleague of Mike emigrated to Australia from England and
from a conversation with Mike discovered she and her older sister went
to the same school as my wife.
Miss Peabody so named from an earlier post on this thread was their
Deputy Headmistress.
So although Mike's colleague is five years younger than my wife and
her sister two, they were all given the slipper by Miss Peabody, in
fact four times in Mike's fellow workers case.
Miss Peabody told the girls all CP was documented. She also told girls
prior to a slippering that she had looked in her book. I can only
assume she meant The Slipper Book. I will stress the sister's never
actually saw The Book, but their names would have been entered either
before or after the slippering.
The probable reason Miss Peabody wrote my wife's name in The Book
infront of her may have been because she was slippered after school
had finished and Peabody had been taking a class prior to the final
bell, she wanted to go home and thought she would save a bit of time
writing in the book while my wife was fetching a chair.
I would like to thank Mike for acquiring this information on my
behalf.