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(vid) TV Nation - Caning Documentary

July 27 2007 at 7:31 AM
skoolcane 

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This is a segment from Michael Moore's TV Nation (1994). After the controversy surrounding the caning of an American student in Singapore, Mike decides to investigate the "fine art of caning," and its roots as a tradition in England.

This brought back some memories for me - I do remember watching it first time around. References to the old Bognor Cane Company and the Rodney School for Girls - The caning demonstration on a dummy boy by the Headmaster is scary !!

SC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BVR3UswjHY

Credit to Paul at SFR
http://www.network54.com/Forum/209127/thread/1185444502/last-1185517469/Caning+Documentary+on+YouTube

 
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Georgiec

Re: (vid) TV Nation - Caning Documentary

July 27 2007, 10:55 AM 

I'm not one to get upset about such things, but when I post this on 22 July on the thread "School Dinners" no-one except Headboy says anything.

And now we get on this forum and the other one "Thanks to Paul for this marvellous find" and "Credit to Paul at SFR" - well really .....<lip trembles slightly, but tries to shrug off as not important... sobs gently to self and dabs eyes with handkerchief that has seen better days>

 
 
monty

Re: (vid) TV Nation - Caning Documentary

July 27 2007, 11:00 AM 

Thought I had viewed it before George,well done!

Report to Miss.Trashum. for help in your disturbed time.

 
 
Georgiec

Re: (vid) TV Nation - Caning Documentary

July 27 2007, 11:06 AM 

She's the one who's made me disturbed!

 
 
skoolcane

Credit to Georgiec

July 27 2007, 9:52 PM 

Sorry Georgiec - you were first with this no doubt - only sorry I missed your posting on 22/07/07.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/198833/thread/1185047228/last-1185132751/School+Dinners

Credit to you.

Im off to School Dinners to see if they serve hunmble pie with 6 of the best !!

Cheers

SC


 
 
Ketta

Re: (vid) TV Nation - Caning Documentary

July 28 2007, 6:32 PM 

Georgiec

Not wanting to visualise a fellow forumee sobbing into a hanky. Praise indeed for your find Vid (post thread school dinners) the exact event I was trying to recall,talk about great minds think alike, The only thing I didn't remember, was the reference to Rodney school, but do remember seeing Rodney on TV at sometime. Maybe I thought that came from another documentary, but thinking logically the dates would have been wrong

Some people might remember dependant on your age this TV program, featuring CP in school and the home. All I recall, a head teacher possibly, showing off a cane and slipper having a discussion with the interviewer , the scene then went onto a domestic scene, a couple of kids taking a bath, then switched to their father showing a small cane which he announced he punished his children with at home, maybe the bath scene was coincident filming as there was some engaged conversation with the children, or that’s when they got it, after bath time?? I don't recall any child being caned or slippered. All rather bizarre because it’s so sketchy in my mind.

The only thing that really sticks, it was an evening I had been allowed to stay up past my 8.00 bed time, watching it in the presence of my parents and feeling really uncomfortable about the whole thing. Anyone else have any recollection of this programme B&W doumentary possible 1962/4, but may have been reshown at a later date.

Ketta


 
 
Danny

Re: (vid) TV Nation - Caning Documentary

July 28 2007, 7:21 PM 

I don't remember that TV program, Ketta, but I watched Michael Moore's doc the other night.
Having seen it, I must reluctantly agree with one thing HB said and that is that sometimes CP forms an 'interest' in those who experience it.
The chap who is seen at the end of that snippet, who was explaining to Moore how to pronounce 'buttocks', was Roddy Llewellyn, a one time 'intimate friend' of Princess Margaret. I knew his father, Harry, very well - a big name in show-jumping - and I know for a fact that he used to cane Roddy and his brother, regularly and very severely.
I haven't seen Roddy for many years but it was obvious from that doc that he has more than a passing interest in CP now!

Appologies HB, I know you don't like folk like me agreeing with you.

 
 
Research Assistant 2

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July 28 2007, 9:21 PM 

For clarification and the avoidance of doubt:

skoolcane,

Rodney School is co-educational.

Danny,

The Llewellyn brother seen in the documentary and described as the owner of the Bognor Cane Company is Dai and not Roddy.

Ketta,

The excerpt featuring Rodney School has been on the Internet since November of last year and you may have seen it at

http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/BigJohnPeacehaven/video/xnczm_a-caning-headmistress-speaks_school

Former pupils of William Penn School,

You may have noticed Richard Morant in the role of Flashman in the caning scene from ‘Tom Brown’s Schooldays’.

 
 
Danny

Re: (vid) TV Nation - Caning Documentary

July 28 2007, 9:32 PM 

Thanks RA, I haven't seen either of them for many years. Thanks for that.

 
 
Danny

Re: (vid) TV Nation - Caning Documentary

July 28 2007, 10:42 PM 

I have just realised I was in my late 20's when I knew Harry! God, it seems like yesterday but it was more than 40 years ago, nearly 50! Time I shuffled off, methinks!
What was that, HB? Hear hear?

 
 
SteveM

Re: (vid) TV Nation - Caning Documentary

July 29 2007, 2:13 PM 

RA2

Was that the Tom Brown series on BBC,where Iain Cuthbertson, late of Charlie Endall, alongside Adam Faith in the immortal Budgie, played Tom Arnold?

If it was,Richard Morant was a quite brilliant Flashman.


Steve M

 
 
Research Assistant 2

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July 29 2007, 2:20 PM 


 
 
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