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boys corporally punished by women teachers

August 11 2007 at 4:15 AM
safrada 

 
I originally posted this question some time ago but forgot to give it a title, so I'm posing the queston again:
Were any posters here ever given the cane or the slipper by a woman teacher, or do they know of others boys who were?

Apart from the occasional reference on Friendsreunited to cane- or slipper-wielding female teachers I am assuming this was a rare practise, at least in secondary schools.

 
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Steven0958

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

August 11 2007, 7:39 AM 

I got the slipper from a woman teacher at my junior school, Parkhill in Ilford, Essex.

It was mostly the male teachers there, and the headmaster, who used the slipper but there was one woman teacher, Mrs D, who did make use of it a lot. I was never in her class but when we were lining up in the corridor one day to get on the coach for a swimming lesson she saw me pushing in.

She pulled me out of the line and bent me over and gave me two whacks with her plimsoll about as hard as the other slipperings I got there.

 
 
Bozo

Teeches

August 11 2007, 10:46 AM 

We only ever had one woman teech at our all boys public school and she was an old frump.
In primary school the toddler teech might give a few naughty smacks on the palm with a rool,but that was about it from this dept.

 
 
mimi

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

August 11 2007, 5:19 PM 

Miss B gave boys the slipper in my class. The age was about 14/15 ( the boys not the teacher) we conned her into doing it herself rather than her sending us to the male teacher next door by volunteering various plimsoles and advising her on the most effective type. She was from one of our former dominions and her mouth watered and her eyes lit up when she did it. She was definitely a spanko!
Sounds incredible but is totally true.

 
 
Research Assistant 2

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

August 12 2007, 2:25 PM 

It seems that female teachers were more likely to give physical punishment to boys in UK primary rather than in secondary schools.

Hereunder, a few words written by our Honorary Life Member, Joan Riley:

‘Now this woman [headmistress of a primary school] didn't cane or
slipper a child for any old thing - but it was available and kept
the school running along the right lines when disruption did
occur .Both of my eldest were caned rightly by her and I had no
complaint (excepting that my eldest was caned on his hands and I
asked her that if he needed punishing so again it should be on his
bottom and she was fine with that - and I didn't go up to the school
ranting and raving about that - I made an appointment and we settled
the matter amicably).When I went up about the uniform changes she
told me openly that the corporal punishment ban was just about the
last straw in government interference in her school and not having
that sanction had led to a decline in behaviour standards overall.’




 
 
Thomas

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

August 26 2007, 3:27 AM 

I received the cane five times during my schooling and three of those were from female members of staff. My 5th grade teacher Miss Kamer caned me once and my headmistress Mrs Joss caned me two times. My high school headmaster caned me the other two times, Miss Kamer gave me three strokes on my buttocks and my other punishments were administered to the palms of my hands.

 
 
winston

In S'pore

August 26 2007, 7:02 AM 

i studied In S'pore,i got caned by my principal[discipine master on leave],a lady in her 30's,last month,3 strokes on the buttocks[with uniform on],quite painful,but not as painful as the caning i got from my discipine master last year[maybe weaker.?]

 
 
penistone

Hatfield House Lane Secondary Modern

August 27 2007, 10:47 PM 

I attended Hatfield House Lane Secondary Modern (Sheffield)in the 1960s. I remember Miss Proctor swishing the cane quite a lot. It was never on the bum, always on the hand. She was a cold vicious bitch, who dressed like a beatnik. I once saw her slap a timid kid across his eczema blotched face. She eventually took up with Mr Bee, a thuggish art-teacher. After they wed, Mrs Bee would send misbehaving boys to be caned by her scruffy, red-bearded spouse. He prided himself on 'really laying it on'---again, always on the hand.

Muriel Pickering was another teacher at the school. She tried to resolve the problem of her unruly class by putting the slipper across the ring-leaders' backsides. Unfortunately, the good-natured Muriel lacked the temperament necessary to whack to good effect. The naughty lads stuck out their bums with impunity and pride, and easily absorbed Miss Pickering's inept spankings. So, she too began sending culprits off to be punished by a male. Muriel chose John Richardson--a towering, bearded, spiritualist--from Middlesborough. This bloke would often lament, out loud, that he ought to be allowed to 'birch you all on your bare backsides'. As things were, he had to confine his sadistic impulses to palms and fingers. The canings he inflicted were so painful, that we were all cowed in a matter of weeks. He would then frequently vent his existential fury on a life-size plasticine hand, which he kept on his desk.

Pat Meeham was the dykey gym-teacher. She took the boys for music; and she once threatened to give me 'a good old-fashioned spanking'. I grinned back at her in eager anticipation, which she took to be incredulity, and prompted her to say: ' You think I'm joking, but I've smacked bigger bottoms than yours'. I bet she had; but, sadly, she never carried out her threat to smack mine.

I'm grateful to good old Pat, though, for the very stimulating sight of her delivering a single slipper-stroke to a very gorgeous female athlete. This girl was warming up on the playing field. I was a few feet away, as she lay on her back cycling her lovely legs in the air, and displaying the gusset of her navy-blue knickers to my loving eyes. Up came Meeham, seemingly out of nowhere, brandishing a plimsol. The wallop inflicted, caused the teenaged beauty to leap to her feet, rubbing her seat . Miss Meeham looked her briefly in the eye, and then swivelled her gaze meaningfully towards me. The girl raced off round the field. Meeham walked away whistling. And my knob throbbed hard enough to bust through concrete.

 
 
Research Assistant 2

Re: Hatfield House

August 28 2007, 7:19 AM 

penistone,

Do you remember Miss Holmes?


From ‘Friends Reunited’:

Added by John Salkeld on 16/08/2003 19:17 year: 1963Miss Holmes

I can remember being caned by Miss Holmes for "persistently [sic] talking in class" as she wrote on the blackboard. My voice had broken and she thought that she could recognise it. Unfortunately (for me) so had Paul Mallard's, the real culprit. I took several strokes, with dignity.

 
 
penistone

Miss Holmes

August 28 2007, 9:27 AM 

Funnily enough, I woke up, this morning, thinking about "Holmsey"---trying to recall her name. I am a couple of years younger than the person who wrote the FR entry; and Miss Holmes left the school a year, or so, after I started there. If I remember rightly, she took us for technical drawing.

A no-nonsense type, Miss Holmes kept her thick, yellow, cane constantly on her desk. I was never a recipient; but there were a hard core of lads whose hands she seemed to cane twice a week (at least)---usually, for very trivial offences e.g grinning at someone across the room.

The cruelty of her caning aside, I found her an erotic figure, due to the figure-hugging trousers she wore---a unique sight back then.


 
 
penistone

Mrs Holmes

August 28 2007, 11:33 AM 

It was Mrs Holmes, actually.

 
 
george

who did it harder

August 28 2007, 6:55 PM 

I think it was very rare that boys in secondary schools were given corporal punishment in the form of the slipper or cane by female teachers. In junior schools it was a little more common but was regarded as a task to be carried out by a male member of staff.The ruler across the hands/knuckles or slaps with the hand on the back of the legs was more common by female teachers.

In most schools prior to 1970 the heads of junior schools tended to be male. If the head was male the deputy was female. They would punish pupils of the same sex. However cases did occur where females did cane junior boys, either on their hands or mostly across their trousers.i have not come across a case, even at junior school where a female has caned a boy on his bare bottom. Females may have, in the lower junior school smacked boys bare bottoms with their hand but nothing more severe.

I recall once, but cannot recall how it came about, that one of the senior female teachers caned several boys, with my cane while I was out of school, I think at a Governors meeting. I remember returning and went into the changing room and saw the marks on the boys in the shower that she had caned. The marks were much more severe following the caning than I left on a boys bottom. I remember years after, in the pub, one of these boys commented on the fact that she applieed the cane much harder than I did, and really harder than what was required to obtain the desired result. I have heard this from other boys, that if they are whacked by a female teacher they tend to do it harder than male teachers. I wonder if any members have any comments about if male or female teachers whacked the hardest.


George...still lurking on site

 
 
American Way

Periodic Irritability by Dr. Ossian Lang

May 27 2011, 2:06 AM 

I have referred to this issue on more than one occasion when it came to assessing the likelihood of being on the receiving end of punishment with the Sisters of No Mercy, corporal or otherwise I monitored the phases of the moon. Granted there are other factors that are not gender specific causes of irritability, but sit an hour in my trousers before you cast aspersions. I learned this before sophomore biology and has served me subsequently in good stead. Read what the renown pedagogue had to say about this in the last paragraph of that story. I learned this fifty years ago and he wrote about that more than fifty years before.

CLICK

 
 
Edward Bear

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

May 27 2011, 5:36 PM 

I was employed in a large organisation, now retired, and for a short time in the early 70s when I was 26 years old, I worked with a young man that had just turned twenty one years old a few weeks earlier. He had recently married a lady of 33 and he told me that she was one of his high school teachers. She had been witness to one of his canings when he was 16, then actually caned him, herself when he was 17, just before he left school. He went to a polytechnic and gained a diploma in Supervision and Management, then found that he enjoyed working with people, more than working in an office. So he was working in my group. He told me that after he left school he met his ex teacher at a church social and they had had a good time. The relationship went on from there.

He had to wait until he was 21 to get married as his parents were against the relationship, telling him that 'she was too old for him.' I did get to meet his wife at a work social evening and she seemed to be a nice enough lady. It was very easy to see that she was older than him and I often wondered whether or not she still caned my work mate's backside if he made her angry.

By the way he worked for my group for a year then went back to uni and became an accountant. I kept in touch with them for a few years exchanging Christmas cards etc, then ran into them at a coffee bar in Auckland recently when my wife and I were for there for a couple of days visiting old friends.

He told me that he owned his own business, an accountants firm that specialised in looking after smaller businesses books.

Ted B


 
 
prof.n

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

May 27 2011, 9:47 PM 

Hi George,

As I have written on here before, in the case of my secondary education , we did during a period of sick leave for the incumbent actually have a seconded deputy head from our sister school. Because we were independent schools the cost of sick pay fell directly on the schools themselves, and the governing body were renowned for being parsimonious when it came to cover staffing. As the girls school had two deputy heads with less students than ours, and one deputy was well used to teaching boys, so secondment was determined........Now I admit that I knew her too well outside the school to have an unbiased opinion ( she taught me guitar, (I eventually played in her country rock group) and she was then my girlfriend's mother) . So far as the other boys were concerned the facts speak for themselves. They had a league table of those staff ( Head, deputy, and house masters) who could cane. In terms of the 'hardest' caner Jackie tied with the Headmaster for first place ( he caned very infrequently).She had one saving grace, whilst she might cane hard, she was also seen as having the most pleasant attitude to the culprit, in that she rarely shouted or appeared angry. This was more than offset by her reputation as a fearsome tennis and squash player.....skills she put to good use with the cane .

Because of the sex issue, and it being an all boys school, boys could ask to be caned by a man , and some did to avoid the hardest 'usual' caner. I, of course couldn't , it would have been more than my miserable life was worth!!!! Indeed , again as I've repeated on here before , she was the first member of staff in that school ever to cane me : and she did a damned good job too!

More generally , my primary school only had one male teacher, the deputy Head, and women punished both boys and girls. The headmistress using a Scottish Tawse ( shew hailed from Scotland : and as a concession to attract Scottish teachers 'over the border' in my LEA Heads were allowed to use that instead of the cane if they wished). She did , and she used to belt very hard indeed.

I don't think there is much evidence that women hit any less hard than men, and some substantial indications, as you say that the opposite is true! Anyone with the mistaken impression that being being caned by an attractive 30 some year old woman was a walk in the park , certainly didn't attend my school!

 
 
Batfinch

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

May 27 2011, 10:20 PM 

We had a female teacher who used a wooden pencil case across the bottom of boys she taught in the secondary school I attended.

I did not receive it myself but saw 15 year old boys wallopped with in c1960



 
 

Bob T

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

May 28 2011, 9:44 PM 

Over here in the colonies it is not unusual for women teachers to administer cp to boys or girls these days. TWP is a prime example. When I was in school girls were rarely if ever paddled. It may be that because I didn't have a female teacher after the 4th grade I just escaped that further humiliation.

 
 
John 1

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

May 29 2011, 2:08 PM 

This is a fascinating subject, Edward's account sounds fascinating. I am inclined to think this scenario happened more commonly than girl's being caned. Can someone right some more accounts and when is this most likely to have occurred. Would this be possible in Singapore or Malaysia?

 
 
Rodney Bacon

Re: boys corporally punished by women teachers

May 29 2011, 2:46 PM 

During WW2 some schools were run almost entirely by female teachers. I would imagine that the caning of troublesome boys by females became accepted after that.

 
 

Dave R

Female teachers using CP

May 29 2011, 10:48 PM 

UK mixed junior school, 60s & 70s, most of the form teachers were female. Smacks, spankings & the slipper were common in the classroom, administered to both boys and girls. I've mentioned on other threads our headmistress at that time, Mrs.Nettle (yes really) who used cane and slipper. In senior (boys')school most teachers were male, but we did have the stunningly gorgeous Anya, the teenage lad's dream. She was Russian and taught us,er,Russian. She used the strap(the standard implement). Imagine if you will the accent from the TV-ad meerkats ("syimples") telling you to "biend ovr" from an Anna Kournikova loookalike happy.gif [ok ok she was a bit fatter...] .

 
 
 
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