Isn’t it about time the moderators moved the obvious fantasy posts to a stand alone FANTASY THREAD,


I’m not suggesting we delete someone’s ramblings, in essence they do no real harm, some may enjoy the read, we all harbour our kinks and fantasies, and yes we can choose to ignore them. But postings like the one from C.P "caning in front of the school" buried in what started as a genuine thread, are so beyond the norms of reality that it is an insult to the intelligence of genuine posters and readers.

It could go someway to explain why so many of the loyal and trusted have drifted from this forum.

Ketta

FANTASY POSTING 1  sent in by CJ

I can recall two instances in the early 1970's when the cane was used in front of the whole school assembley. The cane was used almost every day but it was rare that it was used in assmebley. More often than not it would be used in front of your form or outside in the corridor. On the first instance two boys and three girls were caned for walking along the railway line and then crossing it. This was strictly forbidden and we were always told that it would result in a caning. They all got 12 strokes each on their backsides. Girls has their skirts lifted up and boys had their trousers down. On the second instance nine girls had been smoking in the art room store. It appears that one of them put their fag out on the floor bit some paper caught fire. Thankfully no serious damage or injuries were done. These nine got 15 strokes on their backsides and very hard ones at that and six over each hand. I noticed that the teacher made surre that the last three strokes for each of them hit just below their knickers. I dont ever recall any other cases in front of the whole school but often walked down a corridor and passed a pupil getting caned .

 

I really feel that it is time that these completely untrue postings ceased. Even allowing for some doubt this caning could never have taken place. I could, with a stiff brandy, just conceed that once a few boys may have got 12 strokes of the cane on their pants. No doubt as a result of such a caning the person doing it would have been arrested by the police.

In the same posting we are now expected to believe that nine girls each received 15 strokes on their knickers in front of the whole school. After such a punishment the girls would be close to the state of collasp and their bottoms bleeding. Not only did they get this but then had to hold out each hand and get six strokes on each one. Such a punishment on the hands would leave them so sore and swollen that they would not be able to hold a knife and folk or pen and pencil for days. This is after having 15 strokes on their bottom......get real.


George

FANTASY POSTING 2

Miss;
At our school we do not punish the naughty girls in front of the whole school but we do punish them at times in front of their classmates and friends in the classroom itself.
The naughty girl takes her skirt off....pantyhose and panties off lies across the teacher's lap in front of the rest of the class and recieves her bare bottom spanking.
Other times when we dismiss the class for the day we will say

"Clas Dismissed" except for Fran. [Who she?] "Please stay after School"

Well everybody knows somebody is going to get a spanking!!!
Please write. Thanks.

Mrs. Laurey Allman.
fornacation101@hotmail.com

Yes I agree with Ketta-long winded fictional porno spanking stories
reduce the excitment of this Board diluting it,though on the whole my positionwould be "indifferent"as to "vehimentlyopposed".
But photos-thats a different matter.....
However any suggested exclusionof the story tellersought to be done inasensitive and delicate way-=after all they are contributing and they are artists

Surely, the recently-posted collection of 'smacked on legs' stories will be appearing in this thread?

For clarification and the avoidance of doubt, Leanne, Cynthia, Emily and Esmeralda are very closely related. He is not related to Anthea nor to Christine. Anthea and Christine are not related to each other.



I attended a very strict private girls school in England during the 1980s and the only form of classroom corporal punishment was smacked legs, even in secondary school. This was only administered by female teachers obviously and only with an open hand. The usual procedure was for the teacher to call the girl out the front, bend her over a desk, lift the back of her skirt or dress and administer between 4 and 6 really hard smacks aross the back of each upper thigh. This was a very effective form of classroom discipline and usually settled the rest of the class down very quickly. (Leanne)

Hi Leanne. Well smacked legs were very common in most girls schools in the UK during the 1970s and 1980s. I am very skeptical of accounts of girls being caned during this time, since caning was certainly not permitted at the school I attended even though it was a very strict private school. Some of the physical education teachers (female of course) did use the slipper but only in private, never in front of the other students. This was not very common and mostly for senior girls. The only public form of corporal punishment was leg smacking and sometimes bottom smacking but only with open hand. Leg smacking at the front of the class was to be avoided at all costs since not only did it sting but left visible hand prnts on the back of the upper thighs which might result in additional and more serious attention when the girl arrived home. Never the less in some classes it was hard to avoid since even minor misbehaviour was often rewarded by a trip to the front desk which could esult in as many as 6 real stingers across the back of each upper thigh. It was a very effective form of classroom punishment. (Cynthia)

Hi Cynthia. Yes there was no caning in my school. I agree that even during the 1970s and 1980s caning of girls would have been rare. The slipper was used sometimes, but like you mentioned not in a classroom situation. The P.E. mistress, who we called the games mistress, did slipper some girls, but always privately. Our games mistress was very strict and would not tolerate any horsing around either in P.E. or during sport. Once, myself and two other girls got caught skipping sport by the games mistress and were each given an on the spot leg smacking followed up my a good dose of the slipper (6 of the best) in her office later on. (Leanne)

My experience is similar to those of Leanne/Cynthia.

I was at a girls' secondary modern in London and corporal punishment
was very much a disciplinary option. The ultimate sanction was - as
ever in those days - the cane, but there were other sanctions used
such as the slipper and, for lesser offences, slapped legs.

I'm therefore fascinated to read so many other recollections here of
that "bygone age".

For my own part, I must have been either very good or very naughty -
as I had my legs slapped a good few times and was caned twice - but
never the "middle option" of the slipper. (Anthea)
Hi Anthea. I was surprised to hear that you were caned at school. There was no caning at my school, but there was slippering. The only teachers that used the slipper were the senior mistress and the games mistress, but only in private, never in front of the class. It did not happen very often. The only kind of corporal punishment in front of the class was the occassional smack across the bottom(open hand only) or much more commonly a good leg smacking over the front desk. I was a real chatterbox in class so I was always being bent over the front desk, skirt lifted, for 4 to 6 real stingers across the back of each of my bare upper thighs, just below my knickers. How many smacks did you used to get across each leg? How high up did your teachers smack? (Leanne)

Leg slappings took place at the front of the class and were very
common - girls had to stand beside the teacher concerned as she
remained seated, then skirts would be lifted a few inches and the
backs of the thighs slapped repeatedly until both were red and sore.
Invariably girls would cry as a result of both the slaps and the
indignity of it all - very embarrassing in front of your friends.

If a male teacher deemed a leg slapping or other cp necessary, then
the girl concerned would be sent to the Deputy Headmistress or
Headmistress as appropriate. (Anthea)


Hi Anthea. It seems that your teachers used a different method. At my school the teacher was always standing and the girl was usually bent over either the front desk or the side of her own desk. Also it seems that we were smacked a lot higher up on the back of the thighs than you. Yhis was generally considered more effective. I agree that it was a very common practice in an all girls school in the UK during the 1970s and 1980s. (Leanne)

Hi Leanne. Yes a good old fashion leg smacking was always on the cards at my senior girls boarding school in Ireland during the 1980s. However I never experienced one during which the teacher remained seated. I do not think this would have been very effective. Most of the female teachers would bend you over a desk but some would smack you standing up. I used to receive a lot of smackings from the dormitory matron who was very strict but who used to give them with the girl standing up. She was relatively young and very athletic so a good seeing to from her would leave visible handprints for some time. She was also quite handy with the slipper but only used it on the bottom. (Christine)

Hi Christine. Yes I agree that it would not make much sense for the teacher to remain seated while dealing with a girl, however maybe she had her reasons. I never attended a boarding school but the matron you described sounds very fierce. I guess it was prudent to give her a very wide berth. Yes visible hand prints on the back of the legs could result in some unwelcome inquiries when one arrived home. During my senior years I was staying with a very strict aunt who was also a teacher, but thankfully not at the school I attended. She was not impressed with seeing hand prints on my upper thighs and after a few warnings she would give me a very good seeing to if the situation persisted, despite my protests. Good to hear from you. (Leanne)

Hi Anthea. I was interested to read that you had your legs smacked quite a few times at school. Were you ever given a good leg smacking in upper secondary, say form 5 or form 6?

I received quite a few sessions at the front in form 5, but by the time I got to form 6 the only teacher that handed out public smackings was the games mistress and luckily I never received any from her, but quite a few of my classmates did? I even heard rumors that the senior mistress once handed out a very severe leg smacking to some form 6 girls in the hallway for some reason but I did not witness this myself.

At my school, quite a few of the female teachers used leg slapping as a form of discipline but some had different methods. The most common being the one I described previously. Did all use the method you described or were there some variations? Great to hear from you. LOL(Leanne)


In those days we all wore skirts – it was unheard of for schoolgirls to wear trousers as they so often do today. I was in secondary school
from 1966 to 1973 which was very much the era of short skirts too.
At our school, girls were required to wear white knee high socks
rather than tights until the end of the fifth form and
the combination of short skirts and knee socks made it all too easy
for a girl's thighs to be smacked.

Leg slapping was used on girls from first year to fourth year. The older we got, the more shameful it was to be treated in what was
such a childish fashion. Although it was an all girl school and the
only teachers who slapped were also female, it was still highly
embarrassing to be dealt with in that way in front of your
classmates. You know what teenage girls are like – we all thought we
were really cool and grown up and image was everything. The normal
practice was that a girl would have to stand facing the class. The
teacher doing the slapping would remain seated at the girl's side,
and with one hand would yank the skirt up a few inches, no matter how
short it was. The procedure then would be to slap one leg and then
the other, repeatedly until the girl was crying.

Compared to the cane or slipper, it may not sound too terrible but
the teachers all seemed to be able to make those slaps sting like
crazy and of course the embarrassment factor was immense. You'd see
a girl trying desperately to keep herself from crying in front of all
her mates but no leg slapping ever stopped until a girl was in tears.

As I said before, if a male teacher decided that a girl should have
her legs slapped, she'd be sent to the Deputy Headmistress. This
would at least mean a punishment in private, but she'd compensate for
that "luxury" by really going to town with the smacks. She would
yank a girl's skirt right up almost to her bottom and would start her
slaps right at the very tops of the legs. I was sent to her once
after I'd been messing about in a Maths lesson and she slapped up and
down one leg until I thought she was never going to stop. Then, even
though I was in floods of tears, she repeated the dose on the other
leg and I felt very self conscious indeed as I spent the rest of the
day with the backs of my thighs visibly red and sore. (Anthea)

Hi Anthea
Thanks for your reply. I attended a private girls school in the U.K. during the 1980s and I suppose our skirts were relatively short. You were lucky that leg slappings stopped at your school at the end of form 4, whereas at my school they were still very common even in form 5 and very occasionally in form 6. Although by the time we got to form 5 only some of the female teachers smacked in front of the class. As I mentioned before, since I was rather talkative in class, I received more than my fair share at the front.

I agree with you that private sessions were more severe that those at the front of the class. The senior mistress at my school was very effective when it came to dealing with naughty girls and knew how to give a very severe leg slapping. She also used the slipper occassionally but only across the bottom, never across the legs. She used to bend you over a chair in her office and lift the skirt right up so she could smack you very high up on the back of the thighs. However the maximum was 6 across the back of each leg. Sometimes she slippered you across the bottom as well after the leg smacking, usually 4. However I was only sent to her twice during secondary school.

The first time I received a leg smacking, only 4 across each leg. The second time, in form 5, I received the maximum 6 across each leg plus 4 with the slipper across the bottom. You probably think that was a little severe, but looking back it was probably well deserved, since I was a bit of a brat in those days.

Were you ever given a leg smacking by a student teacher? Once I was cheeky to a student teacher during lunch time and she took me into an empty classroom and tried to give me a leg smacking but she did not know what she was doing. It was a joke. Lol (Leanne)

During the late 1970s until the mid 1980s corporal punishment was very common at my secondary girls school just outside Devonshire. Obviously the only teachers who were allowed to smack girls were the female teachers. Most took advantage of the rather short skirts that were part of the uniform of that time. The slipper was also used but to a lesser extent. Leg slapping was only with the open hand.

Well smacked legs were the order of the day and it was common to be called out the front for a good seeing to even for very minor misbehaviour. The most effective smacker was naturally the P.E. mistress. She did not need much encouragement to go to work on your bare upper thighs, regarless of yor age. This included senior girls even up to form 6. I gave her a very wide berth and managed to avoid her hand prints on the back of my legs.

Slippering was only done in private, and to my knowledge only by the senior mistress or her deputy. The slipper was usually reserved for senior girls and was eithe 4 or 6 of the best across the knickers with skirt lifted. I was only slippered once, 4 of the best. I went to a private school. I am not sure if corporal punishment was still in use in the public system around this time. Would any readers care to enlighten me on this? (Emily)

I taught at a very exclusive private girls school in the early 1990s and corporal punishment was still allowed. However I understand that at the time it was already abolished in the public system. (Esmeralda)

I think all fantasy postings should be moderated. It is obvious that there was no corporal punishment of girls in the UK after about 1980, and even before then it is highly unlikely that girls were ever caned or slippered although it is possible that some girls could have been smacked but not vert often.

You could not be more wrong!

If anything in life is a fact, it's a fact that girls were subject to CP in British schools well after 1980. To the best of my knowledge and belief, the last canings of girls in our schools took place in the mid-90s.

If we're going to be reasonable with each other, it's not usually wise to suggest that any CP-related activity 'never' happened but it's obvious that, on Internet forums, the overwhelming majority of people claiming to have received or administered CP are lying.

The tragedy is that so many apparently intelligent readers appear unable to spot the fakes.

I dont know I dont know it seems the subject is divisive as it starts quibbles about girls cp
Perhaps we ought to stiputalate that the fictionalists stick to stories pre 1970 the REAL probable date in a great decrease in CP?

Bozo:

I'm not at all sure what you're trying to say in your post.

As I have said many times before:

1) CP in some form existed in some British schools until the early '90s.
2) Girls were caned in some schools, slippered in others. In Scotland the tawse was used in many schools.
3) Depending on the school, the cane was given on the hand or on the backside. (I have been told that this was down to the personal preference of the Head Teacher, but I have no evidence of this).
4) The means of punishment seems to vary from region to region. I went to school in the NW of England, where the cane was the implement most frequently used in school for boys and girls.
5) I have subsequently met women who went to school in the East Midlands (where I worked for a time), who told that the slipper was the usual means of punishment in the schools which they attended.
6) I have never heard of a girl being caned on her bare backside in school. If a male teacher carried out a caning, it was normally done with a female member of staff in attendance. One of my female cousins, who was a schoolteacher, was frequently asked to attend such events.
7) For what it's worth, I have found that women in the north and midlands are more willing to speak about this than their southern counterparts - perhaps further evidence of the north being less inhibited in their conversations. In Scotland several ladies I have met have mentioned receiving the tawse (on the hands), whilst at school.
8) The one thread which ran through all these discussions (in most cases started by the opposite sex), is that in the sixties and seventies, cp was to be feared far more at home than it was in school. Staying out late, giving cheek, refusing to do household chores, swearing(!), were all punishable by the strap, cane, or whatever. The phase "Wait till your father gets home!" would strike fear into the heart of any young person in those days.

Further afield, I have lived and worked in Russia, Greece, and parts of the Far East. In Russia and Greece, there is no cp in schools, but plenty at home, even today. The women with whom I worked spoke of it quite openly, and considered it a normal part of life, and interestingly, admitted that in most cases, they deserved it. It is well-known that cp is prevalent in the Far East, sometimes in school, but definitely at home. There is ample (real) evidence of this on the internet.

No fantasies (correct spelling!) only facts.

There is no need for fantasy postings, on this thread at least. There is plenty of evidence out there of the real thing. You just have to look for it.

The word at the airport is that Jetta, connoisseur of FANTASY POSTINGS, is flying off again on holiday. Here, for her to read on that dreary trudge over the Urals, are the latest fantasies, all sent in by the same man.

I have read a lot of accounts of secondary schoolgirls having the back of their skirts lifted in front of the class for various punishments in an all girls school.

Did this actually happen, say after 1970? I find this hard to believe. Are there any credible accounts of this happening to any of our readers. (Kelly)



Any girl who attended an all girls school (private) in the UK between 1970 and 1990 and who claims that she did not at least witness this a few times is telling porkies. (Cecillia)



I was a student at an all girls school circa 1980 and most of the gym mistresses I had over the years did not even bother using a slipper since there were plenty of bare thighs avalaible. Although some gym teachers did used the slipper.

My experience was that 4 really hard slaps across each of the bare upper thighs was more effective than a six stroke slippering across the kinickers.

I experienced both. And contrary to many disbelievers this was very common at that time. This was obviously only done by female teachers. Any siggestion otherwise is sheer nonsense.

As for girls having their knickers lowered in private. Well to be honest I never heard of that ever happening at my school, but I suppose it could have happened at other schools. (Cecillia)



Mimi, could you please elaborate on the type of punishments apart from slippering that would warrant a girl having her skirt lifted in front of the class? Also are you sure that this happened in a mixed class? Surely a female teacher would have more sense than to do this. (Esmay)



A public smacking at the front was a very common occurence even at secondary school during this time in the UK.

The most effective method was of course leg smacking since it really sorted out the wheat from the chaff, but the ocassional smacked bottom was not out of the question. (Emma)

Those were the days!

I used to live in London in the early 70s when I used to visit most of the famous London museums and it's not the first time I saw schoolgirls getting slapped on their thighs for being rowdy,even by male teachers.
This was the heyday of the miniskirt,so girls' thighs were easy target.
There used to be several whole classes visitng these museums with their teachers,and some of the girls ran about and had to be kept in control.
The ones I saw getting slapped on their thighs were about 10/11 years old,so were probably late primary or early secondary pupils.
So I wouldn't be surprised if this went on at school too. There must be some form of discipline to keep all those students in check.

Thanks to the dilligence of the subscriptions chappie another time wasting poster is revealed to all. Thankfully they give themselves away.

To whom were you referring Mimi(what a fantasy name)!
I assure you that my account is true.
Unless you were referring to somebody else. Please specify.

OFGS I was refering to the subscription managers revelations.
No need to be paranoid but I know how you feel from past brickbats I have received

Sorry,Mimi,I sympathise with you,But honestly folks,how can anyone judge whether a posting is true or false. Admittedly some tales are way over the top,like the one who said that as a 15year old boy he was made to stand totally naked on stage during assembly in front of the whole school. And it was a mixed school too! He also says that the girls also took the front seats to have a good view. This is good for a laugh of course,but hardly credible. But still I'm against any posts being taken off. You'll never know what's true or not,they could have happened too!
To your critics I say that if it never happened in their school does not mean that it didn't happenanywhere else.
Which reminds me of another recent posting on this site from a boy from USA who said that at 17years old he was paddled completely naked by the female school principal in her office in front of 3 other female teachers.
I've heard a lot of similar stories from USA,and you start wondering if these could be true or not. But I think in some countries(probably not in England)these things do happen!

Its nothing to do with true or false, the reference was to the same person posting under different names with the intention to deceive.
Their posts may be true but they loose credibility.
Truth is definitley stranger than fictio.
Some of the things that happen are beyond reasonable comprehension.
I would think it perfectly acceptable that some female at some time was caned on the bare by a male teacher. There is no reason to think it impossible.

I used to moderate a similar forum to this some time ago and we once took an online poll to determine the demographics of our members. We found that 70% of our members were in fact females between 26 and 42.

This was very surprising as we thought most of our female members would have been slightly older than this. Our forum had stricter rules on postings since all the members had to be registered before they could log in. We were quite thorough in our background checks.

A person's sex being determined 'in fact' by means of a poll - i.e. you asked them in writing without ever seeing them what sex they were, they said male or female and their answers became facts?

Well done Lotta, reality check time

Indulging in my favourite activity of being pedantic , Angelena did say on online poll, Lotta. Happily this makes your observation even more pertinent. If they'd been asked in writing then handwritten responses, if any, might at least have given a clue as to the gender of the respondent to verify their answers. No chance of that with a check in a box on an online form!

When I eventually write my blockbuster Internet handbook 'How to Spot a Raving Fantasist on a CP Forum", I'm going to use Angelena's posting as a classic example of the sort of posting a raving fantasist makes.

The final sentence 'We were quite thorough in our background checks' had me holding my sides for fear they'd split with laughter.

T'is all worthwhile if it gets Lotta posting again.
The net is full of wind up merchants. They are easy tospot.

To all ye of little faith. Our subscriptions manager was very astute. It was easier to sneak sunrise past a rooster than to disguise your true gender from her. They did not call her Mrs. Sherlock Holmes for nothing.

It seems to me everytime there are postings by females on this site they are bombardrd with criticism by males,no matter what they say.
Actually this happens on every CP/Spanking site I've seen. I find this very strange,whether it is a factual or fantasy posting site. I find that whenever ther are females present in stories,be they fact or fiction,makes them more interesting and erotic.
Even the fact that there are more women than men whe see this site seems to annoy most male posters in this thread.
So I say Keep it up Girls,and don't be intimidated!
What's more I find that posts sent by women tend to be more truthful than those posted by males. Unless they are males writng under female names,pretending to be females,that is,of which there seem to be quite a few here. This happens on other sites of this type too.

You are quite right. When I was moderating a similar forum some years back I soon became aware of the genuine postings. I would say 90% of postings from females were genuine first hand accounts, while about 10% were merely anecdotal third party stories that were probably true, but would have occurred before these woman were actually born in most cases.

Any accounts about girls being punished in front of the class in a mixed school should be discounted as this was very doubtful. Classroom punishments in an all girls school was very common in the 1970s and 1980s and there is no reason to disbelieve these, unless they were very extreme claims. The only realistic classroom punishment in a girls school would have been thigh slapping or slippering. Any suggestions that these could be carried out by anybody other than a female teacher is nonsense.

As for prefects punishing prefects. This could only happen in a boarding school situation, since I assume the classroom teachers did not live in the dormitories and presumably the prefects were the only people available to impose discipline in most cases. Forget about girls punishing boys or vice versa, this simply could not happen. Any accounts of girl prefects punishing other girls would only be credible if the punishments were relatively moderate.

Many of our male contributors will have been educated at mixed schools and will know from years of personal experience that most girls were well-behaved in class if one or two did misbehave they were more often than not brought quickly back into line with nothing more than a glance or a word from the teacher.

If that is so, a certain amount of doubt is cast upon any claim that girls at any school were physically punished on a frequent (never mind a daily) basis.

So I am an absolute liar am I Angelina?
We can only tell what we saw and what we heard from others.
If its lies so what? nothing can be preoved or disproved. Of course on that basis all the posters on FR that tell of punishments in mixed classs are liars then?

Here here, Mimi! As we both know, the difference is that we were there whereas the younger posters on this forum were not!

Lotta is quite correct to say that girls were better behaved, or at least they were when I was at school, (though not necessarily so nowadays I am led to believe). Because of this girls were certainly subject to corporal punishment less than boys.

Angelena however is talking nonsense when she says:

"Any accounts about girls being punished in front of the class in a mixed school should be discounted as this was very doubtful"

Tell that to the girls at the mixed Infant and Junior schools I attended!

BTW folks, I fear that we have hijacked a thread intended for use by the forum managers to highlight any postings deemed to be fantasy postings either because of outrageous content, the same IP address and computer being used under different names (they can tell, you know), or other factors deemed indicative of a certain laxity regarding the truth. Perhaps we should continue any follow-up discussion elsewhere!

RE: Ex Londoner

I found your posting quite interesting. While I suppose it was quite a common punishment for girls to be slapped across the thighs, this was more likely to occur within the confines of an actual school and only by a female teacher.

To suggest that a female teacher would lift up the back of a girl's skirt in order to slap her thighs in a public place such as a museum is not very likely. To suggest a non-female teacher would risk this type of behaviour in public is even more doubtful.

I understand that you claimed to have observed these alleged incidents during your lunch break. Are we to assume that this was a liquid lunch break or perhaps you may have been partaking of some wacky tabacky at the time.

Although I can’t comment on older girls, as I went to an all boys secondary school. It was certainly quite common for girls to be punished in front of the class at the primary school I attended. The wooden ruler across the hand was the most common punished given. Followed by either the ruler or the hand across the legs, however this was always done on the calf’s and the only clothing disturbed where the girl’s socks, If she were wearing long ones. I also recall one teacher, who would roll up a girl’s sleeve to slap her arm. In all my time at the school, I never saw a girl punished on her bottom and only witnessed one girl get caned and in this case the one stroke she received on each hand, were so light, it didn’t really constitute a punishment.

It seems that the Oracle may have partaken of a wee sip of Schnapps before posting this story.

I never said that skirts were lifted up. You are implying this. In fact I said the contrary- that this was the miniskirt era and so skirts DIDN"T have to be lifted up for a slap on the thighs.
And what I described was the occasional slap on their thighs,not a ritualised slapping as may have been given in some schools,about which I will let others comment from their experience or otherwise.
So please read my posting again to be sure of what I said.

But were you having a liquid lunch at the time?

Don't know what you mean.
But please don't get carried away by your imagination!

Schnapps??? Never touch the stuff.

However, neither of you two folk have denied having a drag or two of the wacky tabacky.

No, don’t touch that either. What’s up with you guys? The events that I described are probably no different to what happened in 1000’s of primary schools in England during the 60’s.

Hello Asquith.
You mean to tell me you never seen,or even heard of,pupils getting the ruler on their hands? This was a regular occurance at my primary school,and ceased when I went to Secondary. So you must be very young,in which case I don't blame you.
But don't tell me you've never seen a young girl being slapped on her thighs,even by a man,in public? What,s so incredulous about it?
You must have had a very secluded life. Don't tell me you never saw someone being punished? Go on then,tell us about it.

I have seen a girl being slapped on the thighs at school by a female teacher.
I have never seen a girl being slapped by a male either at school or any other place. I believe even in the 1970s it was still not permissible for a male (other than a parent) to strike a girl, even in a school situation. But obviously according to you I could be wrong.

You couldn't be more wrong! What was "supposed"to happen and what "did" happen are different things. There were always exceptions to the rules.
I knew a young teacher back in the 70s who insisted on working in a mixed school so he could "get his hands on girls' thighs". Of course he did this without being very obvious. And as I said this was the miniskirt era,and many schoolgirls wore very short skirts. And I don't think this example is unique either. I will tell you more (true)stories,told to me by ex-schoolgirls themselves,about what went on in some classrooms.
I am surprised that other female posters on this site don't have similar experiences to tell.

How could this be done without being obvious? Are you talking about secondary schools?

I admit that most of my schooling was after the ban on cp and I never actually experienced any myself but I moderated a forum some time ago that had a lot of postings about school cp etc.

I never believed any of the postings myself but the subscriptions manager who was about 10 years older than me seemed to think most were true since she had similar experiences at some of the schools she attended.

However she made it quite clear to me on several occasions that she was only ever punished by a female teacher. According to her, any girl that misbehaved in a class that had a male teacher would be sent to some female teacher to be dealt with.

I am not suggesting that your posting is not true, but since I attended school when there was no cp it is hard to believe girls could be punished by non female teachers. Surely no girl woud stand for this.

In this age of energy conservation, may I suggest that the absurd term 'non-female teacher' be replaced by 'male teacher'?

LOTTA

Doubtless they were also conversing energy back then, as no girl would stand for such things.

They were all no doubt happily across Sir's knee instead & enjoying it immensly.

As always in the imagination in question!


Steve M

It amused me to read someone saying "no girl would stand for it"

This statement indicates that the poster has no conception of how children thought years ago!

I am, of course, talking of personal experiences of fifty years ago but I believe even in the 70's this business of "wouldn't stand for it" did not apply to anyone under the age of 15/16.

Children younger than that were conditioned to take whatever an adult decided to dish out. Only in cases where really excessive abuse took place did a parent go up to the school to complain. Litigation was unkown in most circles and, unlike in today's society, Joe Public had no redress at all against the thousands of abusers in schools and young offenders instiutions around the UK.

It has turned full circle now and teachers have their hands tied behind their backs. I wiould hate things to revert to the way they used to be but it is as bad now (in a different and opposite way) as it was then.

The abused now, are the teachers!

That's right Danny,but these people don't seem to realise the difference in mentality and circumstances between now and then.
You put it quite clearly.

I have oft recounted that in my experience physical punishment was carried out in a violent and uncontrolled way.
Especially in junior school when kids could be grabbed, man handled and beaten quite frighteningly.
In senior school it was more measured in its application.
A 30 year old pal of mine mentioned today that the youth of today could do with good doses of CP, as early as possible to establish the status quo.
In the past teachers were acting " in loco parentis" and just as a male or female parent would chastise as they saw fit then a teacher would do the same.
If parents wish the school to take responsibility then the school should be able to act in whatever reasonable way that they feel is appropriate at the time.
AS for "girls not putting up with it" they had no choice, one did what one was told, no negotiation no opinion, just accept it as quick as possible rather than let the situation get worse, ie a trip to the head for a whacking.

I stumbled across this forum recently and had to admit to having a little chuckle to myself. I attended a wide variety of schools in the UK during the 1970s and early 1980s, some mixed and some all girls.

I can honestly say that I never received any type of cp whatsoever during that time, although I witnessed nearly every form described in some of these postings. However I did come close on two occassions. If the good folk out there can spare me a minute I will recount same:

The first incident occurred in lower secondary when Miss called me to the front for talking. I was certain that I was going to be dealt with rather harshly but as soon as I got there she simply told me to get back to my seat.

The second and potentially more ramatic episode occured in form 6, when myself and two other girls encountered the senior mistress in the hall during a break. She was very friendly and outgoing and we chatted and joked for a few minutes. Suddenly her mood changed and she inquired why all us girls were wearing makeup which was strictly against the rules. She then told all three girls to wait outside her office.

When she arrived some minutes later we were ushered into her office. She quikly produced a thick leather strap and instructed one of the girls to put both her hands out together in front of her. Shen then gave her 4 of the best across both hands. She took them quite well and was told to go. The second girl could only take 2 and then kept taking her hands away. The senior mistress was getting fed up with this and told both of us that she would deal with us later and sent us away. But she never followed it, up and I was never punished.

Goes on to show that anything could happen in those hazardous schooldays!

A headmistress who needs 'a few minutes' to notice that a girl standing right before her eyes is wearing make-up? Not very plausible, I have to say.

Also, let's be sensible - if wearing make-up was a strapping/caning offence at her school, it would take a most unusual girl to wear any while at school.

Rather like walking around with 'Please hit me hard ' written on one's forehead?

Lotta quite plausable that girls would stretch the limits on make up.
A bit implausable that the punishments would differ, ie 4,2 0. However female teachers sometimes being silly old bats could behave eraticly. And what with alzheimers etc they could forget what they were doing when more pressing matters like say tea break came up.
I think Cassy may be telling the truth.

Mimi,

Girls, boys, women, men and even the beasts of the field will stretch the limits of most rules if they've a mind to but in the above case there was no limit to stretch. According to the story, wearing make-up was prohibited. Full stop.

I doubt there's a female schoolteacher in the civilised world who can't instantly spot a made-up face if it's inches in front of her own.

A girl or woman will do anything to look attractive, even risk a caning.

I agree with Coolee and also a well made-up face isn't easy to spot (it should never be spotted - but if we're talking about schoolgirls here, it's very doubtful that it would apply in this case).

Of course, our Lotta wouldn't believe a story if it came up and smacked her in the face!

There's nobody easier to lie to than somebody who wants to believe you.

Carry on, Cassandra.

Lotta, I would hate to be on trial if you were on the jury!

Whatever hapenened to 'Innocent until proved guilty'?

Why argue with the local sociopath, who, by the way, is clearly male, and went to prep and single-sex public school.

Obsessive sociopaths like 'lotta' take the wikipedia approach in collecting their tales of CP. If it wasn't reported in the mainstream press, it never happened! The same behaviour is witnessed in the worst train-spotters, who have to see the engine in person each time.

Sadly, 'lotta' quickly attracts the support of other sociopathic types, making for a very unfriendly environment. For most of you, this is very counter-productive, for the price of chasing away the obvious fantasists is discouraging the vast amount of lurkers that have real info to share as well. The difference between real and fantasy will always be pretty obvious sooner or later, and never needs anyone to point this out. If you care to notice, you will. If you care to believe, that's you business, and no-one elses (remember, the sociopath ALWAYS thinks that they have a duty to speak for everyone else).

Do you really want to know what happened in those British schools in the past that used CP? Easy-peasy. Go read about today's CP in South Korea, and much of the USA (at a secondary level, I mean).

A very recent case had an 18-year old girl physically dragged into the principal's office, and held down by other teachers while she was beaten on her bottom. Her crime, she had left school before the first class in the morning to get some breakfast (though it was a 'day school'). American parents send their daughters to charter schools like this precisely because they can be spanked.

Late teen girls are beaten on their bottoms (and no-where else) in the USA for make-up, clothes, talking, lateness, and every other kind of minor offence.

Just like the UK in the past, those parts of the USA that spank, spank under every circumstance, and those that are against it even attempt to send parents to prison for minor acts of CP.

SPANKING IS ALWAYS A CULTURAL ISSUE. The courts and schools and local government will reflect the local culture to an extreme. In the past, where CP at secondary school was common in the UK, it was just something to be endured, and not fit for conversation.

Guess what guys, that means that most of us here probably went to school in more civilised parts of the UK, and our curiosity and interests link to the fact that the CP we came across was mostly rare, and hence of great curiosity because of that.

Now, when guys talk of partners from parts of the world where CP was universal, their partners usually have no interest in CP play. Why? Because for them CP was not 'mysterious' but a trauma that could only be escaped through growing older. If you were raised in a land of continuous famine, you'd probably have zero interest in the concept of 'dieting'. This isn't rocket-science.

So, ex-public-school boys with a 'straight' interest in CP are going to obsess about schoolgirl punishments, but at the same time naively believe them to be rare or non-existent. Do you REALLY think an ex-public school boy has anything useful to say about factual CP of girls in state schools in the UK? As I said, the full extent of their opinion is that it was reported in a mainstream newspaper, or it didn't happen.

ink-lined plane, I'm pleased to see that you are posting in the Fantasy Postings thread, because that is exactly where your posting above belongs!

You couldn't have put it better I.L.P.
It's people like this lurker above who put people off this site.
It's one thing to criticise and quite another to be arrogant.
These people won't believe anything you told them.
Maybe they'd believe you if someone said that they were sent to the headmaster's office for a cup of tea.

I'm afraid Lotta is dead right.

NO schoolmistress is going to miss illicitly-applied make up. Many of them dedicated their entire lives to detecting its' use.

Sad cows!

I'm afraid there are and always have been people of both sexes whose only purpose in life is to know the rule book inside out and then use it to ruin your fun.

Quite why someone like ME is working for the CSA, then, might astonish you, as ruining people's lives is our watchword. But sometimes you have to infiltrate.................!!

Steve M

Observer, as someone who can't even differentiate between his/her own multiple personalities^{Note 1} you are perhaps not best qualified to pronounce on the personality of others.

Note 1:  See Observer's recent posting in the Forum Rules thread here where he/she says that he/she was "recently referred to Rule 28b". There have only been two recent referrals to specific forum rules, both as it happens to rule 23b not rule 28b, but Observer has already indicated elsewhere that he/she doesn't read too well. Neither of these referrals was addressed to Observer. They were respectively to Sally, Emma, Evelyn et al (by Subscriptions Manager) and Eric (by me). Observer is therefore unable to remember if he is currently Eric, or Sally, Emma, Evelyn, or possibly all of them and others besides.

Steve M "I'm afraid there are and always have been people of both sexes whose only purpose in life is to know the rule book inside out and then use it to ruin your fun."

You are a master of understatement. Anyone who experienced school CP knows it did a lot more than ruin your fun. It ruined your day and maybe your week.

Lotta is right that any teacher, Head, etc. who was notorious for using CP would never overlook an opportunity to enjoy themselves at your expense.

Dear An.Lurker,you are a bad judge of personalities. I am none of the personalities you mentioned except possibly one. But I will leave you guessing which one it is.
But let us stop accusing each other and start to contribute something useful to this forum. Something which I always try to do.
Meanwhile I will leave all those who have doubts with this saying-
A person can write under a 100 different names and still be valid everytime.
While another person can use the same name everytime and be invalid all the time.
by Guess Who

Bob and Steve

While you are both right that there were many head teachers who had that attitude it doesn't follow that every one of them were like that or, if they were, they could spot make-up at 20 paces!
My beef with Lotta is although we all know she is probably right, that does not excuse her for branding the poster a liar without knowing all the facts.
To say it didn't happen without providing proof that it didn't is exactly the same as saying something did happen without providing proof that it did!

In other words the accused is proved innocent until he is proved that he is guilty.

DANNY

I have visions of Lotta as a modern-day Judge Roy Bean. Judge, jury n' executioner!!

Without the beard & probably swigging something more ladylike straight from the bottle than the bourbon, of course!


Steve M

I agree, Steve!

And ending every post with "And God have mercy on your soul!"

These events did actually happen. They took place in the mid 1980s in a very exclusive private girls school in the UK. There are too many doubting Thomases and Thomasinas who are putting their two pence worth in when not asked. Please desist.

Sally and kelly posted 2 minutes apart, wonder what the IP addys are like, yawn........

I also noticed that Lotta and Mimi had postings only 8 minutes apart. Very sus.

Mimi and Lotta the same person! Well LESBOS, you've certainly posted that one in the right thread!

Ha Ha........
But I don't pretend to be different people do moi?

The jury is still out on that one.

Angelina

get real

October 5 2008, 1:37 AM

 

I am afraid most of the contributors are not paying attention. I simply stated that I had no personal experience of cp at school nor did any of my female friends, most of whom are around the same age as me, late twenties. I never said it did not happen at some time in the past. However if cp was used as frequently on girls as some contributors suggest, why have there been so few postings with credible accounts of same from actual females that would have been the right age to have experienced this? Apart from some accounts of mild cases of smacking I have not come across any.

 

Angelina

get real girls were etc.

October 5 2008, 3:35 AM

 

You do have some valid points. But consider this. When I was working at a similar forum some years ago, the moderator, a brilliant woman some years older than me, developed an algorithm that she claimed could determine the age and gender of the author of the posting. She explained to me that it was based on the structure, phrasing and expression used in the stories. I do not claim to have any expertise in these matters but apparently her judgment was 90% accurate. This was confirmed later. She then explained that only about 90% of the postings claiming to be from women were accurate as regards to gender, but of these only about 70% would have been from women who would have been the right age for these accounts to be believable. You do the math. Regards Angelina

 

Kathy

Re: get real girls were never spanked.

October 6 2008, 10:54 PM

 

If you forgot your kit and had a good excuse she only told you off. If you forgot it the next lesson then you would get your legs slapped. Although our gym mistress was very strict she did not smack you for nothing only if you were playing up or being silly. During the actual gym classes which were mostly outside on the oval if you played up she called you over and sometimes just told you off. If you were really naughty you had to bend over and she usually gave 4 hard smacks across the bottom followed up by another 4 across the top/back of each leg, these left visible hand prints which lasted all day. She only slippered privately in her office

 

 

 

Evelyn

Re: get real girls were never spanked

October 8 2008, 12:16 AM

 

I think the reason why a lot of p.e. teachers were so popular was because most girls liked to play sport since it got them out of the classroom and allowed them to be free for a few hours every week. I remember one term in my senior year that we had a new p.e. student teacher who was not that much older than most of the girls. She was too timid to smack any of the girls and consequently we ran riot. However the next term we got our former games mistress back and she soon sorted us out.

 

 

Sally

get real girls were never spanked

October 8 2008, 1:32 AM

 

The games mistress I had in my senior years was also a world class swimmer who won at least 3 national titles as a junior and was part of a British commonwealth games swim relay team. I cannot remember if that team won any gold medals. She was also very popular with all the girls but not really very strict at all.Most of my classmates were reasonably well behaved. There was no real need for very severe discipline. She sometimes did smack the girls if they went too far but not to the extent described by the other contributors. Most of the smacking was done in a somewhat light hearted manner usually accompanied by a joke or two. This was in sharp contrast to most of the other female teachers at the school who were very severe on you if you played up in class.

 

 

Judging from the appalling treatment the post of Halfpenny received on this site, I would have concerns that any moderator would be capable of discerning truth from fiction.

Halfpenny's account is entirely believeable to me because it fits the pattern of a Christian school - one of a number of denominationally based schools for whom CP was a necessary part of a proper upbringing. The note to the parents, the requirement for the parents to back up the school's punishment, the requirement fo the parents to agree to CP when enrolling the child, the careful way the matter was analysed with the offenders, indeed the whole flow of the events points to that.

There is no way Halfpenny could have cooked up that sequence unless she at least attended such a school. It is highly likely she has no experience of any other school system and therefore simply recounted what was the norm to her. Indeed, the lack of comprehension by those outside this system probably came as a surprise to her, at least initially.

Let me say I have personal knowledge of this type of school, there being two of them within easy distance of my home and many of my friends kids or friends of my kids attended them. In both of these CP was very much on the agenda in 1995 and still is to a lesser degree today.

What's more - again contrary to the over-confident statements of these destructive know-it-alls - since the introduction of the EEO Acts schools are REQUIRED to treat both boys and girls equally in all things - including discipline. Independent schools that retained CP MUST have a system of applying it equally to both genders.

In the case of one school I know, they have a demerit points system which works more fairly than the arbitrariness in my day. If a certain number of demerits is acquired within a set period, CP ensues for either a boy or a girl. Other schools no doubt have other ways of handling the equity issue, but handle it they must.

Let me deal with one more criticism of Halfpenny's post - that a man would never be allowed to cane a girl. Since EEO it is ILLEGAL to discriminate by allocating tasks to genders. Schools are not fools in this matter and have ways of ensuring that nothing untoward occurs, but they cannot bar a man or a woman from carrying out the task of physical discipline if such is part of the normal duties of the position.

All of my facts are easily checkable, should the disbelievers wish to trouble themselves, but it is, of course, easier just to flame someone, isn't it?

Could I suggest that people cease making it their mission to demolish the contributions of others AND at least express a modicum of humility and uncertainty when challenging a post. This may encourage the writer to reply.

I notice Halfpenny didn't respond. Don't take that as an admission of guilt. Its my guess she's just decided to bugger off and leave us all to our stupidity. If that's the case a valuable member has been lost to this forum.

ryan1,

Would you please let us know which people are "making it their mission to demolish the contributions of others" and I will put a red ring around their names.

I wonder if I might toss in my halfpennyworth? (Sorry!)

There were a couple of things which struck me about Halfpenny's story. First, that it was well written; and secondly, that it was full of little details, as you would indeed find in a story.

Having made that statement, I'd now like to comment upon it. When I look back to my schooldays, even to the one particular event which got me interested in this topic in the first place, the images certainly aren't as detailed as all that. OK, I'm going back half a century, but even the passing of a few years dulls the recollection. So a story as detailed as Halfpenny's cannot, realistically, be taken as a literal description of events going back that far in time.

But - please note - this comment says nothing at all about whether the underlying story is true. Furthermore, it is perfectly respectable to take the structure of a story from real life, and add details (which may or may not correspond to reality) in order to make an entertaining tale. After all, this happens all the time on television ("faction", anyone?).

So my view is that Halfpenny has written a very readable and enjoyable post, and that this may well be based on fact, although I'm not certain that she has provided enough evidence to allow a disinterested reader to come to a definitive conclusion.

RYAN

Halfpenny's post did seem quite plausible.

I can, however, assure you that offline correspondence involving another member of our forum revealed glaring inconsistencies. Our other forum member being in a more Antipodean position than I is what led me to doubt their veracity. I ought to turn that last bit into English-the other forum member has lived in Oz, and I haven't, rather than they having practised a certain sexual technique a lot more than I!

Armed with that, I actually trawled the net and found about 45-55% of the detail therein was plagirsed from elsewhere, even though the original sources were a mix of non-Antipodean "realities". I'm sorry to have to tell you that 99% of claimed CP to girls alleged in these pages is FANTASY.

That may surprise you, given what I've discovered about Comrade Ing in the other recent post. But, a little notion of mine that over 3 years posting here has reinforced is that most women, whatever their country of birth or education, found CP painful, often humiliating and don't tend to bang on about it at length on the net.

It's one of those little differences between men & women that none of us can understand, but it just seems to be that way! I'll at least say that Halpenny from Comrade X's research IS female, unlike most of the fantasy girlies that invade us periodically.


Steve M

Look even the most sinful here were probably caned no more than three or four times and this forums been going on since I was in short trousers so what are we all going to talk about after we have talked about the three or four canings we got from some senile old codger with rampant halitosis who certainly enjoyed it more than you or I did. Fantasy is good for you and it brightens up this forum

Steve, thanks for you comments. I find myself in a situation where you claim to have special knowledge that I don't have and the veracity of which I cannot therefore question. This much I do know:

. the story fits the Christian schools scenario to a tee and it seems highly likely Halfpenny attended such a school

. contrary to popular belief here, mixed Christian schools did and in many cases still do use CP and they are required to apply it equally to both genders - so Halfpenny was at least elligible to be caned

. the story is by no means excessive as fantasies usually are. We don't find the entire class been whipped to a pulp before morning tea and then again after lunch for good measure. The whole flow of events she presents is the kind of thing I've heard recounted by students of these schools many times - barring perhaps the matter of the "periods" and I'm sure that wouldn't have been mentioned in my presence anyway

. yes, the story has much detail - more than usually found in fantasises I might add - and Halfpenny prefaced her contribution by saying she could not in fact remember everything that was said and had therefore improvised.

. I have seen over the years more than one piece of documentation presented by Halfpenny and they fit the model of these types of school precisely. I heard she was upset when someone attempted to track down her school - and is there any wonder? Would we like to be tracked down in our private world by someone from the spanking fetish scene?

. If said "reseracher" did locate any one of these schools, I dont believe they would have discussed discipline with him, much less an actual case. Furthermore, it would be a fair assumption that, Australian or not, he would have possessed little knowledge of this type of school, and their strongly held beliefs and culture.

. The plagiarism charge is interesting, but bear in mind that schools like this exist in the US and other places and have similar cultures. There is the potential to find similar material on the net. It would only be plagirarism if the words, and not just the ideas, were copied.

. Finally, let me say that a whole bevy of young women that I or my family has known could be found who were caned, paddled, or whatever the school did in the ninties. Why should not one of them be Halfpenny? You say women don't recount their CP experiences, but that's because a) few had any and b)they are not spankophiles. Halfpenny lays claim to both.

As for not banging on on the internet, I've been on US sites for years run by women and frequented by women and hear nothing but "banging on" on sites such as Fetlife (Spanking groups sections). Furthermore, Halfpenny's generation has an entirely different and less inhibited outlook on kink to the wartime and boomer generations. I anticipate we may live long enough to see it emerge from the shadows.

At the end of the day, we were not there and we therefore can't be certain but the presentation of documentation goes well beyond the titillation attempts of your usual fantasist and would make madam into a forger aswell.

Fact is, Steve, et al none of us can prove we are not having a lend of each other. So what do we do - stop posting on this subject?

Ryan, thank you for taking the time to defend me. Most of what you are saying is accurately describing the type of conditions that applied in my school and you're right that a lot of people don't seem to understand what some schools are like.

Alan, you're quite correct that there are a lot more details in my stories than I could reasonably remember given that I was writing them down years after they'd happened. But I've never concealed the fact that details like the precise things people said, etc, are embellished. It's there in the story: "This story is probably somewhat embellished - I certainly can't remember exactly what was said at all stages, and so conversations are just similar to what was said. I do have a photocopy of the letter sent home to my parents and so that prompted a few memories of the discussions I had with my mother that would have otherwise been lost, so I think there's a good chance there are other things I have forgotten as well. I tried writing this totally as a list of the facts and it turned out very dull for me to write and I guess probably dull to read so while this isn't perfectly true, I think it's close enough and interesting enough to actually be interesting."
The underlying story is true but I'm a professional writer and I don't like writing something that's boring so I tried to recreate the bits I couldn't remember perfectly. I didn't intend to deceive. The basic facts are accurate.

Now for Steve.

Let me try and get this straight. You're calling me a liar because some unnamed correspondent living in Australia seems to have convinced you that what I've said isn't true. Do I have that right?

Well, I'm an Australian too and I say I'm telling the truth so why does your Australian trump this Australian? If it's my word against theirs, why are they more believeable than I am. Especially seeing I'm willing to stand up and defend myself publically while they seem to be lurking somewhere in the background.

You say there are 'glaring inconsistencies.' All right then. Tell everybody what they are. I'm prefectly prepared to be proven a liar if you think I'm a liar. If there's something you know that can't be true about what I've said, then post it here publically. I'm confident that there isn't, because I know I'm telling the truth unless you are going to pick on some of the tiny background details I've already said I made up above and when I originally posted as well. Actually I think most of those would be fine too given that they are still based on my life and my school and I remember that pretty well.

I'd like the chance to defend myself against accusations of dishonesty.

Also, if you want to accuse me of plagiarism from the net, then how about you post links to the material I supposedly plagiarised. I've plagiarised nothing. I suppose it is possible somebody might have had reasonably similar experiences, but I'd be surprised if they're close enough to look like plagiarism.

Again, I'd like the chance to defend myself against accusations of dishonesty.

I'm sure most women found corporal punishment painful and humiliating. I found it painful and humiliating. But I'm a spanko and I get off on pain and humiliation, well, some pain and a little bit of humiliation. I'm not into the really heavy stuff. I found both my canings painful and the second one was pretty humilating as well. But I like the memories of those feelings. Some of us do. It doesn't seem to be that many of us, but I don't care if I'm one in a hundred or one in a million. I am what I am.

I'm still not willing to name my school, mainly because I don't feel like I should be forced into that to prove I'm telling the truth. What I am prepared to do is drop a large hint that most people from Melbourne should be able to decipher pretty quickly. IK'm going to ask those people to check it out, find out where I went to school, and then, please, keep it to themselves and not stick the answer on here. I can't stop you but I'd like for some people to be able to make a better judgement without causing me or mine too much risk of embarassment.

Here's the clue.

58 D8. Melburnians will find the Way.

Halfpenny, I feel some responsibility for this having blown up again as it was at my instigation that you last posted your accounts on this estimable Forum, in the now closed first section of the recently referenced 'get real girls were never spanked' thread. I suspect that is where ryan1 came across your connection to this forum, unless he hasn't, as he said on 2 January this year, 'just joined the site'. At least, I assume that was ryan1, the nom de plume is different but the email address is the same. If indeed this is why old battles are being re-fought here please accept my apologies.

I think there is a very large problem as regards friendly discussion on this forum in the huge differences between the recent (and in some cases still current) disciplinary regimes in some Australian private schools and the disciplinary regimes which have existed in most UK state schools for many many years, in all UK state schools since 1986, and in all UK schools, state and private, since early 1998. I feel that both yourself and Doctor Dominum have suffered some disbelief because of this, though obviously his case differs substantially from yours.

In your case my observation, at least insofar as contributors to this forum are concerned, is that in the UK you probably need to be over age 60 to readily accept that girls were once subject to school corporal punishment, including caning, with some regularity. Not nearly as often as boys, but not infrequently either. Many, if not most, people younger than 60 in the UK will believe, with Steve M and the sadly missed Lotta Nonsense, 'that 99% of claimed CP to girls alleged in these pages is FANTASY'. Lotta would probably have said 99·99%. Indeed, I think she did, and I seem to recall offering her some details to disprove her claim, to which she sadly never responded!

I happen to greatly respect both Steve M and Lotta Nonsense. I disagree with them on the above point, but I understand why they hold the views they do, as they are both somewhat younger than me. In the ongoing disputes in this thread and in the 'Girl caned at Bacons by the infamous Mr Ing' thread I can only express the hope that there will be a sudden outbreak of peace!

Well done, Halfpenny, I admire your fortitude in persisting against this negativity. I have to say that since you first posted on our Perth site years ago I had no reason to doubt the validity of your accounts - there is just too much good internal evidence, not to mention documentation.

I regret that you should be exposed to this when we long term spankos could only dream about a scenario such yours occurring in our lifetimes. Frankly, your two accounts are far and away most absorbing I've read or heard and for fellow spankos to try to tarnish their veracity is a travesty.

I don't think you should have to reveal identities of any sort, including your school. But that is your choice.

And finally to pick up a point - men found CP painful and humiliating too and, as you've pointed out, that's an important part of the strange alchemy that makes us what we are - probably by genetic disposition.

Unfortunately, there's another sort of alchemy that makes some old guys, spankos or not, into incurable cynics. My advice is to give them the Aussie salute and carry on regardless.

The females who told me about their school canings and punishments did not have any reason to tell porkies.
My conclusion has been that most females got some form of CP in U K schools at some time or other.
Certainly to my experience I do not recal anyone male or female NOT getting CP in any of my schools.
Of course I could be lying, but why would I lie?

RYAN

I was BORN cynical, mate. That way you are rarely disappointed and more often happy when other people treat you with the respect and kindness you always show them.


HALFPENNY

I've not only changed computers since that research, I've also had 2 crashes to restore. I also wouldn't keep info regarding another person on my PC on privacy grounds.

I would not have ever tried to ascertain your school and would also never have published detailed investigations on here. I don't enjoy or encourage dissing people, unless what they spout is complete horse manure-you'll see there are a couple of such examples in this thread-and if they insult my credibility with such garbage, then I will go for the jugular. Your post did NOT remotely come into that category.

There are one or two people on here who I ignore, simply because I don't like their attitude. I still try not to diss them or their threads, because we are all different.

Let's just say, as per Shakespeare, "There is more in Heaven and In Hell,than is dreamt in our philosophy, Horatio".


Steve M

Another_Lurker,

Don't blame yourself. I knew this could happen, and probably would, when I decided to post my stories here. And I can understand scepticism and people challenging the truth of what I've written. But some people seem to go further than that. In many ways it is amusing because I know what I'm saying is true and I also know that there are at least a dozen sources online that confirm corporal punishment was used at my school during the 1990s. There were newspaper stories published while I was there that dwelled on the fact the school used the cane. It wasn't the only school that did, but for some reason, it was one of the only ones that was prepared to admit it to newspapers. None of that would prove I was there, of course, but the fact that the cane was in use was no big secret.

It wasn't used in many schools by then and most of the ones it was used in were all boys schools so there wouldn't have been many girls at all being caned. But there were some and I was one of them.

Steve,

Fair enough. You don't have the material that lead you to believe I was lying so you can't really post it. That's a shame. I was looking forward to being all indignant in my own defence, but it can't be helped.

I thought this thread about FANTASY POSTING was the best place to put this posting. Here is a fantasy, paddling a little cute, beautiful, white, blonde curly hair girl and being by a Black Principal doing the paddling. Ive never LMAO more. The hitting stops here; the laughing starts here. Start the first video at about 4 minutes and watch it for about 30 seconds and start the second one at about 6 minutes and watch it for about 30 seconds. I think the guy in the second video watches too much porn. Do you agree? I do believe Paula is misguided but sincere and is more to be pitied than to be censured. Do you agree? The teachers from TWP were invited to the Paula Flowe show but declined to preserve their anonymity. Their debate follows in a previous posting. However you come down on the issue who sounds the most rational to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT0tXiOwGUw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE1O03u81G0foot 4

http://teacherswhopaddle.wordpress.com/2009/04/page/2/

Hi American Way. I'm afraid it's me moaning about links again! I'm getting:

The URL contained a malformed video ID

from YouTube when I attempt to access your second video above, both without and with the trailing '4'. Could you repost the link please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE1O03u81G0

Sorry about that.

Thanks American Way. I truncated it letter by letter down to .....v=XE1O03u81G0f but then I gave up. Just one more letter and I'd have been there!

I hope it was worth the effort

Hi American Way. On this occasion probably not. With all the respect due to her as an Honorary Life Member of this estimable Forum I do find Ms Flowe rather hard going. I see what you mean about the gentleman involved though!