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December 6 2008 at 8:59 AM
nigelR10 

 
Why was it that when Corporal Punishment was allowed in UK Schools it was administered on the backside with the offender either touching his toes or over a back of a chair.Unless of course it was across the hand. In South Easy Asia it appears that the person who was to be caned stood up with his hands across hos chest while his or her behind felt the cane

 
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Nancy

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December 6 2008, 9:01 AM 

We are still trying to find somebody who cares!

 
 
Esmerelda

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December 6 2008, 9:11 AM 

Is it just me, or is that the most boring topic ever put forward for discussion since the Earth cooled.

 
 
Steve M

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December 6 2008, 9:46 AM 

NIGEL

Ignore the pretend females.

The answer is that CP in British schools goes back over 200 years, at which point floggings in the Army & Navy still existed, which were also applied to the buttocks and back alternatively.

Johnny Foreigner inherited our tradition at the start, but has found that a non-stretched buttock neither hurts as much, nor is as easily bruised as per our method. Apparently, this Asian method was used in some girls schools in the 1920's and 30's, the victim stood facing the blackboard, but with hands clasped behind the back of the head.



Steve M

 
 
winston

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December 6 2008, 6:48 PM 

S'pore school caning is still the same as the British style,hands on the chair,only Thailand,caning is done with hands on the chest.

 
 
Falling Star

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December 6 2008, 8:11 PM 

The reference to 'South Easy Asia' confuses me somewhat. Has Sir Stelios bought part of that esteemed corner of the world, or does our poster not read (and correct) his posts before he posts them?

 
 
Miss Cornish

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December 6 2008, 8:19 PM 

Luckily the boredom meter has a logarithmic scale otherwise it would not be able to cope with this topic.

 
 
Soooze

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December 6 2008, 9:39 PM 

Might be out Malay way they dont wanna excite the girls too much?

Think 'bout it-might not just be teech enjoys a nice tight bum an bending over's gotta be tighter than standin' up!

Sorry, never did physics o level-might be important to this;didn't discuss it in maths, either, but from what I can think of now, the angles n trig might be same whichever way-unless teech alters position?

Anyone else do it standin' up? Cant think of anywhere else I ever heard about that does, so this anythin to do with when we had the Empire?


Soooze

 
 
Steve M

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December 6 2008, 10:56 PM 

Might it not be a good idea for some of you that find this a boring topic to do a logical thing?

Don't bloody post about it if it doesn't interest you. You don't have to pay to be on this forum, so just switch off and stop annoying serious posters -the rubbish you choose to post elsewhere is bad enough, but if you have no interest in a particular thread, just ignore it, for all our sakes.


Steve M


    
This message has been edited by larry1951 on Dec 7, 2008 5:28 AM


 
 
Another_Lurker

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December 7 2008, 1:03 AM 

Well said Steve. Unfortunately a small but significant proportion of young people have no manners or consideration for others, and our female fun posters, although merely the figment of someone's fevered imagination, seem to have this unfortunate characteristic. Just like our old friend Eric, they imagine they speak for everyone and that their opinion must be the only valid one. Eric however, nuisance and CFNM enthusiast that he was, did have two valuable attributes which our 'female' fun posters lack:
  • He sometimes posted on topic,
and
  • he cleared off eventually and took his rubbish with him!
And now back on topic. I have no specialist knowledge of the question posed by nigelR10 in the foundation post of this thread, but I'll make a rather tentative guess.

In South East Asia many of the cultures are very big on what for want of a better word I'll call 'face' and the loss thereof in public. In some it is considered a disaster of huge magnitude for anyone so unfortunate as to undergo this.

In western countries the bending over often enforced as part of corporal punishment applied to the buttocks has an element of humiliation, or loss of face for the victim, especially in a 'public' environment such as a classroom. This loss of face is seen as a subsidiary part of the punishment, loss of face not being, in general, a huge problem for a western person. In a culture where loss of face is a disaster far beyond the pain of being beaten it may well be considered that to impose this on the victim as well as the beating would make the punishment totally disproportionate.

A possible alternative explanation may be social conventions about offending others. Parts of the anatomy often feature in these in all cultures, displaying the soles of the feet in Thailand for instance. In a western country, whilst displaying the buttocks is extremely offensive in some contexts, no-one is going to get too offended about seeing another person's clothed bottom as they bend down to, say, tie a shoelace, and this would probably also be the case if the sighting occured during corporal punishment. It may be that in some South East Asian countries the presentation of the bottom in a bending posture would be such an insult, both to the person carrying out the punishment and to any observers, that social convention simply prohibits anyone being required to do it.

 
 
Amelia

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December 7 2008, 3:44 AM 

I do not think that punishing a person standing up in preference to asking them to bend over has anything to do with culture. It is usually an on the spot decision taken by the individual teacher in question. Some teachers at my school punished girls standing up, some asked them to bend over. Anybody who wants to read more into it than that is clutching at straws.

 
 
winston

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December 7 2008, 4:47 AM 

No,you all got it wrong,bending over the chair & spread open their legs,will make the offender stable on this position,also it will 'push' out the buttocks,so that it is safer,won't hit the spine,caning in S'pore schools is given full force,means the discipine master will hold the end of the cane,turn their body & hit the target at full force.

 
 
Amelia

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December 7 2008, 5:14 AM 

We never were caned at school. Only the open hand or slipper was used.

 
 
Another_Lurker

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December 7 2008, 8:58 PM 

Hmm, I trust you've noted the word we can't use Steve! happy.gif With all due respect to the Senior Management Team of this estimable Forum I have to say that it is certainly a word I would have considered appropriate in the context you used it, the substitution doesn't carry quite the same connotations!

I almost used the same term in my subsequent post when commenting on Eric's departure. However, Eric certainly wasn't such a pest as the current crop of mindless 'fun' posters, so I fortunately selected the milder alternative!

 
 
Heidi

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December 8 2008, 7:00 AM 

I agree with Amelia. It depended on the teacher.

 
 
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