Jane Maxwell was the name of the lucky actress who's clearly enjoying every moment of her big break & Elvis delivers 14 spanks on screen. Wonder if he delivered a PROPER Good ole-fashioned spankin' after the day's shooting!
February 24 2009, 9:58 PM
As Steve has given us a guitar player doing some spanking I had hoped to respond with a spanking Headmaster doing some guitar playing.
Sadly I don't think the Alan Witham who diligent users of Google Images will discover doing just that on Flickr1 is the same Mr Alan Witham currently featuring in the 'St. John's & St. Clement's School' thread here!
Note 1: I haven't linked the image in question least the owner of the Flickr account take exception to a mass of hits from this estimable Forum.
February 25 2009, 11:57 AM
St John's and St Clements School in South London was not the proper thread for this post. This is taken from that post and somewhat modified.
Re: St. John's & St. Clement's School February 25 2009, 2:35 AM
We're getting a bit off topic here. Maybe this should be under the Moonlightin' thread. But now that is has started I'm following through. The first link is the photo that made it in time for publication in their local paper and the second is a direct link to the clip in English and the third is a bare bottom reference from a comment from the fourth posters, Robert J Maxwells, movie review. Im not sure if it was bare bottom but Im virtually certain she wasnt fully clothed. He did begin to lift the dress and that can be seen in both the video and the picture and the twelve of the best didnt sound muffled to me. The expression on the onlookers faces made it seem like it wasnt a spanking with her fully clothed. I think if there was nudity or partial nudity involved, Morel wouldn't want someone older than himself and less likely to raise eyebrows to spank Madame Orsini. A grown woman shouldn't be making such a fuss so protected over a spanking. I don't know what was more shameful!
I should have started with this entry with a photo link that wasn't on the tan her hide site. Caveat, I hope this doesn't open the flood gates to references to adult sites unworthy of this esteem Forum.
Trevor Howard, played a part of an anti-elephant hunting zealot (Morel) in French Equatorial Africa in a 1958 movie, Roots of Heaven. He reads off a sentence to spank a snobby boastful and very tall white huntress, Jacqueline Fogt (Madame Orsini). She gets thoroughly spanked on her bare bottom for having killed so many elephants. Although the spanking is mostly off screen, the purpose of the punishment was to humiliate her and to publish a picture of her spanking in the local paper. Trevor Howard said that in order to avoid misunderstanding he would call upon the oldest among them to administer the sentence, none other than veteran actor Friederic von Ledebur had the honors. He was thorough and she was just bragging about her expertise as a big game huntress. She got her comeuppance. She was screaming like a banshee and looking for an intervention but to no avail because they were armed with rifles. The two men with Juliette Greco are seen in this long link. John Huston was the director and a few years later he directed Donovan's Reef, a film that also featured a spanking. He used both scenes to put a little humor into his films.
Here we are at London Transport's Trolleybus maintenance depot in 1947. Well, at its' staff canteen.
A rare opportunity to see the Rodent Control Chief Exec moonlighting as Catering Supervisor and not inflicting extreme CP on rodents. And he's put a smile on for the camera, too!
Where was 'Elf & Safety in 1947??
February 26 2009, 2:09 AM
What a splendid photograph Steve! I love the way the ladies at the table and the cat are all staring intently at the photographer, but you can just sense that the cat is the only one who'd like to eat him! Inside every domestic cat there's a tiger trying to get out - but then I guess you already know that!
February 26 2009, 8:09 AM
Blimey! I remember the 660 trolleybus, used to run from North Finchley to Hammersmith. But if one broke down, you had to wait for ages until a man came along with a pole to take the current-collecting trolley off the wires, so that the others behind could pass.
And it was a man, too: not sure what all those women are doing maintaining trolleybuses in 1947. Or maybe they're the canteen ladies?
February 26 2009, 10:57 AM
According to the book's text, the Trolleybus maintenance staff were nearly all women & that's some of them in the canteen.
The canteen staff were all women too & that is remarked on as more unusual than the maintenance staff.
From my other transport books (hundreds!) a quick scoot round last night suggests trolleys were fairly low maintenance and the engines weren't over-complicated, either, so it may be skilled mechanics weren't as essential in maintaining them as with Routemaster buses etc.
As long as the women weren't required to reverse them in confined spaces, we may have been OK-and there weren't too many supermarkets then, either!
I can only remember going through East Ham way on family holidays in the 1950's & very early 60's and being fascinated by the overhead catenary. However,during my first two years at MGS they still had trolleys & I used to catch one up to school from the Maidstone & District garage after my 3-mile bus journey from Aylesford.
Unfortunately, in 3N, I discovered smoking & the Bastard took over as Head, so I then started walking up via the backstreets slowly in the mornings.
Yes, we have one or two that must have THEIR photo taken at all costs. I just love the way that cat's hogged the picture, as only a cat can.
February 27 2009, 5:55 PM
This Rodent Control moonlighter didn't live up to expectation and suffered the consequence
For God's sake don't let Teacherswhopaddle see it!
February 28 2009, 12:16 AM
This purr-version (thank you Steve) is obviously very wide-spread. Putting 'cat spanking' into YouTube search gives 422 hits as of tonight.
However, anyone tempted to try it on their pet should read the cautionary comment by J4N15 on the video posted by Ketta. I can't repeat it here as larry1951 will object, but let's just say the cat expressed its annoyance!
February 28 2009, 12:58 AM
Steve M, "For God sake don't let teacherswhopaddle see this." The four elementary school teachers asked for comments from this esteem Forum. They could have just ignored this site so if you have something to say I suggest you read their February 21st post where they review their guidelines for feedback. Wouldn't it be better if you granted their request and address them directly rather than through this forum? They are more than capable of handling themselves and don't need me to come to their defense so read what they wrote about BE NICE, like Rodney King said, can't we all just get along? For God sake walk a mile in their shoes.
We understand that the issue of paddling in school bring out a strong emotional response and bad feelings in people. But we are NOT ogres! Remember: We have feelings too. We all have families and live routine, normal (But sometimes hectic) lives with the normal ups and downs like everyone else. The only difference is that our jobs revolve around 7 to 11 year olds eight hours a day with only a 25 minute lunch break -when not also monitoring the cafeteria! And the last thing we think about is using the paddle -Which is a last resort for us!
February 28 2009, 3:46 AM
American Way, I fear that you and the British sense of humour do not co-exist very easily!
March 31 2009, 6:16 AM
The bottom link leads you to a rare color photo of a famous Elvis spanking scene that was shot in Hawaii in 1961 where and when Barack Obama was born, what an unspoiled island it was back then. Maybe someone can post the picture like the black and white one. I still have trouble doing it when it seems like I'm blocked. She looks like she is laughing in the color one so maybe that was one that didn't make it. Getting some three dozen hard slaps from the King of Rock she must have been hirting, no wonder she was sitting on a pillow the next morning. She got wet but she got just the opposite of a head cold. It must have made for a hard horseback ride if you recall.
In a press interview with Jennie Maxwell (the actress, who played the spoiled Ellie Corbett in Blue Hawaii before she was tragically shot to death along with her husband just before she celebrated her 40th birthday in a robbery) said in a press interview that Elvis spanked her three times for this shoot. She recalled her dress was wet because of her character having tried to have drowned herself when Presley took her over his knee. She also mentioned that because of the wet clothing, it was like being spanked without clothes. She mentioned her bottom was very red and sore for hours following the spanking -- each take involved ten to twelve hard swats to her bottom. She was 19 at the time and got along with Presley during the filming of "Blue Hawaii"; she had no desire to endure another spanking from Presley. Jenny and her husband were gunned down during a robbery in June, 1981. She was barely 40 years old.
Does she look like she is laughing? Maybe it was only the first take? Scroll to the right and it's scan 27.
Thank you. My colleague, Goggle Box, who seems to know about these things, tells me that it is a publicity still.
March 31 2009, 10:35 AM
Addendum. A woman friend of mine is an Elvis collector and I downloaded a print of the small photo because it was less obscured by the logo. Unless my French failed me. Je soupçonne chez ce dernier une bonne dose de mauvaise foi et sûrement une passion cachée pour imposer à la jeune Jenny (20 ans) six fessées consécutives. It said 6 times and not 3 times and implied that it was not for authenticity sake but that Elvis liked it that way because he enjoyed it, not surprisingly surmised given the nature of the adult content site. Given the plot, Elvis should be smiling because she was a thorn in his side and she did need her comeuppance for acting like a spoled brat. I'm sure they would say she enjoyed it too, which I sincerely doubt given by her expression in the movie. The color photo of her smiling came from a Yahoo group, so it could have been a posed publicity photo taken prior to the spanking or a post spanking photo, presumably, if after six takes, some time later. It could indeed be just a painful expression that looks like she's laughing which is why I asked the question in the first place.
March 31 2009, 8:03 PM
Research Assistant 2, please accept my apologies. I realised in the small hours that you wouldn't be able to move my post from the 'Those Honorary Life Members...' thread to this thread because the link was embedded. Thank you for making the effort. Sadly this is the earliest I've been able to get back on the machine to put matters right.
I can't use the link American Way has given you above. My security software says the site contains harmful content and won't let me open the link. I originally found the picture via an image search, and although it appears to be on the same site I can link directly to the picture without any complaints from my system. Here is the direct link in case anyone else has the same problem.
March 31 2009, 8:36 PM
Thanks-it's pleasant to see 2 dedicated young professionals warming to the task at hand!
And enjoying themselves at work!
March 31 2009, 9:13 PM
Hi Steve. Good to see you back, I was a little concerned that you weren't going to be here for April 1st! As regards the picture, I agree entirely with your sentiments. Had I realised that that sort of thing went on in films I might have made an effort to widen my cinema attendance. There certainly wasn't anything like that in 'Touching The Void' which was the last film I saw!
Everyone. Sorry, my mistake, my link to the 'Blue Hawaii' colour picture above isn't on the same site as the American Way link, which is presumably why I can link to it without my security software protesting. I don't know if it is the same image but it appears to correspond with what American Way is discussing.
Interesting that the picture is reversed from the b&w shot Steve has provided above. Elvis appears to be concentrating on the job in hand in both shots, and who wouldn't with an assignment like that! However in the b&w shot I'd say the young lady, either by acting ability or by real reaction, has the facial expression to be expected of one being soundly spanked. This suggests to me that it may be a screen grab from the film, if indeed, as American Way says, she really was spanked. In the colour shot I've linked she is, I would say, most certainly smiling. This could be because it is a posed publicity shot as Research Assistant 2 suggests. Alternatively she may have started to enjoy the spanking!
March 31 2009, 9:52 PM
Have had another look at the clip with which I started the thread. It looks suspiciously like one long take from the same camera after Elvis decides on his course of action.
No guarantee, but I suspect if that's the case, American_Way is right & it was for real. It may just be that the director told them it would have to be that way, simply because that movie, like any other Elvis film, was shot on the cheap, so there could only be one take.
No wonder they both enjoyed it-Jenny isn't exactly putting up much of a fight on screen anyway! Well, it's a difficult job, and someone had to do it, and Elvis did it well.
As I was only 9 at the time, I don't think I could have done as well as I later found I could. And definitely not in one take, even in my prime-suspect I might have fluffed my "lines" 3 or 4 times!
And, I'd better be honest, I remember seeing it when it came out. And that's the only scene that's stayed in the memory bank for 48 years.
March 31 2009, 11:06 PM
Hi Steve. I can't watch the video, more's the pity. It needs the Adobe Flash browser plug-in which I daren't risk on my systems. It's far too buggy and prone to exploits and attacks. I've got easy and safe ways around that for several video sites, but not yet for SevenLoad where that video is.
You've got me wanting to see it now though so when I've got time I'll have a look behind the scenes there and see if I can lift the video by some other means.
April 1 2009, 12:05 PM
Would it help seeing the video on this site, I even think it's clearer.
Hi American Way. Thank you for trying to help, but as I said in my post above at 20:03 on 31 March, my security software says that site contains harmful content and won't let me open the link. Probably absolutely nothing, false positives are the bane of security systems, but I can't afford to take the risk. Stuff off my computer goes to several people and I wouldn't be very popular if I passed any malware on.
April 1 2009, 9:07 PM
This site as was my February 25th link is a veritable mine as it was for the Trevor Howard posting. Here is the scene in both English and German and like the other movie there is a good photo and plot summary as well. I hope this, unlike the other blog site, will work. Sorry, if I wasn't helpful.
From the US cover for the single release from Blue Hawaii:-
Doesn't look it was all fun & games after all! Maybe Elvis was wistful about not following through with young Jenny Maxwell apres-shoot! Or was it just the pineapple daquiris were made with sour cream?
Cheer up, mate-only another 3 films & you'll be playing the most unconvincing Mexican fisherman ever, missing out on Stella Steven's golden globes, and STILL finding the time to regale us with the masterpieces "Thanks To The Rolling Sea", "We're Coming In Loaded" AND the immortal "Song of The Shrimp".
You asked for it!!
April 3 2009, 10:29 AM
I's hijacked this thread briefly.
'E been bombarded with requests for it(so 'E says!), so here's the King & Song of The Shrimp!!
Personally, I loikes eatin' 'em, not singin' about 'em! But then, Stella Stevens don't distract me as I do so!
April 3 2009, 11:54 PM
Elizabeth Allen, in the below link, was too young to be John Waynes fiancé so her spanking was a comedic diversion unlike the Maureen OHara and John Wayne scene in McClintock that had no innuendos, Donovans Reef ill became two legends, some say John Ford was in his dotage and soon Wayne perished from lung cancer. 46 years ago a cinema spanking could be considered an innocent comedic diversion but alas no longer. Maybe some readers from this estimable Forum remember this scene from their youth, like the Roots of Heaven clip it is in German and English here is Donovan's Reef.
The review below said it best: If we just write this one off as Ford and Wayne looking for an excuse to drink rum in the South Seas and waste celluloid with Paramount's money, then the whole thing makes much more sense.
The couple had been married for barely two years when Dyan Cannon filed for divorce. In a packed courtroom she testified that Grant frequently criticized her, spanked her, and even went so far as to lock her in her room. (In a fit of anger Grant once told a friend, ''I'm going to break her like a pony.'')
There is a picture of happier times with their baby daughter Jennifer, a star of her own right in prime time television. Last August Jennifer, the baby in the photo, at 43, had a baby boy named Cary Benjamin Grant.
Boy, does that make me feel old!!! I remember that from my school days.
I broke up the links to maintain the standard width of the screen. The bottom link is from a column published in May by a renowned humorists Art Buchwald in May of 1968 that I thought, although off topic, may be of interests to some. He was just trying to break her like a pony the American Way.
Simply Google: Linseed vs. Linseed ruling of 1949 judge and ignore the last two line link and voila. Cary Grant's lawyer argued from a 1949 precedent that he could legally spank her for certain reason and in a certain manner. LMAO.
Jennifer looks a lot like her Mom in two line penultimate link. Cary Grant's lawyer argued from a 1949 precedent that he could legally spank her for certain reason and in a certain manner. LMAO.
I hope this makes it easier to enjoy.
June 18 2009, 2:02 AM
Strange things are happening tonight. Not only have I got bold text where I didn't intend it in another posting but I thought I posted a note to American Way in this thread asking him to have a look in Computing Corner, where I've had another go at trying to solve his long link problem evident above. I also thought that I was logged in at the time I posted in this thread 'cos I seem to remember deleting my email address before pressing the 'Respond!' button!
There is of course a possibility that I imagined both the logging in and the posting, but if I only imagined the former, and the original post turns up later, my apologies for any duplication.
June 18 2009, 2:50 AM
Circumvented as mentioned in Computer corner, Jennifer does look like their daughter doesn't she? Google: "ruling linseed vs linseed 1949 judge" and think the way they did in 1949, then the way people began to think around the time of their divorce in 1968 and look what we have now. Change isn't always for the better.
Pardon the repeat.
I did the Garfield posting as instructed and this is what came up. Bedtime for Bonzo.
American Way, you've oh so very nearly made me a very happy man! Your new-style links above would have worked but for one teeny little problem. Please see the 'Computing Corner' thread one more time and you'll have the answer to links 10,000+ characters long, if you should ever need to post one!
June 19 2009, 12:43 AM
Apropos to the Clark vs. Cannon divorce, sixty years ago during the Linseed vs. Linseed 1949 ruling spanking a wife wasn't as charged with sexual significance to judge by this national Chase & Sanborn Coffee and Van Heusen shirt advertisement in 1960 then came National Lampoon 1975 Cover and now look how politically correct we are? What a change in ethos? I'm not sure if I'm pushing the envelope of the guardians of this esteem Forum. However familiar this drawing is I want to abide by the rules. Forgive me I am getting a bit off topic unless someone was spanked by a slide ruler.
This message has been edited by larry1951 on Feb 11, 2014 6:58 AM
June 19 2009, 8:02 PM
Amazing, it is indeed a slide rule! I must dig mine out, it's somewhat heavier than the one in the picture!
June 19 2009, 11:32 PM
For the benefit of some readers across the pond National Lampoon was a popular parody magazine. The September 1975 cover is enshrined in a museum and is now deemed worthy to be enshrined in our archives.
For the benefit of our younger readers the slide ruler is like a hand held calculator but is of little avail when grading on the sliding scale. The tweedy professor had little use for scaling according to gender and in that he sense was on the cutting edge.
Off topic, but my thanks to American Way for the slide rule links. Amazing as it may seem to younger readers, I, and doubtless some other visitors here, didn't own an electronic calculator until I was in my 30's. Right through school and tertiary education it was slide rules for any personal calculations too heavy for mental arithmetic and too urgent to wade through logarithm tables. Even when I started work on mainframe computers with one of the UK's largest organisations the only 'personal' calculators provided by my employer were huge mechanical PLus Adders which had keyboards that only went up to 5! With a little ingenuity it was possible to do multiplication and division on them, though I'm blowed if I can remember how!
Forgive my sophomoric humor but this is somewhat unique. Synopsis under oldest spanking.
October 9 2009, 12:07 AM
Does anyone remember Uschi Glas over there? I enjoyed this clip from 1968? It brings back James Bond days. You have to put the previous video (class thrashing) in context to understand and appreciate the times.
The Australian connection might appeal to some and the show appeared last week on our network. John Saffron wasn't giving Kristen Condon a mild spanking or belting was he? This video 10 MB is much better and than youtube shown before. Kristen is pictured below. Noteworthy is the Christian Domestic Discipline is an inoperative adult content site.
Hi American Way. You have done me a great favour. I was considering getting a TV again this Christmas after a gap of many years. The stuff about John Saffron and Kristen Condon has reminded me of why I don't have one so you've saved me several hundred pounds!
Mary Louise Parker
January 20 2010, 5:19 PM
Mary Louise Parker received one on the hardest spanings ever shown in the Emmy Award winning television program Weeds in 2008. She was 44 years old at the time and the spanking was an integral part of the plot. A stuugle between the drug lord playing the part of Esteban and her character Nancy. References were made on the David Letterman night time talk show at the time of the Emmys because it was the talk of the town and I think you will see why if you choose to click within our protocol.
It is a kind of thing that you would expect in a X-Rated movie not on a televison series. I'm not sure if the series has appeared in the UK. Today shows give a heads up to the sult nature content of certain televison for underage and I assume this will not be removed due to taste and decency concerns but I can understand why some may find them offensive. It was not kept from televion viewers. He was coporally punishing her hard (not primarily for his pleasure) while she was enjoying pleasure so it was somewhat unique. This is no sign of this being a case of trick videography for the technical oriented members of this estimable Forum.
I'm not sure if Weeds is shown on Sky One in the UK. The gentleman plays the part of the Mayor but unlike New York's former disgraced Eliot Spitzer this has absolutely nothing to do with prostitution. She wants him to do the "roughing up" that would be akin to a gang retaliation. The previous she was threatened with that if she continued to ask for a cut into his racket. Instead os an underling doing it he acquieced to his request. She is over 40 and it has nothing to do with prostitution and perhaps this thread. The hard and quick manner of the spanking attests to it not being erotically intended. It was surprising given the intensity (attested) by her sitting as if she enjoyed that erotic end. But it is a television show and kusos for her undergoing it. As often with the word "end" no pun intended. Dr Dominum enjoyed Buffy and the Vampire Slayer surprisingly. I watch telivision sports and only Boston Legal another show and that's it in terms of the number of hours I watch televison. Some background on the Shoecase program or as you say (programme?).
The sad demise of John Barrymore is well documented. There are vignettes of his life that are not well known. He spanked his wife (Elaine Jacobs Barrie died in 2003) so hard the he split her skirt at the Belasco theatre shortly thereafter she split.
In 1939 "My Dear Children" was when the legendary Otto Preminger who went over the kneee of Barrymore to help Elaine play the part toward the end of the video. The scene was so famous that when Pub Deb No. 1 was reviewed the paper called the harsh spanking in the 1940 film Pub Deb No 1 as Barrymorish. Regional papers of lesser renown have become google available like Milwaulkee and Pittsburgh and have become a lurk linker dream. In Public Deb No 1 promo it was hailed as a good old fashioned spanking as a turning point of an ultra-modern girl. Let me tell you it may have worked in 1940 but it didn't work for me in 1970 ; It won't work in 2010.
Pub Deb No 1 has little historical value but Barrymore has been of interests to me and won't readily be found elsewhere and will unlikely be discovered in this estimable Forum I don't think it cheapens this site as some opine. I believe in a wide berth as I have side before because we are a diverse group and as in any Happy Circle. Clean, copyright respect and civility makes this estimable Forum standout especially in a topic like corporal punishment that is rightly described from its inception an emotive subject. I don't feel like an outsider.
John Barrymore. My Dear Children. The blond Doris Dudley was on the receiving end of his spanking not to the liking of her six year old son. In the exhaustive biography of John Barrymore a picture was available of that scene but somehow never made it online. Barrymore spanking Elaine Barrie on stage before the "split". With 117 peformances on Broadway alone and Barrymore playing the part in his condition it must not have been his wife's favorite scene by a long shot. Ouch. Some men wouldn't mind playing that part.
Hi Steve M. This supplements your opening posts of this thread and adds another famous couple. Tab Hunter and Elvis Presley were in their mid twenties when they took Natalie Wood (18) and Jenny Maxwell (19) over their knee to give them significantly hard spankings. The Elvis spanking has color photos of the very bratty but not lithe Ellie Corbett.
Natalie looks like she is enjoying her playful birthday spanking. Jenny isn't and you don't have to wonder why. This excerpt is from Elvis Monthly 1961 #11
THE SEAT OF THE TROUBLE
Lets just say it wasnt Jenny Maxwells day. It all started early, when scenes for Blue Hawaii, Hal Wallis production, called for Jenny to try to drown herself, be rescued by Elvis Presley, who then turns the tiny 19-year-old blonde over his knee and gives her a sound spanking.
For the long shot and close-ups, Jenny dunked herself thoroughly three times, was hauled out and spanked by Elvis, a total of four times.
He had to spank hard to make it look good, Jenny later conceded while rubbing the spanked area carefully, but my skimpy costume was wet and there wasnt much between Elvis and what he was spanking, and it stung like anything.
Just then, Norman Taurog called: Now, let us get Jenny dried off and on to her horse.
For the next three hours Jenny, Elvis and Joan Blackman did scenes on horseback over rough terrain, and if Jenny hovered somewhat gingerly above her saddle, everyone understood.
Try and Google: Tab Hunter Spanking Washinton Post.
Los : It seems every time you have been mentioned in the press lately, the photo used if one with Natalie Wood over your lap. I presume that photo was staged to show you and Ms. Wood in a care-free, frolicly relationship. What exactly was going on there: was it staged, was it a birthday spanking as one paper said, and what exactly was going on there?
Tab Hunter: It was Natalie's 18th birthday on the set. She was presented with a cake and so I put her over my lap and started spanking her. She was very playful. She was at that point a young girl/young woman and a total delight.
February 25 2010, 3:19 PM
I'm not surprised Tab Hunter couldn't think of a better birthday present for Natalie Wood. I'm afraid my penchant has always been for redheads & she was a real doozie, young & more mature.
And I'm glad we all know now just how dedicated an actor Elvis was. Fancy having to shoot that spanking scene three times over. How did the poor lad maintain his professionalism, eh?
February 25 2010, 7:46 PM
Tab's penchant was not for redheads as the New York Times indicates. Speaking of redheads my high school sweetheart was Ann-Margret and I even found a way of including in our yearbook. I was editor and the Sister threaten to do a 451. She thought it was off topic. Ace Searcher that was a good one Steve M am I still on topic? You started this thread you know.
I won't give a direct link to this site but assure you there is nothing adult content in the story but it can be used as a portal. It has an interview about her relationship with her uncle that came from a radio call in talk show. It was a follow up of the Life Magazine publicity picture. The uncle was her father figure and she was cute about if she got more it was more than a playful one recently. She sure thought his spankings did her a world of good. How times have changed. I haven't seen the interview anywhere else so just Google spankinggate Ann Margret and it will take you to the story.
February 25 2010, 9:14 PM
Dear Ann-Margaret, Elvis's co-star in Love in Las Vegas-yum yum again, at least at the age I was when THAT was released!!! I would happily have had her provide at my birthday party in 1964. OK, so it was my 12th, but I'd have still appreciated her ass, sorry, assets, in the front room!
Tab's one I forgot about in the self-outing stakes. I still find it amazing the press over your way never blew the cover off Rock Hudson-one of Hollywood's great lovers on screen and off it..................!!
But then, they never mentioned JFK's numerous dalliances, any more than our lot at the same time referred to Harold MacMillan's wife and HER affair of 30 years with Tory Lord Boothby.
Bill Clinton must've wondered just what he did wrong to get plastered all over the front page re Monica Lewinsky!!
Now, there's an interesting theme-did JFK or RFK do more spanking in the bedroom?
February 26 2010, 7:22 AM
I was interested in the account of Jenny Maxwell's spanking by Elvis Presley in Blue Hawaii. As Steve points out poor Jenny was spanked four times by Elvis and then had to sit on her horse for the rest of the day. I imagine she dined out on the story that she was spanked by Elvis many times. Tragically Jenny was shot deas by an armed robber along with her husband outside their home when she was only 39.
It reminds me of a school play I was in when I was about 13.To this day I am still annoyed at my stupidity. A teacher offered me the lead role in a play about King Alfred. I glanced through the play and concluded that there were too many lines to learn and I would prefer a smaller part.
Imagine my shock when I read through it properly and the very last part of the play requires King Alfred to spank his daughter. So this guy gets to spank a 13 year old girl not once, but twice in rehearsals and three more times when the play was shown to Lower, Upper school, and then parents.
It was pretty exciting to watch , but it could have been me . AArgh!!!
February 26 2010, 3:11 PM
In the interests of keeping this posting and perhaps this thread on topic I feel it is incumbent upon me to mention that the Ann-Margret photo was taken in 1962 the very year when Sweden through its Education Act totally banned school corporal punishment.
Among the many questions callers asked Ann-Margret. That night was about the Life Magazine photo of her being spanked over her uncles knee. The caller asked if the photo was real or just a publicity stunt. Ann-Margret responded by admitting that the photo was partly, but the spanking was partly for publicity, but the spanking was real enough and that she had deserved it.
My Father was out of the picture and my mother was a very gentle woman who wouldnt dream of spanking a child. Im really lucky that uncle was always around to smack my bottom when I needed it!
The spankings she were always the same When Uncle caught me erring on the wring side of reasonable behavior, he would tell me point blank that I had earned a spanking. I was in no position to argue because he was right at least 995 of the time. Then he would place me firmly over his knee, flip the back of my skirt up, lower my panties and spank my behind till it was bright red. This took him five minutes that included a couple of breaks for lecturing and to make sure that I understood exactly why I was being spanked. I could never be described as Miss Perfect when I was growing up. In fact still cant. Ive always had great enthusiasm and acted on impulse. Some of those impulses were not the worlds wisest. If I hadnt had my Uncle around to put me over his knee and bring me down to earth, I dont think I would be where I am now.
The caller asked the totally OTT question that some of this Happy Circle (shame on us) would ever think of asking. But in the interests of journalism I must share. When will the next time be and she chuckled and said that matter was between her and her uncle and that she would never tell.
IMHO the spankings probably ended quite awhile ago and she knew where the caller was going but I have no doubt that in the1950s near the Arctic Circle where she grew up that was true then but today is porn or court transcript material now. It definitely was not taken on her birthday but publicity stills like this ended with the age of innocence perhaps with the Kennedy era. That age (not coincidently) coincided with the ascent of feminism with many shocked how many females consented. It was a cover up on both sides.
IMHO Jackies bum was a lot shapelier than Ethels who had 11 children. The sixth child died in a skiing accident on New Years Eve in 1997. Davids last words were to a tree. Do you know who I am? The Senator that replaced Ted Kennedy was a Republican. Senator Scott Brown is now known as the chief spokesman of the tax cutting group known as the Tea Party. With no Kennedy in Washington (Teds son announced he wont run for Congress) the country is free from the monarchy of sorts
February 26 2010, 8:50 PM
Natalie Wood would seemingly cover for the sexual orientation of two men that studios put togther. Both Tab Hunter and Nick Adams were seven years older than her when they spanked her at the age of 17 in "Burning Hills". She wore that dress. They both came out of the closet so it was perhaps a way of protecting her virginity. The birds and the bees without sting. Strange/odd/queer and peculiar?
Google have made public things that were not readily known. Google covered the "Night Hollywood Embraced Esalen" when Natalie Wood was 28. Therapy in the name of sexual gratification. I bet Carl Rogers wished he had his turn. Hypocrites.
The last image I wanted to find something in bottle green gym shorts but to no avail. The UK never fails to cease to amuse me but I suppose the same can be said of the American Way with Catholic schoolgirl uniforms.
Thanks again-pity we got philosophy in with the first link, but I must admit, that's one idea I never tried in looking out for spanking practise! Not that I did too bad anyway, but maybe I missed a trick there. Wonder if Nietsche/Sondergaarde & co ever used it as an excuse to get the birch out?!
We need some input from Another_Lurker re bottle green gym knickers. Principally, which cutie he might like to see best on here in those garments. Who knows, we might just have sufficient powers to achieve it!
February 27 2010, 1:57 PM
Declan You would not have been too happy if you played the part of Howard Keel spanking Kathryn Grayson (passed away this month at 88) in Kiss Me Kate. They say that with all the performances she was the most spanked actress in the history of the theatre but few know that she wore a wooden board so pity Howard Keel not her.
Take it from the American Way as gospel truth that thousands and I mean thousands of boys and girls have played the spanking scene in high schools plays since the show first played in 1953. It was probably the first time some of the boys spanked a girl and for some the last time and for some girls likewise. Because that would also mean at home as well. Too big to be put over the knee.
After that consensually spanked by millions and I mean millions and you don't have to take it from the American Way as gospel truth. A more significant majority of high school boys enjoyed it more than the girls but that is a reasonable surmise. An insignificant number of girl competed for that part even apart from the fact that it was the principal role and that is a reasonable surmise. and more than insignificant number of boys sought that part even apart from the fact that it was the principal role and that too is a reasoanble surmise. Maybe when I say reasonable surmise I'm projecting.
The first link gives a synopsis of the play. Scroll down the second link about Kiss Me Kate and that little known board. The third link is the best phoro of the spanking IMHO online.
February 27 2010, 6:49 PM
Who the hell wrote THAT play?!!
Swinburne is the only renowned English writer with "our" interest I can think of, but I'm sure his preference was for M/M.
Didn't KG also get spanked by Mario Lanza in The Toast of New Orleans? I remember seeing that aged c 13 on TV & noting her dress was yanked up before Mario(presumably) pulverized the seat of her pantaloons(this was set c 1820).
I say presumably, because the film being from 1950, we have no way of knowing or seeing what KG did or didn't have on beneath the dress. Still, I suppose it was better than Olivia De Haviland having a snake thrust down the back of her drawers in Charge of The Light Brigade(1936?)-Errol Flynn being the guilty party there, it was also amazingly NOT a one-eyed trouser snake, either.
I remember a very sharp interest in that film after seeing it on TV, I can assure you-it's stayed with me nearly 45 years if I'm right!
February 27 2010, 9:09 PM
Wide screen 3-D Kiss Me Kate with Howard Keel & Kathryn Grayson. Any high school drama coach knows that it is more likely to find more hoofers than singers among the students and more girls that can sing solo while boys can carry a tune. These skills are brought to bear in the Taming of the Shrew and Romeo and Juliet. Little wonder that Kiss Me Kate and the Westside Story are often the shows that popularize them.
Although people put Kathryn Grayson with Howard Keel the real stars were Patricia Morison and Alfred Drake. They performed 1077 times on Broadway and 400 in London. Ouch. Scribd describes that history. Even after all those theatrical performances she found herself over his knee almost a decade later on televison on the second link. The third link is a rare color picture of a sound spanking. That's my favorite. In a large theatre unlike a televison studio that intensity was required. The last is a video of Grayson and Keel with the familiar build up. The second is from the televison production. This photo was recently released by Life Magazine. Chross blog's adult site devotes pages on Kiss Me Kate. With the exception of the dailymotion video I don't believe in duplicating but adding something.
Never read Taming of The Shrew, so therefore cannot remember if this CP is in the text, or just hinted at.
I DO remember these lines from The Fool in King Lear:
I have used it, nuncle,
ever since thou madest thy daughters thy mothers;
for when thou gavest them the rod and puttest down thine own breeches.
So, was the Bard fladge mad??
Further evidence may be needed!
March 2 2010, 7:41 AM
I don't know who wrote the play about King Alfred. I recall it was in a book of about 6 short plays which were described as being suitable for school kids of our age, 12-15. No luck on googling it either.
Many school kids must have acted this play, but clearly no-one on this forum.
The last line said that King Alfred puts the girl over his knee and spanks her HARD ( in capitals) The boy , though, gave her a more ceremonial spanking rather than as required by the script. I also remember a great deal of excitement from some girls in the audience when the spanking took place.
March 2 2010, 9:34 AM
Hi Declan. I suspect that this isn't the right one as it seems to be a novel rather than a play - I think, but somebody else clearly associates King Alfred with spanking:
Chronicles of Angelcynn Series
by Leah Kelley
King Alfred has a plan to bring his kingdom together through marriage alliances so they might stand united against the invading Danes. But when his plans go awry, does it mean the devil is fighting against him
or God is fighting for him? Includes Erik of Falconhearst, Braden of Draigmere, and Torin of Cumberwulf. ***Contains mild to moderate spanking***
See this web page about half way down (at least, on my 1024x768 screen resolution).
Here's another quote about the book, from a spanko selling off their book collection:
Chronicles of Angelcynn" by Leah Kelley is an historical romance set in the time of King Alfred it is labeled a "Christian Domestic Discipline Spanking Romance" but I have to say although it is a good book there is not an awful lot of spanking in it.
Maybe Ms Kelley did the same play as you when she was at school!
BTW, did you get your broadband sorted?
March 2 2010, 10:28 AM
Thanks for the research. The level of which on this forum never fails to amaze me.I suppose there is a ( very remote!) possibility that Leah Kelley was the girl that got spanked in the play at my school. I cannot remember her name as she was a year younger than me and I never knew her , other than appearing in that play with her.
The plays were made for a school drama lessons, and may have even been in separate small books , but all from the same publisher.
As for my Broadband , it is fine for my purposes but not perfect. I had a problem with the mouse at the weekend so was off line for a couple of days. If you get used to the internet , just being off line for a few hours is very frustrating. All solved now though.
March 2 2010, 11:06 AM
40 years ago I was facing a low draft lottery number with a high possibility of being act to serve in Vietnam. I did not but into the containment theory and would have to take on a non combatant role because I couldnt kill someone I didnt know. It was a time of great turmoil and I joined a group known as the Theatre Project that didnt believe in demonstration but canvassing door to door to have our Congress to stop the funding. I met Jo Beth Williams at a time when a production played linked below. No she was not hippie No. 8 on page 37 (sadly partially revealed in Wilson in the Promised Land) but I saw something I didnt like. She wasnt part of that play. She was working hard on courses that semester. Obviously I took interests in the spanking scene but I believe in a play it should be playful. The girls had to take a rotation because Ronald (FDR) spanked way too hard. The patrons had paid good money for this was not an amateur production. They rightly made a stink. The guys in charge toned it down and were amused, I took the girls side and as a parent I would discourage her to play the part. But by college thats their choice but I wonder if when they look back they will know that they were exploited.
As you can see it was at the time and od thw genre of the American Tribal Love-Rock Musical Hair. I saw the Broadway production last year with the same cast thats playing in London now. Almost 60 years ago Kiss Me Kate played 400 performances in London. Has it been revived or played by schools there?
Golden years of the flappers (Background). College home movie. Flapper drawing (December 1932) and last clip is of 1924 Girl Shy with Harold Lloyd and Jobelyn Ralsin in Girl Shy 1924 (scene 3:45). The first image is from December 1932 drawing. The second photo is from the movie.
Nothing much to add to this thread or others , but the Slade stuff is interesting. I was surprised he is only 60. I hope he gets what he deserves .
Just for A_L
The Nottingham Wheel is back up , and a pub , Lloyds No.1, a stones throw away, is having a Skool Weekend on 26/27 March. This will include lots of nubile ladies in school uniform caning willing patrons.
They say 70s , 80s, 90s music will be played and you are encouraged to come in school uniform. Not sure about the 90s stuff unless our friends from Rodneys attend.
That Skool Weekend etc., for Declan
March 9 2010, 12:37 AM
Hi Declan. Thank you very much for the information. I seldom go into Nottm, and as I don't see any local news I didn't know the Eye was back. I shall go in and have a ride as the view is fantastic, and the only time I went on it I wasn't carrying a camera. A bad memory to overcome though. I'd not been very well, must have been looking a bit under the weather, and they gave me a pensioner discount without my asking. The only time that's ever happened anywhere! Of course it could have been the fact that I was the only potential client and they were desperate to get somebody on (vanity is a terrible thing ). Anyway, I sat on it in solitary state for several revolutions.
Lloyds Number One, is that the old Yates Wine Bar? Or maybe you don't go back that far! I shall try to attend the skool weekend. Should be a good laugh. I'm not sure about the attending in school uniform bit though. I've still got a house scarf, a house tie and a Privileged Sixth Former's tie (never did make Prefect ) and I know where I can borrow the correct house cap. Sadly though that's about the extent of the wardrobe and it would be a bit chilly in that ensemble in this weather, even with the scarf and the beard, also pretty painful if I was minded to volunteer for the caning!
On the subject of school uniform I've just been visiting a friend and he's given me a copy of a photograph of our 12 year old selves plus the rest of the form in our first year at NHS 55 years ago. Short trousers, the full schoolboy getup, complete with leather sandal wielding Form Master, though sadly he isn't displaying said implement. I thought of posting a copy to revitalise Steve's short-lived Spot the lurker competition! thread by seeing if anyone could! Who knows, I might still!
March 9 2010, 11:06 PM
Well, whilst we await the revival of Spot The Lurker(PLEASE!!), here's royalty allegedly stirring it in 1987.
Yeh, we all stir Xmas puds in AUGUST, don't we & this just HAS in the year CP was abolished here in state schools.
Lloyds No.1 is towards Hockley on the corner of Pelham Street and Victoria Street. I think it's a new pub as I don't recall a pub on that site before. There is an attractive barmaid there , in her forties , so old enough to have experienced CP, so that weekend might be a chance to ask her whether she has ever been caned. I don't have any of my school uniform , though I kept my rugby shirt for a few years.
Yates is still there under that name , but I haven't been in there for many years. The pubs surrounding the Market Square seem to be inhabited by low life.
Interesting picture of Princess Di. I wonder if those sailors were queuing up to be paddled by her. I certainly would! I did read once that the worst punishment Princess Di got at school was having to weed the garden. Maybe if she had been paddled she might have got more than one O level.
March 11 2010, 1:16 AM
Hi Steve. A fascinating post! It will be interesting to see what the item sells for, especially in these straitened times!
Yeh, we all stir Xmas puds in AUGUST, don't we
I'm not sure, but isn't it traditional to make Christmas puddings well in advance. They certainly do at the factory of 'the world's oldest Christmas Pudding maker' not far from me which turns out 1000s of them!
You also say:
Well, whilst we await the revival of Spot The Lurker(PLEASE!!)
I see you've taken up the idea yourself! I probably will follow suite, but my attention has been diverted by your picture. On seeing it I recalled that somewhere I have a photograph of part of my class in the last year of Infant School. This shows not only an infant Lurker, but also the lady teacher who the previous year had given an even more infant Lurker his aversion to being on the receiving end of school corporal punishment AND the girl who 4 years later became the possible trigger for his presence here when she carelessly got herself slippered in ****** ***** *** ********.
Not too difficult to spot the lady teacher, but anyone getting the girl and the two Lurkers right certainly ought to be worthy of a prize. Perhaps a special edition of 'The Daily Matrix' on a (Forum related of course) topic of their choice? ) I'll see if I can locate the other picture!
Hi Declan. Thanks for the info regarding Lloyds No.1. I've now Googled it and read up on it. No adverts on the web for the Skool Daze event though. I note the pub has wireless broadband facilities. One could sit and post a blow by blow account of the proceedings! You say:
There is an attractive barmaid there , in her forties , so old enough to have experienced CP, so that weekend might be a chance to ask her whether she has ever been caned.
Not a job for a Lurker. We prefer to errr .......... lurk. I think you're the man for that assignment. I trust you'll let us know what she says!
And you say to Steve:
I wonder if those sailors were queuing up to be paddled by her. I certainly would!
Another_Lurker is not greatly influenced by beauty or fame. But there was the occasional exception, and it would have been after me in the queue please!
March 11 2010, 1:40 AM
Declan: Maybe if she had been paddled she might have got more than one O level.
Wasn't there a story about her kindergaten kids smacking a bum? And the brouhaha following her use of the word from the Queen Mum? She was just a unprepossessing kindergarten teacher aide and she captureed the heart of the world.
March 11 2010, 4:00 AM
American Way, you said of Diana, Princess of Wales:
She was just a unprepossessing kindergarten teacher aide and she captureed the heart of the world.
Ah, I see. The fact that she was the daughter of an Earl and a descendant of two English Kings, an internationally acknowleged beauty and a style icon, and possessed of great sympathy and concern for those less fortunate than herself had absolutely nothing to do with her success then?
You also said:
Wasn't there a story about her kindergaten kids smacking a bum?
Possibly you are thinking of this US magazine article. I think it is a faked story though.
March 11 2010, 11:52 AM
That goes without saying. I can't say anything better about her than your sovereign. She was without peer.
March 11 2010, 2:50 PM
As an avowed Republican, even I loved Di. She had natural grace and a heart.
England's rugby team also went down the pan the moment rumours of Di's discussions with Will Carling leaked. Wonder who the better tackler was?
Still have to wonder why Charles was so bloody stupid-most men would sooner cut their right arm off than leave a lovely girl like that cuckolded.
As to that pic, it was originally in The Sun, Rupert Murdoch's abominable little rag, which has cheapened this country for years. No wonder you exported HIM, Doc-hardly a fair exchange for Harold Larwood & Frank Tyson!!
And she was actually bending down to cuddle the little tearful Prince who had underperformed on the school's sports day. Having been a nursery assistant, she would know that the short-range smack is bloody more effective, and that sure ain't one about to be delivered!!
March 11 2010, 5:27 PM
The story I was referring to was the children smacking her bottom playfully perhaps for her birthday. Probably totally independent of that incident in preparation for her marriage she was told not to refer to that part of the anatomy. Totally tabloid I would imagine. I was in Montreal and attended an Episcopal service and found out about her death during their prayers of intention. We were both very saddened. This "ace link finder" serached in vain so it probably was a sexploitation article.
March 12 2010, 7:02 PM
Surely the England rugby team have improved since the Will Carling/ Princess Di incident.
A World Cup win in 2003 and finalists four years later. Despite this England have not been seeded in the subsequent tournaments. Imagine if this had happened to our beloved football team. Oh! come to think of it the England football team have been given tame draws for the last last eight years and have not played a proper team in a competitive game in that time. Let us see what happens when we play Spain or Holland or whoever in the World Cup if we get that far.
As regards Australians, what about Clive James? We could have done without him.
March 22 2010, 9:36 PM
1946 the GIs have come home after their wives have left their homes and joined the workforce. Back to being housewives and taking second class jobs made women rightly outraged. Spankings during the romance and taming stage were one thing but spousal spankings was a whole different story. Wives didnt want to sit through a film and think their husbands had a green light.
Publicity posters (occasionally) on eBay and publicity stills, posters and lobby cards such as Janie Gets Married and a handful of other films were plentiful. For this bridal spanking scene audiences were actually handed cards where the patrons audiences what they thought of these scenes. Little wonder both scenes and the threats of spanking were removed. This wasnt for erotic censoring but for the nascent rise of post war reaction of the new found freedom that woman experienced after their accepting responsibility commensurate with men.
The ads promoting products involving spousal spankings were comical by nature. Bosses spanking secretaries was in their dreams although there was not a strict code of sexual harassment. There were advice columns and spousal spankings went the way of humor.
The ads promoting products involving spousal spankings were comical by nature. Bosses spanking secretaries was in their dreams although there was not a strict code of sexual harassment.
The beginning of thread was a 1968 divorce case of in the USA with Cary Grant and Dyan Canon. This British 1958 case had a different twist. It is hard to believe that something like this would happen. What do you say to a woman with two black eyes? Say nothing you told her twice. The thrice spanked Norita Clements never really loved her husband. Did she? It doesn't sound all that funny anymore. Domestic abuse leads to more restraining orders than licesence revocations dur to poor driving here.
The Wheatsheaf pub is still going and is situated just outside Herne Bay in a place called Swalecliffe. Ever since the acrimonious divorce case in 1958, it has been customary to say bottoms up before downing your first pint!
April 5 2010, 2:19 AM
Is this story and/or vicinity familiar to some here?
The 1920's were an innocent times. Brazil could put on a retro scene like this in a daytime drama for television without a blush. They wouldn't be taming it down due to political correctness as they would in the states. Soap operas in the states have restraining orders with courtroom drama following a It's the longest build up since McClintock and softest spanking. He wants to punish her but is having too much of a good time doing so. It's Shakespeare from the synopsis and McClintock from the action.
Catalina Batista (Adriana Esteves)is a modern woman in the 1920, which reject the role of woman in the household. Julian Petruccio (Eduardo Moscovis) is a man who believes that women have to be the princes of the house. Two different people live a contradictory romance. Better known as "la fiera" for ignore her bows, Catalina falls for Petruccio's cynic attitude. Petruccio at the beginning decides to win Catalina's heart and marry her to save his hacienda from bankruptcy with her money. They ending up falling in love to each other, but they don't want to recognize their feelings. They have discussions and explosives fights. He simulates to be sincere and she appears to be furious with his insistence.
Some of the people around them believe in their romance but others do not. For example Catalina's father who would like to see his daughter married. If Catalina is married he can run to be the city's mayor without worrying about his daughter's behavior. Bianca, Catalina's sister support her sister's marriage because she want to have a boyfriend but she can't have one until Catalina gets married or has a formal boyfriend. Cornelio, Petruccio's uncle supports his nephew; Calixto sees Petruccio as a son. Dinora and Josefa, sister and mother of Hector also want to see him marry Bianca because they love the Batista's fortune. Among the ones who does not approve the romance is Lindinha who grows up in the Petruccio's hacienda. The journalist Serafin pretends to woo Catalina and the villain Joaquin wants to ruin Petruccio because he believes that he is responsible for his daughter's Marcela's perdition. To worsen the situation, Marcela returns from Paris with the intention to get her father fortune and win Petruccio heart not knowing she would have to face "la fiera."
5ive girls school corporal punishment was the most realistic from my Catholic School Experiences. Yes, the yardsticks used, only difference being the student bent over the student desk facing the class. Yes, the girls wore similar skirts. No, perhaps thanks to me a girls was spared the same fate, the compass poke in the butt in my sophomore year previously shared, but the threat was issued to all and they believed her. Why did she punish? Because the class was left alone at a study period and she came in and caught the class talking unaware. Granted this was in 1968 but the same Sister was in charge through 1975. Imagine the lay principal in the late 70's to early 80's being in charge being the same bent over the desk in 1966. He would never strike a child. We didn't have prefects but student council members who sat in the teachers desk assigning detentions. There were no student councilor present that day for whatever reason. They were taken out of study hall duty if they didn't squeal or as they say today snitch. Squeal was nice becuae they were rat finks.
The girl who was rumored to get the stick was a girl who went from foster home to foster home and spent time in an orphanage. When you have nothing you guard everything you have from the other person even if it's only a napkin at the dinner table at an orphanage. She flipped out over hairspray but that's all I know. One time she got thrown against the wall and that we all heard. It was for spitting out the gum at the foot of the principal. It was obvious she wanted to be tranferred to the public school which she did. This picture reminded me of her; she was the toughest girl in the class and all learned to stay out of her way. The devil was in her eyes. The sister tried to beat it out of her but to no avail.
The celebrity is none other than Jennifer Miller who like Naomi Watts career took off after feeling the Catholic School Yardsick.
Flappers were involved indirectly with the Cutting Short (Postriziny) scene in the TV Tonight thread. Suffrage, WWII, 50 the anniversary of the pill has put the days of maternal spanking and boyfriends spanking girlfriends for rebellion are thankfully over. Spank Statement is a site some may prefer not to navigate so forewarned is forearmed. The site of a flapper being spanked was a comical reaction of mothers or wives to rebellious over age girls rebelling in their homes. It was not considered erotic for it was still the age of the innocent.
Follow up on Flapper 2 photo. This was what the part the picture; I was unable to find a direct link to the paper. I have not been able to find it and I'm in a quandary about its credibility.
The notorious Woodside case, 1928
Christine admitted that she had used a bit more severity than she should, but she also vowed to spank Lorene again when she returned home.
By the time the case came to trial a week later, it had attracted a crowd of several thousand spectators, and the court had to be removed to the city auditorium. The two principals, both young and pretty, arrived and were photographed dressed in the latest fashions. Lorene broke down and cried, and a number of mothers in the audience fainted, when Christine was found guilty. Refusing to pay a $10.00 fineIll not crawfish, JudgeChristine was taken off to the local jail.
That evening, the phones of the court judges rang repeatedly with calls from mothers who complained that their daughters were now declaring that they would take no more spankings. The judges assured the distraught parents that their traditional rights were intact, provided they were not exercised with undue severity. (We may infer that in the next days the hard wooden seats of the Kansas City high schools creaked as a number of plump, flapperish bottoms squirmed uncomfortably.)
One of the judges made a public statement the next day that he regarded spanking as an excellent punishment for teenaged girls. He advised, however, that a light paddle would be a better
Back in K.C., Christine posted bond after a night in jail, and Lorene came home a few days later. At the girls own request, her mother spanked her as promised, using only the flat of her hand this time.
The publicity surrounding this case snowballed until it made front-page news all over the country for a week. There were numerous editorials and sermons on the issue. One of the Chicago papers summed up the popular mood with the headline:
Spare the palm and spoil the flapper!
Also I notice in the color picture of Postriziny, definitely not period piece "bloomers", I wonder if that was for the benefit of the live audience. Czech were not American flappers. I was amused when she bared her bottom, was she doing that to thrill the bystanders or to let him see the markings and judge whether he she needed more? She wouldn't have much more to show on the stage.
I was not able to passively link the color picture for those who may not want to enter the site. Maybe someone can do so?
May 20 2010, 10:30 PM
Thanks. Highly enjoyable set of links.
I think the 20's were an extremely erotic era. Clara Bow got her nickname of the "It" Girl for dispensing it to the University of Southern California(or Carolina)'s entire football squad in one night.
That's over 40 guys & we are not talking careers advice, cooking recipes either!
Mind you, I always thought F Scott was BOATS against the current, not BUTTS!):
May 21 2010, 12:54 PM
Clara Bow and the flappers opened a whole new world for women. The most famous USC football player linked to her was Marion Morrison, aka John Wayne. The infamous incident was alleged to happen in 1927 when he was sidelined by a shoulder injury, hmmm. Was there a time where styles like this were common in the UK. They really do look delightful IMO. Wouldn't mind living them.
Now we also know where that tag line of his came from:
"Either put up or shut up, Kincaid!"
Maybe the other one of his lines was cribbed from Clara Bow-if someone asked her if she'd ever met a man who satisfied her:
"THAT'LL be the day!".
Over here, AW, we had a far more rigid class system than you & we got hit by a massive trade depression right after WW1, well before the after-effects of the Wall St Crash. I've seen very little evidence of the flapper style outside of the upper classes, debutantes & that sort of thing in England.
I also think the slang of that period took some beating-poodle faker, lounge lizard etc.
And, of course, the Charleston dance came from South Caroline, as the lyrics proclaimed. As to where the Blackbottom came from............... Not to mention, given the links, why it wasn't the Red, Striped or Blue Bottom!!
May 22 2010, 12:01 AM
Hi Steve. You say above to American Way:
I've seen very little evidence of the flapper style outside of the upper classes, debutantes & that sort of thing in England.
With the greatest respect I have to disagree. Photographs of the women from the generation before me, born in the 1900s, in their late teens and twenties show definite flapper influences and styles. I can remember when my parents' Charleston was still a legend locally! And miners might have been the aristocracy of the working class then, but they weren't upper class in the sense you imply, and their daughters certainly weren't débutantes!
May 23 2010, 7:55 PM
American movies were replete with the subjugation of girls through their teen years, the most famous being Shirley Temple evolution from a baby to a teenager. I was proud to know she became a Congresswoman prior our Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi.
A scholarly book with this cover from a promotional poster of Kiss and Tell is published in the second link. Interesting to note that a not so bored look upon the moment of contact, found in the last link, it costs the child stars anatomy the same pain.
From what she wrote this may have been her last spanking since not being spanked from her babyhood. At a wedding recently a grandmother ordered a Shirley Temple at the bar for a teenager and the bartender had no clue, was that common parlance over there for a a non-alcohol drink?
On a lighter for TWP benefit, Shirley got spanked for a pebble. Not to open an old discussion, though I know it was an announced offense meriting severe punishment, I still think that was a stretch. No pun intended.
One of Shirley's few adult movies was That Hagen Girl in 1947. She ended up riding into the sunset with a man about 25 years older.
The audiences hated the idea, as did the man when he first read the script.
Step forward, future President...........Ronald Reagan. This film had him burning with embarassment til the day he died.
May 24 2010, 12:39 AM
Steve: I would like to think that the difference between the bored and the ouch made have had something to so with an attitude adjustment. There are tell tale wrinkles and the restraint of an arm evident in the ouch photo. We cannot hot link so I can't juxtapose them for the benefit of our perusal. My error was to say she was a congesswoman here and in another post with a pro-CP to be congresswoman from California who experimented while an elected school official. Renee is not the only one that experiments. Below is a summary of a remarkable woman's journey.
After WWI there were many changes similar to following WWII. Women enter the workforce and finished college and began to want to both date and work as professional. The days of the schoolmarm and nurses without spouses were gone forever. The right to vote came and the right to live outside your home without marriage made many fathers and male authority feel frightened. Usually, the flappers involve mothers spanking their grown daughters, for sins they probably got away with when they were away from home, or boy tames girl but this must have been staged unlike Judge Garza in Texas having the parents paddle their truant children. Two swats over all that clothes little wonder she was laughing.
Thanks-absolutely fascinating recreation of a byegone era.
Must say the moustaches of the cameraman at the ballroom and the hairdresser looked very familiar, as well!
Certainly, no "decent" woman, before WW1, would have been seen smoking, especially in a public place. And, as for that dancing!!
Taming of the Flapper
June 16 2010, 12:25 AM
Bunker Bean is situated in the midst of the women suffrage movement. The author as wiki put it:
Harry Leon Wilson (May 1, 1867 June 28, 1939) was an American novelist and dramatist best known for his novels, Ruggles of Red Gap and Merton of the Movies. His novel, Bunker Bean helped popularize the term flapper. The book and reviews of the movie and play follow.
Kiss Me Kate is so restrained when compared to the 16 stinging slaps. There was no need for acting here. I don't think anything with less gusto than that for a flapper would tame her. The film was 23 years after the book was written in 1913 during the beginning of the flapper generation by 1936 the depression was on and the roaring twenties were gone forever. As I look back I think the prosperity of the Reagan eighties would be the closest I've seen to that. The days of liquid lunches and wining and dining became a thing of the past over here. Louise Latimer is now 94 but far more famous is the late Hedda Hopper comforting her in the first link.
The Hulton Archive has a tasteful collection of the most beautiful girls in cinema and I'm sure you agree the Getty Images are of the highest quality.
A comical flourish that I enjoyed is when the grandmother delights in her comeuppance while the girls parents are outraged. I hope that by situating these scenes within a historical context can give readers of this estimable Forum a bigger picture.
Outside the school setting and among friends of the same age is where birthday spankings belong. Boys rarely get it but girls are on the receiving end from boys and girls alike through their twenties and among their peers. Girls do not welcome being touched by men on their bathing suit areas. Do birthday spankings happen in any extent on the UK?
Back to the thread, Natalie Wood since 1981 has been the butt of every only wood that doesn't float joke on this side of the pond. At a Karaoke bar they play Don Ho "Tiny Bubbles" at Champagne toasts mocking her. It enrages me.
Natasha Gregson Wagner was only 11 when her mother perished. She is now just a few years younger than her mother when she perished. Her mother was spanked in 1956 and she was spanked in 1991 by Tab Hunter. Natalie married in 1957. Early marriages often occurred in Hollywood even more than real life. The studios actually preferred their child stars, like Shirley Temple, to marry young while they were under contract. At 21 it would be highly unlikely that she would be draping herself over his knee if it weren't for her mother's publicity shot. 1991 birthday spankings were looked upon in askance. They both seem to be enjoying their birthdays.
Where did Tab Hunter find that damn 4-leaf clover, then??
Natalie Wood's Gestalt Guru & Spanking Psychiatrists
June 27 2010, 4:25 AM
While Natalie was doing photo ops ivolving spanking she was involved in a unique form of therapy briefly mentioned in a previous post. It's hard to picture the scene but there were enough witnesses that attest to its veracity. Tuesday Weld stepped out of the queue just in time. July 1966 was a different era. The incident is now a topic of historic scholarly interests.
The Night the Guru Spanked Natalie Wood: Emotion and Legend at Esalen. Marion S. Goldman, University of Oregon, firstname.lastname@example.org
Natalie was spanked by 73 year old Dr. Fritz Perls when she was 27. Tuesday Weld had the good sense of not going over his knee although she was next in line. Fritz Perl is interviewed but not about this incident.
Most will find Gestalt Guru video living proof of Dylan Thomas quotation: Somebody's boring me. I think it's me
She sured look gorgeous in west Side Story-Puerto Rican, NO, gorgeous, YES!
Loved her eyes in the This Property clip. Sort of mischievous roll that would get any man doing any thing for her.
August 26 2010, 6:18 AM
This posting I shifted from youtube corporal punishment to here. There was day when publicity photos never made it to the screen. June Have had one that didn't and one that did. I enjoyed the movie on its own merits and I have included the delightful music by Maude Maggert.
Great-tag the look on her face in the very last frame of clip 3-"I was enjoying that, Gordie!"
What a comedown after that with Oklahoma, eh? Perhaps it's time to think up a few title changes to musical songs & get a spanking musical up & running!
Come on, I'm not the only fertile imagination on here, am I?
Frontier Gal 1945
August 28 2010, 6:17 AM
This is my all time favorite cinema spanking scene. At that It was Yvonne De Carlo and Rod Cameron in Frontier Gal 1945. When I watched it in high school it was by far better than McClintock and Blue Hawaii. The whacks were harder and Yvonne De Carlo and she was at the perfect age of 23. What a waste to make her a Munster. I love Yvonne's stairway scene with an inebriated John Wayne in McClintock. She died in January 2007 and you tube gave tributes to one of the most beautiful girls of the silver screen.
No matter how hard Johnny Hart (Rod Cameron) tries he just cannot make the case that his wife Lorena Dumont (Yvonne De Carlo) that he is true and loves her. Well she accepts one of the longest and hardest spankings administered in any mainstream movie. After 40 whacks in front of the daughter and the public passerby's. she relents and believes that he loves her when he says so. He have her 40 whacks with a dozen or so making full impact in front of the camera. The difference between yelling and screaming occurs after the last four given full force.
Johnny takes Mary Ann Hart (Beverly Simmons), their daughter out of Lorena's hands. "You'll listen alright.". He puts the child down and turns Lorena over his knee.
All this in front of their daughter, Mary Ann Hart (Beverly Simmons). Mary Ann says: "Daddy you spanked mama."
"Darn tooten I did."
"That means you love her."
"Yes, that's what I've been trying to tell her."
During the the worst of it, she cries out: Oh stop it. You brute. You don't have the right to treat me like this. He responds : Oh but I do my dear. A man's got the right to spank a disobedient, willful, spoiled wife. Just like she was a child. Especially when she acts like a child. Whenever he thinks she needs it.
It has a happy ending; Johnny has convince Lorena that he has been both faithful and loving.
What is normal or what is abnormal when it comes to sexual proclivities. Normal Adolescent Behavior explored (realistically or not) of college behavior that would be as surprising to us as we were to our parents. Not to be surprised would be. See the star with Hilary Clinton. Despite her role she is not a porn star nor is the movie. The script gives you a pretty good idea of what goes on in some campuses. Can you imagine the openness of college kids? There is something written (play it safe) or be daring and watch the video starting at 55:25.
Page 63 to 66 in the script pertains to the video clip in my prior post.
August 30 2010, 6:17 AM
Director's Note from Normal Adolescent Behavior
Teenagers have sex. This is a movie about teenagers who have sex,
but that doesn't mean there's sex in the movie. Some of the best
teen films have been about sex and love and nobody ever got naked.
This film will look beautiful and everyone will look sexy, but
there's absolutely no reason anyone has to get naked.
The above is an example of making a point but not going overboard.
September 5 2010, 3:43 AM
Monday here is Labor Day and the following day the kids go back to school. In their honor we look back to the Good Old Naughty School Day. Between 1905 to 1930 the European Cinema proved interesting to scholars as a soft porn where women enjoyed their sexuality. We have girls who are daring darlings who are not above thumbing their noses up at their teacher or drawing a kitten or napping in class. The last picture looks like a gym set. The photos seem more German than French. It's an interesting approach to female math anxiety. Some are reposts.
Good old naughty school days. Given her pleasurable demeanor she looks like she is more than just following instructions for the piece. My sense this was a recreation of more recent vintage where women weren't suppose to enjoy such things. Lacking a provenance one can never be sure. Human nature being human nature, men are (visually stimulated) than women would find this depiction more pleasurable. That's what people say and is borne out commercially.
I'm disappointed. As a mathematician, I feel you should have pointed out that the young lady being spanked appears to have been studying (or to have been failing to study) Pythagoras' Theorem!
Movie: She Married Her Boss 1935
September 10 2010, 5:15 AM
Its interesting to note that in 1957 (height of decency crusade) compilations of Hollywood Screen Spankings were used to sell girlie magazines, so much for the age of innocence. "Hollywood Spanking Scenes" large photos of Red Skelton from The Fuller Brush Man, Joel McCrea, John Carroll, Geoge Murphy, Spencer Tracy, Melvin Douglas, Kirk Douglas, Fred MacMurray, all having some fun warming female backsides in the movies.
A robust spanking of a twelve year old, granted off screen, would never be allowed 75 years later. Thats abuse by any standard. I hope she was hitting something other than her bottom. This is going to hurt you more than it hurts me seems by appearances it sure did. There is quite a build up in the video as well as photos showing the brat but you can start it at 7:00 minutes. Claudette does the spanking of the brat (Edith Fellows) but the promotional shows both.
From 12 years old to apparently 49 with a 1913 birth and a 1962 movie. Hungarian Marika Rokk looks like she qualifies for up there with the oldest. She didn't seem to lose her charms with age. Have you ever notices some of the most beautiful actresses are Hungarian.
Spankings of Movie & Television archived by time released from 1895 to present in Internet Movie Database (IMDB)last link. The oldest (1895) with poster on sale is last link. If you search it by chronology you can see Bat Masterson (114) spanking scene in the first link.
Italics here for this is a digression. Skip the paragraph if you dont like to read it or skip the thread altogether if you find its contents too off topic. Am sure some dont need to be told that by yours truly that. I was told the toughest nuns were sent to my school. That made sense because nuns usually taught in exclusive all girl schools and not in poor neighborhoods. In 1958 we got our own television. My second grade horror year. Prior to that the highlight of the month was when my three siblings and me walked to a movie theatre one Saturday a month and paid fifteen cents (a kings ransom) to see usually a horror film (like The Screaming Skull). An usher threw me out once for throwing popcorn at my eldest brother of blessed memory in the balcony
One of the first shows I remember was Bat Masterson, who could forget his cane? At 23:40 minutes into the Brown Bombshell episode (second link) is a great scene that I would not have a particular interest in 50 years ago but soon thereafter would. That being said the Golden Journey episode of The Saint with Roger already was when my interest grew. Fetish oriented website usually give a snippet of the spanking scene for titillation purposes only. All meaning is context derivivative. Why do I like the Gene Barry (Bat Masterson) scene? I think for the same reason I like scene with Roger Moore (Simon Templar). To be frank I like scenes where the suave gentleman (me in my dreams) doesnt derive any carnal pleasure other than knowing he is giving a girl with an exaggerated sense of entitlement their just desserts. It should be a reluctant surrender of a strong-willed girl with petulance and not motivated by any prurient motives by either gender or accomplished by force.
Gianna Maria Canale plays Empress Theodora and at 4:30 she receives an overdue spanking on youtube. Perhaps she learned from a man from this account how to administer one. Procopius. (Italics)
Studios used history to circumvent oppressive censorship in the fifties (image) last link attests to the NYT movie review of 1954.
As Theodora, Gianna Maria Canale, a comparative newcomer seen here previously in Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer's "Go For Broke," is a striking beauty whose charms are not left to the imagination. What Signorina Canale lacks in histrionic ability is overshadowed by the physical requirements of the role.
The Empress Theodora is reported to have spanked a courtier: Among the large number of men whom she treated this way were Leontius, who occupied the position of Referendarius, and Saturninus, son of Hermogenes the Magister, both of them just married. This Saturninus had married a second cousin, a maiden of good birth and excellent character, whose father Cyril had approved the match, Hermogenes having died earlier. No sooner had they shut themselves into the bridal chamber than Theodora seized the groom and carried him off to another chamber, where in spite of his heartbroken protestations he was married to Chrysomallos daughter. This Chrysomallo had once been a dancer and later a courtesan, but at the time of this incident she was living in the Palace with another Chrysomallo and Indaro. For there it was that after abandoning womans oldest profession and the life of the theatre they had established their headquarters. When Saturninus had slept with his new bride and found that she had been deflowered, he informed one of his intimate friends that the girl he had married was nothing but damaged goods. When this comment came to Theodora's ears, she said that he was showing off and had no right to be so puffed up, and ordered her servants to bend him over like any schoolboy. Then she gave his behind a fearsome beating and told him not to talk such nonsense in future. Procopius, Secret History
The Italian actresses of the 1950's had one thing in common. They were beautiful. For movie buffs here is a little trivia before they blossomed. I recognized Gina and Sophia. Europe didn't have the fashion police.
To be totally politically correct the spanking of a 13 year old is considered sexual abuse on the silver screen even though it appears in the script. The girl is the central character and the sanking is central to the lot as found on page 44-45.
1969 and 2010.
Here is the script crucial to the movie. pp. 44-45
Kim Darby doesn't receive the greatest review judging from a cartoon spoof.
In the panel depicting the spanking scene, Kim Darby is tellling Glen Campbell, "Ow, Ow! You are giving me a pain in my rear end!" To which Glen answered, "Good! Now you now how the audience feels watching your acting!" Meanwhile, in the background, John Wayne on horseback was musing, "That's what I like to see: good wholesome sex! None of that nudity stuff!
December 17 2010, 8:11 PM
The People Magazine link. The other is a transcript from a popular morning show here.
Arguably the most beautiful Hollywood Star of all times was the most often married absenting even Richard Burton was Elizabeth Taylor. In real life do fathers spank brides? One has to go back to 1903 to read about an interesting case of a fourteen year post wedding spanking. The promotional picture of the 1950 Father of the Bride would never be repeated with the revived revived Steve Martin movie. I've included a color photo (last one) to capture her stunning beauty. The second photo shows the moment of impact photo.
They had faces back then. The legendary stars Mary Pickford and Buddy Rogers were a highlight of Gene Kelly when on behalf of the Academy he presented an Oscar. She was petite and played the child woman role that became her signature behavior and endeared film fans for decades. Pickford, Canadian born American Sweetheart, 35 at the time of this picture, shows her spunk with gavel at night court but Carmelita Geraghty's screen father treated her in a manner expected of a father toward an adult daughter right up to the point of her marriage. This was in 1927 during the heyday of the flappers that unleashed the rebellions of suffrage in the ensuing decade and the and the rise of feminism through the latter part of postwar years of the second of the second millennia.
1956 is more in my era where spankings were something that were dreaded but expected. My personal family life was not one where corporal punishment was practiced. Fathers didn't spank daughters as often as mothers did because often it might have involved issues of modesty. Removing articles of clothing involve calls to social service agencies today. I'm sure the spanking of Patty McCormack was something that would be a scene that would have lasted through the years for it was a curtain call. It was to make the creepy brat of the film the everyday girl that made it all the more surprising. It was a role of her lifetime but she has stayed gainfully employed an actress; she was born in 1945. She has maintained her natural beauty through the seasons of life. The early post war years stay home mothers either said come here and punished on the spot or more likely with the boys said wait until your father comes home. BTW the only spanking of a girl I ever witnessed was in third grade of a blonde girl that the guys considered hot. Blondes aren't the center of men's imagination as so often depicted on the silver screen as Patty
matured she had fewer roles but she became stunning as an adult actress as flatteringly depicted here.
The name of the movie means The Black City. The mayor/City Council have decided that everybody in town should wear black only, for a reason and duration that I cannot remember. One inn keeper decides to disobey and wear cheerful colors, which is deemed treason, and she is sentenced to 100 lashes, in public, to deter all other women and youngsters to do the same.However, when the sentence is about to be carried out, the matron of the local School for young ladies and her respective pupils appear dressed in light colors, in defiance, and say: You old farts have no right to dictate this, if youre going to punish her then you will have to punish all of us with the same sentence. Since the class includes the mayors daughter, the secretarys sweetheart, and most upper class damsels, they have no choice but to punish them all, not to loose face, but in mock, mild way.
Things start with the run of what should be a severe judicial punishment. A beautiful girl is escorted by a group of men with severe gestures while spending amid a cheering crowd. The group finally stops and the girl is tied to a tree to begin the punishment itself. During the trip a group of women seem to want to disrupt the march of the girl and her judges and executioners, which are finally able to do, making this severe punishment in just a funny parody, which seems to satisfy some of the men suspected severe upsets others.
A Fekete Varos mean (in Hungarian) The Black Hamlet, and the scene is taken from a Hungarian television miniseries of 1972. Is adaptation to the middle of a literary classic that country: the novel of the same name written by the author Kálmán Miksszáth late nineteenth century. According to a report I have read "... tells a story of frustrated love in a hostile environment, which has some parallels with Romeo and Juliet. It develops in the early eighteenth century in the village of loess, in high Hungary when the country was liberated from the Turks, but under Austrian rule as part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. " In this context, a local noble character assassinates a senior government official, and susesor of this sentence to the city to wear all black to death to be avenged. Along the way the daughter of the noble in question falls for the judge who replaced the murdered and that is the love story told in the film. The suspended punishment that the scene shows it is precisely to yore girl refuses to wear black, so the challenge to the authority of the girl group that burst on the scene is not alone in this break but also in the act to remove the black layer and put the recoated their colorful dresses.
The VII part the villain is beheaded and the black clothes are burned and everyone is happy except the man who is beheaded and one of the girls who was spared.
Sorry for the double posting of NYT archived story. From a review:
The main character Viscount Görgey shoots accidentally the Major of the City Löcse on a hunt. Based on old customs, the grounds of the Viscount are marked with the blood of the Major. The City headed by a newly elected Major Fabricius claims these grounds from the Viscount, offering a reward for his head, and the Towns Council decides: the whole town shall wear black for mourning the deceased Major, until the Viscount is not executed. The only daughter of the Viscount using an other name - is on the way to a girl's school in the City of Löcse. During the way she meets and falls in love with the young Fabricius. The story ends tragically as the Viscount is not allowed to meet before the execution with his daughter, and the young Major Fabricius faints, as he gets to know, who the daughter is
1971 made for television ends with the leader breaking a twigh indicating to the executioner to behead. The daughter reaction is in sharp contrast to the town square celebrating in color. First is the video closing. The second are the girls lined up.
The funny part of the scene is when they are lined up they bend over instead of standing straight like the one sentenced to the 100 lashes. They could have been birched in school. The first girl had no idea what was going to happen, of course the others then knew it was going to be a token stroke. The one sentenced has a brazen and nonchalant swagger to the whipping post. The last that lined up is the older woman as if she wanted to be hit to join into the fun. The birch was always the instrument of choice for judicial punishment but it might have been used in that school.
February 22 2011, 8:33 PM
A commentary on slapstick in 193 1. After World War II they said of the GI's you can't keep the farmers down after they've seen Paris. Marjorie Beebe had a taste of college in the days of the flappers before she returned as the farmer's daughter. Below is a photo essay of the longest spanking in a mainstream film starting with an enlargement of a previous post with fathers/daughters with video. She would be given higher rates outside that genre today. It's not an acting job after awhile. I'm transferring the video to this thread.
Tavi: Lesbianism didn't play a primary part with the nuns and your percentages are right on target, way less than one out of a hundred. A far larger percentage, I believe but nonetheless a few, were sadomasochists but a sizable minority were control freaks that used the same methods that were used on them without sexual gratification. Some felt resentful for as adults they had to conform and watch free-spirited children misbehave. We had no lay teachers like Miss Pearce in 5ive girls to speak of and my sixth grade teacher was a retired public school teacher and the only one that went a full year without threatening or hitting anyone. That proved it could be done.
Amy Clupak Lalonde's facial expression when she applies the stick to Jennifer Miller was identical to the "aperture" that you could see within the veil and habit of my eighth grade teacher who was a half a dozen years younger. She would chew gum in class and twirl who rosary beads in the air that hung beside her. She had bad teeth and I delighted in that fact. Amy and Jennifer were both gorgeous girls with the teacher being younger than the student. It was a Canadian B (some would say B - ) mainstream film and both girls have moved on to better movies.
The school corporal punishment scene is a gratuitous pornification without doubt. They didn't know what kinky meant in the middle 1960's in their innocence but some were definitely acting out. I do believe that lesbianism by nature or circumstance played a part but not when it came to apply corporal punishment I think it was more sadomasochism. It's interesting that films like Cheerleader Autopsy and Halfway House involve schoolgirl B horror flicks. Look at that face in the images. I remember the blur and the bending of the extra duty wooden yardstick and the sound. There was no acting there. The marks seemed phony for they were too low and visible. I know they're acting
but Jennifer's reaction is real and perhaps enhanced by acting skills with the tears as is Amy's sadistic glee shown below..
A follow up on Cowcatchers Daughter is this link. 1931 was one of those banner years where things that were occurring like fathers spanking daughters could be treated in a comical way without the intervention of the dreaded code. Marjorie Beebe's slapstick was commonplace fare. Some may say too common the war you couldn't keep the boys down on the farm. Human nature being human nature there was a lot of fun on the farm. I'll be returning with The Naughty Flirt mentioned in this forum quite a few years ago. I think by keeping films in this thread instead of all over the place will make it less annoying to those who feel these postings have fallen wide from afield.
Here is a spank statement (requires no adult content warning) review of "The Naughty Flirt 1931): And a picture tells a thousand words. Flappers annoyed their parents and their beaus but just at what their striving for liberation has brought is in just 80 years for weal or for woe. The picture of Alice White is for the promotional of the film. Her soundly spanked and tightly clad white dress with contoured contents soon to be rubbed would not make it through the codes. If he rubbed her bottom it wouldn't be shown in any mainstream film. Ironic isn't it? If his palm lingered too long it would be prohibited as foreplay. The review is as follows.
The spanking is good, but the whole film is well worth watching for its depiction of flapper cultureand misbehaviour:
Throwing a party in honor of her annual expulsion from finishing school, perky, well-to-do blonde Kay (played by Alice White) dances, plays the ukulele, bats her eyelashes, and gets thrown in the paddy wagon along with her circle of wild chums. And thats just the start of this story!
While at court she meets handsome young lawyer Alan Ward (Paul Page ), who by coincidence works for her daddys law firm. She falls for him, then pursues him like crazy but shes too much of a flirt for our serious young law man.
So she tries to snag him via the Cinderella Dance (girls throw in one shoe on the dance floor, guys pile on top of each other to attempt to find the shoe for their fave gal and get her for dancing and dinner later). But man crazy Kay is currently engaged, by her own count, to six or seven men. Alan, tired of her flirtations, puts her over his knee and gives her a spanking.
This is a lively romp of a film mostly good because of Alice White who gives an engaging, fun-to-watch performance. She is more cute, with her spit curls, big eyes, and pouty mouth, than a good actress, but her acting does run circles around that of her co-star, Paul Page. Really enjoyable, light fun a very entertaining film.
I have in the Blue Hawaii posted from this site but as usual the caveat. The clip ends on the climactic note
Aunt Agony columnist of the middle part of last century had a column letter box. She believed husbands should spank errant wives and that spanking of flappers right up to the age of 20 was fine. Think of those who shudder at 17 year olds being paddled should consider the customs of that day? That's the first link. The rest is a story that made a brouhaha in March of 1928. It's about a divorcee insisting on spanking her 16 year old daughter with or without court approval and with or without clothes. Her instrument of correction was an ill-advised clothes hanger. The trial attracted so many people the judge had to limit onlookers.
js666 posted this about the spanking incident from this estimable Forum. I'm glad that I can substantiate from archives that was rarely accessible in 2002 and that is considered by some to be germane to this forum. It gives a flavor to the media concern of that day. This you tube clip is for further background.
Alls well that ends well. Contrary to the last post, Lorene did get the spanking (palm and not wooden coat hanger) she thought she needed in spite of her mother's initial protestations to the contrary.
A sad loss to ALL of us-staggeringly beautiful as a young lady & never lost her inner grace, though some of her language when roused might apparently have not been postable on this forum!
I could quite understand why Montgomery Clift preferred her charms to Shelley Winters in Place In The Sun, though bashing Shirley over the noggin with an oar to get her out of the road was a little OTT!
March 26 2011, 3:10 PM
Its a Saturday so I have some time to post. I love the word delectation that Gale Storm uses about her spanking in the movie Stampede 1949.
Five years later she did it for further delectation on the small screen that I saw in reruns as a teen for my delectation. The amazing part of this story is not she but Charles Farrell whose career spanned (spanked) from the silent movies to television in My Little Margie. If you live at home a fathers right to spank legally even at her age even if cute as a button. Her Dad soon disabuses her of this notion when Margie's new boyfriend is a lawyer who convinces her that he has no legal right to treat her like a child.
A quarter of century before he spanked Silent Screen Star, Janet Gaynor as shown with Shirley Temple, oddly enough fewer girls were spanked then than in schools than by their Moms. My theory was it wasnt proper to hit a girl and girls acted more properly in terms of conforming to the mores of their time in school but they got in each others hair at home.
The lovely Janet is shown here with Shirley Temple who succeeded her as the American sweetheart. Farrell and I were born in the same hospital unless born at home 50 years apart.
Where the subject of emancipation came up and he quoted to states in My Little Margie, I looked up both states he mentioned and they had wording unlike any other of the other 48 states. This is not totally surprising but most states "copycat". The remnants of these laws are perhaps carry overs from 1954. Are laws like this enacted locally in the UK or not at all?
To my knowledge birthday spankings were not common in our country seventy years ago so it might be more a coming of age like the Polish do as a rite of passage where age played an important role in the movie. Even the expression eighteen paddles seem awkward as if it were an idea as opposed to tradition. Girls were expected to conform and there was never of surfeit of rebels from the flappers of Post-World War I to the days of WWII where women stepped to the plate with jobs outside the home while the men served their country. The news always took an inordinate interests in spanking scenes. Hmm.
Frontier Gal had to pass severe codes of censorship in 1945. It would appear the filmmakers were very creative to keep that much kissing in the the movie. This movie was mentioned August 28, 1910 and is my favorite from the silver screen. Kiss Me Kate from the theatre and Bat Masterson from Brown Bombshell. They're disciplinary in nature, clearly adult and in public. They are partially consensual and soon to be seen as beneficial. The girls are taken by surprise and while initially shocked they come to their senses. It doesn't have to end in marriage or be romantic but end amicably. I'm reading into the commonality of the three different scenes from three different mediums. Most of all, they have to come from the age of innocence without titillation being a motive even if it is used as drawing card.
Taken from Blog: Some people may even remember their school teacher using a paddle (minus the ball of course) as a means of corporal punishment. Ouch!
Taken from TWP: PADDLEBALL: The only paddle not made by rebfs paddles, we had to really search for this one. A teacher friend of ours who teaches preK showed us her little paddle but could not tell where it came from since she got it from another teacher who left for a position out of state. This cute paddle is meant only for prek to 2nd grade and, because of the light and thin balsa wood, should be double or triple layered to prevent breaking. Even then, the IMPACT will be only a lite sting with no chance of bruising if used with just one or two pops.The measurements are 8x5x1/5 and the single layer thickness is an estimate. TWPfs rating is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED and who knows- maybe a single taste of this paddle will deter the little terrors from behaving badly in school later!
Picture after picture is coming from the studios in the present cycle of films showing stars or leading ladies getting their ears boxed and right well boxed, too. Or they are booted through a door on the set. Or they are turned across a table and spanked with a hairbrush or slipper. It seems that the point has been reached where no actress is acclaimed a success until she has been thoroughly smacked or paddled or placed in some humiliating and embarrassing predicament. All in the name of art!
Hollywood capitalized on this trend by advertising and interviews. There are few actresses that possessed the beauty and longevity of Corrine Calvet (bottom links). She was never considered an Oscar contender but her most famous role was in : "What Price Glory". I ferreted out this story about her brief marriage to John Bromfield. These stories abound, as do publicity shots of spanking but often the best photos are never shown in the films or perhaps were not even filmed. How innocent were the producers and advertisers? One is only left to wonder during Hollywoods heyday? Was it truly the age of innocence?
This beaver (Beaver Valley) ferreted out this story of a recipe for a brief marriage. Don't try this at home.
A timely entry with a wedding fight from a comedy from Russia. It's quite a fight and it is obvious that the he makes a change of clothes while the bride has a change of heart. Movies like this are more likely to occur in in North America and Western Europe but part of the world but Russia is a different matter. I don't think Femen would approve.
Forgive me for going off topic as I rarely do, but the heads of state not being invited makes eminent sense but I was puzzled by the exclusion of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown again I can understand the theory but that didn't make sense to this foreigner and it certainly isn't my business but their exclusion seemed peculiar. Would others agree?. There were no hard feelings from the newly converted to Catholicism, Tony Blair.
Some of the hardest spankings were inflicted on Silent Screen Actresses during the beginning days of her column. The lovely Laura Laplante films upon restoration will soon come out of the archives. I prefer realistic situations and common to their age. Later (IMHO)they became promotional and at times not even in the film. A woman wouldn't think of staying the hand of her husband. It was her lot. It was the age of the innocence.
Agony Aunts reflected the climate of the day. Keep in mind the confluence of Dorothy Dix the highest paid woman writer in America is the author of this and her writing remaining popular from the age of flappers to the 1950's. She was the Dear Abby of her day. The Dorothy Spencer Consensual Spanking Plan (mentioned here) wouldn't wash if thinking like this column was not uncommon. She advises those to spank their wives who like it and for wives to do the same. That's pretty kinky for the largest newspapers in the country. However, it was foreplay or discipline without judgment. Not domestic abuse or perverted. The key word was and is: "consensual". Dix's advice can easily be found by simply Google News: "Dorothy Dix Spanking".
Scroll down with second link and the question is asked: "Does corporal punishment aid a marriage?
HER BIG NIGHT (1926) The horizontal lady is blonde, beautiful Laura LaPlante, being spanked by John Roche, as an irate husband who thinks he's caught his wife cheating on him. But Laura plays Frances, a dead ringer for the gentleman's wife, and she's innocent of any wrongdoing. At right, Nat Carr tries to explain away the error, but gets there a little too late to save Frances' hide.
A genre developed around 1937 and 1940 with the show stopper that got everyone talking was a public spanking being administered to a spoiled grown up adult girl. There is a pre-war innocence about this. Women have not taken on responsibility while the men were off to war. Their job was to marry well or have rich Daddies. Like Otto Preminger the director demonstrates the scene. I suppose it passed code because a moral lesson was taught and there was nothing carnal in the censors POV. Footloose Heiress's Ann Sheridan is the star of this 1937 central scenes as Brenda Joyce in the Pub Deb no 1. The eighteenth birthday inheritance centers around a recently posted ping pong paddling of a group of playful teens. The clicks following the photo and video attests to the intensity and centrality of the scene. They weren't afraid of many takes from what I can gather at the expense of the actress. The two above attests to how long and painful the spanking was.
In real life a magazine letter to the editor reflects a father applying a paternal solution the his daughter's misbehavior not just the situation comedy of Charles Farrell and Gale Storm. The comedy was much later than 1940 but that was the height of spanking in the movie and the only way a man could touch a bathing suit area under the strict code. It gave me pause when I read silk pants the caress of a soft slipper that there was a hand of an impostor involved. There is an Anne Spriggle still kicking as of a few years back and not over her father's need who would be long past.
Star Tribune: Newspaper of the Twin Cities: Aug 7, 2006
She is survived by two sisters-in-law, Dorothy Spriggle and Anne Spriggle Nimerfro, ... Cremation services provided by Twin Cities Cremation of St Paul, MN.
Visual Compendium of Corporal Punishment
May 19 2011, 7:01 PM
A visual compendium of two dozen corporal punishment scenes linked below. Prior to the eighties spankings were not as sexually charged. The exception would be the Ribald Tales of Robin Hood that was an adult only movie at the time of the breaking down of the code when people could come to daring films like 1967 I am Curious Yellow or 1969 Ribald Tales of Robin Hood.
The Bennett family marked the end of the flapper era with the end of the silent movie years. They are not exactly the Barrymores but the three sisters did grab a lot of media attention. Fathers ruled the day when the mothers lost control of their own. With the onslaught of the thirties the privileges fought for became the rights not only through suffrage but the right to have a vote in the household. Fathers spanking 17 year old daughters gave way to to alternatives. The timeline of Barbara Bennett tracks this phenomenon. Sadly, Hollywood home life has never been a happy one.
Spanking with the Stars. Barbara Bennett was quite an item. She is shown here at about the time when she refused her spanking on the far right in 1923 at 17. The father looked like he would make a formidable spanker and would brook no defiance. And then she espouses the virtue of spanking as a mother in 1935. The last story is in 1941.
The Thin Man Goes Home is the fourth in the Thin Man series and just before the end of the war. It is hard to believe that Nora at 39. She started acting in the silent movies 20 years before in the days of the flappers. The scene reveals a bit of Americana with the woodshed and razor strop so much a part of the days when a father punished their daughters for breaking taboos in the days of the flappers. The new erogenous zone was the back in the roaring twenties.
In 1944 the code looked the other way but the rubbing of her bottom was daring. So often snippets have isolated the spanking scene from the film that stands on its own. Enjoy that repartee and sophisticated humor that endeared William Powell and Myrna Loy into the annals of the great husband and wife team in the history of Hollywood as Nick and Nora.
1955 was obviously the age of innocence in the midst of an age of censorship (Betty Page). Earl Wilson was consider a serious Hollywood journalists of the star.
New York Post Columnist Earl Wilson spanks French Actress Corrine Calvet in Oct.,1955
Anything for journalism - I always say. Over my knees, I belted her with my bare hand. She let out a lot of noise as she lay there, face-down.
"My powerful blows must have stung," I said, firmly and wickedly.
"No, Your knees are bony and I'm ticklish," she giggled.
This remarkable spanking demonstration was undertaken because Corinne'd been telling me she married actor John Bromfield because of his tendency to be a "gentle brute."
"Women need a good spanking from time to time," she'd contended. "I'm a difficult person to live with and I don't know how he does it.
"Johnny has spanked me a few times. He's always masterful in his spanking and I behave better after."
I was surprised that she admitted it--and seemed to like it--for my experience at spanking wives has been highly unsatisfactory... Miss Calvet said she would show me how to spank my wife effectively and I told her to go ahead.
We were in the suite shared by Corinne and her husband. He was out at a football game.
"When your wife starts to yell, you don't want the neighbors to hear, do you? she asked.
"Than you should be kissing her while you're spanking her, and that will keep her from yelling. Here do you want me to show you how to kiss her?
"I...uh...don't think we need to go that far," I stammered.
"Oh you're the shy type," said Miss Calvet.
But the French bon-bon then returned to the principles of successful wife spanking.
"When John spanks me," she related, "he comes over and picks me up. That's the correct way. Try and fight when somebody picks you up and gets your feet off the ground. You can't do it. Then I feel how strong he is and I give up."
Corinne said she's had long experience at being spanked.
In Paris, at 14, she decided to get "revenge" on all men because her first boy friend had told her, "Don't take it too seriously," and said good-bye.
She went around breaking hearts. One night invited to a bridge game, she came into a room filled with seven of her beaux who were angry at her for leading each one of them on.
"One of them grabbed me and spanked me, and the others followed. I was riding a bicycle in those days. Believe me, for the next week, I wouldn't sit down on the bicycle, I would stand on the pedals."
Her husband was next to paddle her.
Miss Calvet is quite frank in saying that she trapped him - "Do you think any man ever gets married without a woman who traps him?" After she found out he was a type she couldn't fool.
When she finished the lecture, Miss Calvet said I could come up and spank her any time.
"Spank me in person, but not in your column."
July 1 2011, 9:06 PM
Why were the 1940's the height of spanking in the movies. Boys thought about girls that were inaccessible because of their military commitments. The pinups and the USO performances provided some solace. The dropout rate for high school would lower the number of teenage girls who were enrolled in high school would be on the receiving end of school corporal punishment although legal just about everywhere a lot less. Girls were rarely hit when I was in school 45 or so year's ago but they seem to be hit a lot more with equal rights.
Paulette Goddard Spanked in Reap the Wild Wind is one of the most famous scene of the 1940's.
Raymond Walburn is the loving pater who takes on his two wayward daughters. Four woman spanked spanked by three men!!! Girls like Mimi Chandler were not exempt from the paddle in California (remember Representative Bobbi Fielder) during the war years nor were they considered too old for a sound spanking over their father's knee. These scenes were altogether plausible. A boyfriend and a father spanking side by side. It Could Happen was a song from that show. 16 year old Mimi Chandler's father was a US Senator from Kentucky; she played the part of a sister to Diana Lynn who played against Ronald Reagan in Bedtime for Bonzo, his most embarrassing moment even more than Iran/Contra. Eddie Foye Jr. spanks the star singer Betty Hutton.
Sonny Tufts is the 6ft 4inch guy that took measure of Betty Hutton's anatomy. I left this image out and am curious to see what thread it comes under. I am using Safari. I know nothing about computer but would staying on a thread for an hour could lead to redirection.
Put under proper thread here. Haven't had thread switching issues still..
In place of a blurred you tube this is much better. It's an acquired taste on the Fourth but this movie on the bottom corner shows a piece of Americana. The stage father has two 16 year old thespians over his knee. The scene can be fast forwarded to 1:30:00 or seen in context.
Many overseas may be unaware of how uptight Americans were about morals in movies. "Blow Up" in 1966 was my first adult movie I went to a few years later. Not because of my age but because of how few passed the censors. Partially due to Gillian Hills age this 1959 movie "Beat Girl" was considered verboten.
Are there any Catholics out there? In seventh grade Confirmation we had to raise our right hands and swear to abide by the Legion of Decency. At 12 years old it was about the furthest thing from my mind. Those nuns really did a number on me.
Roger Vadim was not well received in Hollywood at that time. He was playing with fire when it came to young girls. It would not be mainstream given her Gillian's age even today. No one deserved a spanking more than young Jennifer (Gillian), clearly way out of control, The photo of film father David Farrad is a promotional only and the video is readily available on youtube.
Thanks to the movie censors actresses were more likely to be spanked than kissed. It is understandable that publicity stills would sell spankings that didn't happen to sell tickets but news stories always talk about actresses spankings that must have never made it to the screen. Piper Laurie getting forgiving Tony Curtis giving her a much too realistic spanking in The Prince of Thieves never made the cut. That among others is mentioned in the below click.
Film heroes spank their heroines August 11, 1952 Hollywood used to feel it would be bad taste to spank a movies star. But now the movie bigs feel just turn a glamour girls over on the lap of a leading man and watch the box office zoom.
Incredibly Marjorie Beebe, of Cowcatcher's fame, dropped off the face of the planet from about the age of 40 without even a mention from the town newspaper of Encino California in 1983. Since 1983 people searches have become so commonplace but just a quarter of a century ago someone of her stature can pass without a trace. The age of slapstick with Buster Keaton and Charlie Chaplain is making a modest comeback. Margie was the girl next door with a comedic appearance and timing of a Lucille Ball. Look at the attention she is getting now. Although a tomboy the first link shows another side.
'Hot News Margie' is found in the last three links. IMHO she represents a form of acting that has too often gone unappreciated.
Will never be allowed 75 years I said of the sound hairbrush spanking of the 12 year old Edith Fellows who passed at the age of 88 last month. Like many child stars they have their ups and downs playing brats well beyond their childish years. Children cannot be spanked that hard and teenagers getting spanked for publicity are a thing of the past.
At time through serendipity research on corporal punishment I glance upon something irrelevant to corporal punishment but relevant to our times that I feel compelled to share. Please indulge my diversions from topics. There is nothing new about the marital turmoils of movie stars in the days of yore.
The Czech ways are not our ways. In a simple family fairy tale a story unfolds that would not be as innocently viewed today. Granted, it was 1977 but as we have heard from Melbourne, they do things differently there.
Honza málem králem (1977)
The six minute video without subtitles is not as hard to follow with the help of the english synopsis found in the first link. The second link shows the uppity princess before his last wish is fulfilled and she has one of the most humiliating public spanking scenes in cinema history. His last wish: Princess folded over his knee and spanked her "Twenty-five to bare." Well, she almost got it on her bare. In an interview actress spoke of the many takes and that her bottom was crimson and blue.
The beautiful princess is Jorga Kotrbova and the man who tames her is George Korn.
The Rock Hudson estate opened a collage featuring the Irish filming of Captain Lightfoot. The penultimate link shows the iconic spanking scene in Spanish. I have broken down a series of pictures starting with the saucy and haughty Barbara Rush going through all the stages of being tamed.
A piece of Americana are the silent films. 1925 and 1927 films employ the power of paternal persuasion in an era when father's razor strops and mothers hairbrushes ruled the day. The paternal reaction to flappers was made clear to any moviegoers of their day.
Silent Films 1925 "Don't" with Sally O'Neil. Type Don't in Keyword on Granger Site.
They're never too old to be spanked. Dan McFadden lays down the law simultaneously with a hair brush when his daughter violates parental rule. Charlie Murray, Edna Murphy and Aggie Herring in the coming First National Picture, "McFadden's Flats."
Roots of Heaven. The picture had a serious theme and didn't spare expenses. The first link is an interview with the French author, Romain Gary. Juliet Greco played the female lead but Bridget Bardot was considered. In light of Bardot's subsequent interests her role would be very prescient indeed.
It was a Christmas film for 1958 and with buckshot in the posterior of a man and a spanking of a woman the movie brought comic relief to a serious subject (read first link by Romain Gary. The second and third link include the spanking references that I'm sure in 1958 was considered somewhat shocking. I'm not sure but the public humiliation part might have involved a bare bottom spanking to highlight the target of the pachyderms as did the 12 spanks administered correlating to her boasting of her 12 conquests in the video. It's a brief glimpse but the contact point would appear to be unobstructed while abiding the Hays Code censorship. It's the last link.
The second containing the excellent quality spanking scene worth a closer look to revisit (first post Feb. 25, 2009) whether it was on the bare. I have watched the film in the early seventies on television in black and white and found it too long and slow.
1940 was not all that innocent when an audience enjoyed a woman being spanked by her husband. I don't think it was a publicity stunt although it captivated more or near as much newspaper inches than any spanking even Kiss Me Kate a decade later.
The most famous spanking on Broadway
When Barrymore got his bride a role in a 1940 play, ''My Dear Children,'' the most photographed, talked-about scene occurred when he held her in his lap and spanked her.
Elaine Barrie, 87, Dies; Married Barrymore
By DOUGLAS MARTIN NYT
Published: March 04, 2003
A too realistic spanking not in accord with the script. This did not delight the audience. Shame on them.
Ellen Drew at 25 was well beyond the she of spanking but in the screwball comedies that seem to skirt the Hays Code censorship. Ginger Rogers could be given a spanking in skimpy attire in the pre code days. As I reviewed this video I noticed something that might have escaped your eye, but for a girls skirt to be so tight, as to bounce on impact, in her predicament must have been considered risque and perhaps if it didn't occur at the end with its pun intended and with a lady present it might have been another story. Few come as lovely in the next link.
You say above with regard to your linked picture here:
Could you imagine a girl having her skirt lifted for a school spanking? !930 anything goes. It's a movie still, But still.
Hmm, clearly you were somewhat shocked at the idea, so much so that you substituted an exclamation mark for the 1 in 1930.
It might be unthinkable on your side of the pond but I fear that a great many girls encountered it here in the UK and a lesser but still very considerable number of boys witnessed it happening to their classmates. And somewhat later than 1930!
It certainly occurred in the Junior (to age 11) school I attended. At least two of my very esteemed fellow contributors have posted accounts from their own Junior school days (rather later than mine), one on the receiving end of the technique and one having witnessed it happening to one of his classmates. In both those cases a slipper (rubber soled sports shoe) was the implement of chastisement.
In addition there are a great many accounts in this Forum of girls being subjected to this when being caned, both in the UK and elsewhere. School life was tough in the old days!
Re: That skirt lifting!
November 6 2011, 11:45 AM
Autumn (Fall) 1957, age 7, north-west London.
November 6 2011, 12:12 PM
There was no one in my mother's generation born 1918 on this side of the pond that this skirt lifting experienced happened to. I thin it was meant to be somewhat salacious. She would have been about the age of the girl in the picture plus or minus. You often write about bottle green knickers and that too has always fascinated me. I must have been born on the wrong side of the pond born 1950.
Re: Barrymore Spanking Revisited
November 19 2011, 7:18 AM
Last two links Paula Wirth and the theatre. Spanking and the law in the USA on marital disputes was far from a clear matter with judges of varying thoughts. Domestic abuse laws were years away. Thanks to a good advice I will post the largest of a gazillion images of the first link.
At 14 there were pictures of Judy Garland in the 1947 Life Magazine sorority thread wielding a paddle on men twice her size. Five years later was this publicity still of a 19 year old Judy Garland being spanked by future director Richard Quine. All Mickey Rooney could do was to help hold her down. Mickey Rooney would fit over Judy's knee. The feminists cringe at how actresses were always treated as children even beyond their years. For a period of time in the thirties it became such a staple of motion pictures it became a rite of passage. Some Hollywood stars stood up to the producers and directors instinctively aware they were being asked to do things they knew had nothing to do with their profession. This must have been even more evident when asked to pose for publicity stills. Babes on Broadway started the 1942 New Years with a needed distraction during hard years that laid ahead.
This entry was referred to from CP Lighter Moment thread December2, 2011 as an old schoolboy pranks involving a tack (sharp like sophomore study period compass). Ida Lupino came to mind as her lookalike who together escaped the yard sticking in front of class. Dr Macro's images are top notch as are the pre-code film First Affaire (1932). Out of deference to the UK readers I posted the penultimate link and the last of course is in the spirit of the season.
Perhaps the most painful administering of corporal punishment on film is by a bookish professor to a Latina bombshell. Estelita Rodriguez was not to passively submit to Robert Clarke's vigorous spanking. Last link is the video of 1951 Fabulous Senorita. Films were often promoted by posters with sex appeal as in the next two links.
Actor Grant Withers first marriage was to the devout Roman Catholic Loretta Young. Five years before she and Clark Gable gave birth secretly to Judy Lewis who died at 76 this week. Withers fifth wife was a brief one to Estelita Rodrigues. Shortly there after he took his own life.
Jenny Maxwell, who played the spoiled girl in the movie, has some painful memories. The story goes: Hal Wallis production demanded her to throw herself into the see to get drowned in a scene that involved Elvis saving and spanking her. She was "hunted down" and spanked by Elvis four times. "He had to spank me hard to make it look good," said Jenny on the set of Blue Hawaii. She was rubbing her sore backside. "But my skimpy costume was wet and there wasn't much between Elvis and what he was spanking. It stung like anything." At this point Taurog calls for Jenny. "Now let's get Jenny dried off and on her horse." Then they went on to film horse back riding scenes for the next three hours over rough terrain which must have been difficult for Jenny. At the end of filming for that day, wind knocked a heavy reflector standard on the back of Jenny's foot. Nothing was broken but she was prescribed a cane for a few days for her painful bruise. She said, "The cane helps my sore foot. But it doesn't do anything for the seat of my trouble."
December 14 2011, 6:07 PM
She passed in Augusts fifty years ago at the age of 36.
Conspiracies theories abound. The comment under this video echos to a great extent my feelings.
Rejected by parents in childhood. Made to run from pillars to post in foster homes. Surrounded by selfish friends and acquaintances who wanted either to spy on or use her. Exploited by studios and producers. Ignored by husbands. And ultimately killed by Government. You lived a short but very tough life. I can not but salute you Marilyn because I mostly found you smiling or laughing in photos.
Translated amusedly admittedly by a French translation to English.
On the theme of cowboys and Indians, largely reworked since the dawn of time (after 1492 though), spanking has fueled and continues to feed the proposed options to directors in Hollywood. I do not remember, however, you have suggested in "The World of spanking" correction imposed by the wonderful Clark Gable to Maria Elena Marquez in 1951 when the film "Beyond the Missouri." In the great American West and elsewhere, women were considered as older children and the fate reserved for them when they exceeded the bounds of education like that at the time gave the smallest. Often they are spanking in due form, in the disciplinary position the best known and most spectacular. So lying on the knees or thighs instead of their partners and yet they received corrective spanking and none of them is offended, quite the contrary. Found in ancient literature scenes of marital and masterly corrections inflicted great women and the explosive mix of punishment rather reserved for children and administered the greatest contribution to the eroticization of an act of self-punishment. William A. Wellman reproducing the scene comforted the many moviegoers love crazy spanking in their certainty of spanko. There is no better outlet for our companions a good spanking to exorcise their old demons ... Maria Elena Marquez is experienced burning for wanting to leave the man to whom she seemed to promise.
December 20 2011, 1:43 AM
Just a follow up on Clark Gable. Joan Crawford of Mommie Dearest did not escape the pre-code spoiled brat spanking era of the 1930's.
A brief synopsis of Forsaking All Others 1934 starring Clark Gable and Joan Crawford.
Five and Ten Is That Dignified? It stars Marion Davies is pre-code and from the era of the early talkies. I don't even think many people even know about this video. I am sure it will soon be discovered.
Love, Honor and Obey movie. Priscilla Lane picture with sister adjacent in 1938 story about punctuality received a spanking with a twist. Why? There is some assertion on her part as noted by a reviewer Throwing the book at him. They both emerged with a new found respect for each other after the fight. Not at home but by professional like many actresses of that genre of film she found herself on a 47 blow (audible) spanking; as often is the case it played a central role and ended a movie on a "loving note."
Love Honor and Obey. October 9, 2011. Footloose Heiress was presently shown and October 26, 2011.
Priscilla Lane had no stand in and was described according to Daniel Bubbeo's book entitled" The women of Warner Brothers: the lives and careers of 15 leading ladies. The spanking has been described as the longest spanking given in a mainstream (non-adult movie). She was a trouper and wouldn't allow a stand in. I'm sure she was left standing for awhile.
Here is a well written article about Jean Arthur as More Than A Secretary in the first link. There was a time when principals and coaches were more often male than female so corporal punishment often involved men paddling boys and not girls. As woman asserted their rights there was more parity. One is left to wonder prior to the code, how women outside stereotypical roles would be portrayed on the silver screen? Rather than have the cliche hero physical taming the heroine here is a comical scene not of that genre with Jean Arthur spanking Dorothea Kent in the second link followed by an image. It is rare indeed to have a mainstream movie having someone other than a daughter being spanked by their mother. It was always the male boss spanking beautiful female office worker so this is refreshing.
Roman Polanski weirder films included Cul-De-Sac 1966. The reruns were shown at foreign film theaters that had an air of sophistication and were popular far at colleges. All male colleges with sister schools were common and my classmates would find time on weekends to enjoy them. I remember Belle Jour with
Catherine Deneuve was on my short list. I knew that Polanski films were the rage but was unaware that she had a sister a year older, Francoise Deloreac. Sadly she died in a car accident with her Renault 10 in 1967 a year or so after Cul-De-Sac at the age of 26. Francoise we barely knew ye. I would love to do a tear emoticon but I'm not a cry baby. I own two Renault Le Car half a lifetime ago.. They had great front wheel drive and had great acceleration in the lower gear. To paraphrase Bette Midler. That's enough about me now tell me what you think about me.
This is a walk down memory lane Hollywoods early years where spankings were just about a part of every romantic comedy. Maybe young couples needed powers of suggestion as dancing was a vertical expression of a horizontal desire one leaves to the imagination what was spanking. Two avenues leading to the same destination. The showing of a train during those delicate moments was a common cinematic technique. Dancing around censors proved to be challenging. Obviously it's a pitch to buy but you have a generous sampling. N.B. the clever word: "Scarlethill"
A Dangerous Method: Michael Fassbender and Keira Knightley. A follow up on your TV Tonight. Keira Knightley. September 17 2011 at 2:49 AM. It should be noted that a play Talking Cure pre-dated the film and is reviewed prior to the film review. The penultimate link gives details about the making of a critical scene. It is not gratuitous and like the film Secretary it was central to the story. The last link is these iconic scenes. It should be noted that school corporal punishment does not involve any touching between a man and a girl without paddle between them and the flesh and happens when the recipient is fully clothed. It is true a girl thinks of the male paddler as a father figure but it does not mean that either are receiving arousal or carnal pleasures.
Dame Elizabeth Taylor in the 1950 film, Father of the Bride, raises the question was it filmed and later deleted or was it simply a publicity still? This first link snippet (Dorothy Kilgallen) would seem to imply that it was filmed. 1950 the censors were on the loose so who knows?
Like Kiss Me Kate the iconic spanking scene appears often when searching POSTRIZINY. The popularity of the film is attested by the play even as of recent vintage. The movie takes some takes while plays can go on and on. The Czechs seem more likely to use stick like objects as in their Easter Monday rituals.
Perhaps the loveliest and of the one of the harshly spanked girl in 1941 Hollywood. The fiery Elena Del Rio was hoisted by her own petard much like the the students who make their own paddles in the . What would happen if they went on strike in wood work?
One can only wonder what guys were thinking when they were watching this with the girlfriends or wives by their sides. Perhaps more interesting the woman. I can only imagine what their conversations were about on their way home.
Here is a peculiar one of a girl begging to be spanked. Gene Autry defers the honor to a happy butler who is most happey to oblige to spank a rich spoiled brat played by Virginia Dale in The Singing Hill 1941. None of the handsome men she hoped with give her the spanking she begged for but the butler played by the English actor Gerald Oliver Smith. It may be more than a ranch custom but a dreaded 21st birthday spanking. Obviously more than what she bargained for or a real shellacking. She wanted to put aside her privilege of rank but maybe got more than she bargained for.
From Hollywood to France there is a quantum leap in the world of cinema. Spanking is either an act of foreplay or an act of aggression. It is rarely a battle of the sexes leading to reconciliation. That scenario charmed the male censors and I believe made spanking more acceptable. France was not handcuffed so they had the liberty to portray spanking in a more realistic manner.
This amusing vignette of girls having their bottoms warmed and then cooled in the chilly waters of Bretagne is pure French. After a while the spanked six some sound like the seagulls. vos-gueules-les-mouettes means shut up seagulls. The movie has portions shown of greater length in you tube. French cinema is an acquired taste and it is not my cup of tea and probably will never be.
The third click resembles a vintage postcard from what I believe to be from that area once available on ebay. It has an artistic quality I find attractive. The sites may be adult if you navigate them but not so the material proffered. There is a quick flash of female dorsal nudity that may explain why daily motion affixes a family filter.
Hi American Way. Your last link above gives 403 Access Forbidden. You need to have visited the home page of the blog concerned and have the relevant cookie in your browser cache to get access to the picture. You can't link directly to it. Never mind, here's the same picture on the Chross Blog. Cookie for visiting the home page not required there to see the picture.
May 12 2012, 8:23 AM
You need to have visited the home page of the blog concerned and have the relevant cookie in your browser cache to get access to the picture.
No you don't! If you copy the link location to the clipboard, then paste it into the URL text box in your browser, then the picture appears without any problem. (Well, it did for me ... )
Re: Access Forbidden
May 12 2012, 8:50 PM
Hi Alan Turing,
You said above:
If you copy the link location to the clipboard, then paste it into the URL text box in your browser, then the picture appears without any problem.
An illustration of why diversity and choice are not a good thing, at least when it comes to writing universally predictably accessible web pages! Didn't work for me when, as always, I tried it as the first option last night. Still doesn't work for me when I've just retried it now in case anything has changed. If I visit the blog home page and get the cookie I can then access the picture by any means I chose, until of course I clear the cache.
Too many browsers and browser versions, too many browser plug-ins and browser plug-in versions, too many OSs and OS versions. Oh for those happy days of yesteryear when there was just Netscape and IE, updated once a blue moon, browser plug-ins hadn't been invented, and Microsoft ruled the world. But on second thoughts, no, perhaps not!
Re: Access forbidden
May 13 2012, 8:19 AM
Very strange, it still works for me, in Opera, IE and even Firefox (where cookies are banned unless explicitly authorized).
Incidentally, my captured URL includes all the viglink rubbish, but it works whether or not I delete the excess.
Forsaking All Others in terms of the time line is right on the boundary of the Hays commission. One has to wonder if there is some light Sadomasochism involved when women fantasize that Clark Gable takes a firm hand to them? Unfortunately, for some Mommy Dearest, Joan Crawford, receiving the hairbrush on films is translated into giving it in real life.
Christina remembers a childhood shaped by her mother's violent mood swings - one moment buying her extravagant party dresses, the next spanking her so hard with a hairbrush it broke in two.
Hairbrushes at home were wooden as were paddles at school but back then there were more than just paddles used as instruments of correction in the classroom. The wooden spoon may have been used on younger children in the kitchen but the hairbrush in privacy. The rhyme soon to be sung stick and arithmetic have been banished in favor of the paddle.
Re: Access forbidden
May 13 2012, 11:45 PM
Hi Alan Turing,
You said above:
Very strange, it still works for me, in Opera, IE and even Firefox (where cookies are banned unless explicitly authorized).
Strange indeed, and unless we devote more time to it than either of us probably has available we'll never know why. Like the fact that Doctor Dominum's corrupted link affected what we saw in completely different ways it is one of those many annoyances consequent upon lots of choice.
And you also said:
Incidentally, my captured URL includes all the viglink rubbish, but it works whether or not I delete the excess.
May 14 2012, 2:39 AM
An update on my Safari redirects. I have been disappointed in Mac 27 inch OS X. Nice screen. 54 days left in the warranty and they replaced the hard drive, logic board and magic mouse. Like new? It wasn't that good new. Let's hope it was just a lemon. Aficionado of the Apples sound like they are ready to swallow the koolaid. I will withold judgment.
May 14 2012, 2:57 AM
Add to that litany a new LCD.
May 18 2012, 6:07 AM
The Crosby family (common royal butler) was hardly a Leave It To Beaver Family and was replete with stories about how Bing was physically abusive.
Gary Crosby learns that instruments of correction are better than the hand especially when spanking vigorously and more so when the buttocks are hardened by ballet. Ronald Reagan's ex-wife Jane Wyman delivered that line with panache.
Holiday For Lovers 1959
U.S. serviceman Gary Crosby, who soon proposes marriage. Lynley loves him but passes on his offer. She'd rather go to college. "I may turn you over my knee and spank you," Crosby threatens. Wise beyond her years, Lynley explains, "You can't go around spanking everybody just because they don't want to get married."
A Holiday for Lovers. Sounds like a dirty movie. It would be a hard sell to make it through the gauntlet of the censorious code in 1959. But not so. The bride to be was 17 and an older boy was touching her bottom? It helps when your spanking your future bride in front of your in laws to be. As they say, don't try this at home.
The media handled it masterfully and sanitized that in a hurry. Now 70, Carol Lynley went from the cover of Teen Magazine to the cover of Life Magazine to the cover of Playboy Magazine in a flash.
Deanna Durban was the an enormous singing talent. First Love was pre-war but post-code. In 1939 she 17 and would be rightly depicted as a newly graduate from an all girl school in the film. Naughtiness was to be punished and niceness to be rewarded. The nice grils never finished last.
It is interesting that in that era the hairbrush was almost always employed as in the case her gruff portly uncle (Eugene Palette).
Her romance interest in the story is no other than Robert Stack who became the popular television star of the show: "The Untouchables".
Kathryn Grayson endured the most spankings ever in her long running Kiss Me Kate performance. Deanna had first dibs and perhaps she wisely passed.
As the above link indicates that after James (Palette) smacked Barbara (Durbin) with the hairbrush, his tie changes position four times before kicking Walter. They both may have not the same after that scene.
Durbin is now 90 years old.
Mai Zetterling Gets A Taste of the Hairbrush
May 30 2012, 4:08 AM
Butler Raymond Lovell rises for the occasion to spank the naughty but lovely Arlette, Mai Zetterling.
The e-bay photo captures the pre-imperious countenance on the soon to be spanked bottom. Dignity be blown.
It provides a comeuppance for her that makes for a perfect ending. If only if it could be in better quality.
Girl Shy (1924) is an enjoyable silent movie even bracketing the humorous scene of him playing a cave man to flapper. Dr Macro has done a service to the iconic image of one of the earliest "romantic spankings" in the history of film between Harold Lloyd and Jobyna Ralston.
You tube snippets are not as enjoyable nor do they stay up along as this tudou source in the third link. The "cave man flapper" scene starts at 12:30.
The first story sets the scene of the age of the flapper in the exchange between Chicago Judge John Haas and Anna Hoovey.
2 years before Girl Shy (1924) Jobyna Ralston played Foolish Wives for one of her finest roles of the silver screen and now available in good quality online.
In light of the recent marriage of Prince Albert it is good to look back on the history Monaco and in particular Carlota Grimaldi, Duchess of Valentinois. She of course was the late Monaco's Prince Rainier III mother and and his sister Antoinette who passed in 2011 at 91.
I love this picture. Everyone has a double and this one brought one to mind.
December 20, 2011. A quick follow up from a woman's point of view. There is a website called Taken in Hand where woman long for a Clark Gable like figure to tame them. Marilyn Monroe's fantasy is not alone when it comes to Gable. The end of Forsaken All Others is somewhat unique in that Joan Crawford symbolically surrenders control be handing him her hairbrush but is she gaining the upper hand by choosing to be the submissive. It's the Battle of the Sexes. Look into their eyes in the image and let it be the eye of the beholder?
Until the news search is resolved there will be a lot less posting from me and that might be good news to some. The last link has made me fall in love with a red head named Nancy Carroll. Her temper is dealt with magnificently.
Jack Holt and Nancy Carroll spanking in Water Hole 1928 Silent Movie.
She flaunts and he spanks him. With the advantage of the search function I would not have to access Spank Statement (usual caveat) in the second link for like the first advertisement there was another online.
There's still one thing I'm not sure about, though. In the scene where Conway spanks Eva Bartok, what is that little clown-like figure in the corner of the room? It's only seen once and never explained. I rewound the tape to watch the scene a few times to make sure I wasn't hallucinating. What's going on here?
The spanking scene image and video are found in the next two links. From 38 seconds on a dialogue closely follows the Berkeley Gray novel Dare-Devil Conquest the ending of the film found below the links. So many films end with a spanking and leave the rests to the imagination.
The term, Gorgeous, is reach for the ceiling, said Norman, as he raised his hands obediently. I might have known youd be as tricky as a dozen cats. I apologise for not giving you credit Hey! Mind what youre doing with that toy! You pulled the trigger once, but youre not catching me again.
This is not the same gun, said Nadina tensely. This gun has bullets. If you move a step towards me I will kill you.
He laughed, deliberately lowered his hands and took out his cigarette case. he flicked a lighter and applied the flame. As he inhaled deeply a sudden twist of his wrist sent the lighter straight past he left ear, and for a fraction of a second her attention was distracted. He moved lithely forward, seized her arm, and twisted the gun out of her hand.
Silly to try things like that with me. he said, as he clicked open the gun and examined it. Well, well! So you werent fooling? This is the real thing, and fully loaded. Dangerous little devil, arent you?
He pocketed the gun, seized hold of the startled Nadina, and sat down on the lounge, Her struggles were futile in his steely grip.
Laying her face downwards across his knees he pulled up her skirt and delivered half a dozen resounding slaps on her nylon panties. She was so surprised, and so outraged, that she even forgot to struggle and kick.
I promised to give myself this pleasure at our next meeting, said Norman, as he calmly readjusted her skirt and stood her on her feet, Not that you dont deserve something far more severe than a slapping.
Nadinas face was twisted,
You hurt me! she said, rubbing a small hand over her rear.
How dare you take such liberties? No gentleman does such things to a lady!
Agreed, Mademoiselle Borordin, chuckled Norman, as he smiled into her reddened face, But I am not a gentleman, and I dont think you are a lady. However, Lets forget it. I want to ask you a straight question now that the pleasantries are over. What, in a word, is your game?
She was looking at him with a new expression on her face. A moment earlier she had been indignant and angry as any girl might who has just had her bottom smacked by a stranger and a male stranger at that a male who was high, wide and handsome. The enormity of the outrage had been intensified by the fact that he had lifted her clothes But she was looking at him with wide-eyed admiration. he was so strong so virile so masterful.
It was not the first time that Norman Conquest had had this effect on a girl at close quarters. There was something in his personality some magnetic quality which ran with the speed of quicksilver to the feminine bloodstream. She could feel her pulse quickening as she feasted her eyes on his fine masculine features.
Kiss me! she said softly.
The most spanked Hollywood starlet?
August 17 2012, 1:26 AM
Can you Hazard (1948) guess who is the most spanked Hollywood starlet? She was 5 feet 4 inches and it shouldn't take long to guess. She went from silent film to color smoothly during turbulent times.
Four lucky men had the honors. Macdonald Carey with the first link gave her last screen spanking.
After the war her career continued and she was quite adamant about her views about communism in the days of the black list.
If anyone calls me a Communist, Ill hit them over the head with my diamond bracelets."
September 5 2012, 11:20 PM
The Saint Lies In Wait.
Le Saint Prend L'Affut translates to 'The Saint Lies in Wait' in English.
This film was not distributed in any English-speaking country.
Daniele Evenou gets a taste of old fashion English style discipline from Jean Marais.
Danielle had the measure of Dominique Strauss Kahn. I just knew. DSK is a man who loves the thing. Who has not been cornered by DSK?, "Says Danièle Evenou. Before adding:" It happened so many times next to the thing ... Well, he got caught once! " Rough Google Translate. "the thing"
The Female Animal 1959. The Female Animal (USA 1958). George Nader takes Jane Powell across his knee and gives her backside a brief but firm spanking, much to her surprise. It was perhaps best known as Heddy Lamarr's last movie. Perhaps because of the fame of the stars the censors looked the other way. Pretty steamy for 1958
Jane Powell looks absolutely fetching in her polka dot bikini.
The Female Animal 1959. The Female Animal (USA 1958). George Nader takes Jane Powell across his knee and gives her backside a brief but firm spanking, much to her surprise. It was perhaps best known as Heddy Lamarr's last movie. Perhaps because of the fame of the stars the censors looked the other way. Pretty steamy for 1958
Jane Powell looks absolutely fetching in her polka dot bikini.
Look, I hate to be pedantic (no I don't, I love it really ) but that is NOT a bikini. A bikini is a two piece swimsuit, usually of fairly brief proportions. Your first two links above are again to pictures of a one-piece swim suit. Or are we dealing with yet another case of two nations divided by a single language?
Strictly for the record, because it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this estimable Forum, here is the nearest thing I can find to a picture of Jane Powell in a bikini.
Critically Acclaimed Australian Film "Crawl 2012".
September 23 2012, 6:46 PM
The genre of the "scream movie" psychodrama never lacks for fans. Here is an example that involves a situation where debts are settled by spanks. This fetishists delight are often reported on the evening news. It is not as uncommon as some may believe.
Slim (Paul Holmes) demands waitresses Marilyn Burns (Georgiana Haight) to pay off their debts to him by offering their bare behinds for spanking (in one of the films more extraneous but no less compelling sequences. It wasn't a single incident for she said the last time should could barely sit down.
I am constantly amazed at the hard work which goes into your more comprehensive posts, such as the one above. But you do yourself a grave injustice by not testing them properly, so that people encounter links that don't work. I have noticed that I am often the only person who comments on your posts of this type. I hope I am not correct, but I fear that this may be because others have been deterred by duff links and ceased to follow them up. If that is the case it would be a great pity.
If I may presume to proffer some advice: When you have your contribution all ready to post use the 'Preview' button and test all the links in it. This is not infallible, but it will catch many problems and enable you to rectify them before posting. Really you ought to clear your cache before testing the links, as in the course of finding them you may have collected cookies which enable you to see a link, but which people trying to go straight to the link may not have, causing the link to fail for them. However this requires management to safeguard the contribution while you log in again, so best avoided without confidence in that area.
And so to the difficulties with the above links:
Your second link under 'Were Film Actresses Sexier?' is presumably to a film poster. The web master of that site doesn't like hot linking, direct or indirect, for reasons I've often explained here, and has a nice little animated graphic set up to say so. Whichever poster you were trying to access, you'd need to access it via the homepage of the site, or, as the web master suggests (he or she is apparently quite happy for this to happen) download it and put it in your own web space for access. I don't know which poster it was, but if you want to give me an indication I'll quite happily download it and display it in-line in the thread for you if you wish.
Your penultimate link is to an image which gives a 'HTTP Error 403 (Forbidden): The server refused to fulfil the request.' response. Again you probably need to navigate all the way through the site to the image. In this case the web master doesn't suggest the above solution! Although it is technically very naughty the thing to do here is navigate to the image, save it on your hard drive, and upload it to Google ImageMatch to see if any other sites have it that will allow access directly to it. Naturally having done this you should delete the copy on your hard drive. Again, if you don't know how to do this, tell me how to get to the image and I'll do it for you.
In the latter case, as you were discussing 'When Strangers Marry", possibly this image is the one you were trying to link, but as far as I can make out Lillian Bond was spanked in more than one film.
AL and Happy Family I did not post the movie image recently posted, though I knew it was much better quality of the Lillian Bond spanking. Why? If you haven't notice I have done what I can to not post URL's that are portals to sites that are unsavory. The Sunday summer salacious movies series on that site where the spanking image was found has not been just a portal but a source of less than savory matters and more so of late. It may not make sense but I am prudish in my own fashion; the Ukrainians courageous girls are the exception proving the rule.
Understanding the American Way.
I am fascinated by the pre-code films ever since I took the seventh grade Confirmation pledge agains dirty movies. Baby Doll with Carrol Baker was the naughty film we were forbidden to attend when I was very young. She and Jayne Mansfield were sleazy so they were turn offs. I loved Audrey Hepburn who was the polar opposite. I did see Blue Hawaii at the theater and the spanking scene made every girl with a bathing suit made me think of it. My interests in spanking has waned with age but not my love for classy beautiful woman in need of taming.
Understanding the American Way.
II would not be posting so frequently under "Steve's" initiated thread or ones I initiated like CP Lighter Side or Days of Innocence or Courage to Submit unless I did not believe that at least a handful were interested. Some directly or indirectly like TWP and Matrices have attracted a larger following perhaps (i.e. most definitely) on topic but I believe in a wide berth for such a diverse Happy Family found here on this estimable Forum.
Re: Understanding the American Way
October 2 2012, 12:31 AM
Hi American Way,
You seem to have almost solved your own problem with regard to the film poster (the third link in your October 1 2012, 2:43 AM post above, because had you linked to the image in the page you link on October 1 2012, 12:26 PM above, the link would have worked I think. Anyway, here it is.
Your October 1 2012, 12:26 PM post above seems to confirm that the intended 6th link in your October 1 2012, 2:43 AM post was a picture similar to the one I linked. Here it is again.
Now I accept the point you make about the dangers of linking innocuous images whose URL can be deconstructed to lead to dubious sites. But you can't do that with the image I linked last night and repeat link in the preceding paragraph. If you think you can I'd be glad to know how! Yes the site which hosts the image is slightly naughty, but you cannot get to that site from the image URL unless you go via Google ImageMatch. And anyone doing that knows what to expect and isn't going to be upset if they find a mildly naughty site! Plus going by that route disconnects them from this Forum and Network54.
October 2 2012, 12:56 AM
I don't believe it! I tested that darn poster link with every test know to mankind and a few more besides, and it worked every time! I give in! Here it is:
October 2 2012, 2:42 AM
This was the original picture from the sexiest that I posted. Does it work for you?
Works just fine for me. Could that blouse, or rather absence of blouse, ever have got past the US censors in 1933?
October 3 2012, 3:27 AM
Never mind speculating about 1933 censors. It would be nice to believe that you were not deliberately dilly dallying on your assignment from Renee. Whatever floats your boat. I'm not here to judge you.
Lillian Bond blouse coverage could have been assisted by a wardrobe malfunction like the lovely Mrs Alec Baldwin.
A_L Yoga is a great aid to rock climbing. Hilaria Thomas has classes available if you ever come here.
In Hilarias classes you are invited to experience the body-mind union that is yoga. Through dynamic sequences you will consciously play between states of activation and release, allowing for deeper body awareness.
Ah, so that's what all those attractive young ladies are doing in the bouldering sections of my local climbing walls!
BTW that's a nice car, but I prefer the view of it in the third shot (which I reckon was actually the first of the series). I bet whoever caught that model in the wind tunnel made some cash, the pictures are on over 100 sites!
October 3 2012, 12:38 PM
Lucky paparazzi got a windfall commission.
October 3 2012, 3:19 PM
Hi American Way,
Errm, shouldn't that be a windrise commission?
"Failure is not falling down, it is not getting up again." -- Mary Pickford
October 4 2012, 4:29 PM
Here is an addendum to my Silent Screen Spanking My Best Girl Posting from January 27 2011. Girls of a certain type were limited to little girl parts. She was born in 1893 and she is "infantalized" and rightly that is an object of scorn today. Girls being spanked make the headlines and more so if it is done by a man and the older the girl juicier. Theses century old films show too sadly how it is still evident. The twenties were seemingly the year of the belt for the boys and the hairbrush for the girls on the silver screen.
1919. Pollyanna. Even Pollyanna type get under your skin in this publicity shoot.
The spanking of the Flappers. Their misbehavior would be corrected in school fashion. N.B. paddle. Not far from school age. These are youngsters of college or a little over in age.
Buffalo Times. New York is discussing a police matron's proposal to paddle or to spank point blank, 21 year old caught doing certain things." Pretty big contract in some instances, "point blank" and otherwise. Jacksonville FL Times Union.
Caught doing certain things? Hmm. Right hand side just left of MONDAY.
"I'm a Cake Eating Man": "I'm a cake-eating man,/ Eat my cake where I can;/ I like a dapper flapper that shows a naughty knee,/ Who dances naughty jazz and shakes a naughty lingerie./ I'm there with my shoepolish hair,/ For I'm a mama-loving, cookie-chewing cake-eating man."
A_L The actual spanking is at that time but there is something about seeing it in context that makes it more enjoyable to watch.
In the Westerns the open land was "man territory". Women fell under three categories. The stuffy schoolmarm coming off the stage coach from the East ready to civilize them. Boo. The fallen saloon girls and the young snooty ones in need of a spanking on their way to becoming adults.
In the 19th century and early twentieth century stories male teachers corporally punishing girls often made the newspaper. There was no compulsory schooling and the lower grades were often taught by schoolmarms. Girls reached the nubile age in their late teens.
For most of the twentieth century it was just a matter of fact thing that principals were men and spanked both genders. I have often referred to this as the age of innocence. It was the Shelley Gaspershon paddling in North Carolina in the late 1980's and the hearings by the late Senator Arlen Specter that brought attention and more formal regulations
There is little doubt that in 1933 many grownup boys wanted to spank grownup girls. It became a rite of passage of sorts for a girl to make the transition from being Daddy's little girl to a dutiful wife. Many of Zane Gray's stories, like the Man of the Forests, follow that story line. The novel is online but there was no spanking scene in this novel. Taming a mountain lion and training a horse took skills that were not so easily transferrable to the more daunting task of turning girl into a lady.
The lovely Verna Hillie was only 19 years old at the time. She had a run in B Movies in the thirties and in her case B meant beautiful. She was a blonde but played roles with darker hair.
A_L The actual spanking is at that time but there is something about seeing it in context that makes it more enjoyable to watch.
I saw it in context, I started watching at the 21:00 you suggested!
And you also said:
There is little doubt that in 1933 many grownup boys wanted to spank grownup girls.
No, surely not! I can't possibly believe that! Why today nobody would even think of such a thing!
Joking apart, I don't know what the film's like, but it certainly had most beautiful posters. Your last four images are classics!
October 30 2012, 10:24 PM
Look For the Silver Lining 1949
Is this a record as the longest time an actress has spent over manly lap? On another day, Miss Haver slapped MacRae's face, resoundingly, through 18 consecutive takes; and on still another day, Mac Rae held Miss Haver across his manly lap for nearly three solid hours, while he tried to spank her to the artistic satisfaction of director David Butler.
I believe that spankings were a great attraction to get the customer into the theater whether there was or was not a spanking. Accounts of its filming in reviews was an extension of the photos that often appeared in the advertisements.
Spanking in African American Film. Juke Joint (1947)
November 17 2012, 2:02 PM
This brings back memories. I grew up in a neighborhood in which there were Black barber shops. The magazine (Ebony & Jet) were the magazine sold door to door as were black cosmetic products. Jesse Jackson referred to these times with a sense of nostalgia boor Blacks supported their own. Spencer Johnson the lead in the cast of Juke Joint became noted, for what I heard on the radio, Amos & Andy that is now held in low esteem for the racists stereotypes it spawned.
It is ironic that the black children are disproportionately paddled but with the exception of a former school teacher (teaching more years than TWP) our my fellow honoree of this estimable is one of the only members of that community that is an outspoken opponent to school corporal punishment. She fosters positive discipline that is often overlook. I doubt there would be any opposition to the Principal's use of the strap from my pre-parochial public school.
This was written of the film spanked Katherine Moore:
Her best role was in Juke Joint from 1947, about a wild child who always disobeys her mother, tries to run away to Chicago but the mother catches her and give her a spanking she never forgets - that is one of the most memorable scenes.
The story's so badly written it's hard to know if anyone realized the "bad" sister was being maltreated in the family, though eventually Mama will come around to sternly save Florida from running off with that rotten Johnny. Florida's story culminates in a spanking-fetish sequence with the borders watching through a keyhole as the screaming gal gets her fanny hair brushed by mama.
This spanking scene is unique as highlighted below. If you have trouble entering the site, closed since 2009, hit alternately login and the cancel several times and voila. The site has been featured in this thread before.
No need to access last link. Juke Joint (1947) is free on internet archives. 56:30 into the film is where the fun begins but there is a slice of Americana interwoven in this film that has almost been forgotten in cinema history. One shouldn't close ones eyes to the past however painful.
Florida played by Katherine Moore deserves to sit gingerly for six months considering the trouble she put everyone through. We don't know how long she spent over Mama Lou's played by Inez Newell's knee. Why waste your time with snippets offered by fetish venues when you can enjoy the whole film in quality?
Re:Spanking in African American Film. Juke Joint (1947)
November 18 2012, 2:43 AM
Hi American Way,
For the record I didn't have any trouble getting into the site in your last link in your November 17 2012, 2:02 PM post above. Straight in and watched the video with no problems.
But I was astounded to note that my greatly esteemed fellow contributor JformerlyJethro's cousin had a hand in the making of Juke Joint. I really didn't think that she would have been of an age to offer technical advice in 1947. As she was a pupil at the Samuel Southall secondary school in Worcester in the early 1960s she would have scarce been out of the cradle in 1947. Clearly a child prodigy!
However, there can be no doubt it was her, the technique is unmistakable!
Scene from Juke Joint (1947) Scene here in the estimable Forum!
Note the careful positioning of the spanker in the keyhole frame, and the centering of the spankee's bottom for maximum impact. That's photographic impact of course! There are other examples of JformerlyJethro's cousin's keyhole technique to be found here, and of course JformerlyJethro himself is no mean photographer. His superb series of portraits of Honorary Life Members of this estimable Forum, including a notorious notable candid portrayal of Brian ONC, attracted great admiration.
February 19, 2010 Follow Up
November 23 2012, 5:15 PM
Public Deb Number One 1940.
Things then were a lot different back in the days of the innocence. That being said, the advent of the talkies movies couldn't be indecent so stealth had to be used to work spankings into the storyline.
I wonder if such a lusty spanking would have been as acceptable Penny Cooper was not as politically unacceptable to the enforcers of the code. Also, I think they were able to push the nudity barrier because of the realism expected of Tarzan in the jungle. Sex sold and details of the filming of the spanking and promotional material probably reflect this. Or less attractive? Again color photo prior posted.
Panned movies are not shown in full so "grainy" snippets of the spanking scene are what are the only thing left to be seen. It was a film that was panned but made money. Why? Read the below link for its connection with propaganda.
Once you go over one man's knee another man is sure to follow. I have no clue where this came from but could be part of the seven takes of the spanking in Public Deb Number One. Maybe George Murphy's palm started to ached. Although that seems unlikely because she doesn't look blonde or 22. New
I hope all the links work. If not, please let me know.
November 27 2012, 6:38 PM
Lady Jane (GBB 1986). Helena Bonham Carter's first principal role. She was 18 years old.
Duchess of Suffolk drags her off to a gallery and flogs her unconscious with a birch. Though not particularly graphic this scene is still, well, a bit weird. But it is based on historical sources, though some say it was her father who beat her until she agreed to marry.
The Fuerher and Shmelling and Ondrakova. I learned a lot more about history than I knew before. I was vaguely familiar with it but I was in need of a refresher.
Follow up of July 16 2012 at 3:12 AM
1:32:00. Not just a snippet as previously posted. A spanking that late in a move is way overdue and who better than Anny Ondra to be on the receiving end. I wish it were subtitled. It was an early talkie but as funny as any silent comedy film. Watch it for awhile and you may agree.
Shows like McClintock 50 or so years ago could depict scenes that would no longer be considered family fare. Not so other parts of the world as exemplified by these two scenes of more recent vintage. I have deliberately steered clear of fetish sites.
Honza málem králem 1976
Jorga Kotrbova plays the role of a whiny princess. Just looking at her makes one want to take her down a peg or two. Czech genre second to none is the fairy tale. This princess found herself in hardly a fairy tale ending.
Jiri Korn is more than up to the task and gives her a vigorous over the knee spanking on her lightly clad bottom.
One of the most public spankings in screen history. It really is a family scene and probably one of the last of its type. Getting her comeuppance.
The coal miners daughter didn't fare as well in neighboring Kentucky four decades later. Loretta Lynn was whipped nine times by a teacher in the same afternoon!!! And another one armed teacher swung a red paddle.
More often than not public spanking of girls in their twenties but not so in the case of comedienne/actress Joan Davis who plays a modest and shy math professor named Jane Featherstone. The movie was also called Love Take A Holiday.
Three Girls About Town 1941 involves like She Wrote The Book 1946 a "team" public spanking as well. Janet Blair was half Joan Davis age in her first actress role as a 20-year-old. And a far more attractive victim.
Rawhide. Incident of Last Chance elicited responses about the appropriateness of grown women being spanked in a show filmed in June 1960. Since both genders opined I thought it might relate to the Westerns in the Age of Innocence. Were they there to draw males that fantasized or simply upset with the growing liberation of the sixties. In addition I have added better quality videos of the 1940's post war westerns that have been referenced here already. This era was after women entered the workforce for reasons other than to supplement their husbands' salaries
Anthony Quinn had a ruler meant for the hand as a school teacher in the last link. Academic failure cost him more when he returned home. Were there anyone that posts here subject to corporal punishment at home for poor grades? Are you all geniuses The film is completely you tubed. Other videos just the two hitting scenes.
I was in a restaurant and there was a gentleman there that looked just like the late Anthony Quinn drinking by himself at a bar. He was waiting for a gentleman to join him. I passed by him on the way to the restroom and with a closer look and his distinctive looks there was no doubt. He was drinking champagne. It was not Don Perignon but Cristal.
I posted the Natalie Wood/Tab Hunter switching positions. Some background of an image of Tab Hunter celebrating Natalie's eighteenth and Natasha's twenty-first birthdays. It was posted before but not within the book. Hit turf page 341.
A little background is in order. Jorge Negrete laments the fact that he is not Lilia Michel's father, brother or boyfriend or he would spank her. She teases him and says imagine you were my boyfriend then where would you hit me. With an invitation like that he shows her where indeed that place is. There are six smacks with three visible. He lets her know that is what she will expect while gesturing with his hands that it is better than fighting all day.
I guess her way of saying yes to the proposal was throwing herself at him when she calls her a girl a rude and naughty girl who deserves more of the same. She taunts him again by turning around and to do it but he says he is not her father (grinning in the background) or brother or boyfriend at which point she throws herself at him.
A romantic ending often means that the spanking happens just before the curtain goes down and the couples go home after the theater. We had drive in theaters in the summer where you left you're car only to buy candy, popcorn and soda. Girls on roller skates waiting on you at drive-in restaurants after the movie and then it was off to the water to watch the "submarine races". It was the closest thing to teenage heaven. The sisters of no mercy prepared us for any love taps due to improprieties as seen in the bottom link.
This reminds of what we called fighting a Mexican style in my neighborhood. I don't know if this is a cultural thing as shown in the below video. You put your hands by your side or behind your back and you alternate by giving your best shot until the other is knocked out or concedes. Not the Queensbury rules mind you but a great way to have closure.
On a lighter not perhaps 1927 was the first mention of a pajama fetish.
The pajama fetish still holds good. Ever since, in the blissful days before the screen knew it could talk, Olive Borden donned decorative late-evening wear for the Fox people, she has continued in the same garb.
Jedanaesta Zapovijed 1970. A walk down memory lane.
A good spanking scene in a typical 1970 brought back happy memories of my college days. You won't see a sexier mainstream film but If you find one be my guest. Actress Vesna Malohodzic typifies the girls of that age in this Croatian film. The actor is Dragomir 'Gidra' Bojanic. I watch the better portion of this relatively short film and with English subtitles I would have found it even more enjoyable. Be one of the first by youtube counts to watch it if you care. The video is followed by three stills. Vesna was 22 when she played the Lolita in the film translated as Eleventh Commandment.
Here is a follow up the film Our Wife 1941 posting.
November 3 2011 at 11:07 PM
Spanking of Ellen Drew in Our Wife was a subject of a story in itself and warranted a strange headline.. Quite a lot of details and one is left to wonder why does this scene capture so much of a story's attention.
The Spanking ff Ellen Drew Long Tedious, Procedure.
The more birthday spankings the better. If you want to see a lot of birthdays need I remind you that I have written before about actresses that live long lives after being spanked in the cinematic world? One of the better spanking scenes in movie history was when Owen Davis Jr. spanked the very lovely Louise Latimer. She died last year at the ripe old age of 96 and the shooting of the scene was 1934 when she was 21 or so some thought. However, that does not seem the case. She died at 60. So much for good luck birthday spankings and one to grow on. You can always find another reason.
Here is a follow up of my 2010 posting entitled Taming of a Flapper.
You said above of the dramatic intervention when the delightful Lilian Harvey was strapped down over the prison caning horse and about to have the 'naked posterior' clause of her sentence implemented prior to her 25 strokes with the 'no. 11 cane':
Pity about the pardon.
Tut, tut, and to think that I had you categorised as a serious researcher!
Seriously, may I please join you in congratulating American Way on an interesting find.
It would appear from the Wikipedia article you linked that in 1931 Germany the business hopes of the German film company Universum Film AG were very much pinned on this film to enable it to compete with Hollywood in the new 'sound' environment, which demanded multilingual sound tracks.
One wonders whether historical accuracy was given any consideration in these circumstances, and thus if caning on the bare bottom was actually a sentence utilised by the courts when dealing with female delinquents in 1814 Vienna? Or was it just a little naughtiness introduced into the film to tantalise the male portion of the audience? I suspect I know the answer, but it would be interesting to know if the historical records exist to resolve the matter either way!
I love the 'no. 11 size cane'. Presumably 11mm diameter, as often used for older schoolchildren in later years.
There was a 1955 remake of this film. In this list of cinema spankings the 1931 version is listed as C, U, ABT, which translates as:
However the 1955 version, starring Johanna Matz, merely rates a C, ABT.
Any takers to find an on-line clip of whatever CP there may be in the 1955 version?
Re: Lilian Harvey and Congress Dances
August 2 2013, 10:19 PM
Oh dear, should have checked first! As regards my above query on the historical accuracy of caning for female delinquents in 1814 Vienna an item on the excellent CorPun.Com Site may be relevant.
See this article incorporating transcriptions and pictures of columns from The Times, London, 3 February 1852. These relate, amongst a number of other sentences of CP in Vienna notified by 'Our own correspondent' on January 28, 1852:
Eve Demmelhart, for inflammatory expressions, 20 stripes with a rod and eight days' military arrest (irons on both feet), during two of which she is to have nothing but bread and water.
So in 1852 they were still giving female prisoners 'stripes with a rod' which doubtless equates to caning on the bottom. No mention of the 'naked posterior' but it certainly seems rather more of a possibility, especially nearly 40 years earlier when 'The Congress Dances' was set. Maybe Universum Film AG, whose early associates included the very well known Fritz Lang, were striving for historical accuracy after all in that judicial CP scene linked by American Way and so sadly aborted!
August 3 2013, 5:03 PM
Hi Another Lurker
So in 1852 they were still giving female prisoners 'stripes with a rod' which doubtless equates to caning on the bottom. No mention of the 'naked posterior' but it certainly seems rather more of a possibility,
Sadly I have not encountered evidence on this subject. The best I can offer is the erotic art of Helga Bode, apparently a German artist of the 1920s. She was prone to depict "women of ill-repute" being so punished in police stations. However, I have no idea whether these pictures were based on fact or fantasy. To find examples of her art, some with descriptions in German, just search for "Helga Bode" on Google.
Caning was used in the Habsburg army of the mid 1800s. The extract below is
Beyond Nationalism : A Social and Political History of the Habsburg Officer ...
By Istvan Deak Professor of History Columbia University (from Google books)
August 3 2013, 11:37 PM
The issue of military punishment is dealt with in detail in foucault's 'discipline and punish' which i have recommended elsewhere.
to American Way
August 4 2013, 5:18 AM
Hi American Way,
thanks for this, but first link dont work - google error page.
For uno - those Google Books links!
August 4 2013, 7:46 AM
Worry not! Assuming that you are referring to his August 1 2013, 9:09 PM contribution above my very greatly esteemed fellow contributor American Way's link will almost certainly work for you, you merely have to employ a little trickery:
Clear your browser cache.
Open the link in a new tab, you'll get the Google error page.
Without closing any tabs, open the link again in yet another tab. This time it will most probably work.
However, assuming that you got the second link to work ok, don't bother with the above, because the first link is merely a graphic depicting the text which appears in the second link. American Way is aware that Google Books links can be problematical in some countries and therefore often provides both formats. Hope that helps!
August 4 2013, 8:19 AM
Thank you for your timely reminder regarding the merits of Michel Foucault's 'Surveiller et punir'. Foucault looks to have been a cheerful chap, and I fully intend to read the book one day. Of course, it will have to be in the original French, and sadly languages were never my strong suite. Despite my very best efforts I am still barely competent in English, let alone French, so there's still some way to go!
August 4 2013, 12:32 PM
Hi Another Lurker
I fully intend to read the book one day. Of course, it will have to be in the original French,
In which case , mon cher ami, you will need need a copy of the Editions Gallimard 'Surveiller at punir:naissance de la prison ' published in '75, . The best translation is the Sheridan edition Peregrine Books editions in 77/79/82 . I would seriously suggest that you avoid the first 30 pages or so, or certainly don't read them before you eat. I'm afraid many squeamish students never get beyond page 3!.
Well with this little lot and the complete works of the Marquis de Sade, let alone Lacan's commentary upon them ,............. and then the French have the cheek to joke about 'le vice anglais' .
I first encountered Foucault at 16 : so you have quite a bit of catching up to do .Of and if you find this a little to populist. ( it is one of his more accessible works), you could always try 'The Order of Things' or ' The Archeology of Knowledge' if you want to delve a little deeper into his epistemology.
August 5 2013, 3:11 AM
Hi Oliver Sydney,
Sorry for the delayed reply. Thank you for the note on Helga Bode. She seems to have been very much in a similar tradition to George Jackson Churchward, with very little known about her!
Many of the illustrations are familiar, but I hadn't previously associated them with one artist as her drawing style ranges from the very simple to the relatively sophisticated. As regards her 'judicial' punishments of unfortunate young ladies she seems to have a penchant for that double ended stocks thingy, regardless of historical period. All the way from late medieval dungeon to police station with box files on the shelves, same bit of kit! Bared posteriors do seem to be de rigueur, either actual or imminent.
Your note on Military discipline in the Army of the Austro-Hungarian empire was also interesting. Brutality gone mad! As the 1965 Hungarian film 'Szegénylegények' directed by Miklós Jancsó indicated, possibly the dreadful running the gauntlet punishment wasn't confined to military personnel.
August 5 2013, 2:55 PM
Hi Another Lurker
Thank you for your latest comment. You said earlier:
Tut, tut, and to think that I had you categorised as a serious researcher!
My original interest in this forum was largely frivolous. I am deeply impressed by American Way's remarkable feats of discovery in this regard.
However, I have easily been drawn into the more serious discussions. The quest for truth and all that....
On that note the impressive corpun.com looks at JCP in 19th century Germany at http://www.corpun.com/dejur1.htm
It says: The Saxon Code of Laws of 1855 was one of the harshest in the German states, imposing between 20 and 60 strokes for numerous offences. Men were to be flogged with either (a) a bundle of birch rods 85cms long, bound together up to the middle, on the naked back and/or buttocks, or (b) with an 85cm-long hazel stick no wider than 0.75 cms at the end and only "auf das entblosste Gesass" (on the bare bottom). Women were only to receive the birch or hazel rod on their clothed buttocks.
Susan Sarandon Spanking Schoolmarm
August 12 2013, 5:59 AM
2010 Susan Sarandon as a schoolmarm could swing a mean paddle instead of a ruler. She is strong of body. Where is Moly Ringwald when we need her?
Susan Sarandon spanked the tour manager (dressed as a pig) with a ruler. I wonder what he did to deserve it?
Her Oscar Winning role as Sister Helen Prejean in 1995s Dead Man Walking was as breathtaking of a performance you could imagine.
August 15 2013, 11:14 AM
Blue Hawaii fans of that iconic spanking that fueled fantasy during the coming of age of the aged. Jenny Maxwell we barely knew her. She was a distant cousin of Marilyn Monroe. Since the The Wild West episode was the last television appearance in 1968 before the loss of the age of innocence, she never lived to enjoy celebrity status. She was not on the fast track to win an Oscar.
Jenny Maxwell's Last Hurrah.
The Wild Wild West 0411 The Night of the Avaricious Actuary
Still Found in the Photo from the link on the Dance of the Vampire Musical Site upper right hand corner under the image if you click you can find an expandable thumbnail of the spanking scene a long with other images.
It was during the age of innocences a real life mother wouldn't say her daughter, Patty McCormack, was still being spanked. If she were anything like she was in the film it would be not often enough. Nancy Kelly spanked an 8-year-old as hard as they were back then when mothers' hands were not tied behind their back by social services. She played on a live stage where she would be use to curtain calls but this ending was not a part of its production. It may or may not have come to her as a surprise but I'm sure it wouldn't have taken as many takes as many of the cast would probably have liked.
Advocate Spanking To Tame Flappers, Copenhagen. 1929.
The question of flappers and their privileges, agitated In a local dally paper, has had serious consequences for some of Denmark's flossy girls. Should flappers be allowed to be "out" In public places without parental consort after midnight?the paper asked. All the replies from the flappers were uniformly, "Yes."Tho paper next asked what should parents do to flappers who stay out late. The reply from tho elders came promptly: Spank Em. Oh, do stop that awful discussion," wrote a 16-year-old girl a few days later. I can hardly sit while I pen these lines.
The most spanked by performances was the grande dame of them all, Patricia Morison. What a wonderful interview at 98. Mature actresses should keep this in mind when searching for scripts where they are required to play haughty for a spanking might be in order. It just might be for their own good health Just ask Maureen O'Hara who turned 93 last month and never looking lovelier.
The amazing thing is that it would seem just as the heavy hand of the code was coming down upon the film industry it was only the spanking and the kissing that could occur just before the wedding. The Hays Code (1934) kicked in two years before and for the next twenty years Hollywood was handcuffed. Think about it, you couldn't have a violent death shown with even a hint of realism and you couldn't even talk about marital infidelities. Swearing and mocking religion in any fashion was strictly prohibited. The pin-up girls for the soldiers was the only venue for the guys to see the girls in any stage of undress.
The plots were such that you knew the bad would be punished and the good would be rewarded, In this case the bad girl is straightened out by a good old fashioned spanking. This must make the feminists cringe as she surrenders the hairbrush for the times he will need after they're married.
An adult site columnists, Jameslovebirch insightfully (IMHO) wrote:
In the first six decades of cinema, sexuality was a taboo subject, particularly in films made in America and Britain. Even mildly suggestive content was censored before a film could be released. In romantic scenes, sexual foreplay was restricted to verbal banter peppered with racy double-entendres. Scenes of kissing and embracing were carefully monitored and held to a rigid set of standards. And yet, a male actor could playfully smack a woman's backside or force her over his knee for a brisk paddling so long as it was played for laughs in a romantic comedy or western.
By avoiding any hint of overt sexuality, mean-spirited sadism or (God forbid) masochism, the movie studios could have it both ways. They created a type of visual double-entendre. It is left to the audience to laugh or leer according to their interpretation of the scene (and its subtext).
Spanking in films became a substitute for the sexual passion that could not be shown. The explosive, almost orgasmic, paddlings that occured at the climax of so many films was an acceptable and tasteful way to show the release of sexual tension that had been building throughout the story.
The censors never bothered with the deeper implications of a grown woman being overpowered and publicly humiliated with a backside beating as if she were a naughty little girl. The obvious elements of age play eroticism and S & M domination went unnoticed.
Roots of Heaven Shows Bare Facts of Spanking
September 13 2013, 4:37 AM
Roots of Heaven Shows Bare Facts of Spanking
A further follow up on my my last posting on July 18 2012
Roots of Heaven spanking was indeed controversial and one is left to wonder how drastically it was edited judging by the last newspaper link? Maybe there was a pre-edited version that couldn't get pass the censors. Madame Orsini's husband was played by the late Herb Lom who passed last year at the age of 95. A larger picture.
Said Video. The sound makes you wonder if there is a version where she is getting spanked on the bare as I mentioned before.
I know that this issue is of some concern to you. Just for you here is a screen grab of the very last frame before the shot changes and we see only the lady's face during the spanking. As the width of the reply column is already blown, exceptionally I am displaying it at 1000 pixels wide.
From this point 3½ seconds elapses before we hear the first spank. You may use your skill, judgement, and of course imagination, to decide what might have happened in that time!
September 13 2013, 11:29 PM
I did see this film years ago. I do not know if I saw it in the cinema or TV. From what I remember of it, the woman when sentenced to twelve of the best, that is what she got, twelve of the best bent over the end of as table, for twelve of the best with a cane. Not bare, but over her dress. Now is this my imagination running away with me, or, as mentioned there being different versions of this part of the film to mollify the censors. The term of "twelve of the best" to anyone English, or any part of the world coloured red, would refer to a caning, not a hand spanking. Also the film being set in Africa, it would not be out of place to assume the term used would refer to a caning. Now I am reasonably sure it is not my imagination she was caned, it making a big impression on me at the time, because I went to state schools where six of the best was the most I had ever heard of, apart from reading about public or boarding schools like Eton etc.
So can anyone else remember whether she was caned or not. Was the version posted earlier a version that would be passed by the censors.
Roots of Heaven. The mystery deepens!
September 14 2013, 12:19 AM
Fascinating stuff! I can't throw any light on the subject as I've seen very few films and certainly not that one. As you'll doubtless have heard, the term 'twelve of the best' is used in the dialogue of the YouTube clip that American Way linked above and from which I took the frame grab. However in that case the punishment depicted was an over the knee spanking, insofar as it was shown at all.
It is hard to believe that you could imagine a caning of any sort in the context of a film, let alone one of 12 strokes! Hopefully someone will know the answer and will report it here.
September 14 2013, 2:52 AM
Roots of Heaven now available with Blu-ray production. However well the spankee plays her scene I am of the opinion (perhaps minority) that the ignominy of being publicly spanked meant an outsider (acting community) and not Jacqueline Fogt was brought in and no screen credits would be desirable, especially if the spanking on the bare was witnessed by the crew on more than one take and perhaps later redacted.
I have a feeling that I saw the same version of this film as willyeckaslike. It was probably between 1972 and 1975, and I have this image of a story set in Africa with a woman being caned over her dress. I don't recall any phrase like "twelve of the best" being used, but I do recall her squealing during her punishment and saying, in particular, the line "Oh, this is too awful".
I can't remember anything else about the film.
The Roots of Heaven
September 15 2013, 3:18 AM
Can there possibly be a version of this film where Madame Orisini is given 12 strokes of the cane instead of being spanked but which is, apparently, completely unknown to Google? Very unlikely I'd say!
But then can two reputable members of this estimable Forum both imagine that they saw something that doesn't actually exist? At least equally improbable, and possibly even more so!
Hopefully the explanation will appear eventually. Meantime there is certainly something very strange about this film. Lots and lots of people nominate Madame Orsini's chastisement as their favourite movie spanking. But the version on YouTube, Metcalfe et al is a complete waste of time as regards spanking. We don't actually see a single spank!
So what is going on? IMHO smoke and mirrors! The suggestion, via the brief shot of the expression on a male observer's face, that rather more of Madame Orsini might be exposed than is actually shown, and the sound of the smacks. That's all there actually is. And incredibly those simple things have been sufficient to gain it a reputation as a great spanking movie!
But on the other hand, if there is a version showing 12 strokes of the cane .......
Mabel's Dramatic Way 1913
September 25 2013, 4:57 AM
Some of the silent movies are not online in terrific condition. This 1913 film Mabel's Dramatic Way at 6:00 is an example of a classic slapstick spanking.
Heart of the Rio Grande. Gene Autry, the richest land owner in Hollywood, is shown with Edith Fellows who if you recall was spanked as a brat in 1935 and in 1942 for an off screen spanking as a 19-year-old. Her dignity was hurt more than her bottom. You can watch it through 30:00.
1. THE BLACK MCGLOINSIn which Scott becomes involved with a larcenous Irish family because he has the hots for their comely daughter. (To be fair, the comely daughter is played by a young Stefanie Powers, so one can sort of see why the guy would fall for her).
This episode falls out of the cliche tree and hits every offensive stereotype on the way down.
(The McGloins eat potatoes. And they steal cattle. And are fond of phrases such as "Gosh and begorra". Yeesh). To make matters worse, Jonathan Harris as the head of the McGloin clan gives a performance of such over-the-top hamminess it's miracle the scenery didn't fall over, it was so thoroughly masticated. An out-and-out bomb. Avoid at all costs.
Constance Towers Kiss Me Kate
November 14 2013, 8:11 PM
Under Earl Wilson Column Connie Towers relays an incident where Howard Keel bribed the wardrobe mistress to forget her spanking pad for Kiss Me Kate scene.
As a director, Ford knew exactly what he wanted. "When I did The Horse Soldiers, I had to wear a very low cut red dress, a great deal of bosom showing. I leaned over to Wayne and asked, 'Do you want more of the leg or more of the breast?' He said, 'I've had enough to both.' I went to Pappy and I said, 'I can't do that.' He said, 'Yes, you can, you're making my first dirty movie.'
Avoiding key words and In the spirit of teach a man how to fish I am providing this source. Yumpu. The best compendium with film images in the movies can be found nowhere bette than in theses Shadow Land publication for those who share my interests. Click with the usual caveats in order.
Films. Across The Wide Missouri to Kiss Me Kate. Pages 19 to 29.
Geraldine Chaplin gets the ruler from her "Daddy" at 67 minutes into the film. Corporal punishment for bringing back a bad report card is not something that is altogether unfamiliar to some of the readers of the estimable Forum. At least she got a good grade in religion. One of my first dates was when I was old enough to get my driver's license and watched Dr Zhivago. With all the snow it was suppose to be a "make out" picture. As I wrapped my arms around her she said she just wanted to be my friend. Drats, I thought dog was man's best friend.
It's over the knee time for Priscilla again as the youngest of four daughters In Daughters Courageous (1939) with her screen mother played by May Robson as described here as who not being one to suppress her impulses, delivered a fairly sound slap on the most spankable portion of Priscilla's anatomy. Top right corner.
Referring to Daughters Courageous. TO BE SPANKED is the plight of all real stars these days since some Hollywood gag man found the sadistic stunt a box-office attraction. Here Priscilla Lane gets hers from May Robson.
In 1936 May had some practice as she spanked a much much younger Sybil Jason in Captain Kidd wrongly. Sybil passed a few years back and was friends to the biggest of all the child stars Shirley Temple.
I think I'm re-registered and hopefully won't have to go through captcha.
December 15 2013, 3:35 AM
Hello American Way,
I am greatly relieved that you are still posting, but I am baffled by your post above.
If you'd re-registered with Network54 I don't think you'd be able to post until The Management Team placed your new identity on the 'approved list', and even if available for duty they are not normally physically present at the master keyboard at the late hour of your announcement.
January 1 2014, 10:32 PM
Egyptian comic icon featured here is Fouad El-Maohandes. Think of Jerry Lewis.
The reality in Egypt is interesting. Of course not only t have they Islamic commandments to deal with , but the remnants of British empire which includes the public perception that a teacher who doesn't use corporal punishment is useless!!!!!
In Egypt, 81% of children experienced moderate physical discipline (including being spanked on the buttocks, hit with an object, slapped on the face and having hot pepper put in their mouth). Over one quarter of children (28%) experienced harsh physical discipline (including being burnt, beaten up, kicked and smothered). Nearly two thirds of children (64%) experienced harsh psychological discipline such as being called names, being cursed and being threatened with abandonment. Moderate psychological discipline, including being yelled or screamed at or being refused food was experienced by 77% of children. Non-violent discipline, including explaining why a behaviour was wrong and telling a child to stop, was also widely used (experienced by 86% of children). The study found that rates of harsh physical discipline were dramatically higher in all communities than published rates of official physical abuse in any country, and that rates of physical punishment can vary widely among communities within the same country. (Runyan, D. et al (2010), International Variations in Harsh Child Discipline, Pediatrics, published online 2 August 2010, www.pediatrics.org)
According to statistics from UNICEF, 92% of children aged 2-14 experienced physical punishment and/or psychological aggression in 2005-2006: 68% experienced physical punishment and psychological aggression, 22% experienced psychological aggression only and 2% experienced physical punishment only; 40% were hit on the face, head or ears, hit repeatedly or hit hard. Of girls and women aged 15-49, 50% think that a husband is justified in hitting or beating his wife under certain circumstances. (UNICEF (2009), Progress for Children: A report card on child protection, NY: UNICEF)
There was always an attractive wealthy girl from the east or a Mexican spitfire. All in need of a strong hand to punish and/or protect. There was often a tomboy thrown into the picture for comic relief. There was never a lot of kissing and hugging so was considered family entertainment. Television was replete with cartoons and westerns. Unless a girl liked to be spanked it wasn't easy to be one in westerns.
That same year Joan Davis was no stranger to a televised spanking in an episode called False Marriage in the in-duplicable Cisco Kid she really gets a spanking. The fun begins with about 13 minutes before the end. Cute about the hairbrush covering more territory.
Reminiscent of this 2003 video. N.B. The customary five swats. However, it's totally egregious that the second girl, who flipped her skirt up, should get a penalty swat for having a beaver tattoo.
Not sure, but the intensity of a school paddling in that age group seems to be realistic. Tardiness was and is the cause of many sore bottoms. Students that were paddled would expect an equivalence in method acting in a film they spent good money to see.
And Then They Were Married 1936. Melvyn Douglas and Mary Astor are the lead but Edith Fellows plays a much more prominent roll in this film and show some acting ability IMHO. What a great line from Jackie Moran. She gets what she deserves for wearing pants. The spanking plays a key role until about 52 minutes into the film.
Another follow up. See last link for prior postings.
ALTHOUGH Brenda Joyce can boast that her role in Elsa Maxwell's "Public Deb. No. 1" made her the most thoroughly spanked player in Hollywood, she would gladly have foregone the honor. During the filming of the TwentiethCentury-Fox picture which comes tomorrow to the Regent Theatre, Brenda was spanked seven successive times by George Murphy, who shares the romantic lead with her.
For this sequence, Murphy was required to turn Brenda over his knee and smack her but hard. With realism the keynote, Murphy was both vehement and effective. "Incidentally, censors used not to let spanking scenes get past them, but times seem to be changing."
Davajte su posor (1990) English translation is Beware and is considered one of the early post revolution Czech films. I notice that in that culture women seem to be hit with the belt as an instrument of correction and in this case as an unconventional treatment for an unfaithful wife. Lubica Mrukovicová.
Martha 1967. This is a zany and decent film about a steamship and a crazy crew. With English subtitles I found it a to be a pleasant diversion. Here is a review. It's a musical and that makes it delightful in my book. Morten Grunwald spanks Hanne Borchsenius