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Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

June 22 2009 at 12:59 PM
American Way 

 
Corporal punishment humor follows. The second link was on national television so the videos need not be censored Dr Dominum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZBd_O1szmA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_iYmu_7zR4


 
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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 29 2009, 3:15 PM 

Mature audience. Was I right in posting this? I hesitated to post this for obvious reasons but there is a relevance that might justify it on the lighter side like Fernwood Tonight that I found just as amusing. Spanking in our culture has a bedroom context but the British vice is not the American Way. There is no carry over to the bedroom from the classroom unless of course your testing a TWP paddle with your husband.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYGflk81tnU

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 1 2009, 1:57 AM 

This is another example of corporal punishment on the lighter side. This was the position with chair from what I learned in the faculty lunch room about our principal when I taught. After reading about how paddling works someone may want to comment on how safe this procedure is? Today's disciplinary paddlings are usually three and not five so that was what they probably chose in number for the wheel with the luck of the draw.It was quite a popular program with a large range of dares. It might work over there. Her sorority sisters must have taught her what assume the position meant because there was little hesitation on her part. Thank you Joe may I have another. I'm sure after a few more she would want more money per swat. There was a bit of a pained look after the third sat but that could be my imagination? On a scale from one to ten what would you give that?

http://www.spike.com/episode/29710/st/2967983











 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 2 2009, 5:55 PM 


 
 
American Way

Stoning of a Young School Teacher

August 2 2009, 6:53 PM 

New York Times had this news story and sometimes you can get in and other times not but the second link tells you the rest of the story. The boys got away with murder. That's almost as unbelievable as the stoning. I post the NYT because some would say these things never happened. I hope you don't have a hard time getting into the New York Times. Violence is a part of life today but with guns we have Columbine. It's all so very sad. Sometimes I'm sad to say it's the American Way.

Corporal Punishment on the Sadder Side

www.canton.org/history/barstow1.htm




 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 21 2009, 10:14 PM 

you cant paddle me

Winona MO has a dress code published in their handbook that only allows baseball caps, cowboy hats and visors allowed at school. Caps are to be worn forward or backward only. Sunglasses are to be worn outside only.

This girl is hell bent for wood.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 24 2009, 10:27 AM 

The part time Malaysian model sentence was postponed in case you don't know. News stories are now calling her a supermodel. Thou shall not cane on an empty stomach. It's enough to drive the poor woman to drink.

kartrika caning

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 30 2009, 4:30 AM 

I think the graph and the image in the Spanking Lowers IQ link would highlight how indeed it belongs in this thread entitled Corporal Punishment Lighter Side. Maybe someone can walk me through computer corner where I'm sure it's been dealt with but I'm slow.

Spanking Lowers IQ

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Alan Turing

Spanking lowers IQ?

September 30 2009, 7:27 AM 

This is rubbish. It's a confusion between correlation and causation.

The researchers studied some children and found that a relationship between two variables. In itself, this says nothing about whether a change in one causes a change ion the other, or vice versa, or whether both depend upon some third factor which hasn't been investigated.

For instance:

Maybe some of the children were in well-off families, who provided good social support to reduce bad behaviour, and also provided good intellectual support to encourage IQ development?

Or maybe there was some other factor which had an influence? Who knows?


 
 

Doctor Dominum

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 30 2009, 8:17 AM 

It's Murray Straus promoted research and I'm afraid that makes it suspect. His biases are so strong and obvious that he'd been doing his cause a favour by staying away from it.

(Yes, I'm biased as well, in the opposite direction - but that's one reason why I don't get actively involved in publishing research in this field).

Speaking as a psychologist, the difference in IQ being described in this study is so small, it's within the margin of error. In other words it's meaningless. There are also the issues that correlation doesn't equal causation, as has been said.

And then there's the issue that when you look at the data behind the study, any differences that do exist may well be connected to other factors.

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Tanzania. South Africa. Guatemala. According to this study, they have the lowest average IQs. Frankly the scores for South Africa and Tanzania are ridiculous - it implies the average inhabitant of both those nations is - to use an old fashioned term for clarity - mentally retarded, which simply is not true (the reason for the low scores has to do, mostly, with the way testing is used in both those countries - if the only children you IQ test are those you think might have low IQs, you're going to wind up with a low average).

But on the other hand look at Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, Singapore, and most especially Taiwan - 'high spanking nations' according to this research - and also the most intelligent nations according to this research.

And why is Sweden so low in the IQ stakes?

Leave all that aside for a moment though and consider the implication if the research is write. Straus claims a 5 point drop in IQ at most.

That's statistically irrelevant.

The difference between a 102IQ and a 97IQ on an IQ test is absolutely irrelevant. You get that difference between two kids and any competent psychologist would tell you "Peter and Jane are equally intelligent".

105 versus 95 - that I'd start taking serious. 120 versus 110 probably means something. But around the average range, and that's where these large scale population differences come from - irrelevant.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 30 2009, 2:59 PM 

Dr Dominum: It's Murray Straus promoted research and I'm afraid that makes it suspect. His biases are so strong and obvious that he'd been doing his cause a favour by staying away from it.

The University of New Hampshire is considered a prestigious university. Is the University of Central Lancaster considered one? There is a saying here publish or perish. Does that apply to the UK? Who sponsors these studies and who tenures (my assumption considering their senior status) these professors? Murray Strauss has found a new hobby horse (domestic violence). UK feminist (Nicola Gramham-Kevan) has not made herself a darling among her own with her study showing liberated woman batter men in Europe. And just think how often do I say at the risk of spousal abuse?

University Central Lancaster

Murray Strauss Commentary

 
 
prof.n

C.P. the Lighter side

September 30 2009, 9:06 PM 



Hi American Way ,

You do ask them . ! Nothing more controversial than comparing universities in the UK.

First a piece of geographical /historical information. Central Lancashire is one of the new Universities ( Central Lancashire not Central Lancaster : there is a Lancaster University , I know it well but it was a University when Central Lancashire was but a gleam in the eye of what was then known as the 'Harris college' a regional college of technology in Preston Lancashire....which then became Preston Polytechnic and then in the 1990's University of Central Lancashire (UCLA)...so please don't get the two mixed ; neither will appreciate it ).Lancaster university is on a campus outside Lancaster. UCLA has a campus in Preston.

Next , The gradings of New university staff in England ;-

Lecturer/Senior lecturer ( Main grade)
Principal Lecturer (promoted grade)
Reader ( promoted research leadership grade)
HOD
*Dean of Faculty ( or equivalent)
*Pro Vice Chancellor (Senior management Deputies )
*Vice Chancellor ( Runs the whole shooting match )

('Professor' . conferred by the university . Mostly HOD and above, can be certain nominated Principal Lecturers in some institutions).


* Just to confuse not all New Universities use exactly identical titles at these Senior Grades. .........

No such thing as tenure or tenure track in the meaning of the American University system.

Research

There is no agreed ranking of research institutions. The nearest thing is the 'Research assessment Exercise' which you can find on line . It is undertaken by the Higher Education Funding Council irregularly, and is available in full published by both the Guardian and the Times. on line.

There is no agreed measure however a good overall measure which doesn't help with individual researchers or departments is the so called 'Research Power'. This is a score out of 100. the system used by 54 for displaying text stubbornly refuses to copy this quite quite sophisticated , interactive table . So you'll have to look it up....... BUT a taster simply using one , but perhaps the most comprehensive variable.

133 Institutions entered the last exercise Old and New Universities and some specialist colleges. Top of this variable ( there were about 5 or 6 different variables if I recall) came Oxford with a ranking of 1 score 100. Bottom came Swansea College of Higher Education with a score of 0.3. Central Lancashire came in 94th with a ranking of 3.0 (E and OE.)

If you have specific questions I may be able to help , but please email me....my address is available (when I forget to switch it off) on my 'aubergine' coloured postings. Its not the sort of thing you give public pronouncements on ..............

Has that been any help?







 
 
American Way

Enjoy

October 1 2009, 5:14 PM 

Dear prof n: My Suzy is so good I only spank her on her birthdays and would never had done so had I only knew. Now Suzy is in fourth grade and she has become a handful. I gave her her very first spanking ever for being bad last month. She has been good ever since. She read in the newspaper that spankings lower the IQ and she's mad with me for giving her birthday spankings. She turns 10 next week and wants me to give her a birthday spanking a day sooner while she is still 9. She said she read the chart and thinks the third spanking will make her smarter. Please advise.

 
 
American Way

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October 1 2009, 7:08 PM 

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This site (schoolpaddling.org) seems very promising however the home page appears to be a snapshot of the previous week. Im finding it impossible to access and Im not sure if that is a glitch on their part or on mine. TWP (prof n read its latest blog) gives more of a teachers perspective and maybe this site will provide a students one.

Here is a nutcase and I judge by his spelling of behavior as behaviour he is not likely from this side of the pond. The holiest one I have ever seen. It doesn't blister the hand but it sure must blister the bottom!!! The paddle is just one of his products. Be sure to see the rest of his product line.


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Another_Lurker

Re: schoolpaddling.org

October 1 2009, 9:01 PM 

Hi American Way. In the case of schoolpaddling.org the problem is theirs not yours.

You can't navigate a single page site with no working internal page links or external links! An examination of the source code of the site indicates that there is only one link of any sort. That's the link at the bottom of the page to their 'forum' - which doesn't exist.

In short, it's a could do better! The domain name was registered last November and the page was set up in January 2009. I don't think it has been amended since then.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: childrod.com

October 1 2009, 9:38 PM 

American Way, you certainly provide a correct diagnosis of the mental state of the originator of childrod.com - unless it is an elaborate joke, which I half suspect that it might be! Did you follow the 'Psychogenic Non-Epileptic Seizure Generator' right through to the page where you get the warning about the dangers of using it on children? It turns out to be flashing graphics not some fearful electronic device! happy.gif

Interesting theory though that it is the edges that cause pain with a paddle and holes increase the amount of edge - hence the strange appearance of the site's speciality product!

You say:

I judge by his spelling of behavior as behaviour he is not likely from this side of the pond.

You could be wrong I'm afraid. The domain name is registered to someone in Cocoa, Florida, USA! happy.gif

 
 
prof.n

CP the lighter side

October 1 2009, 10:00 PM 




Hi American Way ,


I don't quite see how I can help poor little Suzy ! I can suggest that far more important than worrying herself into a state about about Professor Straus's work , might be to remember that systematic empiricism is frequently not worth a candle , where small statistical differences are blown up into huge mega theories !

Of course at 10 its a bit young to decide where she wants to pursue her studies, but she might like to bear in mind that I guess if .well I think you'll see the point .she were to score 3/100 for her homework ,( which I'm sure she wouldn't ) and come 94th in class....... well no one would be too pleased would they ?

Now New Hampshire might want better grade point averages than that!!!!!!! But maybe like me they 'forgot' the N in UCLAN ( Lancashire England) and though it was UCLA ( California , United States) in which case you'll get very different results.

As to the rest I'm no agony aunt , but as a poor ignorant Brit. I assume birthday spankings rank with liquorish tawses.........motorised tawsing stools, girls transported through time in private academies in places like Aberdeen and Scarborough ..... and the sort of thing that to say more would get me a bad name as a fun pester...........!!!!!! .


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 2 2009, 3:54 AM 

I judge by his spelling of behavior as behaviour he is not likely from this side of the pond.

You replied:

You could be wrong I'm afraid. The domain name is registered to someone in Cocoa, Florida, USA!

Spell checks don't like the British spelling so for someone to ignore that correction is peculiar. The author may have a British upbringing but over here. We don't have a monopoly on nutcases you know?

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 2 2009, 8:58 PM 

Hi American Way. You say:

We don't have a monopoly on nutcases you know.

Indeed you don't. One only has to visit a suburb of Nottingham situate not a thousand miles from where I sit typing this to attest to the truth of that statement! happy.gif

You also say:

Spell checks don't like the British spelling so for someone to ignore that correction is peculiar.

I agree that one would expect a US citizen writing in English to have his or her spell checker set to English (United States). But not everyone puts material for a website through a spell checker. I very seldom do for instance.

I agree with you that the spelling of 'behaviour' would seem to indicate British antecedents, and it would be interesting to know if indeed the site is British despite the Domain name appearing to have been brought by someone in the US.

The site proprietor describes himself as Pr. Clyde, which I assume is Pastor Clyde. I stand to be corrected on this by anyone better versed in these matters, but I don't think Pastor as a title is a British thing. I would have thought that Reverend, abbreviated to Rev. or Revd., would be the British way, so that may indicate a US resident, if not a US origin. Also the goods on offer are priced in $ not in £. However, that is not conclusive evidence of a US site, since the means of payment is PayPal, which effectively is an International currency mechanism.

Interestingly, the choice of the paddle as the means of correction isn't conclusive evidence of a US site either. I believe that until CP was made illegal in all UK shools a number of private religeous schools here used a paddle for the correction of pupils, followed by the obligatory hugging and praying together routine.

Back in the days when I still watched TV I have distinct memories of the Headmaster of one such school, who I think was part of an organisation seeking exemption from the law for his and similar schools, being interviewed by a group of children about the school's methods. I have no idea what the program was, but the children certainly were not from the school concerned. By that time most UK children had no experience of school CP, as it had long been abolished in state schools, and these children were very curious as to what was involved. Although we were told he had brought it with him, the Headmaster declined to produce the implement concerned, but described it as being 'rather like a small cricket bat'. This was news to me, as I had no idea paddles were used over here, though of course cricket bats were most certainly sometimes used for ad hoc CP in some schools and some contexts.

Hi prof n. You say:

As to the rest I'm no agony aunt , but as a poor ignorant Brit. I assume birthday spankings rank with liquorish tawses.........motorised tawsing stools, girls transported through time in private academies in places like Aberdeen and Scarborough ..... and the sort of thing that to say more would get me a bad name as a fun pester...........!!!!!! .

I'm sure that you had your tongue very firmly in your cheek when you wrote that! I have absolutely no doubt that birthday spankings are a reality in the US. I also fear that they have gained a toehold over here. Like 'trick or treat' on All Hallows Eve, and so-called 'Proms', now an essential part of leaving ceremonies for pupils at most UK comprehensive schools, they will soon come to be seen as a long standing British institution by the young and ill-informed. Even at this early stage in their inexorable progress I fear that mention of them in this estimable Forum is unlikely to result in the showing of a red card and outing as a fun pester! happy.gif

 
 
prof.n

Re :The Lighter Side

October 2 2009, 10:21 PM 

Hi Another Lurker ,

As this is the lighter side let me tell you a British paddle story, quite true. Now you will be aware that paddles have a secondary use in the Deep South, not just for punishment but as an object of skill in paddle spinning competitions.......I indicated a few days ago my miserable attempt when there ended with the paddle on my foot .

Well when miss f was visiting these shores, she was a quite experienced paddle spinner, and believe me , particularly with a well balanced paddle with holes you can do some 'mighty fine' juggling even spinning the paddle by the holes on/with your fingers!

Just occasionally at lunch time she would walk the corridors of school spinning this paddle , I don't know if in the States it has a deterrent effect , but here it just produced a curious group of onlookers.

Well at the end of one lunch she ended up by the music room from which I was just emerging. She stopped me to talk about a 'gig' later in the week , and as she leaned against the wall she continued to flick the paddle from hand to hand. Two of my friends were with me. as she was the Deputy head, they didn't know whether to go on or stop and wait for me , so they were, sort of rooted to the ground, eyes fixated on this strange paddle thing.

The warning bell went five minutes before school, but I remained talking for a further minute. Then she said go on , get to class, and gave me a very gentle backhand pat on the backside with this paddle to illustrate the point .........then she doubled over in laughter....I didn't see the joke, but questioned her later.

She told me that my friends had amused her, because during our conversation they remained transfixed by her paddle spinning, then , as soon as she she appeared to aim to pat me on the backside with it with it she said , you should have seen their little legs run.......talk about wimps!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 2 2009, 11:23 PM 

I'm not so sure that PR is short for pastor. Public relations or Puerto Rico maybe but then again it could an abbreviation for professor as in prof n.

On anther matter: the improvised paddle of choice was a baseball bat found in the archives of Columbia Military School in TN.

At Columbia Military Academy the paddles used in corporal punishment were regulation baseball bats that had been planed down to one-half thickness on the business end. Unruly cadets were obliged to bend over, grab their ankles and look at the wall as the instructor stepped up to the plate.

As in Major League games, the batters seldom "bunted" opting rather for the "home run" hits. Coach Jones' massive size was taken into account as he graphically advised us. "When my board is finished with your butt you'll be a month stopping your nosebleed!" There was no doubt among the Cadet Corps, Coach Jones' was the Columbia Military Academy's Babe Ruth.


 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 3 2009, 1:11 AM 

Hi American Way. You say:

I'm not so sure that PR is short for pastor. Public relations or Puerto Rico maybe but then again it could an abbreviation for professor as in prof n.

Ah, you've Googled Pr too I see! We'll have to agree to differ on it though. In view of the religious message at the foot of the home page of the site my money is still on 'Pastor'. And I can assure you that it isn't prof.n running the site! Despite his preference for paddles with holes (easier to spin?) his name isn't Clyde - or at least I'll be extremely surprised if it is! happy.gif

I am happy to note though, that Pr. Clyde assures me on his home page that '15,000s beautiful Russian women' are waiting for me. When you get to my advanced age that sort of message is a great boost to the ego!

Hi prof.n. You say:

Just occasionally at lunch time she would walk the corridors of school spinning this paddle

Sure as he­ck beats a cane up the sleeve of the gown, the method allegedly favoured by Mr Ing of Bacons School when taking assembly or patrolling his domain!

Tell me, if spinning a paddle, when viewing the activity at 90º to the plane of rotation is it the narrow edge or the wide face of the paddle that is visible? I hope that makes sense. Short of diagrams I can't think of an easier way to phrase what I'm trying to ask.

 
 

Re ; spinning paddles.

October 3 2009, 7:15 PM 


Hi Another Lurker,

OK I'm trying to envisage what you mean. I don't have the advantage of Dr. Dominum's excellent white board graphics package or similar to hand. So let me see if the English language ( or my usage of it) is accurate and clear enough. I think what you mean , with a simple spin, is at 90 degrees to the 'performer the wide edge.- but of course rotating!

There are several ways of spinning a paddle depending on the shape and dimensions, and , importantly whether or not it has holes! ( oh and whilst on the subject I mean something sensible not like the crazy Pr. Clyde picture! I'm surprised in that case if he doesn't offend against trade descriptions? A wood paddle that appears 90% air and gel filled plastic handle!!!!I wonder what Renee would make of that ! ?)

Simple spinning can best be seen on Family guy the 'homage' to the film 'Dazed and Confused' , called 'Jungle Fever' ( Season 4 episode 13) . At the start of the film poor Chris is the object of a ' Fresher Hunt' at his new senior high , and gets paddled several times, including by mayor Adam West ( who is reprising the part of O'Banion in the original.- Yes just don't ask!) Here to the tune of ' no more Mr. Nice Guy, (Alice Cooper) you see him full spin the paddle and throw whilst so doing 'hand to hand'.

This is the simple trick during which I dropped the bat ! In this the paddle spins on its own axis and is thrown ( and usually caught, unless yours truly is performing ) hand to hand! If perchance you do drop it on your ankle/ foot, at least withdraw with dignity , and pretend it didn't hurt at all!

More advanced moves with a holed paddle include. Spinning the paddle by a hole and releasing it on a trajectory which allows to to catch spin and re throw as before. Flip the paddle from the handle, catch the top edge with the free hand and return in the reverse sequence. I understand some experts can throw from behind the back and catch at the front , although I have never seen this done.

Basically you integrate the moves and in between continue the basic flip and spin between hands. There are a few examples on 'Dazed and Confused' itself...if you know the film. I don't know whether that helps?

As I said when I saw it done in school here, very few people were aware of the real purpose of the paddle : so it had a novelty effect , but was no deterrent, Any use of the paddle would have been unofficial and unsanctioned, and she wouldn't do that as she led to policy to regularise all cp in the hands of the specified caners.

I first saw a paddle long before she came to work in my school , but I hadn't a clue what it was. I found it lying on a table in her lounge, and I just picked it up, looked at it uncomprehendingly, and poked the holes...She saw me doing this and said ' You haven't a clue what it is have you, Cat ? 'I admitted defeat ,' Give it here and I'll show you'. Suddenly without warning she pushed me gently down towards the sofa cushions , ( so my hands went out and down as a natural reaction) and she gave me one very little pop. ' See ? ' she grinned 'Now imagine if I put real force behind that, and repeated it !!!Get the picture!!! that's why it's called a paddle!!- oh, and the holes make it swing faster!and we normally do a minimum of three.....maximum of twelve ' ( It was the 70's !). .

Yes Ma'am.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Spinning Paddles etc.

October 4 2009, 12:02 AM 

Hi prof.n. Yes thanks, I think I have a better grasp of paddle spinning now, although I haven't seen, and am unlikely to see, the film you mention. I don't patronise the cinema, or the TV other than news broadcasts. Paddle spinning sounds like an activity for me to avoid. No one every paid me for manual dexterity, and I reckon there is considerable scope for mayhem and injury if things go wrong! happy.gif

You say:

not like the crazy Pr. Clyde picture! I'm surprised in that case if he doesn't offend against trade descriptions? A wood paddle that appears 90% air and gel filled plastic handle!!!!I wonder what Renee would make of that?

Ah, but did you note Pr. Clyde's theory that it's the edges that produce the sting, and the more holes the more edges, and hence greater sting?

I was unsure whether the childrod.com site was a hoax or the product of a member of the Total Nutters Platoon of the God Squad. Despite several examinations I still can't decide! happy.gif

 
 
Alan Turing

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 4 2009, 8:13 AM 

Don't forget the Turing Theory: the body of the implement produces compression of the flesh (deep pain) whereas the edges produce shear and stretching (surface sting).

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 5 2009, 12:27 AM 

Thank you Alan Turing for your reminder above. I have to confess that I had temporarily overlooked that point. I find paddling a very confusing process anyway. I have been trying to get my head round prof.n's (or rather Miss F's) description of the American brace position without success. A re-read tomorrow is indicated I think, I have had rather a hard day!

Clearly Pr Clyde of childrod.com subscribes to your 'edge sting' theory. Since his paddle appears to have virtually no body to speak of he may also wish to avoid deep pain, the device supposedly being intended for use on children. Did you perchance look at the childrod site? I would be interested in your opininion as to whether it is hoax!

 
 

That brace position .........

October 5 2009, 1:33 AM 




Hi again Another Lurker ,

Let me see if I can ease your day. Not having Dr. Dominum's 's drawing skills or kit. Let me try and describe how you get into the brace position from a standing start.....Promise not to rupture yourself trying!

You stand facing the wall but a couple of feet away. . Place your hands a few inches below chest level., well spread apart OK?

Now back away so that your back and arms are eventually at 90 degrees ( right angle) , or as near as you can to your hands .....

Ensure your back is straight, and for stability your legs are around 2 to 3 foot apart ( the exact distance doesn't matter. )

Arms to head one triangle, legs/butt another, and your back near straight....ok ?

The paddler stands in the natural position on the line and slightly to your side .you and ( assuming right handed, places their left hand in the small of your back without pressure. This ensures the swing of the paddle is restricted.

They raise the paddle to 90 degrees......(i.e. not above the shoulder, and bob's your uncle ,you hit the lower 'fleshy' part of the butt, well away from the tail bone...... so to speak! Believe me it works......too well!!

Now Dr. Dominums objection/worry to this is that , as I understand it , you might collapse forward and thus hit your head. The response to this by the 'black ops' military who developed this as a stress position is that the mechanics of anatomy and the physiological balance system don't work that way ..if you try to put your hand back , (the 'JS' position I discussed yesterday with AW - which is easy with either free hand over a chair, or even elbows on desk) then you will through the reaction of autonomic balance stand upright rather than collapse. They say it is physically impossible except after long ( hours) of stress to collapse with two hands releasing at once.

More to the point you also cannot as I find it get your hand to reach back anyway without losing the position entirely , because your arms are stretched and thus the administrator would have plenty of warning you were moving out of the brace.......

Miss F assures me that in her 30 odd years teaching and paddling , she never had one kid who either collapsed, or tried to reach back .if they tried you would know at once as your free hand in small of back would be disrupted and you wouldn't give the lick.......Renee seems to feel the same......

Actually, Miss F ( good job I haven't named her or I couldn't exemplar this)! even managed to paddle her own daughter this way, which was remarkable, because she was like a human eel , and unlike me didn't consent gracefully, and certainly didn't believe in cooperation.! ..But even she was stumped once in this position..... ...getting her there was another issue entirely!

Now hope you see and are not on your way to the ER wit a sprain or strain ........!!! Hope that helped???? Probably not !!!

 
 
American Way

American Brace Position

October 5 2009, 1:58 AM 

The American brace position was actually applied two weeks ago in TWP by Renee on a "MIRANDA" an eighth grader. I agree with prof n it's an undignified position but it is an undignified position to find yourself in the first place. The hands against the wall and in 90 degree angle with bottom protruding are what I could gather from prof n posting is the posture. I would imagine it would be less severe in 2009 (posture and paddling wise seven being the most I've heard). prof n is a great believer in it as a way of reducing the likelihood of injury.

Oddly enough my fellow honorary lifetime member of this estimable Forum asked what college teaches CP (implication thinking people don't paddle). She attacks TWP for not dignifying that qusetion with an answer. I must give credit to Paula in one sense. It raises concern but not to her liking. New Mexico (among the handful of Southern states where it has fell totally out of favor) required a knowledge on how to use the padddle and I'm sure TWP would agree with Colin Farrell on that account in Corpun. I hardly think it would take a course like how to cane Kartika. Let's just say it's the school of hard knocks. Seriously, a principal shouldn't let a teacher sure any paddle or swing any which way and schools shouldn't vary much at least within its own district.

Doctor Dominum expressed concern for falling. Injuring the tailbone die to movement of the torso is the worse case scenario but the hand becomes more likely to be hit if a child is given a fulcrum to spring off of and tries to cover his or her bottom. I'm sure the instruction isn't to stick your butt out (crude) but simply told how far to stand from the wall and to keep your feet slightly parted (bonum prolis) perhaps at shoulders width. The 90 degree angle raises the same concern in me as it did for Dr Dominum. The punishment should from the pain imparted by the paddle and not from the posture. Don't try it at home but at gym.

IMHO for years the over the desk or chair seemed to be the trend but the brace position has never fell totally out of favor (obviously Renee). It's instinctual to protect your bottom with your hand. Canes have been known to hit both but not a paddle without ill effect to the hands. If a desk is available the teacher should ask the child politely but firmly to remove whatever is in the back pockets then to bend over the desk with forearms totally on the desk and place palms flat on the desk and to look straight ahead. Keep a careful watch of hands and tailbone and paddle at a 90 degree angle and not give long intervals between swats. Teary eyes and a surface bruising (dissipating within 48 hours) is what it should amount to. That's what the grandparents and parents think what's happening but don't ask an ambulance chasing lawyer or an anti-CP zealot.

If they don't or find they can't abide by the instructions within reason (not too much resistance to be safe)the paddling should be dispensed with and the alternative (they chose not to accept) would be applied. The teacher shouldn't give the child another chance to choose a paddling over the alternative for any further misbehavior meriting one.

Read the student handbooks and you overwhelmingly find CP and the word OR following it. Read the Arkansas Teachers chatboard under high school tardies and you will find the same.


 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: That brace position .........

October 5 2009, 2:37 AM 

Hi prof n and American Way. Thank you gentlemen for, respectively, your excellent explanation of and background to, and your further information on, the American brace position. I may even pluck up courage to try to get into it - next time I'm down at the climbing wall where there'll be trained first aiders and quite possibly the odd experienced physiotherapist on hand! happy.gif Interestingly it sounds not unlike part of a stretching routine I've seen enthusiastic youngsters include in their warm up routine for climbing. If I try it I shall have to be careful that no one thinks I'm doing anything as modern and trendy as warming up! happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 14 2009, 11:20 AM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 19 2009, 5:25 AM 

I think this should be posted in this thread. North Carolina has corporal punishment for students but not for sleeping in class they punish their teachers with forms the American Way. If I taught there I wouldn't wake this kid up. happy.gif

Sleeping in Classs Discipline Report

 
 
American Way

Dr Dominum Retirement Gift

October 25 2009, 1:56 AM 

Cane Fu. Doctor Dominum can you take a joke about your impending retirement from one lifetime honorary member to another?

Everybody is Kung fu fighting,
Your mind becomes fast as lightning
Although the future is a little bit frightening
If look at your life then youre arriving,

Part I

Part II

 
 
American Way

A Jovial History of Queensland School Education

October 29 2009, 3:33 AM 


A Jovial History of Queensland School Education. I'm sure Colin Farrell probably has posted and for certain this is not new to our historian and house doctor: Dean Clarke and Doctor Dominum.

Down Under Fun


 
 
prof.n

IQ and cp : Dr. Murrsay Straus

October 30 2009, 3:16 PM 

You may recall that in August on this thread there was discussion of Dr. Murray Staus's work in this regard. In my Scottish 'dig' I unearthed the article below which permanently holes this research , to my mind, below the water line

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/nhshealth/Smacking-and-children39s-IQ.5682280.jp

 
 
Alan Turing

Re; IQ and cp : Dr. Murray Straus

October 30 2009, 4:59 PM 

Well, yes. This survey might show:

"If you're a mother who tends to spank your kids then its likely that their cognitive development will not be as good as the children of a mother who doesn't spank."

But spanking isn't a controlled variable here. The mothers haven't been divided at random into two groups, one told never to spank, and one told to use spanking where necessary. So all sorts of other things might have been going on.

There might be relationships between cognitive development and behaviour (and hence susceptibility to punishment). There might be social factors affecting both a mother's tendency to interact with her child (hence aiding development) and her stress levels (hence affecting her tendency to use physical punishment). And so on.

What this survey doesn't show is that spanking impairs cognitive development.




 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 30 2009, 8:52 PM 

Hi Alan Turing: Could you do me a favor and apply the Turing theory on the plusses and minuses of the paddling shown below? Would it be fair to say that the girl would suffer less bruises and pain than the boy? What factors would play into the differences. Lastly would six swats be considered safe given in the manner shown between 40 to 50 seconds into the video for both boy and girl? From a layman persepective it doesn't seem cruel ot unusual.

Thank you. American Way

http://cbs11tv.com/video/?id=13331@ktvt.dayport.com



 
 
prof.n

Swats , licks , and top of the pops!

October 30 2009, 9:49 PM 

Hi American Way.

This Everyman film amuses me. You don't REALLY call those swats do you? This is a bit of a joke. I'm not a hard liner by a million miles, but those are maybe twenty degree swings at best! And no force .....or momentum. They look to have as much effect as a lining up tap with the cane.

On kids of that age. these are little love taps at best. OMG my friend would swat you that hard in fun,if she happened to pass you in the corridor with a spinning paddle in her hand.

You cant even seriously compare than with Nancy or Shorty......perhaps we should just show them the paddle? This was televised, neutered set up for showing in the blue states. Even Paula should have difficulty with opposing that!! Of course every idiot would vote for swats of that calibre set up. come on poor old Shell(e?)y didn't get that .....

I'll stick my neck out and say Renee et al would paddle far harder in elementary!.

I wish I could have shown you the instructional video my 'brace' slide was taken from, but the copyright owners won't classify this site as educational purposes alone. That show three real swats , given a la TWP but they would really sting.

Of course what is shown safe. no hands would fly back ....there's mo reason for them to , but try taking real swats, and different criteria apply.!!!


Perhaps I have misinterpreted American humour once again,( I can't spell it your way ! , I was told that in Texas!!!)??? But I know this I didn't laugh during my paddling , I swore! And was worried I might get extra for that , but the Southerners are understanding that way , to swear , yell etc. shows them , so I'm told ' We're achieving our object!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 31 2009, 2:39 AM 

prof n I do think if the Principal was paddling the girl the way he was hitting the boy and if it was five times that girl would be getting it as hard as Miranda got it from Renee. She was an eighth grader getting a wake up call. Nashia would be getting five swats with the same intensity (by sounds) as Nancy got three but that was for what amounted to criminal assault. But only they would know unless we were told.

I was amused by the swat team but with only one oval paddle (I suspect used on girls). The Principal is gone and so is CP so what comes of those paddles? The taxpayer has a right to know. happy.gif I love the way the girl says booooring (she wouldn't be boooored if Renee was doing the paddling) happy.gif. Peg with her brats wanting to eat candy that made me laugh. Her kids probably need a taste of the paddle more than candy.

I do think if it was for a grave offense and the cameras weren't there they would be hitting a little bit harder. A child is a minor and there was a clear qustioning that they were volunteering (legal consent). If they actually showed Shorty or Nancy Guillen being paddled it would be a turn on to some and a marginally consenting (bargaining) action. If it was seen it wouldn't be what Paula Flowe makes of it and if a Principal paddled a teacher that would be sexual harassment and borderline porn. wink.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 31 2009, 4:46 AM 

I would like to call readers of this estimable Forum to the attention of what I found amusing from a previous posting on different sides of the stick. If you haven't read the article it was a good one. The tawse proof knickers thread got me to thinking about the 23 year old Malaysian girl quoted.

Students who got the rod every so often had to find a way out - or, at least, a way to lessen the intensity of the punishment.

Jane Lim, 23, remembers the days when she took an anti-pain toolkit to school, comprising toothpaste and glue.

We used to smear them on our hands just before we went in front of the classroom to be caned. They worked quite well in reducing the pain.


The paper noted that Jane Lim was an assumed name. I would imagine she didn't want her teacher to have a second go at it. happy.gif

It makes me think that it might not be beyond those girls in the 9/12 3:15 post from Malaysia model caning may be playing a prank. I take it from the lack of replies everyone thinks it's genuine? Their blog went out of business and had a short run as would it seems the abolishment of CP for girls. Some of those Malaysian girls faces are something else. Surprisingly given their culture there was no loss of face there. They all didn't get keno (a word for a lottery over here) Those scamps!!! sad.gif sad.gif happy.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

BTW. IMHO. Kartika's caning will take place within the next 14 days or it will be called off completely. The idea being the delay was not her fault and she has repented sufficiently during that extended period. Todays scoop is the prison says its ready and awaiting Syriah court order and are all denying that the delay is due to outside pressure. September 28th the sentence was upheld and October 25th there was the demonstration and now the woman prison official may have forgotten everything she learned in her course in the duration. She was a no show for the dummy demostration. wink.gif

 
 
Alan Turing

A question answered

October 31 2009, 8:45 AM 

American Way:

I thought those video paddlings were quite mild. The paddle used on the boy was obviously much larger than the one used on the girl, though without having measurements it's impossible to give an accurate comparison of volumes (and hence, assuming similar density of wood, of the weights). The girl's paddle seems to be moving faster, and that has an effect on the result. I wouldn't bother about shearing at the edges: shearing is important with a cane, but that would be moving much faster.

I'd say that they were both quite safe -- but remember, I don't know anything about physiology.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 31 2009, 9:44 PM 

Hi American Way. Five sad faces in a row! You certainly bid fair to being my best pupil ever! happy.gif Now how are things going with the smilies in email? And what became of that disciplinary matrix I'm eagerly awaiting to demonstrate that I do still have a useful function on this estimable Forum?

You say:

BTW. IMHO. Kartika's caning will take place within the next 14 days or it will be called off completely.

You haven't covered the most likely outcome, that things will simply continue as they are now. That way no one loses face. Very important in some cultures!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 1 2009, 12:09 AM 

Re: I never gave that perpetual stalemate much thought for Kartika. There was something in yesterdays paper in the Star Online that makes me think it's going to happen soon. It's like no one wants to take the blame for the delay.

Back to the matrices: There is a former high school counselor about ten years older than Renee from Mississippi who convinced me that tobacco and alcohol should be treated by guidance for first offenses with parental conference because they are more likely doing it at home than at school. She said the matrices were a good idea for big schools because there were too many teachers with too many rules.

She was paddled in seventh grade for copying home work and lying about it and said it was done in the corridor and said she cried and couldn't sit right until she went home. She had to bend over and grasp her ankles but the teacher gave her as much time a she needed to recover and when it was as if nothing happen and didn't call her parents. She never got in too much trouble at home but she would not want to know what trouble she would be in for if they called home.

She will have her job back when President Obama's stimulus package kicks in next year. The economy is really bad here.

In high school kids behaved in the classroom but outside the coaches paddled. She never got in trouble because she was so small she got in no ones way.

Kartika Stalemate

 
 

contraband

November 1 2009, 1:44 AM 



The real alcohol and tobacco problem from the teachers, not the social perspective is bringing the contraband on to the school premises.this is often financially induced, even if it cant be proved, and the aim of the paddle is pure deterrence, nothing else.

The girl you refer to sounds to have reacted as I would expect to three or more licks properly given , and of course grabbing ankles is perfectly safe, but possibly the most undignified position for a girl.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 1 2009, 2:11 AM 

She wasn't concerned about her dignity but a student (worse if it were a boy) passing by or being overheard in the corridor like Nashia in a more private setting. Hanging a paddle from a wall (they did that at her school) and having students over hear a paddling (which happens when paddled in a corridor) is not a good way to achieve deterrence. Having your parents called in for a tobacco or alcohol for a first time caught shpould suffice as a deterrent. prof n I agree peddling is a different story and however hard to prove is a serious offense as well as not following through prevention classes and should involve CP. Are we on the same page? Over a desk or chair or grabbing ankles as second best to brace position? It's your call for the student handbook. I do value your opinion.

 
 

position

November 1 2009, 2:29 AM 



I'd go with grabbing ankles . Very safe , no possibility of hand in the way. Desk ok but you can rise , ( tailbone) and chair , well i don't know why , but twisting round seems to be a problem . I'm only going on my friends career, and experience.....

Agree about the problem of a corridor. as you can see my friend outlawed that in the 70's ( the memo in CP part 1 , and paddles on display are in many States now banned by law....As for people passing and hearing , well always in private of course, and no internal windows!!!!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 1 2009, 3:45 AM 

It is very interesting that your lady friend shows the civility of the Amish people you spoke well of before from Turkeyfoot if you remember. The asking them politely to take what they have out of the pockets and even trusting them to give a medical reason why they shouldn't be paddled and double checking if they have a parental DNP are ways of saying you messed up but we are going about this on a way that will respect your dignity. I wouldn't let my daughter go back to her classroom like Nashia no matter what she did and prof n I'm sure there is no one more on the same page as we are in our admiration for Renee but I wouldn't be anything less than disingenuous if I didn't share some fraternal (not paternal although I'm old enough) correction. If Nashia wants to tell the class that Renee is a hard paddler (not a bad thing for the kids to know) she can tell the girls by allowing her to regain her composure and not have to show it. Maybe there was no one around so it might me a moot point. I trust it was the place most out of sight and hearing available. Being in high school it may be the last time she will be paddled and she might appreciate that little courtesy when she revisits that painful situation that she got herself into. You don't have to coddle her but in the future it might be nice to have a tissue. I'm thinking like a Dad although our daughter just finished college.

And Nashia, the roughest girl in the school was reduced to tears and clutching her rear as she was sent back to her class.


Turkeyfoot. Give the student ample time to gain his/her composure before returning to class.



 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 1 2009, 12:54 PM 

Everman: Anthony Price was defending a practice in an urban area where corporal punishment is rapidly vanishing. He was trying to show it wasn't brutal. I think the boys knew he got a mild one which in fact he may do at times. IMHO he paddled that student milder than he would if a student was guilty of a gross violation of the school code of conduct and I think as Alan Turing observed with less velocity than the girl's paddling.

He paddled with a very inappropriate paddle she was paddled by a reasonable intensity. Considering the size of the boy by the time he turned 18 he probably would have to be hit very hard for it to be classified as a punishment. The mostly girls interviewed showed the ineffectiveness of CP when the shame/pain is minimize by their choosing that punishment. I suppose those who found it less pleasant than detention were not in room so unfairly represented. They must have some in detention. the showed In a sense it was the principal saying see CP isn't that bad when if it isn't that bad why do it in the first place.

Asking minors if they were willing to give a nationwide viewed sampling unless they had parental permission to be on the show was not a good idea. The boy saying he wanted no part of Mr Price makes me think he would not have vounteered if he knew he was going to be hit as hard as he must have been on at least one Occasion. Do you think something like this should happen on TV in Australia Dr Dominum? How would it have been handled within the context of the documentary recently taped in your school?

 
 

Dignity

November 1 2009, 1:53 PM 



Hi American Way,

On this one we read off the same hymn sheet. absolutely no need for any humiliation , and another thing , to pick up one of Dr. Dominum's points, Some students can be far more sensitive to shame than others, and therefore, it is necessary to ensure after the 'event' you rebuild a connection that says' I don't hate you- this wasn't personal'.

My friend had a sort of 'collection' of bon mots for this situation , some of which worked , some less so . This first one was universally used by her . OK? No bad feelings....hey say so if there are ; Are we cool ? If no say so, don't y'a let it fester.Others included, time to get back on your horse cowboy.....; maybe next time you'll try to shoot a bit straighter.....

And I agree, never send the kid back to class distressed,. The only exception might be for certain types of bully, where shame in front of peers could be necessary , to stop them appearing to reinforce a 'hard' reputation..

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 1 2009, 2:53 PM 

The no hard feelings statement may be heard in the immediate post paddled state sound like you want me to say yes so you will feel better and I'll say whatever you want because I want to get away from you as quick as possible before I lose my self control I'm not comfortable with.

Can someone please post the pre paddled appeal post for the life of me I can't find it. I can't believe I didn't favorite it. It provides a check list for due process from give me one more chance to prove I didn't do it to please take in consideration a reduction due to mitigating circumstances. It something worthy of the courtesy found in Turkeyfoot.

I'm not too sure about the bully thing. Some will gain status as look at me he gave me the best he could and I'm tougher than him and some will lose status because they are more vulnerable. Plus there is lex talonis when maybe there should be more turn the other cheek (pun not intended)

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 10 2009, 2:54 PM 

Headmistress and prefects funny one. I hope appropriate although OT to this estimable Forum?

cartoon

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 18 2009, 12:48 AM 

I don't think Renee would be pleased with these two southern teachers actions on this popular Atlanta based radio show.

Teacher Who Paddles Not TWP


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 23 2009, 4:37 PM 

The tradition of signing a paddle and a smiley face was mentioned by Megan Lowry is something confirmed (not smiley face) in a publication below also as I mentioned before there was one where a tawse selling on ebay was signed with unknown provenance but said it was from the year before a teacher retired and there were both gender and by ration more acceptable to Dr Dominum's than Jennys. Renee said she would look into her schools history to see if signings happened. Maybe in researching that she may confirm that tradition in other schools with Renee et al TWP blogsite.

IMHO relatively rare but not infrequently from what I can gather from ebay like tawses. We agree it made light of something that should not be. Like Megan Lowry the photo was staged however close in age to being a senior in high school. That better be a paddle they put a side because however safe there is always a chance of breaking. Not a very busy paddle granted and for that I imagine they're happy about but in real life wouldn't that be a pencil pushers nightmare. Would serve them right. happy.gif

Paddling and Gender by David Hill January 2, 2007

One day she asked me to come into her classroom to pick up a box for her. I saw her paddle sitting in her closet and could not help but notice there were about nineteen signatures on the paddle. Seventeen male signatures and two female.

[linked image]

 
 

paddle

November 23 2009, 6:22 PM 



The paddle looks like pine. If so they would have a very short useful life as they split longitudinally down the grain , and also are prone to hairline fractures.A number of schools , but not by any means all , I understand, avoid them for that reason . They are relatively light.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 23 2009, 8:38 PM 

prof n you would be looking at the paddle in that picture wouldn't you. happy.gif

I do think it could be pine but than again I think it is maple. Oak is the way to go. Why take chances with splinters and flying parts. I'll google images and see if I can get a better look. Maybe they want to make it pine to make it look worse. I think it was the same one used on the Rachel paddling they took down.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 23 2009, 9:54 PM 

If you look closely you can see the markings on it. I hope it was worn with age and not by too much by use.

[linked image]

 
 
Yetanotheranotherlurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 23 2009, 10:25 PM 

What a coincidence that all the names on the paddle are the same as those of models on the RealSpankings sites.

 
 

paddle

November 23 2009, 11:53 PM 



Hi American way,

Sorry, i think we are at cross purposes I meant the paddle in the 'posed ' photo you reproduced.........with the balck marker pen!!!!!!

I agree Oak - way to go !!!!!

 
 

paddle !

November 25 2009, 10:56 AM 



Hi Yet Another Another Lurker,

Good call ! I just googled a few of the names and see what you mean. So , as they say that can be consigned to the dustbin of history, History repeats itself..........then as farce!

 
 
American Way

GOOD CALL NOT SO FAST

November 25 2009, 12:58 PM 

Yes good call porno site but I didn't say stage but how do you define history? I'm sure they used different paddles and signed that one as a sort of history of the models paddled. I agree with prof n too fragile. Pine maybe ash? Certainly you mean around the time when CP just became controversial in the late eighties. The Megan Lowry inviting to sign and seeing the smiley face (contemporary of Renee) story may not be straining credulity judging by Renee's comment about checking back on smileys tradition at her school.

The ones who are flogging these porno sites are not reading from history books but are drawing more likely from theirs or maybe their parents experiences. Their portrayal of kinky teachers may make CP a thing of the past and not considered a good thing in many southern states and among some in Australia. I'm not so sure if the UK had its druthers ther are sorry that they put a ban on it.

A recent survey of British teachers showed many wanted to bring the cane back and some of them have been exempted by law to be on the receiving end given the date they entered elementary school.

In keeping with the thread and keeping it on the lighter side Alan Turing may ask with justification how many were surveyed and how many among those were in their twenties and how many of them were in favor in a survey and then coonsider the margin of error but I'm content with reasonable surmises.

 
 

Good or bad call.....

November 25 2009, 3:25 PM 



Hi American Way,

I think , on review you are right on 'Ash'

As to the survey, it was quite surprising. Few teachers are normally prepared to publicize , even by questionnaire their views, except to other educational professional over the drinks table.....so that's why the papers were full of it.

One reason I believe for this , is the inherent cowed (small 'c') conservatism of the Teacher Training Institutions. I don't think many properly prepare staff for the classroom .....Why? ....Because many of the teaching staff 'opted out' of real education and the rough and tumble of school. The institutions themselves are in hock to government regulators and quality bodies......and so these issues are 'off' the agenda. My worst educational experience was gaining my certification in education, and I've told you the priorities of the college I taught in ( BEFORE getting certified......)

On entering the common room . 'No students allowed in here', bellowed by a older man in traditional dress. 'Oh I'm your new sociology lecturer' ......' 'Oh sorry, well THAT explains everything....' !!!!

Wonder what he meant?????!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 25 2009, 5:40 PM 

Teenagers in China are becoming internet addicts and the government is banning corporal punishment as a means to stop it.

Chinese Corporal Punishment

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 25 2009, 9:07 PM 

[linked image]



 
 
American Way

Corporal Punishment By Any Other Name

November 30 2009, 8:38 AM 

This education code 49001B was written for California. Maybe it was for a history assignment on corporal punishment something that high school students wouldn't be reading still in 20 states. The state house in Sacramento tells every school house what 37,000,000 people should do. They had the dubious distinction of being pioneers in the expansive definition of CP back in 1989. You can understand the strategy of those who would rather convince the mostly lawyers (state representatives)in state houses rather than debate it on local fronts. IMHO that is not the American Way. From what I can gather Europe was beginning to tie the hands (put pressure on the Parliament) in the UK around the same time. Are other forms of CP as those forbidden in the code the girls were reading from common over there?

BTW the paddle was for hazing (outlawed in the eighties). Either The authentic school paddling was shot recently and called an initiation paddling. The girl in the video was either very brave or very drunk or maybe both judging by the bottles in the back. I would imagine Nashia got five of the best but not that rapid with a paddle from what I can gather quite similar. She can tell us otherwise. It was Nashia from TWP bad karma that she wasn't wearing jeans but a loose fitting garment but Renee's good karma but I'm sure Renee would be able to get her point across in any event however dainty her hands were that made her double grip. wink.gif

http://www.pesoftware.com/Resources/exercise.html

California Education Code 49001B

 
 
American Way

oops here is the video

November 30 2009, 8:54 AM 

This is the video that shows the lighter side of school corporal punishment. California yes but not exactly Oscar candidates. wink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EDUuAOIPXU

 
 
American Way

Tea? Torture? Transition (T-rm)

December 11 2009, 3:19 AM 

Transitition

Rules for the Transition Room (T rm) are:

-No electronic devices of any type are permitted at any time.
-The use of the internet is not permitted for any reason.
-Students may not look out the windows, nor are they to sit on top of desks or tables.
-Students are not permitted to leave the focus room unaccompanied for any reason except to use the bathrooms directly across the hall from the focus room.
-There are to be no visitors or students visitors for any reason.
-Hours of operation of the Transition Room are from 7:55 to 3:00. Students must leave campus each day at 3:00 and not return until just before the 7:55 bell the next school day.
-When in Transition students are outside of the school culture. This means that they are not permitted to be on campus for any reason other than attending school in the Transition Room, this includes activities after the school day is over.
-Students in transition, even high school students in for one period, are ineligible for all extra-curricular activities for the duration of their placement in transition.

Discovery Discipline and Enjoy happy.gif

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Tea? Torture? Transition (T-rm)

December 11 2009, 4:41 AM 

Hi American Way. You said:

Transitition

And I can only say in response:

Oh no! What have I done! But thank goodness you didn't look at that colour chart I linked in Computer Corner with all those really bright vivid colours or appreciate the effect bold might have! happy.gif

Seriously, well done! But remember moderation in all things, except 100th posts, annoying Fun Pesters©Alan Turing and communicating with Jenny. wink.gif

Thank you for the information re Transition/Focus room. I assume these are one and the same thing but neither your post nor the Grand Canyon Middle School and High School handbook supplement make this clear. I think I'll take those swats after all. You Americans are generally nice people, but as a Nation you have a vindictive streak. These are children for goodness sake! Still I was relieved to note that it didn't say they were kept in full metal restraints, and I presume their lunches aren't pushed in through a slot in the door!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 11 2009, 8:18 AM 

Good point about Focus or Transition. From what I can gather the room is called focus and therein lies different circles of hell the deepest of them all is the dreaded Transition after nine focus visits. The slot I'm not to sure about but it's only cold lunches and sack lunches for that lot.

TWP is involved in an ongoing discussion with an elementary school paddling teacher from Arizona (Grand Canyon Schools' State). The school finds other methods either ineffective or a logistical headache so they brought back the trustworthy paddle out of their closet. With due deference to TWP elementary school teachers unless reluctantly called because of her gender to be the designated hitter 14 to 17 year olds (unless of course they are 6 ft female basketball center pugilists) and I must say caught in her situation I may have done the same) I would be more incline to spare elementary school student than them. Like many southern college graduates football is Rene et al favorite sport to watch (maybe two hand tage or flag to play) happy.gif so they know the perils of Monday morning quarterbacking and that is something I have too much respect for teachers of their caliber (N.B. I did qualify it) to ever do.

I know by my own 6 and 7 year olds can be monsters but I could never envision hitting mine with the thinnest of wooden paddles. A newspaper would suffice. But I am harsh they have had difficulty finding the right paddle for if they're too harsh they will hurt the child or they will all line up and say (Everman Middle School) give me pops. happy.gif For the life of me I can't see why they just don't turn them over their knee and spank them but now is now and then is then.

Teachers are often caught between a hard place and a rock. Grand Canyon AZ pun unintended for it is a liberal town that heavens forbid would ever countenance corporal punishment and must rely on more exquisite forms of torture. Ms B Crumbo2 is the Head and you can Twitter her if you have questions but judging how she gets torqued off with her teachers for referring gum chewing urchins I would think twice before I do that. happy.gif

Lastly as far as HTML moderation goes when my TWP thread hit the century mark I mastered emoticons. About at the time of the Courage to Submit thread hit that mark I was getting the hang of matrices (I'm glad since I modified Winona it was copyrighted it American Way) when this one hits that magical mark maybe I'll be up to initiating my next project (backgrounds in bottle green). happy.gif

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 12 2009, 5:59 AM 

Hi American Way. You said:



when this one hits that magical mark maybe I'll be up to initiating my next project (backgrounds in bottle green).

                                        

As this thread is entitled 'Corporal Punishment Lighter Side' here for you is that very thing!



What's more, hidden away somewhere in the bottle green area is a link to a picture of an attractive young lady wearing the iconic garment which gave the color its name - or was it the other way round? happy.gif Not quite the way they were when I was at school - for that you'd have to go to Big John MOI's upside down picture here which sadly is in mono.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 30 2009, 11:02 PM 

Do you think by an electric paddle he means as in an paddle (like an electric chair) or a robo spanker? The robot would make the matrices fairer as some have mocked. Maybe it can be set by pertness and surface are of the bottom but heavens forbid not gender. wink.gif For what it is worth you can email him with a job offer. happy.gif This belongs on the lighter side. I hope he isnt applying to be an English teacher. sad.gif

I am new on this site and actually came on to try and get info on
becoming a teacher in MS. Even though I've been out of college for
many years now, when I was in High School, fear was a great
deterant. I came from a family of teachers. My grandmother, mother,
grandfather and aunt were all career educators in MS. The rumor was
that our principle had an electric paddle. Not true but we didn't
know that. The fear of having to go the office was worse than the
actual paddling. I'll admit I got a couple of paddlings over the
years at school, but the one I got when I got home was worse. I did
my best to be a good boy. I still would like to become a teacher if
anyone has any info on how please let me know.


http://teachers.net/states/ms/topic584/12.22.09.06.14.19.html



 
 
American Way

Godly Tips on How to Punish and Beat Your Christian Child

December 31 2009, 4:03 AM 


 
 
American Way

Electric Paddle

December 31 2009, 10:48 PM 

electric-fly-swatter-desc.jpgElectric Paddle

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 10 2010, 10:27 PM 

Birney A Lettick was a well regarded artists. His controversial cover of a tweedy professor spanking a girl with a failing grade from National Lampoon was atypical if you google his images of prestigious magazine. This animated version I found amusing. I don't know how the gif works with your computer.

Birney A Lettick Classic

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 11 2010, 12:53 AM 

http://buyingandsellingcomics.com/description/2420/


The below link does involve bare buttocks so Forum management feel free to remove from our estimable Forum if you think it is going to cause problems keeping us a family site or not to look by not clicking below link. I have posted it before but not in this animated form. National Lampoon is far from an X-rated mgazine.

Lettick's last painting before he passed was of President Ronald Reagan for Time Magazine in 1986 above. He was born in 1919 and died shortly after the above cover. He servved the American Way (Normandy Beach) and was renowned as a kind of Norman Rockwell figure (is he familiar to the UK?) From the first link you can see they have become collectors items.

For those who may say this has nothing to do with school corporal punishment one should keep in mind that 1n 1975 here consensual sexual relations between professors and college age students was not all that uncommon. If you recall some girls married their professors. Does anyone remember those days? Thankfully those things are mostly a thing of the past except perhaps in the Ukraine where the girls are trying to make a difference.

Lettick Slide Rule Over The Knee Spanking of College Girl from National Lampoon Cover Animated


    
This message has been edited by larry1951 on Jan 16, 2010 5:20 AM


 
 

Another_Lurker

That animated (and CORRECTLY linked) gif.

January 11 2010, 2:14 AM 

I still say that's a dreadful thing to do to a slide rule! happy.gif A charming animation nonetheless!

 
 
American Way

Bad memories

January 11 2010, 3:27 AM 

This is almost what my Nuns looked like but not the girls sad.gif Interesting publicity cover for a contemporary group (ROCK S'COOL) From the looks of the girls she has her hands full. No slide rulers for them. Yeoch happy.gif


http://www.thepublicityconnection.com/clients/rock-P.html

Hotlink removed



    
This message has been edited by larry1951 on Jan 11, 2010 6:19 AM


 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Bad memories

January 11 2010, 4:24 AM 

Hi American Way. I see what you mean about the ROCK S'COOL schoolgirls. Things certainly weren't like that in my day either! sad.gif

Any chance you'd be so kind as to tell me where/how you found the picture you displayed? At first glance this appears to be a subset of one of the pictures on the publicity site you link. However, it isn't. The nun and the unfortunate young lady being rulered are identical in both, but there are a number of differences, not least the state of the blackboard. Methinks the nun and her victim have been lifted from elsewhere.

Noting that the displayed picture was hosted on a Russian site I thought I'd have a quick look round in the hope that I might find some suitable material for up-coming 100th post celebrations. Sadly the only thing the site is prepared to let me see is the picture you've shown and a page bearing the cryptic legend:

Gná is, in Norse mythology, one of the three handmaids of Frigg, together with Fulla and Hlín.

I'm sure there's a message there somewhere, I just can't tell what it is! happy.gif

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Bad memories

January 11 2010, 7:09 AM 

Interesting! There are now two pictures displayed in American Way's post above. There was definitely only the now right hand one, left aligned, there for a considerable period and no missing picture marker! The left hand one appears to be essentially a vertically distorted version of the right hand one.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Bad memories

January 11 2010, 7:12 AM 

Arragh, now they've both gone, but fully in accordance with Forum policy! happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Fully In Accordance (What "Hotlink") Policy?)

January 11 2010, 3:18 PM 

Many of my other posts I have pushed the envelope (always willing to be told when and ever willing to adjust accordingly) but the aforesaid group from the UK ROCK SCOOL musical group has a DVD cover with the picture uncensored available at any music store with a large inventory. I deliberately did not post the picture that does not show the girl standing by crossing her legs in a short skirt nor would the picture of the school girl alone sporting racy attire because of my thinking of what be least offensive to some and then I get this hot link exclusion?

I feel that my Catholic school memory of school corporal punishment that the picture of the sister would not surprise readers that it would elicits such a visceral response from me. My experience of school corporal punishment I thought would be interests to some.

I am appreciative of the many hours that Larry 1951 and members of this estimable Forum have given me but I expect no privileges from any honor bestowed upon me. I do not expect a response from the Forum Management but I felt it was incumbent upon me to vent my feelings. I only wished I could write with my native language as well as everyone here. Trust me Im trying.

Despite the waves that cross the Atlantic (worse than the North Sea) I appreciate and dont take for granted for a moment your forbearance and gentleness. On a lighter note I receive Christmas cards with penguins (similarity of appearance to the dreaded sisters of no mercy) who know well my Halloween stories.

In the future I will simply say please Google in safe mode search Rock SCool to avoid sensitive annoyances unless the Forum Management find this offensive.

I am indebted to Another_Lurker whose input I greatly value.

Re: The Courage to Submit: An Unlikely Role Model January 10 2010, 11:30 PM

Hi American Way. First, a matter of vital import! I'm going to whisper this as I don't want you to get into trouble if the Forum Management notice. Their wheels grind slowly but they grind exceeding small, and even for Honorary Life Members the penalties for disobedience can be draconian!


P.S. I have left (by accident my email address) in case Forum Management wants to address this directly. Thank you for all you do to make this Forum so estimable.

 
 
American Way

Attention Forum Management

January 11 2010, 4:11 PM 

Forum Management read posting under Courage to Submit and please advise.

 
 
Research Assistant 2

Re: Attention Forum Management

January 11 2010, 5:04 PM 

As from 4 January 2010:

Contributors may display images of which they own the copyright on this Forum.

Contributors must not display images of which they do not own the copyright on this Forum.

It is acceptable to passive link to a site or an image e.g.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/

but please do not link to so-called 'adult sites'.

See also the thread 'Goodbye to Some Hotlinks' and the very clear and concise piece from Another_Lurker in 'Computing Corner' sent 3 January 2010 at 11.04pm and also his post in 'The Courage to Submit: An Unlikely Role Model', 10 January at 11.30pm.

Dot: Keep posting!

 
 
prof.n

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 11 2010, 8:21 PM 



Research Assistant 2.

Just for absolute clarity , presumably one can post pictures for which you have the copyright owners permission as well ( subject to taste and decency).

I ask because some posts I have made included library pictures for which I had obtained limited permission for use to further eductional debate and research. Some were given with a limited timeframe. I of course withdrew these at the expiration of the alloted period. they were all posted via photobucket and permission acknowledged

Thanks for your time.

 
 
Research Assistant 2

Copyright Owner's Permission

January 11 2010, 8:47 PM 

Yes, please go ahead.

Dot: Keep posting!

 
 
American Way

Paddle Signing

January 13 2010, 3:14 PM 

From time to time some of my posts about school corporal in the states are taken as just tales. Alvin Texas High School Paddlings of Girls was one example, sample paddlings among novice teachers (teacher chatboard cosenting adults so I assume at times bare bottom). Not to be confused with the scantily clad Renee testing a paddle behind closed doors with her husband. wink.gif and of course those who say the signing tradition is just a figment of adult site fantasy (c.f. posting on November 23 2009, 4:37 PM and just reenactments. Au Contraire: http://www.reference.com/browse/Paddle+(spanking).

Maybe by reverting to my long links questions of taste ot decency or copyright violations will become less burdening to the Forum Mangement. Elongation of the screen being a minor incovenience in comparison. It certainly beats walking through the Google process that puts the burden upon everyone of this estimable Forum. I fear losing my Lifetime Honorary status or being as my valued Another-Lurker or being red ringed. happy.gif

 
 
R.G. Tracker

Re: Paddle Signing

January 13 2010, 3:26 PM 

There is no question of you losing your Honorary Life Member Status.

Keep reverting to your long links! Keep posting!

Dot: Keep posting!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 13 2010, 3:33 PM 

Colin Farrel has the best compilation of jocular SCP but this birthday spanking from the first link takes the cake no pun intended. Birthday spanking tradition is not just the American Way as shown in the second link. One to grow on does not mean the link. Since it does not extend beyond the text on the preview it shouldn't extend the screen. Or will it? If it does I'll put our dear readers through the Google hoops.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/brit-teens-16th-birthday-surprise-a-spanking-stripper_1004287.html

http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/10/and-one-to-grow-on.html


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 13 2010, 6:00 PM 

I consider myself a bit of an expert on Student Handbooks. The half Saturday trade off for three swats is still there for the fourth tady but what I didn't realize was that for the second unexcused absence you receive the same punishment. Who among the readers of this estimable Forum would be willing take six of the best in exchange for a holiday? happy.gif. Assuming of course their equivalency (c.f. strokes vs swats thread).

I put this under CP Lighter Side because I discovered something unique in their Handbook or Steve Halters Bible of course no Halter tops in their dress code. happy.gif. They have the parents given a Tylenol Notice Form (Indexed in Handbook). Instead of given a generic they advertise or it would be akin to not saying no soda drinking but instead saying no Pepsi drinking. Personally of I were to face the pain of three swats after my two days of skipping I would want a one hour fast acting Excedrin and then an eight hour lasting Tylenol pain relief. happy.gif But Tonya of Tonya Paddling fame resorted to self medicating a not unfamiliar remedy to some. happy.gif

On the ocassion the 100th post under the Courage to Submit our estimable Forum via a photobucket entry a Google of her name brings up Nancy Guillen's photo (without a further click to image) so we know for sure she knows of our existence (www.network54.com/Forum/198833/). If she doesn't Google herself some friend would or it least it is (here we go again) a reasonable surmise If only our Ukrainian crusader (only shown in a an unflattering food fight photo under a further click image) with what I believe to be the correct native spelling be given the same honor. It would nice to hear her side of what she feels about corporal punishment. I wouldn't through a lot to find her picture in a dignified pose. happy.gif Kartika is already over exposed and needs no introduction from us.

[linked image]

http://www.booneville.k12.ar.us/HS/bhs%20handbook.aspx


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 15 2010, 1:43 AM 

What would Femen think of this article on sexual harassment?

http://www.whatson-kiev.com/index.php?go=News&in=view&id=6868

There is way of handling some of these problems that pertains to this estimable Forum from this Dec 26th Post. Teen Girls Showing Too Much Skin in Short Uniforms and the dreaded paddle.

http://teachers.net/mentors/high_school/topic9373/12.26.09.17.40.54.html

 
 
American Way

prof n Wedgie

January 16 2010, 8:43 PM 

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/history-of-corporal-punishment.html

January 16 2010, 2:41 PM found from prof n in Goodbye Hotlinks.

Finally it illustrated good practice in the placing of the paddler's hand on the small of the back to restrict swing (NB placed gently NOT to pull up a belt achieve a wedgie with a boy)

I thought this would be included in the Corpun Picture Parade Dummy Demonstration but might be somewhere in the sight. I did not find it there and it is certainly worthy of inclusion in this thread and it may be of some value of having some pictures to catch the eye so to speak which a cool link would not so we can have a picture before the eagerly awaited 100th posting.

The process of using photobucket frightens me so could someone dummy it down for me perhaps in Computer Corner beginning with registration for I have mastered certain lessons like the matrix for Im not invincibly ignorant nor stubbornly rebellious. ;(

This would be a wonderful picture to begin with as an example if it is not on Corpun site. It would appear that is was jocularly posed many decades ago so the picture fascinates me and feel it should be put in this thread. Was it theatrically posed recently? Were children ever paddled in this manner do you think? It would take a great deal of effort to maintain that pose but probably would make effort in a day when obedience prevailed.

The other alternative of course like the matrix is to have someone do it but that becomes burdensome after awhile by how frequently I post and it is easier to teach one how to fish.

 
 
American Way

posted before? taste & decency?

January 17 2010, 9:07 PM 

This 24 year girl demonstrates punishment on the hand with strap and cane, exactly replicating what she experienced at school in west Africa

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&vanity=312933571

19 year old Mel and Filly are curious to know what the cane is like.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=25867420

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=25867486

Chipo is a nurse originally from Zimbabwe. Here she demonstrates school discipline back home.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=25818947

Wunmi, a trainee doctor, was brought up in a Nigerian military school. This is what it was like...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=25867611

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 18 2010, 12:22 AM 

From what I can gather Zimbabwe officially banned CP around 2000 and canes and paddles would be instruments of correction less than a decade ago. Januray 15th story. Link Re: Zimbabwe

http://allafrica.com/stories/201001150961.html

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 18 2010, 3:41 PM 

Corpun is a filtered site in South Korea. The comment under John Hugins at 7:21 about broken 14 year olds describes my grammar school graduation class. I also liked what he had to say in the penultimate paragraph. Could the girl and her classmates in the first click red lettered "girl" access that video. She is the class clown as shown by the look at the lesson seconds of the first clip. Maybe her teacher would have someone hold her down if he caught the last seconds laughing and cane her twice as hard with twice as many as well as the media savvy student. I notice that in spite of the sound many the clip was well shot and hard to believe the person could go unnoticed unless that was the teacher's purpose. Was eight the prescribed dose you think? Are there boys ever present?

http://gypsyscholarship.blogspot.com/2009/06/corporal-punishment-in-korean-schools.html

 
 
hcj

Not much of the lighter side!

January 18 2010, 4:56 PM 

It is very good timing that you posted this link, which is very familiar to me, as the man who wishes to be Education Minister in the UK has just today stated that his policy will be to make UK schools more like those in South Korea.

I believe there is more to education than examination results but I'm afraid the teacher shown is typical of those who are concerned only with targets. Many have brilliant brains but are not good classroom managers. High school pupils frequently attend "crammer" schools late into the evening or have private tutors because parents are so keen for the children to have high scores. All very well, but the kids are driven too hard in my opinion.

The debate about co-educational schools in South Korea is similar to those we read in this Forum - some say they are better, others argue that boys especially perform better in single gender schools. Co-educational high schools are more the exception than the rule.

Corporal punishment is as common for girls as boys. As to the number of strokes - typically it will be related to the score in a test, so may be different for different girls in this instance. Was the teacher aware of the camera? I think he was too obsessed with his score sheet to care.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 18 2010, 6:25 PM 

He was probably reading off every incorrect answer to embarrass the poor girls. It was more shame than pain for those skirts provided protection even more than jeans or almost. I do take exception with your friend Dr Dominum for caning for lack of effort on tests and reports but I have less a problem with cheating but hope they find more mercy (attribution & hotlinks) than me. Ouch.

Prof n and I are so on the right page against public paddling and strapping in mixed assemblies holding off until Fridays only as in Memphis sad.gif

If you are going to mass cane girls or even one you should never do it in front of boys. Some may take a prurient interest there goes I but for the grace of God. wink.gif Just trying to keep it on thread I am. happy.gif Not for one moment do I buy the correction for "fellow friends" would mean both boys and girls (after exercises form of corporal punishment didnt modify their behavior (sorry Im not changing my spell check). happy.gif They probably check for more than spelling and Mr John Tow will be using other ways to show the girls he cares unlike the MS girl who was paddled for being late: Jennifer Washington Crimson Chronicle: Why Should You Be Punctual To Class?

No doubt, students will be very glad if there is no assembly for a particular week. For some students (or perhaps I should say most), the teachers lengthy speech means nothing to them but a wonderful hypnosis treatment SO, it is definitely easy for you to spot a sleeping prince or sleeping beauty during assembly. Dont believe, you might have a try!
There is a new school rule in our school Fellow students, take note. You must get into the hall at 7:15 am everyday! 5 minutes earlier compared to last year. Seemingly, there were still a whole bunch of pupils have not got this message yet ==
I was taken aback for what I saw today in the hall. 23 cute, adorable and gentle girls were standing in front of the stage! (See? I even count them) It was an unusual scene indeed. I was racking my brain to think whats going on when the phwack sound was heard and this aroused students attention.
Again, Mr. John Toh used his lovely cane to kiss those students buttock. It was really a terrifying scene! Students were trying to explain the reason of the lateness, hoping to skip from the punishment. Unfortunately, I have to say, they had underestimated Mr. John and most of them winded up with their buttock kissed
Piack

Fellow friends, the school disciplinary board had already enforced this rule. Therefore, please be punctual!!


Were resuming for the second semester in the mentor program and the girls are less on time than boys from my experience both at school and at the workplace.

Detention for tardies I dont report in my because they report directly to site and not homeroom and Im a nice guy or Im sure the Principal and wife always calls me an enabler. happy.gif. And get this she is an exchange student from Wales. Do you have foreign exchange programs there? Would her parents have likely been caned or tawsed back in the 20 years ago? Ill be going there once a week less for there is another one mentoring that I share the time away. I dont know if she will report tardies. She is half my age but as a married man and not in the South I wont suggest sample paddling. You cant get arrested for what you think. That is sexual harassment and they were the bad all days in that regard.



 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 18 2010, 6:31 PM 

Someone at work who writes worse than I do (glass houses) said that although I can't write I consistently write wrong so it's like a signature that becomes easier to read after time. Am I being presumptious to assume that here. Keep in mind I rarely check grammar and spelling so the spell check comment from the previous posting is a bit of a canard. happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Way down in Kokomo

January 18 2010, 7:32 PM 

I would imagine the Muppets are internationally known and many of you are headed to one of your own Kokomos or your former colonies (you can't win every battle wink.gif ) so enjoy. As promised in the Mixed Experience thread. Miss Piggy never spanked Kermit and it certainly couldn't be the other way around. happy.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qReKppA71DE

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 19 2010, 6:38 PM 

Here is a little bit of Americana from the American Way. I enjoyed this post in spite of the fact that I got the stick in the Principal's office in second grade not much younger than Smiley appears. Rulers are for hands and sticks are for bottoms with the Sisters of No Mercy. The Nun wasn't at all like this Principal. His timing and severity sounded about right and he had a nice touch at the end (done and over with and no hard feelings). Pain as intend and he'll remember for I doubt he was punished like everyday or at least I hope IMHO this is the way corporal should be administered. I think even TWP would agree as long as it wasn't over heard. They made an example out of me by putting it on the intercom.

My apologies to this estimable Forum if this has been shown before. It does show a "period piece" that I am sure can only be remembered by "super seniors". BTW. Maybe my handbook should ditch the paddle for the cane. It does require more technique and practice and hasn't been used for awhile so it would require training. Dr Dominum are you still retiring on April 1st and will be able to watch the upcoming documentary. It may not be wise since you tube (any fallout since the return of the students?) and your sister school headmistress identity would be revealed. Just a thought. Was it wise to choose April Fools day for the date of your resignation or is it pay day for the month?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjwwQ9uleMg

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 19 2010, 7:15 PM 

Here is a bit of Britannica from the American Way. I just hate it when someone repeats a postings but the search memory doesn't always serves it purpose. Sorry again I would imagine this is old hat for the but for the purpose of newer viewers I think it may be worth showing. For an American to call something as familiar to them as this may be skating on thin ice. It is not my intention either through lack of attribution or hotlinking with impunity (I plea innocent) to make this estimable Forum something other than a Happy Circle. By now I hope people here know my intentions are pure.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=wespankTV#p/u/6/bKXDNut9Q9o

 
 

Doctor Dominum

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 19 2010, 10:29 PM 

Here is a little bit of Americana from the American Way. I enjoyed this post in spite of the fact that I got the stick in the Principal's office in second grade not much younger than Smiley appears. Rulers are for hands and sticks are for bottoms with the Sisters of No Mercy. The Nun wasn't at all like this Principal. His timing and severity sounded about right and he had a nice touch at the end (done and over with and no hard feelings). Pain as intend and he'll remember for I doubt he was punished like everyday or at least I hope IMHO this is the way corporal should be administered. I think even TWP would agree as long as it wasn't over heard. They made an example out of me by putting it on the intercom.

Americana?!? It's Smiley, one of Australia's most beloved and famous films. It co-starred Chips Rafferty and you don't get much more Australian than that. I was watching the 1950s episode of the Australian nostalgia series Barry Humphries' Flashbacks the other day and it had a section specifically on Smiley, so significant is it in Australia's cultural heritage (it was one of the films that reignited the Australian film industry).

America now owns Vegemite, it now owns our Tim Tams. It's stolen our Milo. Aeroplane Jelly flew into US hands. Enough is enough. It can't have Smiley!

The movie came out when I was at university and I've seen it quite a few times over the years, it's available on DVD as well and quite a few 'modern' Australian kids have seen it.

It's an interesting scene. A caning in a New South Wales state school at that time should have involved the cane on the hands according to the regulations, but nobody was likely to object to a respected local headmaster doing things a little differently if he had a reason. Smiley is trying to raise money to buy a bike, and to this end, he makes a deal with some of his friends to get himself caned to test an old school boy theory that rubbing rosin on your hands before being caned will split the cane, in exchange for money. His headmaster becomes aware of his plan and decides to cane him on the bottom instead. He can't have discipline in his school being treated like a way of making money. But there's certainly no ill will there and so he also gives Smiley some money towards his bike.

In a later scene we discover Smiley still made money on the deal from some of his friends and classmates by charging them to have a look at the stripes on his bottom.

My apologies to this estimable Forum if this has been shown before. It does show a "period piece" that I am sure can only be remembered by "super seniors". BTW. Maybe my handbook should ditch the paddle for the cane. It does require more technique and practice and hasn't been used for awhile so it would require training. Dr Dominum are you still retiring on April 1st and will be able to watch the upcoming documentary. It may not be wise since you tube (any fallout since the return of the students?) and your sister school headmistress identity would be revealed. Just a thought. Was it wise to choose April Fools day for the date of your resignation or is it pay day for the month?

Yes, I am still retiring at the start of April, and I'm looking forward to the documentary planned for sometime near the end of the year last I heard. Wise or not, it will be what it will be. April Fool's Day just happens to be the last day of first term in our schools calendar for this year (the last teaching day is 26th March, and we get rid of the boarders on the 27th, this gives us four days in the week before Good Friday to sort out any final transition issues). It's all based around the date of Easter - first term always is.

 
 
American Way

My Apologies Dr Dominum

January 20 2010, 2:13 AM 

Sorry. Juat think 1956 I got the stick (pointer) over the intercom for forgeting to put my name on the paper on a test that I got 100. It is a 1958 movie. I still remember as if it were yesterday of every test being given as the teacher called out the names of the other 50 kids. I studied Kohlberg stages and I can understand how trapped I was between my own Godly conscience with its sense of right and wrong up against her absolute authority. This is Corporal Punishment Lighter Side so I consider you a super senior chronologically and at times just soper as well. happy.gif

A freshly cut switch would be the instriment of correction.

Smiley Greevins is a cheeky, mischievous, imaginative little boy who lives in the small town of Murrumbilla in the Australian outback. His father Bill is a poor drover who is often away from home. Much to the exasperation of his overworked wife, Ma Greevins, Bill is also very fond of the drink. Smiley is determined to buy himself a push bike and so he takes on odd jobs in an effort to save up enough money. But Smiley always seems to get caught up in some sort of misadventure. Smiley is a classic Australian film that will delight audiences of all ages.

As I mentioned previously 2008 was the 100th aniversary of Ann of Green Gables and some politically correct schools are not allowing the school to put it on their reading list. Ann fresh out of college has to resort to corporal punishment on a girl who defied her on her first day of teaching. Tourists visit Prince Edward Island and it is a central attraction.

The anti-CP zaelots are so hypocritical when it comes to their position on censorship. The next thing will be Mark Twains Tom Sawyer thrown off the reading lists for its corporal punishment account.

 
 
prof.n

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 20 2010, 10:14 AM 



Hi American Way

Talking of censorship, of course the classic in regard to American schools has to be Robert Cormier's Chocolate war .Ok no corporal punishment , unless you count hitting a boy in the eye with a pointer ,but interesting that it united both liberal and conservatives States in banning the book to such an extent that , if you count the film version as well , its is one of the most banned books in education history

Ironic to think that the film makers changed the ending of the book so that the hero, Jerry Renault. wins the set up fight , rather than ending it in TU as in the book, but it still remains an absolute masterpiece on the use and abuse of absolutist power . In the film version (DVD area 1 only) the initial teaching scene with bother Leon is particularly strong, not to say in its own way both creepy and frightening.

There but for the grace of God.................

Nice to see that the book now appears on the RECOMMENDED list in Texas High Schools

 
 

Sorry =error

January 20 2010, 11:02 AM 



Last post TU should have read ITU............

Apologies

N.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 20 2010, 12:38 PM 

prof n You have made the thread reach that magical moment so soon that I haven't mastered the bottle green font sad.gif I had things mind and almost as cold as January those brave Femen crusaders happy.gif and since the only hotlink I can cool down is my morning coffee may I humbly suggest perusal of Imageshack ValdorUK in conjunction with this significant occasion for their are no direct flights to Kiev for the American Way. wink.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 21 2010, 7:49 PM 

Dorothy Spencer plan is is motivational technique that involves corporal punishment and here is a detailed plan of contractual and consenual corporal punishment. It is hard to believe although it may be familiar to some. IMHO seventy years ago people weren't aware of spanking as a fetish and more so on the receiving end than on the giving end. No pun intended.

http://spankingartwiki.animeotk.com/wiki/Text_of_the_Spencer_Spanking_Plan

 
 
American Way

Saudi-girl-13--sentenced-90-lashes-took-mobile-phone-school

January 24 2010, 2:03 AM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 25 2010, 2:22 PM 

On a lighter note my father was named after a British saint and when the Nun gave him the assignment when he was in fourth grade (1924) for the class to look up their saints name he returned from the public library and asked her I thought the British didn't go to heaven. The Nun replied saints lived there when they were all Catholics.

There is a popular play you have perhaps are familiar with about Sister Ignatious (Christopher Durang). Believe me they were not that kind nor that kind in my school. sad.gif

I don't know if you have heard the words "hyper kinetic" child? They told my folks that's what I was in first grade. Now people say of me he had potential. happy.gif

My Dad said the nuns in his day made the kids stick out their tongues and they would snap it with an elastic if they were talking. I suppose I should be grateful. Isn't there anyone out there that went to Catholic schools with corporal punishment stories? I would imagine it would be all boy schools with men teachers. It is a sexual fanatsy of some men to be hit by a woman. They would have gotten over that by fourth grade. wink.gif

For the 100th maybe someone can incorporate the Nuns for that milestone into the theme. Since Goodbye Hot Links I could only suggests pictorial links html and for the record I didn't know what jpg I understand and abide and that should not come to anyone's surprise.

 
 
American Way

Could post for milestone?

January 25 2010, 3:41 PM 

I would be eternally grateful if someone would post this for the milestone. Don't make me beg. sad.gif

1968 was my last year with Sisters of No Mercy and they were modifying their habits (more ways than one) in my senior year. It is a jpg so it will turn into a hotlink. wink.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 25 2010, 8:16 PM 

No need to beg. This is the picture. Now can the picture be shown in the milestone post without being considered hotlink? I hope I'm not considered to young to have memories of high school days. After all the style came here from the UK not from our too often maligned decadent culture. happy.gif

http://www.blingdomofgod.com/miniskirts-for-nuns.php

I know jpeg are taboo but php? miniskirts-for-nuns.php

Miniskirt Nuns

This bottom link makes me think it is for real as apart of a series.

Miniskirts Series

 
 

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 26 2010, 9:35 AM 



Hi American Way,

We are really dragging up the past today folks!

Diana Rigg, Jane Birkin, .........my early pinups............Interesting photos and text , real icons of the era!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 26 2010, 7:10 PM 

Maybe a stupid question? I recommended as an opus of the Ukranian demonstration Image Shack ValdorUK. As a possible registrant of image shack could that be posted on message boards without deleterious consequences?n And who would I write for permission to do so.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Tread warily!

January 27 2010, 12:46 AM 

American Way, you said:

I recommended as an opus of the Ukranian demonstration Image Shack ValdorUK. As a possible registrant of image shack could that be posted on message boards without deleterious consequences? And who would I write for permission to do so.

An interesting case. ValdorUK appears to have left their Image Shack account completely unlocked - if indeed Image Shack accounts can be locked, which I don't know. However I don't think this necessarily means that he or she would be happy for you to simply take images and put them in your own web space. You could certainly link to images, though hotlinking might be controversial. In fact you can readily access everything you need to link, hotlink or link by thumbnail to their images, but there doesn't seem to be any means of emailing them. Apparently this isn't a feature of Image Shack.

There is a problem though. Do ValdorUK's images belong to ValdorUK? Probably not! At least one I looked at is endorsed 'Ukrainian Foto' which is a Photo Agency. Photo Agencies don't usually give their photographs away free, so quite possibly ValdorUK is being rather naughty in displaying that and possibly other images. Equally he or she may be a member of Ukrainian Foto - you simply can't tell. Best leave well alone I'd say - but then I'm risk averse in this sort of area! As Prof.n has very wisely pointed out elsewhere, lawyers don't get to wear those $2000 suits by missing out on chances to take someone to the financial cleaners!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 27 2010, 4:12 AM 

The one room schoolmarm was part and parcel of vintage folklore. The first link is new and may be a recent cartoon but they represent a humorous look especially the last two previously posted that are classic postcards. Exceptional artwork all the way around IMHO. Passive linked. Are there any Ukranian Nuns available for the belated 100th milestone? wink.gif Alan Turing please take notice. happy.gif

Schoolmarm

Vintage Schoolmarm

Vintage Schoolmarm

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 27 2010, 7:10 PM 

This chapter in Graeme classic Just & Painful (Chapter 5) I have found the most shocking of all. Robospankers are for consenting adults is another matter. The video demonstration was previously posted. Different strokes for different folks or should I say shocks. wink.gif

By far the most famous receipient on national television (Howard Stern Show) received one in 2004 that some may know as Victoria Zdrok as a professional model. She wouldn't talk about John F Kennedy Jr however hard (maximum) she got it. She would not talk about him. Many girls were in the receiving end and none received it as hard. She begged to have her co-star to use her hand as photo (fourth link) when the pain became too excruciating. Dick Cheney would have gotten it out of her. happy.gif

Her thesis (less than a year before her spanking) is below for those who would contend she used her charms and scholar take a look. If she is not lying about her age (1973) she really is very bright indeed. She is Kiev (surprise!!!) happy.gif born Victoria Zelenetskaya. I will be returning sometime in the middle of February for mentoring and family responsibilities require my attention.

Electric Shock Fairest Punishment

Victoria the Scholar Thesis

Victoria the Biography

Victoria in Robospanker

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 27 2010, 7:17 PM 

She was born in 1973 and not 1983 as I calculated so she was 30 which makes sense because she dated our former President's son. She was fortunate not be on that plane. I need to focus my attention more. OTOH she looks great for over 30 doesn't she. Either way she is a remarkable woman if her biograohy is true.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 27 2010, 7:37 PM 

I was right about her age the first time but her thesis may have come later. Instead of high school it was deemed that she should attend college where she received a bachelorâs degree in psychology at the age of 18. At the age of 19 she was accepted into a prestigious joint law and psychology program hosted by Villanova Law School and Drexel University.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 6 2010, 3:54 PM 

Has this been posted either here or in Corpun?

Heavens forbid if I'm accused of breaking rules of this estimable Forum. Lifetime means that I'm not subject to recall. happy.gif So may I go out on a limb and say that far fewer of our Happy Circle who went to high school in the late sixties or early seventies so for some of us disrespectful of our elders. Our so-called younger posters (prof n I assume included) neither have cast aside their dignity nor are no ruder or self-centered that some have asserted and perhaps have forgotten the similar impact they may have had on the generation that preceded them. sad.gif

Dr Dominum you have always had the best interests of boys in your long career and I hope it is true in Australia as it is here (American Way) to write into their laws stiffer sentences for that pack of brutes that assaulted you because of your age. My prayers are with you and you have never treated me with anything less than respect and regard and anything in the previous paragraph certainly does not apply to you. Your recovery prof n is likewise in my prayers and thoughts.

 
 

respect agenda

February 6 2010, 6:13 PM 

Hi Americsan Way


Yes it has been posted here , as I recall once by myself and then in the Getty collection version by Another Lurker (If it was someone else who posted it apologies but I cant remember the link!).

However that doesn't matter for as you say , AW I like you am part of the disrespectful generation,( happy.gif ) from the 60's and 70's who clearly were not slapped down hard enough when we sassed our elders and betters!sad.gif Watch the Strawberry Statement to see how respectful the older generation were to us an our rights! happy.gifhappy.gif

But at least we are not part of the feral youth who tried to lay low our very own Doc ,Let us hope the police can be as diligent in this case as they were against anti war protests in our youth . (It was called Vietnam for the historically challenged).

Finally for the legally pernickety, and my $2,000 suited lawyer it is I believe copyright the Getty collection when it is so stamped , which this isnt, and the London Evening Standard in its other version. However Im sure that American Way has reproduced this under the International fair use doctrine for educational and research purposes onlyand no pecuniary or financial interest is involved Mlud ,happy.gifhappy.gif


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 6 2010, 8:49 PM 

prof n this is in the Ripley's Believe it or not category for I just opened my expanded Corporal Punishment of Schoolgirls and there on the back cover as I squeezed the book through the bubble wrapping were the protesting girls. I haven't made up my mind up whether Jenny is the girl smoking or looking at the boy passing by or the innocent girl on the far left who would break a teachers heart to have to cane. The girl with the popsicle would be more my type. wink.gif

BTW I paid 28 pounds (publishers face value I think) and am more than please at that price. prof n with the lovely tennis player lusciously illustrated found on page 194 195 be a professor when Google? prof n how are they able to avoid the $2,000 suit lawyers with these illustrations? Is it done under the aegis of an educational documentary? sad.gif

Ii has the IBSN 1899861386 that I'm giving so as not to buy the earlier thinner edition that I already had. prof n do you know any similat resource on the matket?

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 6 2010, 9:16 PM 

I'm sorry not The girl with the popsicle would be more my type but next to the girl who would break a teachers heart. She looks like a handful. wink.gif

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 6 2010, 9:59 PM 

Hi American Way. As regards the picture of the mini-skirted schoolgirls demonstrating against the cane that you link above, Prof.n is correct, it has been posted before, you'll find the first mention of it in my post at 01:08 on October 26 2009 in the shirtless PE thread.

In the subsequent posts in the thread Prof.n and I link versions of the photograph and there is much discussion of various aspects of the picture, ranging from whether you can still encounter hemlines like that today (you can happy.gif) to the likely nature of the item concealed under the right sock of the second young lady from the left. The conclusion in the latter case was that it was probably very closely related to the item held in the right hand of the girl second from the right, which would have led to an appointment with the Headmistress's cane at Jenny's school! happy.gif

Your version of the photograph is quite the best one I have seen unencumbered by library branding or flaws of some sort. Do you by any chance have the URL of the Blog? or website you found it on please? I can't derive the URL of the source site from the URL of the picture, and I'd very much like to see any comments that were posted with the picture.

The reason I'm interested this, as noted in the 01:08 post mentioned above, is that I once saw a suggestion on a website that the picture was faked (ie set up) for the press, together with some evidence for this. Another poster in the 'shirtless PE' thread, Oliver_S, also recalled seeing this claim. Sadly I've never been able to find the site again and clearly any site containing the picture, including your source, might be the one!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 6 2010, 11:53 PM 

I'm glad that in spite of it being a repeat the quality was of some avail. The third comment may be of interests to you. What do you make of R Humphries comment? Just google classic caning pics February 2 so as to keep it a family forum therefore I'll reference it with a caveat and assume I'm following Forum Management policy in doing so.

 
 
American Way

Hopeless Search

February 7 2010, 9:18 AM 

Veteran viewers of this Happy Circle have probably thought the issue of Charlotte Hiley had been put to rest and maybe I'm wrong in resurrecting it. http://www.network54.com/Forum/198833/message/1110374320/Rawhide+No+4

I will now with prof n affirming call our dear readers attention to page 194 to 195 in the recent edition of the Corporal Punishment of School Girls. Alas there is nothing new in the body of the text in Margaret Stone's documentary previously linked below. If one can determine that Professor Charlotte Hiley Google her was born in 1971 that would make her existing more convincing. Maybe the school thought a disavowal would only add furel to the flame but they could have easily done so. Maybe someone can recognize the person who is putported to be in the tennis pictures. There is a play on the words out of bounds that raises my suspicions that the story was made up indeed. In any case if you were looking for a cover girl for school corporal punishment (whatever part of her anatomy - Hiley on her hiny - she was struck) wink.gif look no further than page 195 IMHO with her slight resemblance to Princess Diana of blessed memory.

http://www.whogotspanked.com/st.audries.htm

 
 
American Way

German Comedy Another Klassenkeile Like Spanking

February 8 2010, 10:13 PM 

Germany forty years ago featured comedies where students played pranksters on their unwitting faculty. These were not racy films but involved mainstream viewers. The genre of comedy where spanking played a role in a school room setting was standard fare. Klassenkeile photo that appeared earlier was hotlinked do the URL photo series of the film is first linked. Also a film (English translation - Twenty Girls and the Teachers 1971) or zwanzig-maedchen-und-ein-pauker-heute-steht-die-penne-kopf are of the same genre. I was the age of many of these students at the time of the filming. Gerhard Lippert puts Mascha Gonska aptly named (Trixi) over his knee and spanks her in the video as an English teacher dramatizing the Taming of the Shrew is second linked. Trixi proved incorrigible and was sent to this all girl school after being expelled. The URL for the photo series of Twenty Girls and the Teachers is the last link.

Klassenkeile Photo Series

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/R8ffcPvO-Twenty-Girls-and-the-Teachers-1971

Twenty Girls and the Teachers Photo Series

 
 

May 1972

February 8 2010, 11:34 PM 

American Way wrote:
Has this been posted either here or in Corpun?

No, it hasn't yet been posted on Corpun. I have possessed a copy of the picture for a long time but I cannot work out where it was ever published, if at all. It is from May 1972 when there were a few over-hyped demonstrations by a handful of schoolkids in London (see
http://www.corpun.com/uksc7205.htm ). The picture agency credits the photo to the London Evening Standard for a date in early May 1972 but I have not found it in actual copies of the Evening Standard in the library, or any of several other London-based newspapers around those few weeks. I put off uploading the pic to my site till I could find the newspaper article with which it allegedly appeared, but I'm thinking of giving up the search and just using it on my Picture Parade page.

 
 
American Way

Paddles Signed Jimmy Carter Middle School

February 10 2010, 2:26 AM 

This video I hope puts to rest those who claim paddles are not being signed today at 1:40 into the video New Mexico is a state that requires training in the use of the paddle and IMHO this boys bruises are not egregious and I'm glad it seems highly unlikely that the mother will get very far with her grievance. She permits it and then flips out when she sees bruises. I'm sure this will be in Corpun for March. Give me a break because he cries it is brutal? After listening to her this video does belong in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZWa03quYB0

 
 
American Way

Vintage Picture

February 10 2010, 5:46 AM 

Hamming up. What year would you think this was taken from the i.telegraph.co.UK multimedia archive? This looks like something that would be illustrated. I thought it was worth sharing if not alread shown. I wonder when this picture was taken. The spectators I found amusing. Is the boy closest trying not to see it or already had his turn and was crying?

Vintage CP photo


 
 

Another_Lurker

Whacko!

February 10 2010, 8:04 AM 

Hi American way. You ask of the photograph in the link you posted above:

What year would you think this was taken from the i.telegraph.co.UK multimedia archive?

I don't follow entertainment media very closely, and I'm surprised Steve hasn't beaten me to it happy.gif but I'd say the late 1950s/early 1960s. The photograph shows 'Professor' Jimmy Edwards, a UK comedian who had a TV show called 'Whacko!' about the fictitious Chiselbury School For the Sons of Gentlefolk. Caning featured prominently in the show. One of the boys was called Wendover, and 'Bend over, Wendover' was a frequent line. The show also led to a film called 'Bottoms Up!'.

I think if you search YouTube you'll find the odd clip of the show.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 10 2010, 12:07 PM 

Obviously the boy doesn't strike the girls in the below video but this too happened in Catholic schools (not of course being struck). The punishment is based on domestic experience and not school discipline and technically is off topic because the punishment is not corporal unless it goes on for a long time. Today time outs are familar with toddlers but with us until high school although my eight grade teacher never resorted to that (small comfort). sad.gif The two who were talking (especially with Sister Mary Lucifer in seventh grade) they were sent with their nose to the blackboard (anachronism for chalkboard) for at least a half hour (not a comfortable experience and akin to the American frontier days with the dunce caps. When students go on field trips they visit one room school houses with the hickory stick and the dunce cap in full view. The kids are not allow to wear the dunce cap or teachers toich the stick because they're antiques but I'm sure some have broken the rule.

I guess because boys were less likely to chat with girls it was never a boy with a girl. Boys and girls were divided in the playground at recess or during lunch recess (there was no cafeteria) so lunches were chowed down quickly in the classroom with time to spare. Of course we were told it was because boys played rougher and we didn't mind until we grew older because we didn't jump rope or play jacks. Of course at puberty we always wanted to play two hand tag football with the girls (in place of tackle on asphalt) with a definite place in the plan. wink.gif I suppose we would go to jail for that now under sexual harassment but you can't get arrested for what you're thinking. wink.gif

Does this bring back memories across the pond?

Another My Space not adult discretion (joey is not a spanko like Bad Daddy) happy.gif video.

Google: girls get due punishment joey

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 10 2010, 12:57 PM 

Mea culpa-mea-culpa-mea maxima-culpa. Duh I knew I saw that photo from the internet archives (my favorite resource with their Canadian library repertoire) that I have frequently mentioned. Shame on me and I even posted it before. sad.gif Moi losing my memory? No way Jose. happy.gif As I said it is embarrassing with someone who prides himself for having a great memory. Do you know what you call Irish alzheimers and/or dementia? When you forget everything but your enemies and your grudges. happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Dare I repeat!!!

February 10 2010, 4:06 PM 

Next to hot linking (I'm passively linking in case some have not noticed) repeating url's annoys (I'll dare to repeat Whacko) some readers here think I'm self centered and rude. I asume many appreciate the repeat url and not all find me that way and in more ways than one that is not (the American Way) at least for the most part. happy.gif

Ease up English is my second language. I am an American although not all are as unskilled or as comma and semi-colon phobic. Someone said way back that some lawyers write my way but be that as it may I own no $2,000 suits prof n. Maybe someone who owns Margaret Stone's book could please send the Framework for the Future directly to Renee et al email to avoid all copyright issue or send them 32 quid. happy.gif Everytime I go anywhere near violating a copyright a gang (albeit a minority) jump on me as if I am a college plagiarists deserving expulsion. Don't get me wrong I am a happy member of this Happy Circle but like any family member have the right and I feel strongly the duty (to send message to others who may feel as victimized although I'm the first to admit because of my minority status am more sensitive to express oneself without undue and IMHO (counts for nothing for some) undeserved censure. Back to my first cuppa not culpa.

http://www.archive.org/details/WhackoCorporalPunishment

 
 
R.G. Tracker

RE: Dare I repeat!!!

February 10 2010, 5:20 PM 

"...some readers here think I'm self centered and rude." (American Way)

No, you are not self-centered and rude. We don't allow people like that on here. Your surrealism gives us lot in Sussex a bloody good laugh.

Keep passive linkin'! Keep postin'!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 11 2010, 6:49 PM 

Is my surrealism caused by comma and segue less writing or my metaphoric narratives? If all of the above which more than the other? Surrealism is not an affectation for me but is an unconscious stream of consciousness and I'm glad to bring some sunshine (hopefully more light than heat) deprived Sussex and environs.

Is this posting itself surreal?

 
 
R.G. Tracker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 11 2010, 7:53 PM 

Yes...probably...possibly.

Tennyson was very near the mark when he had it thus:

"Despite what was writ by hcj
There's nothing rude about American Way."

 
 
hcj

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 11 2010, 10:43 PM 

I take it that would be Fred Tennyson, the ballroom dancer and coal merchant from Saltdean?

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 12 2010, 8:15 PM 

My sister went to public schools in the early 1950's and the boys and girls had to wear a dunce cap. She got one for being late in 5th grade. I guess that meant you were dumb because you couldn't read a clock. She is a retired school teacher she is extremely punctual and annoyed with me when I'm 5 minutes late so I guess it has worked. happy.gif Catholic schools brought their traditions from across the Atlantic while public schools continued American traditions. Here a few girls who suffered my sisters fate hamming it up. But it wasn't funny for the boy for the google article in 1994. Then was then and no is now and it is what it is with the $2,000 suits and I don't mean law suits. happy.gif

I only saw one girl cry two different times when punished. She got double time for hitting a girl. I think a boy would get the stick for the same offense. It was basically 5 minutes for every grade of what the Sisters of No Mercy called "nose time". She cried so Sister Lucifer doubled her time in 7th grade and spent at least an hour against the wall. The Nun in eight grade made that same girl I was fond of put bubble gum on her nose. Still happens here 2006. She didn't even make a bubble for crying out loud. I was sad in a way but happy in another because I was there for her to be a shoulder she could cry on. happy.gif I couldn't cry because it was a few weeks after the incident that made me never cry again. sad.gif prof n worries about hands but has extended me no symapathy for my knuckles. sad.gif Wall discipline and dunce caps were a way avoiding corporal punsihment. Almost 50 years later I ask why her? Her father was a trustee in the Church so he would back up the Nun and she was alo the youngest and were being held to a higher standard.
By the way the girls are dressed up in second video so it must have been a reception with a baby crying in the reception hall. My best guess is these South Carolina girls lost a bet on a dare or got free drinks for doing it for it certainly wasn't their idea. wink.gif The girls knew they weren't going to be hit but they were growing tiresome. sad.gif

Wall Discipline


Nose to the Wall Girls

2006 Gum on Nose


1994 Lawsuit Against Dunce Cap Punishment


Dunce Part I


Dunce Part II


Dunce Part III

 
 
American Way

Fun Nun

February 13 2010, 1:38 PM 

I thought this serious article by a Nun on the change of the habit would be interesting because of its London reference. The cartoon spoofs the intermediary period. They went from a severe look to a more contemporary habit (cartoon) to regular clothes in the late seventies and emblem representing their order on a lapel. I went grammar school with the severe look (attire and attitudes) in grammar school to a more contemporary look. You're missing out on a laugh of you don't click the passive link. I think the reason why I post so often under a thread I initiated is because of my sick humor. I trust that you're not growing tired of it. happy.gif

http://www.sturdyroots.org/PDFs/CF/CF_EichnerHabitpdf.pdf

Cartoon Intermediary Period Nun Habit

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 13 2010, 1:52 PM 

Sample for those interested in posting images.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/pricing.asp

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 14 2010, 8:12 PM 

It's humorous and I've made it a carry over from Uneasy Martix thread that has become a catch all. The video of course has partial nudity so don't click if it makes you ticked. To my knowledge they didn't get arrested and they didn't bare their bottoms so they don't deserved to be caned there. Maybe a taste of the XH lochleghy is in order. If they were over 18 in 1982 they may have had a taste of CP and developed one. wink.gif Would that be the case in Twickenham? Are there people here who live near there?

A good trivia question and might get you a free drink about her companion. I bet they don't even remember in Twickenham. happy.gif Now be honest many people can name Erica Roe but can you remember her friend who took to the pitch topless at the same time? The friend was less well endowed than Erica and name almost disappeared from the internet but not from my link searches. Her name? Be honest and tell me if you remembered?

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1852092/busty_erica_roe_first_streaker_at_twickenham/

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 21 2010, 11:19 PM 

Corpun astutely linked the selling of corporal punishment with advertising. Times sure have changed in a blink of an eye or sixty years. Wives didn't have an easy lot nor did their husbands that tried often in vain to control them. wink.gif What will sixty years from now will they be laughing over us? Perish the thought.

http://www.corpun.com/sell.htm

http://www.retro-housewife.com/good-wife-guidelines.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIKsQ127BWM

http://www.creepygif.com/image.php?i=577

 
 
American Way

Legend of Sleepy Hollow Washington Irving

February 27 2010, 11:51 AM 

Humorous account of 19 century American school life history.

A selection of Ichabod Crane (Jared Bess) in the schoolhouse scene with musical number "Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child" from Gotta Dance! Gotta Sing! Teen Theatre's production of "Sleepy Hollow the Musical". Directed and choreographed by Randy Souza. What a show! Enjoy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxoXMfdq4hE



http://books.google.com/books?id=KoljIfxX8uUC&dq=ichabod+crane&source=gbs_navlinks_s

 
 
American Way

The Spanking Writers Abel & Haron

February 28 2010, 5:21 PM 

Google digitilizes books galore and if you wade through this one you will find some worthwhile and have historical references to school corporal punishment. Some of the stories are funny so I put it in this thread. I'm not sure if this particular piece from this author has appeared here?

The Spanking Writers

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 28 2010, 5:24 PM 

Please let me know if you find this offensive? I won't share similar links if many readers find this offensive. I may pushing the envelope.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 10 2010, 12:32 AM 

Sun reporter Crittenden takes a spanking from Michael Foote, The Bookworm, after Crittenden made four spelling mistakes in a test she took yesterday at the Encyclopedia Britannica booth.

Spell Check


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 10 2010, 8:04 AM 

Now, Sammy, you are frightfully behind to-day." "Yes sir, it's cos you hit so hard."


http://www.cardcow.com/85000/spanking-spanking/

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 10 2010, 9:27 AM 

I am listing this under this thread because their accusation against our very own Renee is so ludicrous that they will stoop as low as it goes to attack or very own Renee. What goes on behind closed doors as Charlie Pride sings? They in all likelihood hotlinked this from this fetish site that shows a profesional adult model braced for an apparent paddling. I believe stophitting took their picture and doctored it from the same adult site for their mockery of Renee's scientific experiment.

As is so often the case the case the anti CP zealots accuse others of having fetish while they themselves "hotlink" from adult sites.

thehittingstopshereurstory.com/forum/index.php?topic=197.msg205#msg205

How Low Can the anti-CP zealots Go?



 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 20 2010, 1:30 PM 

Unique non CP punishment for dress code violators. Brings back the days of yore punishment dress? Not in your dreams or my worse nightmare. wink.gif It gives the Texas Inmates something to do than making license plates. happy.gif

Newspaper Story

Story follow up


 
 
American Way

Thin Skinned

March 20 2010, 2:42 PM 

Forum management. Is passsive linking of all images from every site even with attribution taboo for every site? If it is I'll gladly abide as everyone should know by now. Another source of annoyance is that my postings of late have such large bottom margins. Why is this so or should I ask that question under computer corner or should I scroll through the 250 some odd postings to find out why if it has been dealt with already? Before some pounces on me and perhaps with undue delight tell me to preview do need to remind you that I'm not the village idiot? A gentle reminder (I mentioned this is a previous posting when taken to task) I occasionally do when as prolific (not my words but none truer) I am. It should be understandable as was my corpun slip and the subsequent slip of spelling Colin's last name Farrel and not Farrell. It is sad that I feel I almost have to correct that before someone needlessly remind me that I'm not perfect. I was amused by one poster who wrote the I perhaps set a record for longest space. That member of this estimable Forum has a sense of humor and that's an observation not a criticism on his or her part and that is laudatory and is worthy of this estimable Forum.

 
 
R.G. Tracker

Re: Thin Skinned

March 20 2010, 7:42 PM 

Keep passive linking!
But only to complete pages
Such as those created
By our favourite updater.
It is best not to passive link
To images alone
(Even with attribution)
Bottom margins are beyond the control
Of us lot in Sussex and Thornton Heath:
Governed by Network54 men are they
Down your way.
Half a league, half a league onward!
But only God can make a tree.
(Tennyson)

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 20 2010, 7:57 PM 

Thanks.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Village Idiot

March 20 2010, 9:44 PM 

Hi American Way. You said above:

do need to remind you that I'm not the village idiot?

Indeed you are not! Perish the thought! I take that role myself when occasion demands, but at present the post is being very ably filled by Toby-John.

Mind you, along the way he's dropped a number of clues which indicate to the contrary, the latest of them being that he's fully conversant with binary arithmetic, (although strictly his post should have been entitled 000011111111 not 000100000000, as that's what it was). In due course I shall be getting out the water-boarding equipment and politely requesting him to reveal just a little bit more about who he is and what he knows, but for the time being that will have to take its place behind more urgent matters! happy.gif

Hi R.G. Tracker. A magnificent bit of poetry! I ought to know what that form is called, but the name escapes me. Perhaps you, or one of our knowledgeable readers, would be be kind enough to remind me.

 
 
R.G. Tracker

That bit of poetry

March 20 2010, 10:16 PM 

My colleagues tell me that it is a form much favoured by Tennyson known as Via Americus Surrealus, although I think there may be some mistake with adjectival agreement. If so, a member of our PhD table community may be able to supply the correct version.

 
 
American Way

Nuns Funny

March 21 2010, 6:35 PM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 23 2010, 7:47 AM 

The initial encounter where Britta Perry disrespects Nana Barnes expression of who are you? Britta's ongoing reaction of what a black family whuppin is IMHO a funny intersection of cultures the American Way. Troy saying initially you can't do that she's not family and britta having no idea what a branch is used for other and tauntingly looking for one over Tro's strong objections. than a ruler (Im no Nun bend over get over my lap is another) is another culture clash. Gillian Jacobs the actress was brought up in a very white Catholic city. Her enetering the room with the switch with no idea what she was in store for is in another foursome photo I that I shiold have favorited and may find yet. Britta's expression is like ouch that's OK. Ouch this is beginning to hurt. Ouch this is more than I bargained for too bawling like a baby.

I say anguish for sure. The acting stopped by frame four. My grandma died when I was two and that tradition wasn't passed down. I was tormented enough in school. ): In a way teaching Britta manners and running over a Nun are both my fantasy.

http://communitythings.tumblr.com/post/451273730/squintyoureyes-troys-nana-who-are-you


Learning to respect her monster


My monster

 
 
American Way

50 Paddle Mark Competition

March 23 2010, 8:09 PM 

She wouldnt be bending over 50 times if she respected her elders. Gentle paddling like Everton TX must be the rule in this school. Ive transferred this vignette to complement the photos of Nana Barnes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkTI1pxJI1o

corporal punishment in Texas. From the Texas Teachers Chatboard

Posted by: PsyGuy on 3/12/10
Oh Im appaled at the practice. This is a middle school, and its become
something of a question of pride for the students one student is hoping
she hits the "50 paddle" mark before the end of the year, as it will be
the record at our campus.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 25 2010, 4:00 AM 

I noticed Nancy the girl paddled is an honor student studying clinical psychology at the University of Arkansas.

Norman Rockwell Child Psychology

Commentary




 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 27 2010, 7:32 PM 

Dunces & Scored Paddled

Every teacher knows my name
they hear it and go insane
So many swats that I couldn't keep score
That's what I grew all this padding for!

 
 
American Way

Volleyball (Corporal ?)Punishment

March 30 2010, 5:18 AM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 31 2010, 9:03 PM 

Ball beaning fallout. sad.gif

Beaning

 
 
American Way

Karaoke

April 4 2010, 5:03 PM 

The Cover of the Rolling Stone.

http://teachers.net/gazette/DEC08/humor/

 
 
American Way

Lizzy the Lezzy

April 6 2010, 8:24 PM 

Senior proms and Mississippi. Little wonder Michelle Obama (First Lady) is fighting against the childhood obesity epidemic.

Lizzy the Lezzy happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

Lesbian XXL Girl sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif

My Prom Music wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 6 2010, 10:11 PM 

Since this is decidedly from a porn site I hesitated to post. Awhile back I mentioned that I was through with the Ukrainian Femen protestors but I followed up Image Shack recommendation of treading wearily back in January by a member of this estimable Forum ValdorUK. Come to find out he runs on a fetish site "spankstatement" Im not surprised that the British Site picked up on it.

"British spanking" is an adult fetish site and in keeping with the good taste of this estimable Forum I will not give a direct link. I was going to copy and paste the text only for I'm sure the photo journalists part of the story has been exhausted by my ample postings (hence my saying I wouldnt past again on this matter).

Google kristina novitskaya femen spanking and go from there. She was the girl with the second sorest bottom.

What have the girls been up to? This photo was taken on April 1.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/femen/4493034507/ and why I am posting it under this thread and not the courage to submit.

 
 
American Way

Wall Discipline

April 8 2010, 9:13 PM 

Boys are having their fun with girls possibly from South Carolina in modest prom dresses happy.gif This is a previous post. Principal would have generated less controversy with Murgha (holding a humiliating position) American Way.

Girls Getting their due punishment

Wall Discipline happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif



 
 
American Way

Tennis Sore Losers

April 11 2010, 2:16 AM 

Memories: First part commentary on famed tennis girl rubbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvVNBJ7VFs8

Pretty Girl happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

Pretty ugly sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif


 
 
American Way

Dress Codes

April 11 2010, 9:57 PM 


 
 
American Way

OOPS

April 11 2010, 10:27 PM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 17 2010, 6:25 AM 

A Crestwood 16 year old girl was arrested after her Dad tried to spank her. Story previously posted but I haven't found from their local paper how the case was disposed of.I would imagine she got a slap on the I sure as heck wouldn't want to try to be that one over my knee. Officers bring her to justice.

Murray Strauss unh cartoon on paternal discipline of daughters.

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/dad-girl.pdf

Try spanking her happy.gif

16 year old girl arrested for punching her Dad for trying to spank her

 
 
American Way

Spare the Rod Spare the Fun

April 17 2010, 1:43 PM 

This is another example of how the south is mocked for paddling in the school. Don't tell me this is not off topic. sad.gif

 
 

Another_Lurker

Oops!

April 18 2010, 4:33 AM 

Hi American Way. I'm very sorry about this, I do seem to question rather a lot of your posts. I think that's possibly because you post rather more than average! In this case I think you've posted another 'fake' picture and given a rather flippant and incorrect description to a serious item.

However the blogger on whose site you found it has described it, the picture of the two policemen carrying the girl, that you've linked above as 'Try spanking her' is nothing to do with the girl arrested for punching her father when he tried to spank her. It is one of a series of photographs taken of the arrest of a young woman at a demonstration in a US city a couple of years ago. I can't recall the city but I seem to recall that the demonstration was something to do with cycling and that the girl was one of the cyclists arrested. If you look in the background of the picture you'll see lots more police officers where the demonstration is still on-going, including several cycle cops (white cycle helmets, like the one carrying the girl's legs).

The PDF file that you've described as 'Murray Strauss unh cartoon on paternal discipline of daughters.' is not a cartoon. It is a serious bit of kit called a Parent-to-Child Conflict Tactices Scale, intended to be used to show to children when a suspect parent-child relationship is being professionally investigated. For details see:

Straus, M.A. (1979). "Measuring Intrafamily Conflict and Violence: The Conflict Tactics (CT) scales." Journal of Marriage and the Family, 41, 75-88.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 18 2010, 7:23 AM 

The authenticity of the picture? I was outraged that the school would allow it and in retrospect it was wasted out rage sue me. Words like demur and flippant shouldn't be associated with my name for being understandably. I hope you weren't holding your breath waiting for me to weigh in on its photographic merits. For crying out loud what did you expect me to do apologize? I didn't even think of rebutting. I appreciated the clarification in the name of authenticity.

The police dressed like that in a small town that was done jocularly on my part; I assumed it would be taken that way, that was my fault. I should have explicitly noted it as a joke, simply by using an emoticon happy.gif I could have escaped, your seeming to me at least, your too frequent burdensome pedantry.

The cartoon part I did need enlightening about the context and was a point well taken. I learn a lot from my fellow posters here and despite being annoyed I am deeply appreciative. Murray Strauss library may consist of only comic books. sad.gif

The authenticity of the picture? Taking pictures of Samantha Woodley bending over with jeans and maybe here again are tactics that out rage me. The elementary school picture is a judgment call for in the context of a meeting it may have been used to imply that teachers there did use it on girls that size but then again maybe not? It is over dramatizing.


What's my point in reference to pictures in the first place that seems to be dwarfed by technical matters? The anti-CP will stoop to anything to make a point. This is taken from one of their sites.

Can I prove the paddle wasn't used on that girl? No. Can I prove the girl toweling off is none other than the girl bending over in what appeared to me to be a school corridor. No. Maybe they got lucky and found come calypygian beauty like the very lovely paddle slut Samantha Woodley close to her graduation? Was she visiting the UK without her Burberry? wink.gif

Samantha Woodley Singing in the Rain

I would assume readers here have seen more nuanced evolution in my position on school corporal punishment. This I owe to my involvement on searching out sites; my criticism is on the fairness of their tactics and not their stridency.

Tactics I sad.gif

Putting Paddling in Perspective

This picture should put the issue of paddling in perspective. This is not a photo of an actual elementary student being paddled; it is a demonstration being done at a school board meeting in order to convince authorities that paddling in schools needs to end. This little girl is obviously an elementary school student, and the school paddle is being placed near her backside to show how much that paddle can hurt a child. Can you imagine a child being hit with that in the name of discipline?!
**************************************************************************************



This is a photograph of a high school girl's bruises after being beaten with a paddle at her Texas high school.

The anti-CP lobby succeeded to safe search this clearly X-Rated picture and assert what they did above. Click Tactics II and ask yourself is this a high school senior?


Tactics II sad.gif

 
 
American Way

Appropriate Corporal Punishment to Stop Young People Smoking

April 20 2010, 2:47 AM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 27 2010, 1:41 AM 

Erica DeRamus in her totally inappropriate attire. She was breaking not only the community standards there but almost everywhere. How could she have not known that she was going to suffere consequences not to her liking? She didn't come anywhere near complying that IMHO was order of magnitude too strict from college standards.

What is my mama doing? (Me and my Lil Big Cuzin Tray)

http://www.facebook.com/people/Erica-DeRamus/507182386

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

June 7 2010, 4:24 AM 

This picture of a girl in a dunce cap I found amusing. It's from the spank statement site that some may find offensive as in vintage erotic. It does not carry an adult content warning. The girl is fully clothed and I would be surprised if, given the site, she wasn't British. I suppose outside of Australia punishment of this sort is considered verboten. Maybe not the dunce cap but similar forms of non-corporal punishment. As I mentioned before my older sister classmates in the public schools was subject to this ritual humiliation.

Classroom dunce

 
 
American Way

Dunce Catoon

June 7 2010, 5:17 AM 


 
 
American Way

Paddling Nuns

June 12 2010, 7:41 AM 

Surfboard or psychedelic ironing board happy.gif

Surfs Up

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

June 12 2010, 8:13 AM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

June 14 2010, 1:03 AM 

A bit of amusing American history and corporal punishment:

A funny story by Nixola Greeley-Smith, prominent journalists, granddaughter of Horace Greeley, suffragist and New York socialists part candidate. The Gibson cartoon portrays caricature of married society life.

http://antiqueclippings.blogspot.com/2007/04/husbands-thrive-on-spanking-some-wives.html

Life of Nixola Greeley-Smith

Marital Bliss wink.gif


 
 
American Way

Sign spank form b4 unrefundable payment.

June 27 2010, 5:04 PM 

I went to look at the staff of Hanford Christian School that dedicate a good portion of their printed materials on punshments and it makes one think about how regimented their their teachers schooling is? Their educational background involving a handful of like minded schools like Dordt I find troublesome. I have never seen so many lean and elongated faces. "Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous". wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

They make you paddle your child in front of them perhaps because they are swatting sparingly in their biblical POV.

http://www.hanfordchristian.org/staff.htm

http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=3169

Calvin Christian Academy usage of b4 I found amusing and worthy of this thread.

Student Name:_________

I understand that, at Calvary Christian Academy, spanking is used as a form of punishment for students in grades K-4 through 6. When this form of discipline is necessary, I will expect to be inform by telephone, and will also expect to be inform after the fact of reason for the discipline by a note sent home with my child.

Option:
01. By my signature, I hereby give my consent to the school to discipline my child by spanking. ( )

Option:
02. I prefer to administer the discipline myself, but I agree to do so in front of the appropriate school official. I understand that my child will not be allowed to return to class until the discipline has been administered.

I understand that Calvary Christian Academy is not a reform school and any student requiring excessive administrative intervention will be released from school.


Signed: ______________________________ Date:__________________
Parent's Signature

Now, who would like to send their children to Calvary but make sure you sign the agreement b4 payment because it's not refundable.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

June 27 2010, 10:19 PM 

I mention the sisters of no mercy so frequently so I feel it incumbent upon me to share with you a visit to Dublin where I remembered to pray for the canonization for Mother Catheine McCauley every day from grades 1 to 8 after the pledge of allegiance. Lot good it did her, Maybe she is praying for the salvation. Baggot St memorializes her but the sisters of no mercy are not my cop of tea. sad.gifhttp://www.mercyworld.org/projects/catherine/index.asp


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 3 2010, 9:14 PM 

I'm sure there is nothing new here for our veteran members of this Happy Circle but I found Bottoms Up Number 6 particularly amusing. I'm sure this was a popular show in the UK. Unlike Benny Hill this show never found its way here. In any event, I thought it appropriate to post it in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/user/paweng1#p/u



 
 
prof.n

not at all serious

July 4 2010, 11:13 PM 


 
 
American Way

I hate Britain Day

July 5 2010, 11:10 PM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0GX_qzwVi4&feature=player_embedded

I hate Britain Day. Posted without comment by the American Way.



 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 12 2010, 6:54 AM 

This is a gem. Since riding on a mechanical animal became an amusement at a prom it is fun to note riding on an ass was an appropriate punishment in the years of yore in North Carolina where corporal punishment i still legal. The offenses would also qualify for a posting in this thread.
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/nchist-newnation/4342


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 12 2010, 7:01 AM 

Jenny Copied and pasted for your benefit. I would feel deprived as a boy not to see as a punishment the excruciatingly degrading punishment of seeing Jenny riding on an ass. Such gender exclusion for offenses of this nature I would find particularly annoying. sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif

The girls must remember that the exemptions to which their sex entitles them are to be used as a shield, and not as a sword; and they are therefore enjoined to eschew the abominable and unlady-like habit of indulging in sarcasms and attempted wit at the expense of the boys. Whenever a girl loses the docility, gentleness, and benignity of manners becoming her sex, she forfeits her title to the forbearance and defferential courtesy of the males.


 
 
Jenny

Unfair Punishments?

July 12 2010, 2:45 PM 

Hi American Way

Since riding on a mechanical animal became an amusement at a prom it is fun to note riding on an ass was an appropriate punishment in the years of yore in North Carolina where corporal punishment i still legal.

When I was a little girl, I thought having a ride on a donkey at the seaside was a treat. If I had known then I was being punished, I'd have misbehaved a lot more often than I did. happy.gif I still don't know what I was being punished for though. wink.gif

Jenny Copied and pasted for your benefit. I would feel deprived as a boy not to see as a punishment the excruciatingly degrading punishment of seeing Jenny riding on an ass. Such gender exclusion for offenses of this nature I would find particularly annoying. sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif

As do I. The very idea of excusing misbehaviour on account of the offender's sex is an affront to justice.





 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 12 2010, 4:30 PM 

Jenny, I enjoyed your response. I was hoping to find the samples that he didn't find worthy of exclusion by tracking down the book. Chapter three applies.

The piece is fiction and can be enjoyed in situ in the link provided with the end of chapter 3. I'm sure it's based on fact. I wished I had all fifty examples and not just excerpts. The omissions could because he didn't write them from the start.

Calvin Henderson Wiley, 1819-1887
Alamance; Or, the Great and Final Experiment.
New York: Harper & Brothers, 1847.

http://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/wiley/menu.html

http://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/wiley/wiley.xml

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 14 2010, 9:34 PM 

The archives of this particular newspaper archives has become treasure trove of amusement. Mrs Walter Ferguson has been from a previous such a source. I don't know what beauty has to do with towel spanking but something has to be left to the imagination. Mrs Ferguson seems resentful perhaps bereft of those charms. happy.gif Being hit with a rolled up wet towel has already been mentioned here. Not exactly germane to school corporal punishment but close enough. wink.gif Enjoy.

Towel Spanking a Beauty Queen


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 16 2010, 8:58 PM 

Onions can smell like polecats and if segregation doesn't work whipping will. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

Saturday manicures and cat fights in Alabama prison beauty salons. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

Alabama Onion Tears


Montgomery AL manicures

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 16 2010, 9:08 PM 

The onion tears were from country roads West Virginia. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-cPvsH1_I8

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 17 2010, 3:56 AM 

Ten year old boy refuses to kiss and make up to a girl. I don't blame him. wink.gif He is whipped three times and still won't. Teacher arrested. New York Times 1880.

CLICK

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 17 2010, 12:49 PM 

Spanking and college ten commandments.

CLICK

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 19 2010, 8:06 PM 

Too funny not to share. Son's engagement is off. There was a sense of entitlement over young adult. For those aghast at 17 year olds being paddled today this is nothing compared to this humorous account in 1906.

CLICK

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 19 2010, 8:35 PM 

1914 edition of my beloved matrices from 2 to 18. happy.gif Notice the variety of the instruments of correction. America was truly a melting pot. Also the engagement being called off link from the previous post is the second link.

CLICK

CLICK

 
 

StevefromSE5

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 19 2010, 8:57 PM 

AW


Someone got their wires crossed with the rules-would have thought excesive spooning was more of a worry in an ice-cream parlour than rowdyness, which, in turn, would be exceedingly daft on the running-board of an automobile.

Mind you, excessive spooning of an ice-cream sundae whilst standing on a running-board would be even more stupid, but as that was the Jazz Age, I bet it happened!

Thanks-a good laugh in many places.



Steve

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 27 2010, 12:07 PM 

Naughty boys and girls of Nottingham. I hope this may be of interest to some of this estimable Forum. Maybe you know some of these people? Maybe it has appeared here before. Orangevike has some great photos IMO.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/89541428@N00/160786508/sizes/o/

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 28 2010, 5:34 AM 

Corpun showed a female teacher give a real swat on a young man's birthday. The teacher in the first video is crossing a professional line IMO. Teachers are not uncles and aunts and quite frankly she could join the ranks of teachers severely sanctioned by participating in jocular CP. However irrelevant this may seem it should suffice to say none other than Colin Farrell found the American birthday spanking custom in his site CORPUN worth mentioning. So lighten up. No good teacher would want part of such unprofessional behavior. As parents we would be very upset to have minors posed in a suggestive manner open for fetish exploitation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRdZbp1WZEA

www.corpun.com/vidsc8.htm



 
 

Another_Lurker

Those Nottingham Evening Post Letters!

July 28 2010, 6:09 AM 

Well well, a very interesting link in your post above on July 27 2010, at 12:07 PM American Way! Those letters are a very small selection from the series in the Nottingham Evening Post that I referred to in the final paragraph of my post here.

I suspect that, like the much later notorious Sunday Telegraph series of letters on the caning of young ladies in the navy, immortalised here in the thread Caned Wrens, most of the Nottingham Evening Post letters were to say the least a little dubious.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 28 2010, 2:38 PM 

This site has been in existence since 2003. Like some sites that advocate moderate, safe and judicious school corporal punishment it applies it to the home. At first glance it has attracted "no hits" from reviewers except from Australia that points to its obvious salacious content in spite of the site's protestations to the contrary. It seems to me its a veiled attempt to promote fetishism without censure. It is a tiny step up IMO from WIKI facts but far more amusing and salacious and maybe to some more interesting. wink.gif Love the logo!!! happy.gif

PAINFUL LESSON IN SPROG FLOGGING

http://www.chastisewithlove.com/

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 12 2010, 12:27 AM 

School CP adult cartoon humor.

Cane

Paddle

 
 
American Way

1906 SCP Humor

August 13 2010, 2:12 PM 

Mean Techer

THIS TEACHER USED HER RULER FREELY
WINSTED, Conn. Sept. 28 Complaint has been lodged with the school authorities of the place against a new teacher, Miss Eliza Reed, of Badford, O., who, it is said, makes pupils who put their lead pencils in their mouths stand on tip toes beside the blackboard and hold their hands up to a certain mark. If their fingers fall below the mark she cracks them with a ruler, it is asserted, and has already broken a dozen rulers. Several angry parents have taken their children from the school, whch opened last Tuesday.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 13 2010, 9:38 PM 

Muncie IN bottom slapper. News story is the first video link. The university police department has had since April to solve this case. Products and music videos. The kids have a lot of free time and the faculty and police do too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cegrCV-1PDw

Products

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoCToKn3qrU

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 13 2010, 11:39 PM 

Corporal Punishment Lighter Side - 200 Posts!

My esteemed and very prolific fellow contributor American Way has a unique double today, with no less than two of his threads reaching 200 posts. Indeed, one of them would actually be reaching the 700 post mark had it not had to be subdivided earlier because of loading problems!

American Way is to be congratulated on the diligent research and tireless posting efforts which make such a notable achievement possible, and it is to be hoped that this excellent thread will in time go on to emulate its sister thread and reach the dizzy heights of 500+ posts.

To ensure that happy outcome, it only remains for me to say to all the habitués of this estimable Forum, and most especially to American Way:

Keep Posting!

 
 
prof.n

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 14 2010, 3:20 PM 


Engraving ;

Child birching machine ( steam powered) for the 'celeriferous' correction of boys and girls. France 19th century

Reproduced from 'Surveilleur e punir' Michael Foucault.

Sometimes even sociologists can have a sense of humor!

[linked image]

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 14 2010, 6:33 PM 

Follow up Muncie Indiana bottom slapper. Paddles are forbidden to be used by students but note Ball State on it and how old it is. Consent is what it is all about and a lot more permissible when it's once a year. Since the drinking age is 21 and you don't become 21 until your a senior it makes one wonder? Sometimes the moment you become legal you have your firts drink. Yeah right. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif College kids can slap a video together to bring humor into whatever happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M97HxVJxMQ4

http://www.myspace.com/538546807/photos/5310370#a=0&i=5310394

http://www.myspace.com/538546807/photos/5310370#a=0&i=5310370

http://www.myspace.com/538546807/photos/5310370#a=0&i=5310381

 
 

Doctor Dominum

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 15 2010, 2:53 AM 

An interesting post, Prof. N.

It brings to mind a couple of classic images from a famous Australian children's book.

In the late 19th century and early 20th century, Melbourne had a very famous, very large bookshop called 'Coles Book Arcade'. It was a major Melbourne institution - before my time, but it's well known here. It's owner, E.W. Cole, also published some books of his own, and some of the most famous of these were the Cole's Funny Picture Books. Very popular here, even today. They were books for children which just consisted of funny pictures and funny stories and funny poems. They were nonsense, but they were clever nonsense, and greatly loved.

In one of the books, Cole published three images, and some accompanying verse that are very relevant here. Jenny - you may want to stop reading now happy.gif

He published images of a patented whipping machine for boys, and a scolding machine for girls. Gender differentiated punishment in action!

It's all out of copyright, so I shall share the relevant bits here.




Declaration of a Distracted Schoolmaster.


A year ago I took charge of a school of 1000 boys. They were a very bad lot indeed, and I could do nothing with them. Being of a mild disposition, I attempted to reason with them; but I might as well have reasoned with the pigs. I then thought of punishing them, but that was a big task, and, besides, what mode of punishment should I adopt? In my utmost perplexity I wrote to Professor Wilderspin a great authority on the management of boys and he wrote as follows:

"Nearly all boys can be managed by an intelligent schoolmaster without punishment, but in a few cases it seems impossible to do without it. In every large school in England, Ireland, and Scotland some corporal punishment is used, and some must continue to be used as long as very vicious children continue to exist, or as long as parents spoil their children by over indulgence or by wilful criminal neglect before they send them to school. Yours truly,
Professor Wilderspin."

I then wrote to twenty-seven of the principal headmasters in the world, and the following are the replies:

From the High School of Eton wrote head-master, Mr. Squeers:
"If they don't behave as they should do, why, soundly box their ears."
From the Grammar School of Harrow wrote head-master, Mr. Phfool:
"If they do not behave themselves, expel them from the school."
From the Training School of Rugby wrote head-master, Mr Wist:
"Just take a handful of their hair, and give a sharp, short twist."
From the College School of Oxford wrote Professor Rarey Hook:
"Instead of nearly killing, overawe them with a look."
From the Bible School of Cambridge wrote Professor William Brying:
"Well whip them with a birchen rod, and never mind their crying."
From the Blue Coat School of London wrote Professor Rupert Gower:
"At arm's length make them hold a book the space of half-an-hour."
From the Naval School of Liverpool wrote head-master Mr. Jointer:
"Just rap them on the knuckles with a common teacher's pointer."
From the People's School of Manchester wrote head-master Mr. Flowers:
"Make them kneel down as still as death for just about two hours."
From the Infant School of Birmingham wrote Professor Dory Heller:
"Just put on them a fool's cap, marked 'dunce,' 'thief,' or 'story-teller'."
From the Charity school of Sheffield wrote head-master, Mr. Clay:
"If the boys are disobedient, do not let them out to play."
From the Gentleman's School at Brighton wrote Professor Robert Flask:
"If the boys will act unruly, why, just make them do a task."
From the National School of Bristol wrote Professor Mark Groom:
"If the boys are extra naughty, shut them in a dark room."
From the District School of Edinburgh wrote head-master, Mr. Glass:
"The naughty boys should all be sent to the bottom of the class."
From the Mixed School of Glasgow wrote Professor Duncan Law:
"To keep a proper kind of school, just use the three-tailed taw."
From the Latin School of Dublin wrote Professor Patrick Clayrence:
"If the boys are very bad boys, write a letter to their parents."
From the Mission School, Calcutta, wrote the Rev. Mr. Mac Look:
"Try them by a boy jury, write the verdict in a black-book."
From the Lyceum of New York wrote Professor Henry Bothing:
"Take your delinquent boys one hour and make them sit on nothing."
From the Public School, Chicago, wrote head-master, Mr. Norrids:
"If they will not behave themselves, why, just you slap their foreheads."
From, the Academy of San Francisco wrote head-master, Mr. Power:
"Make them stoop and hold their fingers on the floor for just an hour."
From the Mormon School of Utah wrote Professor Orson Pratt:
"First strip and make them fast, and then just use the little cat."
From the King's College, Lisbon, wrote Professor Don Cassiers:
"If you want to make them good boys, pull, pinch, and twist their ears."
From the Cadet's School of Paris wrote Professor Monsieur Sour:
"Just make them hold their hands above their heads for one full hour."
From the Royal School of Amsterdam wrote Professor Vander Tooler:
"If they will not behave themselves, just trounce them with a ruler."
From the Model School of Pekin wrote Professor Cha Han Coo:
"Just put their hands into the stocks and beat with a bamboo."
From the Normal School of Moscow wrote Professor Ivan Troute:
"To make your boys the best of boys, why, just use the knout."
From the Muslim School of Cairo wrote the Mufti, Pasha Saido:
"Upon the bare soles of their feet give them the bastinado."
From the Common School of Berlin wrote Professor Von de Rind:
"There's nothing like the old, old way that ever could I find;
Just lay them right across your knee and cane them well behind.
I've only just been speaking mit mine goot frien', Doctor Whistim,
And he says that it does no harm, but is felt throughout the system."
At last, as I was thinking deep how puzzling all this looks,
I received a tempting offer from a certain Mr. Snooks.
His "great machine to whip with speed" I brought with flusteration,
But to see just how it did succeed you view the illustration.


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And then look at "Professor Cole's Gentle Persuader."

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Testimonial from a Schoolmaster

(To Mr. Cole, Book Arcade, Melbourne)


SIRYour Patent Flogger is a "keen"
Success as a labor-saving machine;
'Twill yet be held in great esteem,
Already 'tis the Poet's theme;
It's the greatest patent that's ever been
In or out of a schoolroom seen;
And as you have got it to go by steam,
School-life will now be all serene.


I have not had a bad boy remaining now, but before I used your machine they used to be a frightful lot of young scamps. For instance, in my school of 1000, the first day the machine was introduced, 741 were punished for various misdeeds, and 103 for single offences, were flogged as follows:

 
 

Doctor Dominum

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 15 2010, 2:53 AM 


John Hawking, for talking
William Winning, for grinning
George Highing, for crying
Edward Daring, for swearing
Henry Wheeling, for stealing
Peter Bitting, for spitting
Robert Hocking, for smoking
Frederick Mention, for inattention
Joseph Footing, for pea-shooting
Luke Jones, for throwing stones
Matthew Sauter, for squirting water
Nicholas Storms, for upsetting forms
Reuben Wrens, for spoiling pens
Samuel Jinks, for spilling ink
Simon McLeod, for laughing aloud
Timothy Stacies, for making faces
Victor Bloomers, for taking lunars
Vincent James, for calling names
Caleb Hales, for telling tales
Daniel Padley, for writing badly
David Jessons, for cribbing lessons
Edmond Gate, for coming late
Ezra Lopen, for leaving the door open
Edwin Druent, for playing the truant
Charles Case, for leaving his place
Ernest Jewell, for eating during school
Coo Ah Hi, for using a shanghai
Francis Berindo, for breaking a window
Harold Tate, for breaking his slate
Isaac Joys, for making noise
Jacob Crook, for tearing his book
Christopher Moyes, for teasing other boys
Elisha Sewell, for bolting from school
Conrad Draper, for throwing chewed paper
Ebenezer Good, for telling a falsehood
Felix Snooks, for coming without books
Cyril Froude, for speaking too loud
Elijah Rowe, for speaking too low
Gregory Meek, for refusing to speak
Hannibal Hartz, for throwing paper darts
Horace Poole, for whistling in school
Hubert Shore, for slamming the door
Jesse Blane, for hiding the cane
Jonah Platts, for hiding boys' hats
Aaron Esk, for cutting the desk
Abner Rule, for sleeping in school
Adam Street, for changing his seat
Albert Mayne, for splitting the teacher's cane
Alexander Tressons, for reading during other lessons
Alfred Hoole, for eating lollies in school
Ambrose Hooke, for blotting his copy-book
Amos Blair, for not combing his hair
Andrew Grace, for not washing his face
Anthony Sands, for not washing his hands
Arnold Cootz, for coming in with dirty boots
Benjamin Guess, for coming with untidy dress
Clarence Hyneman, for annoying a stray Chinaman
Michael McToole, for bringing stones to school
Cuthbert Flindow, for climbing through the window
Edgar Gasking, for going without asking
Eric Grout, for kicking boys' hats about
Enoch McKay, for pinching the next boy
Gabriel Cook, for tearing a boy's book
Hyram Pope, for pulling the bell rope
Humphrey Proof, for getting on the roof
Jonah Earls, for chasing school-girls
Jonathan Spence, for climbing over the fence
Phillip Cannister, for sliding down the bannister
Lambert Hesk, for sliding on a desk
Lawrence Storm, for standing on a form
Lazarus Beet, for stamping with his feet
Leopold Bate, for swinging on the gate
Lewis Lesks, for kicking legs of desks
Mark Vine, for overstepping the toe-line
Nathan Corder, for not marching in order
Norman Hall, for scribbling on the wall
James Mace, for hitting a boy in the face
Thomas Sayers, for pushing boys down the stairs
Oswald Hook, for losing a school-book
Ralph Chesson, for not knowing his lesson
Sampson Skinner, for eating another boy's dinner
Solomon Brook, for scribbling in his book
Stephen Platt, for chasing the master's cat
Neal M'Kimney, dropping a brick down the chimney
Theodore Le Soof, for throwing stones on the roof
Valentine Rapp, for turning on the water-tap
Walter Hope, for climbing up the bell-rope
Joshua Gail, for catching flies on the wall
Raymond Esk, for sticking pins in the desk
Julian State, for drawing pictures on his slate
Gerald Astor, for being impudent to the master
Augustus Roff, for not taking his hat off
Rupert Keats, for fixing pens in boys' seats
Maurice Took, for having a dirty copybook
Esau Klaster, for drawing caricatures of the master
Paul Bhool, for letting a bird loose in school
Jabez Breeding, for not knowing the place at reading
Levi Stout, for stopping too long when let out
Guy M'Gill, sharpening a knife on the window-sill
Duncan Heather, pinning two boys' coat-tails together
Ezekiel Black, pinning paper on another boy's back
Patrick O'Toole, for bursting a paper-bag in school
Eli Teet, for putting cobbler's wax on master's seat


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Cole's Electro-micro Scolding Machine is a combination of three instruments, the Phonograph, the Microphone, and the Wonderphone.

The Phonograph is an instrument that will preserve words for any length of time. Any person can speak, sing, whistle, or scold into a Phonograph, and months or years afterwards by simply turning a handle the same sounds can be reproduced a dozen, a hundred, or a thousand times in the exact voice of the person who spoke them in; so that if a man or a woman, who is a great scold, speak some good, loud, severe scolding into a Phonograph, the mildest teacher can then scold her pupils, or the kindest mother her children, just by turning the handle.

The Microphone is an instrument that magnifies sound in the same way as a microscope magnifies objects; a very powerful microphone magnifies the sound of a fly walking into a loud tramping footstep, the tick of a watch into a deafening clatter, and a whisper into a loud shout. Take a Microphone, then properly affix it to the Phonograph described above, and you have a good Scolding Machine; turn the handle, and as the Phonograph gives out the scoldings, the microphone part magnifies them so loudly that they are heard for a considerable distance.

The Wonderphone (Cole's own secret) is another remarkable instrument; it will cause sound to travel very distinctly, but frightfully and equally loud, for forty miles in all directions; by attaching this powerful instrument to the combination of the other two, Cole's Electro-micro Scolding Machine is formedand which is the first Scolding Machine ever invented. If the machine is already charged by having had some scolding spoken, or even whispered into it, give the handle a turn, and forty miles to the east, forty miles to the west, forty to the north, forty to the south, forty up in the sky, and down in the mines forty miles deep, in fact forty miles in every direction, everybody can clearly hear every word being said to the girl being scolded. Suppose for instance, Hannah Maria Smith had done something wrong in school, the schoolmistress could give the handle of the machine a turn, and it would scold her so loudly that her mother, and father, and brothers, and sisters, and uncles, and aunts, and friends, and those she didn't like would all hear her scolded. The machine can be charged on the instant by anyone scolding into it. In fact the whole value of Cole's Scolding Machine lies in its power to repeat out exceedingly loud whatever is spoken into it.

If the schoolmistress chooses she can put the scolding into verse, so that all who hear it in the forty miles around, can more easily remember it. The machine that I have before me now, was charged this morning for an aristocratic school and speaks as follows: Silence!! Attention!!!

 
 

Doctor Dominum

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 15 2010, 2:54 AM 


Ada Alice Arabella Angelina Andal,
Why do you talk for ever, such a tittle-tattling scandal?
Betsy Bertha Bridget Belinda Bowing,
Will you be quiet and go on with your sewing?
Cora Caroline Christina Clarinda Clare,
Now do look in the glass at your untidy hair.
Dorah Dinah Dorothy Dorinda Dresson,
You really must get on with your short drawing lesson.
Edith Ellen Evelina Elizabeth Eadle,
This makes this day your nineteenth broken needle.
Fanny Florence Frederica Florinda Flynn,
How cruel of you to prick Jane with a pin.
Grace Gertrude Genevieve Georgina Grimble,
You careless girl to lose your silver thimble.
Hilda Hanna Harriet Henrietta Hawker,
You really are a most inveterate talker.
Ida Izod Irene Isabella Inching,
You spitefulstop that scratching and pinching.
Jane Julia Josephine Jemima Jesson,
Sit down at once and learn your music lesson.
Kate Kester Katrina Kathleen Kent,
You're vulgar, saucy, rude and insolent.
Lizzie Letitia Lucretia Lorinda Loeries,
You're the champion of the world for telling stories.
Maud Mary Martha Matilda Moyes,
Sends letters to, and flirts with, naughty boys.
Nancy Nelly Ninette Naomi Nations,
Shame of you to talk 'gainst other girls' relations.
Olive Osberta Orphelia Octavia O'Dyke,
Your conduct is outrageous and unladylike.
Polly Patience Prudence Paulina Pitt,
You really are our champion tell-tale-tit.
Quilla Quintina Quinburga Quendrida Quirk,
How very, very, dirty you have made your fancy-work.
Rose Ruth Rachel Rebecca Ritting,
Now stop that crying and get on with your knitting.
Sarah Sophia Selina Susannah Stacies,
Don't spoil your face by making those grimaces.
Tilda Theresa Tabitha Theodora Tapping,
You'd gain the prize if one was given for slapping.
Una Ursula Urica Urania Urls,
You'd gain the prize for teasing little girls.
Venus Violet Victoria Veronica Vo-shi,
Just learn your task and put away that crochet.
Wilmett Walberg Winefride Wilhelmina Wriggling,
Now once for all do stop that stupid giggling.
Xenodice Xanthippe Xanthisa Xenophona X-cess,
You think and talk of nothing else but dress! dress!
Yana Yulga Yapeena Yestina Young,
Will you behave yourself and just draw in your tongue.
And lastly and worst of all, you,
Zoe Zora Zillah Zenobia Zeen,
How dare you! how dare you!! yes, how dare you!!!
Sneer at the boy's new whipping Machine.


Notice To The Public


If a schoolmistress chooses to live a hundred or a thousand miles away from her school, she can use the Scolding Machine by means of a Telephone attached thereto.

One great advantage of the Electro-micro Scolding Machine is, that after it has been in use a short time the girls will all have been shamed into good behaviour; but the Machine will not become useless, as it can, without a farthing outlay, be turned into a Praising Machine, for it can be made to praise in a gentle voice as well as scold in a harsh one. In fact, as said above it will repeat in exact tones, anything that is recited, preached, sung, whistled, whispered, shouted, scolded or praised into itand any of which will be heard for forty miles around.

Cole can supply Scolding Machines from £5 to £50. A very good one (The Excelsior), price £10, can be charged in one minute, and set going like a musical box, and will sing, whistle, recite, preach, or scold away for a full hour without stopping. Cole would particularly recommend this one to the ladies, it would make a fine ornament for their own table.

Final Notice Extraordinary If the champion male scold of the world, and the champion female scold of the world, will call on Professor Cole, at the Book Arcade, Melbourne, he will give them both good wages, and find them constant employment at charging Scolding Machines. If any wife has got the champion male scold for a husband, she will please to let me know. If any husband has got the champion female scold for a wife, he will please to let me know £10 bonus for information in each case.

- E.W. Cole


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 15 2010, 12:28 PM 

Jenny Are there any conclusions to be drawn from the gender differential between scolding and whipping in a scholastic setting that would offend your keen sense of injustice in these matters be offended if it were? happy.gif Perhaps in another context that may appear too erotically tempting for men to apply on woman unless of course it is circa 1680 as in scholars corner or proclivities that some may have among my distinguished posters and readers of this estimable Forum. wink.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 15 2010, 12:52 PM 

National Lampoon Slide Rule, Dunce Cap, Paddle and Pencil in the Mouth to Silence the Chatty

Were the Pencil and the Dunce Cap common over there. They use to use to be a fountain pen and called a foolscap in early USA classroom days. Where did those traditions come from? Have they been used in the UK. Thankfuly they are a thing of the past.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 15 2010, 10:28 PM 

A most excellent and amusing series of posts, thank you Doctor Dominum. I am mindful of the many other calls on your time but I hope that you will soon be able to return to posting here much more often.

 
 
Jenny

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 16 2010, 9:37 PM 

Hi Doctor Dominum

In one of the books, Cole published three images, and some accompanying verse that are very relevant here. Jenny - you may want to stop reading now happy.gif

Sometimes, Doc, you can be really considerate. happy.gif  Whether this is one of those times is open to debate.[very big grin].




 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 19 2010, 4:09 AM 

Girls school corporal punishment comical drawing from days of yore. Is this a series? Maybe it's a colorization of an original plain sketch?

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 22 2010, 11:27 PM 

Because the male paddling a female has become loaded with fantasy some have felt that by eliminating corporal punishment in secondary school it would take the wind out of the sail of those who exploit the issue to ban corporal punishment. If the elementary kids are too small and the secondary school kids are too big then the case for the preservation of status quo in the south becomes an uphill battle. Any true professional would separate school discipline from what is depicted in cartoons. The temptation may be there and it should be noted that from many accounts men feel uncomfortable administering corporal punishment and often recuse themselves.

The congressional hearing on a paddling that occurred more than 20 years ago that captured national attention led to witnesses of the same gender. Female coaches are made the heavies with girls because they are now the ones called on to administer punishment where male administrators were more likely to do so. I wonder how many girls have opted in because they know they will be paddled by a woman and not a man? It befuddles me why a male would paddle 17 senior girls with national attention in Oxford AL but I'm not from the bible belt. It gave fodder for the anti-CP zealots as do these drawings. It makes even more sense to not have a male paddle a girl just to nip in the bud those who turn discipline into fantasy. It is interesting to note the exaggerated brace position and the holes in the paddle written about here awhile back.

The drawings have an adult theme but don't involve nudity. There is certainly a great deal of artistic license extended beyond reality.

Click

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 1 2010, 1:11 AM 

I found this hilarious. A video about fraternity and a Life Magazine article on sorority. Was there anything like hazing in the UK seventy years ago?

Video

Article


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 1 2010, 1:11 AM 

I found this hilarious. A video about fraternity and a Life Magazine article on sorority. Was there anything like hazing in the UK seventy years ago?

Video

Article


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 6 2010, 2:06 PM 

Off topic but nonetheless fun cartoon. Subtle or not so subtle message about "Christian values" being mocked is found if you look for the cross. Maybe unintended? Maybe not? Eye of the beholder.

Spanking Fetish


 
 

option 2

September 7 2010, 6:28 PM 

I recently met a Professional lady for an enjoyable session. As I often do, I asked her how she got into the scene, what awakened her interest. She said it started at the boarding school she attended in the late 60s/early 70s. (She was not in her first flush of youth but still good!).

Apparently, corporal punishment was still used, not that regularly, but certainly when required. It was always administered by the Headmistress, a kindly, elderly spinster, widely liked by the girls. However, her reputation as a spanker went before her. The stories of her fearful whackings were legendary.

Usually, punishment was doled out just before lights out. The culprit was summoned to the Head's study, having first donned her night attire. plus dressing gown. After the customary lecture, she was told to remove the latter and bend over the arm of her sofa. Then anything from four to twelve quite fearful wallops would descend on the pyjamaed/nightdressed bottom with eithe a slipper or cane, depending on the offence. For an elderly lady she had a very strong arm, and the pain could be considerable.

Often, a girl would be trembling and in tears on arrival. Particularly, but not always, with the younger girls, she sometmes offered them "option 2". This meant that instead of the slipper or cane, the poor girl could opt for an unofficial spanking over the Head's knee. It was explained that it would not be so hard, but of unlimited number. The original punishment would be recorded in the punishment book. A lot did accept this, and my lady did once. It seem she was turned over, nightie pulled up, to receive around 40-50 moderately hard spanks on the bare. It certainly was not so painful, but definitely more embarrassing.

My friend was quite matter-of-fact about it and I got the impression that it was not only true, but fairly widespread in boarding schools. As she said the atmosphere at the school was great, and the learning excellent.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 8 2010, 10:59 PM 

Former Teacher Gets Spanked at Class Reunion. Lyon France. Why was the instrument of correction a paddle in France? Was it a case of a paddle just being an implement with the school colors on it?

Former Teacher Gets Spanked at Class Reunion


 
 

Another_Lurker

Paddling in France

September 9 2010, 12:27 AM 

Hi American way. If you give any credence to the French teacher story or any other story in that publication I can recommend one or two UK publications which will be very much to your taste. And for Steve's benefit I don't mean the Daily Telegraph! happy.gif

For the record though the article does refer to the teacher being well known for the whippings he gave to former pupils. As far as I'm aware when school cp was used in France it was often administered with a martinet, which is a fairly whip like implement. However I wouldn't have thought one likely to be used in French schools in the last 15 years (the time frame referred to) despite the French penchant for making laws and then ignoring them.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 26 2010, 3:01 AM 

From the second link: In this brave new world of 1950 we are glad to see that our wives and daughters have more going for them than ever before. But sometimes do you not think that things may have gone just a little too far?
Last week a good friend of mine was confronted with a 21-year-old daughter who was decidedly too big for her boots. She went out with some friends without a word to anyone and came home, get this, three days later without a care in the world. Is this lack of consideration what we have to put up with from this modern generation? I told this tale to my wife and she said that in her day she would have been soundly spanked for such behaviour.
Would that have been so bad? My own sister was spanked at 23 for going on a date with a travelling salesman. To this day she will tell you she deserved it. She expects to be sitting down any time soon now.
But seriously, the next time your precious little career girl in the making smarts off consider how grandma would have handled it.



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Here are two examples that hearken back to some 60 years ago. The boys probably moved out of the house while the girl stayed at home until the right man came along. Note the image of a Mom keeping the daughter in tow without sexual overtones with that of the father from the above link. The second link depicts an image like the ads shown in Corpun during the fifties. For lack of a better word the "juvenilization" of girls as needing a strong parental hand through a prologed and protected adolescence applied more to the girls than the boys. Girls probably stayed at home longer. and were not allowed to grow up. Maybe they did but much to the consternation of their parents. Usual caveat: Second picture is a modest photo from an adult site.


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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 23 2010, 3:55 AM 

Humorous look of school corporal punishment from the days of yore. Enjoy.

CLICK

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 28 2010, 3:08 AM 

British Corporal Punishment Comedy.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 2 2010, 6:11 AM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 6 2010, 5:20 PM 

Americans are aware of birthday spankings but obvious are unaware of the perils of the cane. America is divided between a liberal and conservative television network. Fox is conservative and MSNBC is liberals. Millions here watched this interview with the outlandish Rad Girls. Munchie was sprayed with bear mace on a birthday, July 16th and on this birthday she gets a taste of the cane. I guess this is why the Brits limit it usually to six of the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAIrPooe_Kw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4nR2nvO3hM


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 6 2010, 7:01 PM 

Ramona Cash was the girl who was caned. She received her 2001 bachelor's degree from the prestigious Oberlin college in Ohio and a master's degree in education at University of California in Santa Cruz. in 2004. Like Renee, maybe not in any other way, she has taught in both elementary and middle school. Governor Ted Strickland, a TWP profile in cowardice only recently in his sneaky way was influential in banning corporal corporal punishment in a huge state of Ohio, was ousted Tuesday. If she taught in Ohio following college, she could theoretically but not likely, have paddled students. There were few paddlings in the state but the last state in awhile to prohibit corporal punishment.


 
 
American Way

Bullying

November 6 2010, 11:12 PM 

Again racial divide on spanking attitudes deeply entrenched in family life. It spills over into corporal punishment in school.

To spank or not to spank?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3p2i8FxksY


 
 
American Way

Shameless/Bold Hussies

November 7 2010, 2:43 AM 

Context of youtube video. The word booty while used by blacks and whites is used more often by blacks, therefore heightens the racial difference. Remini is expecting a smack and gets more than she bargained for. It was somewhat out of character for the show and surprised the principal hostess. It was OTT and with skirts too for them well into their forties.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/people/pink-says-parents-should-beat-their-children-20101104-17efc.html?from=smh_sb

http://www.examiner.com/the-talk-in-national/pink-says-beat-kids-and-sparks-heated-debate-on-the-talk




 
 
American Way

Disciplinarian Wanted.

November 11 2010, 12:21 PM 

Punch Magazine 1978. Priscilla Lovibond. 150 quid per year. It wouldn't take me a year. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 11 2010, 5:38 PM 

For those who don't want to scroll and find in the previous post I copy/paste for your convenience and bold face what I find most eyebrow raising. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif.

A DISCIPLINARIAN.WANTED, a LADY, who h a strict disciplinarian, who will RECEIVE into her house a YOUNG LADY, aged fifteen, backward in -her studies and somewhat refractory in temper. Most liberal terms are offered to a Lady who will superintend her studies in English and rudimentary French, and who will enforce her commands by corporal punishment. Address, stating terms, and kind of punishment used, to, &c. Daily Newt, Jan. 19.
The above advertisement, to judge by the number of letters Mr. Punch has received, enclosing it with comments, hag excited no common attention. It is Bo refreshing, in this soft-hearted age, to find a Spartan spirit nerved to sterner views of discipline and duty. We understand that, the advertiser has had several answers, but only one " up to sample." We subjoin it:
Madam,

I Shall have much pleasure in undertaking the congenial task of subduing the refractory nature of the young Lady for whom you desire to secure a wholesome course of discipline. I am assured of my complete ability to break her rebellious temper, ana to bring her whole nature into a Christian state'of subjection., I am aware there is a remote possibility of your young step-daughter (as I presume she is) succumbing physically under my system, if she be of delicate organisation, or mentally, if ner brain be weak; or both, if bodv and mind alike be of other than hardy fibre. "Spare the rod, and spoil the child." I take these inspired words for my rule of action. My whole system of corporal punishment is singularly perfect, so as to avoid the vexatious interference of the law, or the meddling ofnciouBness of the puling philanthropy which dreams of educating a "rebellious nature" by moral suasion, patient love, and cheerful influences. Our ancestors were wiser. Only by stripes, hunger, thirst, cold, and terror, can weak mental powers be strengthened, ana recalcitrant wills Bubdued.

I have another young orphan girl under my care at present, who is now little better than an idiot, through the mistaken course taken in her early youth by fond and foolish parents. I have, however, succeeded, after much trouble, in subduing her self-willed disposition, repressing her unseemly gaiety, and checking her silly coaxing ways. On the speoial adaptation of punishments to young persons under my system I will not enter into detail, merely stating
generally that stocks, backboard, wholesome discipline with a cane or leathern thong, abstinence from food, long and severe lessons, commencing at five, and continued through the day under close and continual surveillance', of younger pupils by older, of both by : assistants, and of all by the Principal, strict prohibition of frivolous amusements, and the cold water douche for abnormal refractoriness, are all employed at my estab- j lishment. Religious instruction in the most orthodox ! tenets of Calvinism is systematically combined with these strictly educational appliances,

If your young relative is not wonderfully improved in temper, heart, intellect, and acquirements, in two or three years, hers must, I fear, be regarded as a peculiarly hopeless case. My terms are £150 a year. Highest references as to my respectability, genteel connections, consistent piety, and essential fitness for the position of instructress, guide, and friend ef youth. Feeling sure of a favourable response,
I am, Madam, Yours Obediently,

Priscllla Lovibon

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 11 2010, 9:29 PM 

Least anyone should think that we in the UK have very recently had some strange customs as regards the education of young ladies I would point out that American Way's quoted 'letter' from Priscllla Lovibon above is from a 'Punch' magazine of 1878, not 1978 as he states in his November 11 2010, 12:21 PM post above! happy.gif In 1878 it is just barely possible that the letter might be authentic, but in view of the declared objective of Punch magazine from the outset, it is far more likely that it is a hoax set up for the magazine.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 5 2010, 1:16 AM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 5 2010, 10:13 PM 

Cero en conducta. It's a Mexico siuation comedy. The ferule corresonds to wht I called pool sticks of different gradations in the Nun's office.

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Fun especially toward the end. It must have been applied within the recent past to play a role in a situation comedy with youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZJNlulnfoU

Not so much fun.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 6 2010, 3:38 AM 

Girls play a joke at 10:00. Is the shape of the object in the video correspond to a ferule?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZU8azx-5XE

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 11 2010, 8:15 PM 

It's not surprising that in a country where students are given choices between suspension or paddling someone would come up with a video dare game the American Way. I dare say this most have been dreamt up by a fetishists.

Call me a coward but considering the severity I would take a grounding. happy.gif

http://www.videodaregame.com/calculator/grounded.php


 
 
prof.n

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 11 2010, 9:07 PM 

Hi American Way



Interesting game . I did hear when I was last in Texas that something similar ecisted on some odd religious 'nut job' site , but on that one I understand you rolled an electronic dice!(Thought they didn't believe in gambling)!!

Seriously it looks like the penalties equate to about what was common across the south in the 70's - maximum penalty 12 very hard swats with a wooden paddle.

I tend to agree with you .It is probably fetish related

HOWEVER, a word to the wise .You may not have realized but it appears to be quite a dangerous program, ( if you use the calculator it tries to link you to source directly when the source is online and appears according to 'trend security' tries to launch hostile cookies into your system ). Trend is by far the most sensitive system I use , so it may be oversensitive, but forewarned is forearmed.

I guess VERY dangerous for kids, and equally for everybody unless you use a program to protect your real electronic identity.

Jenny or Another Lurker will probably know/understand more ,all I know is I dont use untrusted sites without such protection. Im mo expert on this .


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Another_Lurker

A dire warning from Another_Lurker!

December 11 2010, 10:25 PM 

Extreme Caution!!

Prof.n's warning above is a timely one and I must caution everyone not to attempt to use American Way's link to the Ungrounding Calculator at videodaregame.com unless they have first watched the instructional video which is to be found here.

You have been warned!!

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 11 2010, 11:33 PM 

For those who remember the Everman TX CBS sample paddling interview they may recall how the kids preferred pops rather than staying after school. Should punishment be the lesser of two unpleasant consequence c*hosen from student point of view? A teacher may know that a student has a preference for the cane or the paddle to impositions so should the teacher cater to the preference of an offender or vive-versa for that matter?

This is a safe site that gives you an understanding what the video dare game is all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTtP7DI2MDU


 
 

Another_Lurker

Video Dare Game Site

December 12 2010, 2:52 AM 

Another Caution!!

More on American Way's link to the Ungrounding Calculator at videodaregame.com. Information I have received from a reliable source suggests that you would be wise not to use it. I did not use the calculator. Apparently if you do you may find unexpected and undesirable things happening such as attempts to connect you to a chat facility and to switch on your web cam. This seems to accord with the problems related by Prof.n above.

At best the site may be a dangerous joke. At worst it may be some sort of paedophile device. The extreme youth of the girls in some of the various videos associated with the site on the YouTube page I linked, one of which American way has for some reason repeated above, may indicate something about the purpose of the site.

If you have used the site I suggest clearing your browser cache and deleting all cookies and running a malware check.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 16 2010, 11:39 AM 

A Japanese woman teacher in love with a boy student inflicts corporal punishment on him while the girls catch it on camera. Some guys would fantasize this but never a nun but never say never. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/user/mszwelling#p/u/7/vuwZAXQR9jA


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 16 2010, 12:14 PM 

Correction: Korea where school corporal punishment is quite frequent. They didn't appear to be Japanese and this confirms it. This was a comment.

They love each other. But love of between teacher and student was criticized morally. She is in a critical condition to be fired. T: Go back to the classroom. S: No. I can't. I hope to be with you. I am afraid of you. T: I should punish you when you don't listen. S: You can do as you please. .. T: Why do you make me bad teacher? Why do you make me wrong teacher?






 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 16 2010, 12:34 PM 

Music Video follow up of Korean video near the end and gives context. I thought he was going to her at the end instead of kissing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP7oKjYHtbU


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 18 2011, 11:57 PM 

Could this be our Deputy Headmaster Emeritus. It would make for a better avatar than a silly elephant. wink.gifCLICK CLICK


 
 

Doctor Dominum

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 19 2011, 12:06 AM 

First of all, my avatar is a koala, not an elephant. While both are grey and have big ears, their noses are quite a bit different!

Secondly, back when I was trying to choose an avatar and I asked for people's advice, one of the two images you have linked to was among the choices. happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Soft But Stern Punishment

January 19 2011, 6:04 AM 


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 20 2011, 2:20 AM 

Look at the expressions on the kids faces. What do you read? Rarely in the first decade of the twentieth century does it seem that a student is asked to position themselves passively to be hit but are held down. These more than likely jocular photos give us an idea on how corporal punishment was administered. What if it weren't jocular? Does anyone think it might not be? I wouldn't put it underneath this thread if I thought otherwise.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 21 2011, 10:52 PM 

They wouldn't dare do this to Renee. sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif Never in the USA only in the UK. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 23 2011, 5:35 AM 

I wonder how many people believe the photo propaganda emanating from some groups? They don't do themselves any favors. The first is meant to be comical while the second was not meant to be.

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American Way

Moon over Alburquque

January 26 2011, 3:20 AM 

Be sure to watch the video on the left.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 1 2011, 2:04 AM 

This 2006 Korean comedy television show is much racier and raunchier than anything you will see here. I'll spare you the gross episode and share the trailer. 30 seconds into it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCtrhez85Bc

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 5 2011, 3:06 AM 

Maureen O'Hara thought spanking would take a few inches away but this is on a whole new plane. The miniskirts added pressure. happy.gif Corporal punishment in the school cafeteria. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

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American Way

Kiss Me Kate

February 11 2011, 5:17 PM 

Kiss Me Kate Beer.

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Alan Turing

Sonmeone's having a laugh ...

February 11 2011, 7:25 PM 

The Wikipedia article on Corporal Punishment starts:

This article is about punishment involving pain, not designed to cause injury. For other forms of physical punishment, see physical punishment. For Blackadder episode, see Corporal Punishment (Blackadder).


 
 
Jack

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 12 2011, 12:27 AM 

Dominum: "It's Murray Straus promoted research and I'm afraid that makes it suspect. His biases are so strong and obvious that he'd been doing his cause a favour by staying away from it.

(Yes, I'm biased as well, in the opposite direction - but that's one reason why I don't get actively involved in publishing research in this field)."

No, you only take up residence at various places on the internet and set yourself up as an "expert" in the area implying that your knowledge and experiences with CP makes you far more reliable and accurate in evaluating its effectiveness and civility than actual research.

Straus may have a bias, but I'll stick to research over opinion based on heavily biased observation every time. You can at least do a reasonable analysis of correlational research and the methodology used but how to you argue with an opinion when the holder knows that he's right no matter what any research says?

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 20 2011, 1:31 AM 

I have often wondered why does a seven year old have to be paddled and not simply taken over the knee and spanked? Jackie Freiburger (built like wrestler) died in 2004 at 77 and did just that. UK has a bright idea with a slipper; it brings a little bit of the home and less of the institution into the picture. A principal named Mr. Stickle was too much of a temptation not to put in this thread. Its better than Mr.Tickle. Wrestlers arent what they use to be.

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WE WERE SPANKED IN SCHOOL:

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WRESTLING:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c_8P6FuVhA

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 20 2011, 7:27 PM 

prof noted that African American Greek Societies are the ones that are being suspended by not abadoning a forbidden activity. The slavery roots was mention in the New York Times. The use of corporal punishment among collegians extends sports teams especially rivalries. In the third link was a photo taken from a mainstream paper highlighting a professional baseball team rival (Yankees/Red Sox) and photo shop into the University of Louisville to University University of Kentucky college basketball rivalry. The girls are not cheerleaders for they must be of age at the bar. College girls (except for second semester seniors underage) don't drink, right? The fourth link are photos from the losing cheerleaders some just 17. They're the older adolescents. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif It's a consolation to some of our male readers in February, the coldest month of the year, no doubt why the bathing suit issue of the sports illustrated was purloined from our Catholic school library before the Sister of No Mercy cruelly confiscated before we could even take a peak. The other issues were wholesome, although today would probably not be there in favor of solely academic journals.

UK stands for the University of Kentucky not the United Kingdom. They won their game so it should have been a UK paddle instead of a Louisville slugger. Their cheerleaders must have been a distraction for the boys. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif. should have a Louisville slugger . On a lighter note I went on a two hundred mile bike hike to see if Kentucky grass was blue (Google if you're unfamiliar); it isn't. I went from Erlanger KY where the Cincinnati airport is located to Louisville. There were so many beautiful small towns. I bought bourbon for my Dad of Blessed Memory, from a town, that ironically, had dry laws (like many born again ones) prohibiting drinking in public facilities. You know the old joke about a bottle in your back pocket and you fall off your bike and feel something wet and hope it's blood and not Makers Mark bourbon (American Way)

As a further aside but on a somber note, the Secret Service advised President Barack Obama to stay away from KY (racial concerns); the then Democratic primary candidate and his future appointee as Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton spent more days than hours during the campaign and romped. To deny there is prejudice is to be in denial.

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http://www.stophazing.org/laws/ky_law.htm

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 22 2011, 9:21 PM 

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 24 2011, 2:24 PM 

Alternatives to CP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHRUxxkKYQ0

Guilt is washed away by a painful ice bath

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 15 2011, 5:17 PM 

As shown in the pretty Malaysian girls' hands (not posted for a while but I will spare this estimable Forum) after their caning there is a lot to be said for sparing an often unappreciated part of a female anatomy. Not everyone is called to model gloves for some are chosen to display their charms. There is something wrong with a lady teacher having her hand swollen to the size of a canvas ham and there was a bit of ingenuity demonstrated in the link that follows. Thankfully, there was someone way back then who would spare both the hands of the one administering corporal punishment. It gives new meaning to it hurts me more.... I know the good prof n when it comes to the caning of the hands, as I did the ruler on the knuckles have legitimate safety concerns but but something can be said for strap preferred by some with the female target the hands and not the bottom due to sensitivity toward the bathing suit area.

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American Way

Our children have been angels ever since passing through the machine

March 15 2011, 8:16 PM 

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"THE MOTHER'S FRIEND."

SOME five or six years ago Mr. Gregory, of the Rochester Chronicle, invented what ho called " Gregory's Eureka Spanker," being an invention calculated to lessen the labor of fathers and mothers in enforcing family discipline. The principle was correct, but the machines were all failures, as they could not be constructed with power enough to answer the purpose designed. The children were lifted up, laid face down on a small platform, and the mother worked the spanking apparatus as one turns a coftee-mill. A series of fans were arranged to strike the child thirty times per minute, but owing to the lack of power the child was led to believe that some one was tickling him, and would laugh himself almost to death. Another bad feature of the machine was the fact that it took at least ten minutes to spank a child. Thus, in a family where there were seven or eight children, an hour and a half was consumed in getting around, and by the time the last child had been spanked the first had entirely forgotten that anything unusual had occurred that day.

I am happy to inform mothers that I have brought out a new machine, founded on more correct principles, scientifically constructed, and warranted to do three times as much as I claim for it. It is called "The Mother's Friend,"
and the fact that it fills a want long felt is shown by every mail. The first machine was put on trial only three months ago, and now I have orders from nearly every State in the Union, and employ two saw-mills and ninety-seven skilled mechanics in its manufacture. The following are selected at random from among several millions of testimonials:
"office Of The ' Commercial,' Cincinnati, O., June 20, '74.

M. QuadSirI was present last evening at a trial of your patent' Friend,' and it does me good to inform you that it proved itself a great success. Thirty-five children were spanked in twenty-eight minutes by one woman,
AND THEN ORDEH ONE.
without any effort, and each one was far better spanked than the stoutest mother could have done it with a bootjack. The Commercial will stand by you in this section.
Very truly,
M. HALSTEAD."

And the following is from New York:

"M. QuadDear SirMrs. Bryant and myself have had the pleasure of attending a spanking soiree, given for the purpose of testing your patent apparatus. It worked so successfully that we are going to adopt a child and purchase a Spanker. I have seen thousands of inventions, but I never saw anything which could afford a family the fun
.which the 'Friend' can.

WM. CULLEN BRYANT."

And the following is from Washington:
"M. QuadYour note of the 15th inst., asking me what I thought of your new invention, was duly received. In answer, let me say that I am delighted. It saves time, does its work well, runs easily, is substantially constructed, and if I had a family of children I'd go bare-footed all winter but what I'd have a Spanker. Can I secure the agency for the District of Columbia? What commission do you allow? I think I can sell five hundred in this city alone. Ever yours,

GIDEON WELLES."

And this is from the ex-editor of the Lapeer (Michigan) Democrat:
"M. QuadSirThe Spanker was received last evening and immediately put to work, and I must say that I am astonished and gratified at its manner of working. Our children have been angels ever since passing through the machine* Formerly, my wife had to use up an hour's Q
time and half a bunch of shingles every day to spank our darlings, and then they weren't half attended to. ^Now, by the aid of your Spanker, she can do the work in five minutes. Draw on me for $40.

Respectfully,

L. D. SALE."

Other testimonials can be seen at my office, where one of the Spankers is also on exhibition. The regular discount will be allowed editors and clergymen.

 
 
American Way

The Curious M. Quad

March 16 2011, 1:44 PM 

From the above posting FYI.

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It did say something of pertinence that hearken back to the paddle first use. The use of the shingle is a far cry from the propagandists of the ant-CP zealots relating paddling to slavery. The position of the child was over the knee similar to the slipper but there is a high probability as the child grew free standing bending over would allow swing from a distance.

http://ronevry.com/quad.html

 
 
American Way

Kinetic energy

March 16 2011, 5:08 PM 

Quite a rigamarole for historical corporal punishment regulations. Worse than the fear of hundreds of dollars suited lawyers.

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American Way

Charged to the Swishee

March 17 2011, 3:22 AM 

My time, and what I've done with it: An autobiography By Sir Francis Cowley Burnand

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Good heavens! ten or fifteen poundsfor what? Why should I have had to give my father's fifteen pounds to Dr Courtley? For flogging me? Well, he had only had that pleasure twice, and that would have been dearly bought, including the birch itselfto which, such was the tradition, any swished Holyshadian had a right after his swishingat fifteen pounds. The charge for a "swishing," including the birch to be given to the Swishee, was, I have always understood, five shillings. It was, I believe, regularly charged in the bill, but the apple-twigs were not bestowed on the boy after the punishment. They should have been made into the sem-semblance of a laurel wreath.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 19 2011, 3:04 PM 

prof n Going viral under TWP about Unlimited Justice? Viral? Maybe, if she didn't opt for a stunt. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif Nothing new here and back to 2004 with shock jock, Howard Stern (search name here) or Butt Bongo way back.

Another moment of impact victim for some guys who would go to the circus if it came to their town here or maybe I'm just projecting happy.gifwink.gifwink.gif

CLICK The reporter had the good sense not to become the butt if every joke and become another and find a stunt that will keep the number of hits down of viewers wink.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

Charity spanking booths are hyped as "spank for a cause" and do attract a crowd. It will but like a carnival and is a great way of selling designer jeans but he has totally discredited himself. Marc is more like Jeff Charles than Paula, should not be referred to as the brown bum (racial slur). I dont think it will change one legislators mind in TX with Iran angle. The woman representative pushing the bill has brought it to the floor of the House in Austin TX, their state capitol, to no avail, for almost a decade and is way over retirement age so she might not see it change in her lifetime barring a Supreme Court intervention.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 20 2011, 2:19 AM 

The journal of education, Volume 9 April 1, 1887

Various expedients are adopted by boys to mitigate the severity of their caning. I have seen a boy discovered with four or five of Philips' copybooks carefully placed on his back under his coat. It was found out by the curious and unfleshly sounds produced by the blows. Those of great experience will gently yield to the blow when given on the hand. This, I am told, has the same effect as properly catching a cricket ball. One boy will nearly faint with terror at the operation, while another will bear it with Stoic equanimity; one will howl in order that his master may have mercy on him, while another will scowl and devote his imagined persecutor to the gods below.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 20 2011, 6:32 PM 

Someone having phone at the spanked Korean girls' expense. I'm sure after they're through crying they won't be pleased with this plastered over the internet. Koreans are getting better at baseball. happy.gif

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 21 2011, 4:06 PM 

For the record on the matter of number 21. A.W. did not get too many spankings or cough medicine from his father. I'm not that A.W. although at times I might appear to be hitting the medicine cabinet too frequently or not enough. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 21 2011, 5:38 PM 

Was a kangaroo court ever held to determine punishment over there with prefects? It has some advantages. Would the huskiest ladies be called upon to do the honors for a female miscreant? I hope the boys wouldnt be given such an onerous task. What does "giving a glad hand, mean? Because it follows ostracism I would think it would mean a cold welcome like a symbolic insincere handshake.
The last time I didn't post for a short period of time there was concern. Well, it's back to the salt mines with the first day of spring behind us. I will be posting less frequently and with far greater interstices.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 21 2011, 6:12 PM 

I wasn't able to find anything about the administration of the public spanking (termed famous) but did search this down. Something akin to this may not have been uncommon among fraternities and unofficially among students. If school officials administered corporal punishment privately and let the students vote is one thing but this looks it may have been unprecedented, not repeated or under and/or unreported. Was this a disposition of the bonfire offense or did it extend beyond this incident? Maybe someone can beaver away and dig something up while I am occupied?

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Big John Manager of Images

Photo Opportunity

March 22 2011, 8:56 PM 

I will be posting less frequently and with far greater interstices. (Castor Surrealis)


Fortunately, there's still a lot of beaver about in Brighton.

[linked image]

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 26 2011, 6:30 PM 

This brings to mind my freshman year when the girls were tapped on their calves while struggling with factoring quadratics in algebra.

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American Way

Re: The Spanking Writers Abel & Haron

March 27 2011, 1:05 AM 

Disciplinary forms USA. Historical reference UK from suspect source but claimed to be factual? Has this been posted here? If it were authentic I would imagine so? Few things escape the attention of this Happy Circle. sad.gif

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Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 27 2011, 3:55 AM 

Come on American Way, there's still 5 days to go until April 1st! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

You said of the UK 'Disciplinary Record':

Historical reference UK from suspect source but claimed to be factual?

As it's from a spanking fiction site and described as 'useful for scenes!' I reckon it's about as authentic as a four pound note. However, Abel very occasionally posts here, so possibly he'll turn up and demonstrate that I'm mistaken!



 
 
American Way

News Archives

April 11 2011, 3:22 AM 

When you look back you find reasons to laugh when corporal punishment gender made such a big difference. Can you imagine if these standards were applied today? One girls school girls wants corporal punishment.

Mrs Hynie

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American Way

Heels

April 11 2011, 4:54 AM 

They're not exactly high heels (Fully clothed fetish site image) but it reminded me of prof n post in uneasy matrices thread. These enterprises have to avoid injuries to their models (consenting adults) and they may exercise the same precaution of not hitting the tailbone with wood. There has been practice on both ends. The elbows on the table and palms flat with staring straight ahead is not an uncommon posture in today's schools.

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prof n wrote: "Not to intrude but my long time friend , and first 'caner' Ms. F (Jackie) always removed her jacket (Trouser suit) and also kicked off her shoes, (Fairly high heels), before caning. Being precocious, I quizzed her about the latter and she said 'You try giving six of the best in a high heels : if you do you'd keep the orthopaedic surgeons busy!' She followed the same routine in the girls school too."


 
 
American Way

You always love the ones you hit

April 11 2011, 10:34 PM 

The last link was a familiar dramatization of corporal punishment. The last girl hit was the teacher's pet. Male teachers fall in love with the girls and female teachers fall in love with the boys they hit. Maybe the nuns loved me after all. Those girls sure can be nasty to each other.

http://youtu.be/GnRAMuhnWrw

http://youtu.be/TaYc-2xa_m4

http://youtu.be/0Gf8JKqt6HI

 
 
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Rod and Ferule

April 12 2011, 5:02 PM 

My sense of humor is somewhat unique but I found this 19th gem too good not to share. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

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Another_Lurker

Re: You always love the ones you hit

April 13 2011, 12:15 AM 

Hi American Way. I've never hesitated to criticise some of the links your extensive research has produced, but Another_Lurker tries to give both thanks and praise where they're due, and you've certainly earned both with the Thai TV series links in your April 11 2011, 10:34 PM post above!

You probably didn't realise, but the corporal punishment scene in them is the one I referenced here in the cane and parents watching thread, when I said:

Both the excellent quality and the rubbish quality versions previously linked here have now been removed from YouTube, but I bet there's another version out there somewhere. Seek and ye shall find, so 'tis said! And if you do, don't forget to post the link! wink.gif

Lo and behold, you've sought, found and posted, including the background to the punishment. My thanks and my congratulations! You said:

The last girl hit was the teacher's pet. Male teachers fall in love with the girls and female teachers fall in love with the boys they hit.

For the record, someone who'd seen the TV series commented on one of the previous YouTube manifestations that the Teacher eventually marries the girl. So that's all right then - I'm not sure it would pass muster in the UK or the USA, but other lands, other rules.

Those wanting to see the completion of the caning of the Teacher's girlfriend and what happened afterwards need to watch this YouTube video, the next in the series, which quite understandably evaded your eagle eye.

This fictitious but dramatic corporal punishment scene has previously cropped up here in various threads in addition to the recent 'cane and parents watching' thread I linked above. It intrigues me because as far as I am aware school corporal punishment has been banned in Thailand for some time, but here we have it represented in what I understand was a mainstream TV soap. Do we by any chance have any Thai readers, or readers familiar with Thai schools, who can resolve this dichotomy please? Posting here really is easy, even I can do it! So even if you haven't posted before why not give it a try if you've got any information?

 
 
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Psychological Spanking

April 16 2011, 1:44 AM 

It's interesting that in the states, and perhaps elsewhere but less often, the word spanking is uded whether it is a board or an apple branch. In any even I wouldn't want to cross paths with that man pictured in the link. Corporal punishment is used so infrequently even fewer than TWP. I think of Renee walking over to another school and differences of sizes of culprits. It seem just like yesterday for some here. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

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American Way

International mother gestapo

April 20 2011, 12:56 PM 

Too late. But then again never to early (infancy). Keep in mind we're talking Norway 1940 so this timeless idea was very timely

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ue9XAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RfUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7108,5758710&dq=spanking&hl=en


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 20 2011, 9:30 PM 

This went on too long. Doctor Webber was quite a principal back in the eighties. Granted she was going through a rough patch but they should had fired her a lot sooner. She defended herself for paddling an overwhelming majority of students by saying she did a few hundred while her teachers did 3,000 and that she wasn't drumming up trade to paddle. Her best alleged line was I'll kick your butt through the ceiling and kill you. If I had to do all the paddling myself I would be sick. However rare these stories are they didn't happen eons ago with students barely forty.

She was sick and now around 40 having not so fond memories of this time in their lives. She lost her job and there was a precipitous dropping in numbers over the ensuing years.

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She's paddling a child almost every 20 minutes. How could the poor woman paddle and get her work done. Maybe she paddled on Fridays like Booneville and Memphis. The menu will be fried bottoms.

 
 
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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 29 2011, 12:44 AM 

An imaginary illustration of a flogging of a woman in Virginia made its way to Marseilles and the state of Virginia felt slandered. They did not take an 18-year old- girl and have her flogged in the public square. I looked for it in Google Image to no avail. Could anyone search it down? Of the late Ive been having trouble opening PDF and it would appear that it might be available on scan but I cant be sure. This picture I found amusing enough to put under this thread.

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

May 4 2011, 9:08 PM 

Albeit off topic during the course of my readings I come across stories that I feel some readers of this estimable Forum may find amusing. My intent is to amuse and not annoy. American Way

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

May 5 2011, 5:15 AM 

Sports mascots are named after animals that are indigenous to their areas. Oregon State University has the beaver and so did Stinkwater High School of Cheerleader Autopsy. Chrissy is the one being paddled and from that angle, unlike the sfrsite already referenced, you can make out the tattoo on the upper left as well as shown clearly on the bottom right. She did complain that being freshly tattooed it was more painful. Obviously a carry around paddle can prove handy on field trip. The coach like Steve Halter has had a lifetime of waiting for woman to get ready and had enough. Students pay a heavy price for being tardy in some schools.

It is morning here so that's enough about the beaver. I will mercifully will give it a rest. Enjoy the you tube it's a piece of Americana.

http://youtu.be/dKm8z2myESE

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

May 13 2011, 7:21 PM 

Supermarket checkouts are boring without eye catching snares. We are down to a handful here. UK has been know to be the masters of "yellow journalism". We don't need that here with the entertainment new around the clock. Has there been an appreciable decline of newspapers and in tabloids more so? People are reading less so as the kids say it's all good: that goes for reading I suppose.

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Clergy abuse

May 17 2011, 5:33 PM 

The pastor of now shepherd less flock was taken into an anteroom where he was made to bend over a bench while the paddle, in the hands of a stout guard, was laid on his anatomy in a manner not calculated to inspire pulpit oratory.

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Another_Lurker

Re: Clergy abuse

May 17 2011, 9:41 PM 

Readers of this estimable Forum who thought that the above was yet another of American Way's links which can only be viewed properly in the US of A should click in the white space then press the 'End' key, whereupon they will be scrolled half a mile down the page and the first part of the article will appear. Traditionalists should of course do this via the left hand of the two scroll bars, giving their mouse arm considerable exercise in the process! wink.gif

Pretty tough on the unfortunate Reverend G. G. B. Howard, at liberty for 5 years and a week following his escape from prison, then hauled back and paddled! It's a pity the article didn't say what his initial crime was.

 
 
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Three "bops" with a paddle?

May 22 2011, 5:34 PM 

I have heard of three pops but not bops. Bops are unusual words and in light of the almost universal limit of three swats (5 swats TWP) today it caught my attention. Former Director of the Honors Program Claude Coleman (bit of a poet) Southern Illinois University. Maybe the article has something worth sharing with the readers of this estimable forum but I'm not paying $9.00. Some paddles were made from hickory.

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KK

Re: "Clergy" abuse - same old same old

May 22 2011, 8:44 PM 

PASTOR CONVICT ESCAPES;

The Rev. "G.F.B. Howard," a Federal Prisoner, Walks Out of the Ohio Penitentiary. HE GOT $2,000,000 BY FRAUD
Operations Conducted in This Country and England by Which He Pretended to Secure Rich Foreign Estates for His Victims.


COLUMBUS, Sept. 13. [1894] -- The Rev. G.F.B. Howard has escaped from the Ohio Penitentiary. He was a famous United States prisoner from Tennessee. He was trusted in the front office of the prison and walked away.

[...]

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F10E1EFA355D11738DDDAD0994D1405B8785F0D3


Ripping people off and pretending to be a pastor are not new, it seems.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Re: "Clergy" abuse - same old same old

May 23 2011, 1:16 AM 

Hi KK. What a splendid find! Thank you very much indeed! Following American way's posting of the account of the recapture of the Reverend G.F.B. Howard and his prison paddling for escaping (post by American Way on May 17 2011, 5:33 PM above) I queried what crime the Reverend had committed in my post on May 17 2011, 9:41 PM above. And now you have found the full derails of his crimes and his trial!

$2 million defrauded in the US and England in the early 1890s! Using Consumer Price Index calculation that's about $55 million in today's US dollars! Mind you in 1890 the Dollar - Pound rate was $4·85 to the pound, so $2 million was a bit less in Sterling than it would be at current exchange rate! sad.gif Ten years imprisonment for defrauding such sums still seems remarkably lenient though. I reckon today he'd be lucky to get off with 99 years to life! However in mitigation, after reading the accounts, I'm not clear if he actually embezzled that much as a personal gain or if it was the value of the supposed estates involved in the fraud.

The dates given in the New York Times account of the recapture are incorrect. He escaped on September 12 1897, according to the NYT article linked by KK, not September 12 1894, as stated in the account of the recapture. He was thus only at large for 2 years, not 5.

The paddling for the escape is interesting. Described as:

Compelled to bend over a box while a lusty guard vigorously applied a hickory paddle

and

The pastor of now shepherdless flocks ........... was taken into an anteroom where he was made to bend over a bench while the paddle, in the hands of a stout guard, was laid on his anatomy in a manner not calculated to inspire pulpit oratory.

I'd initially assumed from the brief account of his career that the reverend must have been quite an elderly man when he suffered this rough treatment. The account of the escape however gives his date of birth. Born in England, he seems to have packed a a great deal into his life, including University Professorships, and culminating in the frauds, and he was still only 46 at the time of his recapture after the escape from prison.

And finally, in the NYT article on the escape there is an account of his marriage at the age of 29 to a Miss Hughes, described as:

sixteen years old, and a member of an estimable and highly respected family

You don't often see the word 'estimable' used these days! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

 
 
KK

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

May 23 2011, 1:55 AM 

Definitions

Estimable
1. Possible to estimate (quantitative info available)
2. Deserving of esteem; admirable.

Inestimable
1. Incapable of being estimated or computed (little or no data available).
2. Too valuable or excellent to be measured or properly appreciated.

Inestimably(1) estimable(2) = inestimable(2)

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

June 3 2011, 7:14 AM 

This "news story" harkens back to the second posting of this long thread. 1997 was the year of the Nixon 4 + 1 that established the one vote majority in favor of SCP. This spoof talk night show has made a comeback as a popular rerun. Of course spanking a teenager with your hand is verboten, especially Kathy McCullen (Farah Fawcett wannabe), but many student handbooks do not explicitly limit the inflicting of pain to the paddle as the sole instrument of correction. I would imagine akin to a slippering spankings still occur with the smaller children especially in Christian schools with a homey milieu. It is, as I have mentioned before with 1st and 2nd graders, silly to be seeking out thin paddles (sorry TWP) for it is so counterintuitive just use your hand.

his video clip of the on air spanking of teenager, Debbie Dunbar, was recently discovered in a safe in underground vaults beneath the Al Azhar Islamic University in Cairo during the recent Egyptian revolution . They were in a container marked "Infidel Decadence." Attached to the cover of this clip was a sticky note which read, "May also use as a training Manual for Spanking Your Wives or Daughters."Fernwood H.S. Principal Demonstrates Method of Hand Spanking Teens.Spanking Debbie Dunbar.

It was an inauspicious start of a moderately successful career that began as a "scrumptious spankee". happy.gif

http://youtu.be/xiwaNdXkNMY

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Kiss on the lips versus the kiss of a cane?

June 15 2011, 3:52 PM 

I would courageously submit to CP from Sister Mary Godzilla (I'm not so sure about our headmistress) for the joy of kissing a girl I had a crush who bobbed her hair while the fashion was to tease hair. ;(

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Calls to my mind the flappers. A kiss is but a kiss.

At 1:20 in the video you will enjoy I assure you.

http://youtu.be/iBGDg9w5AtI

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Amityville Horror 1896. Ghostbusters.

June 16 2011, 10:24 PM 

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N. B. History of the edifice makes one wonder. The original house that stood on the property was built in 1782. The incident was in 1896 when few houses stood in this town. The story in the first click is told in an amusing manner IMHO.

Read corporal punishment spoon/heavy strap in second click? Could this house have a history? Woooooo. Woooooo. Who ya goin call?

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1959 insurance business

July 4 2011, 2:21 AM 

A young entrepreneur.

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1959 In Lowestoft, England, 13-year-old Geoffrey Small started his own insurance company in a grammar school. The cost was three cents a week for coverage. What was covered? Well, if you were kept over for detention, you received 42 cents and if you received what was called a major spanking, the payoff was 56 cents. Asked how business was, Geoffrey said, "Whacking good." However, a wave of misbehavior and subsequent spankings put him out of business.

 
 
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Sparks and pranks and spanks

July 4 2011, 3:25 AM 

A feminine bottom has always inspired boys to place tacks on chairs but always remove matches from back pockets before paddling.

Getting your bottom smoked. Liar - liar pants of fire.

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Tacks and school boys pranks. 1931 Minnesota jury fines school superintendent $750 for spanking prankster.

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 4 2011, 11:45 PM 

Dr Lawrence Gould: I revisited this renown psychologists and unearthed this gem about petting. The last link is iconic. I never knew the differences between necking and petting (kissing and fondling perhaps) but knew they were near occasions of sin thanks to the nuns.

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Gould? In case you forgot this thirty year columnists (1967) consulting psychologists I have reposted an iconic 1939 tabloid cover.

In surfing the links I was none to pleased with this reference to a buck-toothed schoolmate with my serendipitous journey. Ahem I was the one who was bullied. Enough of these stereotypes. Bottom left corner.

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He did have strong views about spanking.

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American Way

A Student's Quandary

July 8 2011, 2:24 PM 

The headmaster turned as white as a lily.

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The next day ten or fifteen of us were flogged by the headmaster, who, after the infliction of the punishment, turned as white as a lily, and suddenly, apparently realizing that he had thrashed in the number some of the best boys, vanished into the playground. We were all becalmed and subdued, except one boy who had not been flogged. He turned plaintively to me: "I say, old fellow, I would so much prefer to be licked. Don't you think I should go and ask him to thrash me?" I remember feeling two things - over and above the smart of the pain I was suffering. First a sense of the ludicrous, from the thought that the headmaster had so clearly had enough physical exercise, and that it would be incongruous to have a voluntary victim coming out and disturbing his reflections. More vividly still, there rose within me a sympathetic sense of the mental conflict of my friend's mind, and keen perception of the responsibility of his situation, for he had been one of the most rowdy. In the end he chose the harder course of not going, and, I believe, greatly blamed himself for it afterwards.


 
 
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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 18 2011, 2:03 AM 

Those who blushed at bloomers had no idea what pandemonium was in story a few decades later with the flappers.

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What we have here is a failure to communicate

July 18 2011, 9:40 AM 


 
 
American Way

One shy of 300 milestone

July 21 2011, 4:08 AM 

1903 Spanked daughter found her in a dancing hall waltzing with a dude happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif, against his orders.

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 23 2011, 1:50 AM 

The funniest spanking machine yet.

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Mothers Little Helper

July 23 2011, 1:53 AM 

I meant to append this.

http://youtu.be/8T9Aa1V5oyo

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 24 2011, 10:43 PM 

Considering the going ons of late would there be a more opportune time then now to interject some hum o/ou r?
prof n I think you might draw some conclusions requiring Renee's services if you put Mrs. Beale-Buss and Doctor Dominum writings side by side and question them in the office for academic dishonesty. Jenny would make the ideal witness ensuring gender neutrality. American Way will calculate the swats for first time offenders from the matrix.


I didn't meant to be mean. I was just trying to be funny
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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

July 24 2011, 10:55 PM 


Hi American Way .

First time offenders indeed ???????????!!!!!!!!!!happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

Looking at the file ,I think they've already served at least two years ISS cumulatively .Anyway I'd expect an appeal to at least the supreme court ..............unless we are on summer camp ! This could make Shelly ~Gaspersohn look like a walk in the park .happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

 
 
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Yankee Principal Whips 47 pupils in 13 minutes.

August 11 2011, 11:05 PM 

Holds Record As A Spanker.  Yankee Principal Whips 47 pupils in 13 minutes.

Prof.  Lillie, principal of one of the schools in Manchester, Conn., holds the record as a spanker.  Armed with an ordinary ruler he administered forty-seven spankings in thirteen minutes the other day, thus turning tearful boys and girls away from him at the rate of three and eight-tenths boys and girls a minute.  It is scarcely necessary to add that Prof. Lillie is a warm advocate of spanking as a disciplinary method.

The liberal application of the rod in the Manchester schools was caused by the visit of a minstrel troupe to the town.  The gorgeous parade, unluckily, was passing the school building just as the noon bell rang.  The temptation proved too much for some of the pupils.  They could go to school any day, but only once in a weary age did anything like a parade appear.  So when the rest filed into school in obedience to the summons of the bell, a heat flock of the boys and some of the girls bolted across the green and after the minstrel band, which had just turned the corner of the street.

They had thought that in numbers there was strength, and that with so many of them to handle the professor would have to let them off with light chastisement.  They expected to be kept after school for maybe a half hour or so.  The penalty every one of them was quite willing to pay in exchange for the unalloyed bliss of viewing the parade.

But they didn't know Prof. Lillie, it seems.  He followed in hot pursuit immediately after the truants.  He ordered them back to school, and they were persuaded by the sound of his voice that they had better go.  Then he commanded the whole joyous band to file down the stairs one after the other.  At the bottom of the flight he met and interviewed each one personally with the ruler.  And there was no exception, even in the case of girls.

Prof. Lillie regards his action through philosophic eyes:  "I don't care if corporal punishment has been abolished in the schools," he says, "so longs as I teach school I'll use the rod and the ruler when it is necessary.  The highfaluting, new fangled notions are all right in their way - that is, so long as a child doesn't need disciplining, but when he does, there is, after all, only one way to do it, and that is to spank him.

Much more humorous account follows.

Teacher Holds Spanking Championship

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American Way's supplementary hyperlink transcribed

August 12 2011, 12:10 AM 

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82016413/1902-05-04/ed-1/seq-12/

Evening Bulletin (Honolulu), May 04, 1902, Page 12

Teacher Holds Spanking Championship

Forty seven punitive performances in thirteen minutes - this is the record breaking score made by Professor F. A. Lillie, of Manchester, Conn. Translated into New England vernacular, this means simply that Professor Lillie has broken all previous spanking records - his own included. It means that by his recent wholesale chastisement of unruly boys and girls at the rate of three and eight-thirteenths spankings per minute, the Nutmeg State schoolmaster has become the champion spanker of the world.

"Pooh! I don't mind Professor Millie's spanking one mite,' said a tiny, red checked, curly headed miss in her shrill, childish treble. "He thinks he licks hard, but it didn't hurt at all. At least it didn't hurt us girls. We went to school that morning prepared."

When asked what she meant by going "prepared," the little maid hung her head, blushed and murmured shyly:

"Why, every one of us girls wore three or four extra flannel petticoats that morning."

"But you all screamed and cried," it was insisted.

"Oh, well, we have to do that to fool Professor Lillie. He's foxy. My, but he's a foxy duck! And if we hadn't made believe to cry he'd have suspected something wrong and then he'd have given us something to make us howl in earnest.

"Never touched me!" declared one of the ringleaders of the boys when I questioned him. "Never touched me! Never touched any of us! He had his trouble all for nothing. Think we would go and do a fool thing like that and not wear plenty of pads?"

The urchin winked knowingly. "What did we wear? Oh, lots of things - all the flannel shirts we had and our football trousers under our knickerbockers."

That is the version given by the boys and girls spanked, none of whom will confess having been the least bit hurt by the operation.

And now for Professor Lillie's side of the story, which does not differ materially, except that he appeared when talking to me to be perfectly innocent of the ruse played upon him.

Professor Lillie is not, as might be supposed, an old fashioned demagogue. He is the principal of the Manchester Public Schools, which are eight in number, accommodating five hundred pupils and employing twelve teachers. He has occupied his present position for nine years, coming to Manchester from Middle Haddam, where he distinguished himself in like manner while principal of the public schools in that city.

He looks like a man who couldn't hurt a spider, let alone spank a boy or girl, however naughty and deserving of it.

"Of course I did it - spanked forty seven of them in not quite thirteen minutes." he said, "and, do you know, I believe I could have done it in ten
"Deny it? Of course not. I did it, and I'm willing always to stand by the things I do. Besides, the little rascals all deserved it and I have the support of their parents."

 
 
American Way

You have come a long way baby

August 14 2011, 11:25 PM 

102 years ago things were sure different. The way the journalists report the story brings humor into a an unpleasant situation.

Spanked woman wins her suit.

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 18 2011, 5:31 PM 

I am sorry for repeating my one shy of 300 post on the "dude" under another thread. I thought I did but should have search that word before I posted.

With so much depressing news I hope this will provide a brief diversion.

Otago Witness , Issue 2086, 15 February 1894, Page 27

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When you convert to text form the first choleric word is censored. If you scroll toward the bottom you can see that forbidden choleric word among others but when you computer generate you get the censor.

I didn't think the same would apply to newspaper archives. Is this something embedded by some higher authority? Changing words in archives has a chilling effect.

On a lighter note, if the teacher was allowed to use this said word it would have spared a big girl from getting a spanking.

prof n's friend Jackie allowed cuss words as spontaneous reactions while being corporally chastised. That would not be tolerated by Renee, et. al.


 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 18 2011, 10:21 PM 

Hi American Way. With regard to the NZ Government Papers Past Project Otago Witness newspaper you link above and the availability of an 'auto conversion mechanism' from page image via OCR to text you said above:

When you convert to text form the first choleric word is censored. If you scroll toward the bottom you can see that forbidden choleric word among others but when you computer generate you get the censor.

I didn't think the same would apply to newspaper archives. Is this something embedded by some higher authority? Changing words in archives has a chilling effect.

What an absolutely fascinating observation, one on which you are to be congratulated! You are absolutely correct. The word 'ass' on the page image has been converted to «».« in the text version!

This is indeed chilling! Big Brother writ large! It is bad enough that agencies like Network54 choose to censor words. *** is what Fred, the Network54 auto censor, will do to the word in question unless special precautions, such as those I used for its earlier occurrence, are invoked.

To censor words from newspaper archives is even worse. Whether this is the deliberate policy of the New Zealand Government is, I think, probably questionable. More likely the blind unthinking incorporation of some standard software routine is responsible.

But how on earth did a word which occurs several times in the Bible, one of the world's most widespread holy books, get onto the list of words to be censored in the first place? Simply political correctness! The adherents of this accursed scourge of freedom will take any and every chance to propagate their vile and insidious creed. I know about this sort of thing. I can't use my surname, a name which goes back hundreds of years in local archives, as a username because just about every ISP in the UK uses standard username filter software which censors it!

 
 
KK

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 18 2011, 11:49 PM 

No! No! No!

We are not prudes here and donkeys can safely be referred to by the alternative name. A search of the NZ newspapers for the word gave 68727 hits.

The impolite word here is spelt arse (or a_r_s_e) and even that would not be censored these days. Rather, the OCR software has failed to decipher the text. It often seems to have difficulty with italics.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 19 2011, 1:13 AM 

I jumped to a false conclusion based on suspicions that proved wrong this time. In the text generated first newspaper you will see a word on the first line and a little more challenging to find in the second newspaper that is unfit for our estimable Forum. It is a test and only a test so don't beat up on me. sad.gif

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 19 2011, 1:16 AM 

The test failed but I am not thwarted. wink.gif

 
 
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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 19 2011, 1:27 AM 

This is a bit silly on my part but bear with me. The computer text generated line through a letter error may pass censor this time on the first line. This shows the word, rightly IMHO, is censored if you use it as a search word when you share it. wink.gif

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 19 2011, 1:47 AM 

What makes it such a silly exercise is that the likelihood of scrambling a four letter word rather than a larger number and depending on the usage of the particular consonants and vowels by common usage would nigh be impossible to calculate. The fact that this seven letter word has only appeared twice indicates how infrequently the word is used in the first place in the mainstream.

 
 
KK

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 19 2011, 2:59 AM 

Most of the NZ newspaper hits for the donkey word are for OCR contractions of "Press Association". And most of the hits for impolite "arse" are due to incorrect recognitions of poorly printed letters. I have not found any censorship of the donkey word which it is rarely used in NZ except in biblical references and when suggesting someone has been foolish.

 
 
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"PALMIES"

August 20 2011, 5:58 AM 

Research is often advanced just be the use of a synonym or slang. With the paddle it could be the word "lick" or "swat" or in its earlier days "shingle" that links you to stories worth viewing.

Corporal punishment of the hands

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American Way

Teacher whips father and boy

August 20 2011, 4:05 PM 

The details of the fight proved amusing. Albeit 1909 it shows the difficulties that occur when parents don't back the school when it comes to the discipline of children.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 21 2011, 1:43 AM 

August 12th follow up on champion spanker. It must have been a slow news day. To make it less work look to the upper right hand corner.


http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84020274/1902-04-20/ed-1/seq-47.pdf


 
 

Bob T

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 22 2011, 12:27 AM 


 
 
American Way

Female Teachers

August 23 2011, 3:28 PM 

For some reason there seems to be lot of humorous accounts of corporal punishment around the turn of the the twentieth century. Improved communication and slow news days, similar I suppose to how a 24 hr around the clock television, are bringing news hardly worth conveying in any media form. I don't think any thread is as long with practically the same poster. I think these stories are worth sharing here and are not altogether off topic. I have sometimes been wrongly taken to task IMHO, gratefully more gently of late, but I rarely start new threads. Perhaps someone can put together a highlight.

I can't be objective for I have been told my humor (like its spelling ) is somewhat unique.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 25 2011, 7:39 PM 

New Jersey girls are to have an official spanker for $1,000 a year. But never on a Sunday.

NEW JERSEY GIRLS TO HAVE OFFICIAL SPANKER
Many Women Apply for Job and Give Athletic Prowess as Reasons for Their Appointment
TRENTON, N. X, Jan. 22.An offlclal spanker or disciplinarian in the state home for girls, this city, is provided for in a bill to be introduced in the. New Jersey legislature. The managers of the home say corporal punishment is absolutely necessary In order to train the inmates properly. If the measure passes the official spanker will receive $1000 a year. The spanker will be a woman. She must maintain certain hours at the institution daily, excepting Sunday. It has been decided that there shall not be any spanking on the Sabbath. That will give the girls one day of rest. The present officials at the home do not care to administer corporal punishment, although they admit it is essential to good discipline. Applications have been received from numerous persons for the new berth, and these bring up the question whether the position will have to come under the Jurisdiction of the civil service commission.
One applicant for the spankershlp was a man, said to be a prominent merchant of Camden. Friends of his say on his behalf that he supposed the spanker waa wanted at an institution for boys.
Mrs. Henry Sikes of Newark in writing for the job said:
"I have eighteen children of my own and I know I can spank or discipline better than any woman in New Jersey. I would not be cruel, but guarantee to leave an impression in every instance. Am willing to do the work for $500."
Mrs. Joseph Burns of Atlantic City gave this list of qualifications: "I weigh 250 pounds, use dumbbells, boxing gloves and a punching bag daily, and believe I can do the work scientifically." Mrs. Burns is a widow. She has been married four times


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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

August 25 2011, 10:11 PM 

A funny fictional piece about Kimball Price a ten year old that has to pay a quarter to his teacher for wearing her out in 1876 from a birching. Can you imagine how rich the nuns would be?

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American Way

Doukhobors

September 4 2011, 4:05 AM 

Whipping of Doukhobors high school girls. September 15, 1931

Government census takers wore recently routed by a group of High School girls.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/printArticlePdf/67288580/4?print=n

FYI on Doukhobors.

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Lighter side of the nudity problem with creative ideas.

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The girls sixty years later.

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American Way

Vanity Oops

September 4 2011, 12:12 PM 

First link under lighter side of nudity problem.

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American Way

Equal justice under the law.

September 5 2011, 6:56 PM 

Can you imagine this happening today? While it is not school corporal punishment it gives a flavor of the advantage that a man had over his wife. What if it were the wife who was wrong would she have to paddle both to be acquitted? Quite frankly if this were earlier in the century it would be unusual but in 1983 it's bizarre. You wouldn't expect this of a judge anywhere in the USA a quarter of a century ago. I have a few stories (by stretches of the imagination) in my quiver when things slow down in the postings on this estimable Forum. I hope readers forgive me if I go far astray.

If it was usually a male principal, woman were rare as administrators on the higher school levels even in 1983, who would paddle girls the size and near the age of wives. The same would apply to fathers punishing daughters. The judge was probably up there in age to be thinking along these lines.

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American Way

Judge Bill Ragan

September 5 2011, 7:38 PM 

The first link is a follow on his spanking ruling. His rulings about the chicken state of mind and drinking and driving are classics. My research is a labor of love and I hope a source amusement for others.

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Judge Bill Ragan was 57 years old at the time of the 1983 ruling.

Up for reelection who said of those proned to vote against him in favor of his opponent in 1994.

"How can intelligent lawyers vote for a car dealer who's never practiced law in his life and think he's better qualified than a judge who's been on the bench 25 years and handled over 100,000 cases," Ragan lamented. "It goes to show the absurdity of those polls."

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American Way

Pugilistic tendencies

September 6 2011, 10:21 PM 

The prime of Miss Jean A Dwyer:

I also submit that It is a physical impossibility to whip a boy twenty minutes without becoming exhausted. I have whipped pupils before and become perfectly exhausted and yet administered but a few strokes.

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She had an ungovernable temper and a perpetual menace of harmony and good discipline even having slapped a fellow teacher across her face according to her principal..

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Miss Dwyer more than acquitted herself in her defense.

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Judge defended Miss Jean Dwyer. He was probably afraid to cross her.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 11 2011, 11:37 PM 

Eighteen year old girl given reproof and reprieve by marrying judge.

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American Way

Schoolmaster's Record

September 12 2011, 7:48 AM 

Johann Jacob Haberle should have taught arithmetic.

A TEACHER OF THE OLD SCHOOL.

The attention of those who are interested in educational matters is invited to the life work of Johann Jakob Haberle, an industrious teacher of the good old school. During his life he kept ii diary of the number of punishments inflicted by him on pupils. He records that during 51 years he distributed 911,517 strokes with a stick, 240,100 birch rod smites, 136,715 hand smacks, 10,986 blows with a ruler, 10,235 slaps on the face, 8,000 boxes on the ears, 115,800 on the head, and that he set some 13,000 tasks from the Bible, so that it was necessary to purchase a new copy, through wear and tear, every two years. Seven hundred and seventy-seven times did Johann make his children kneel on dried peas, while 5,001 times he stood them in his corners with rulers over their heads." Kansas City Journal.

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American Way

Judicial Corporal Punishment Mrs. Fanny Hyde

September 12 2011, 10:47 PM 

Pretty murderess and sentimental jurors and the lash brought to mind a celebrated case here of the trial of Casey Anthony. Don't waste your time reading about that case when there something as enjoyable to read as the link below. I may stray from topic but we all need a laugh. Few will be able to refrain from
laughing at this vintage piece from April 1872.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 19 2011, 7:42 PM 

A very public spanking for Miss New Orleans 1948 with a sad twist.

Miss New Orleans 1948 very public spanking.

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Feisty Beauty Queen will not apologize.

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She freshens up her "war paint" to fix her husband and wants annulment.

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Annulment granted.

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Suicide attempt.

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American Way

Spank President Castro

September 20 2011, 3:26 PM 

Given Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez this is quite a political coincidence.

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American Way

William Cullen Bryant spanking soiree

September 20 2011, 9:18 PM 

March 15 2011 Quad's Odds page 255. Of some historical significance is the letter of William Cullen Bryant with spanking soiree. That may have slipped the attention of some of his biographers. happy.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cullen_Bryant

For those who would like to read Quad's Odds in friendly format. Pertinent page found on 255.

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Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 20 2011, 11:47 PM 

Hi American Way,

I trust that you won't mind me explaining to anyone trying to follow up your reference to William Cullen Bryant and the spanking soiree via your second link above that:
  1. You need to enter 277 not 255 in the ludicrously slow but efficient Java driven display mechanism. This will take you to page 255 of Quad's Odds, whereon commences a description of a spanking machine invented (allegedly wink.gif) by Mr Quad.

  2. Turning the page by clicking the right control arrow will then take you to pages 256 and 267. On the former is a drawing of the machine in use, and only then, half way down 257 will you find the joke 'testimonial' from William Cullen Bryant, which was of course simply an invention by Mr Quad.
I am very sorry to complain, American Way, but I can't for the life of me see why you couldn't simply have said that and saved everyone having to discover it for themselves. sad.gif

 
 
Ameican Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 20 2011, 11:56 PM 

Next time I'll give the page number and link it like this so you can choose the format more to your liking and you can sort it all out. Is that more better? happy.gif

http://www.archive.org/details/quadsodds00quadgoog


 
 
Alan Turing

Re: Corporal Punishment Lighter Side

September 21 2011, 1:02 PM 

As I mentioned in a post in the duff up Another_Lurker, go on, make his day thread, I'm now in the Czech Republic. I was sitting in the train earlier this morning, and across the aisle was a group of English people (two men and a woman) who seemed to be from the head office of some retail organisation. They appeared to be talking about arrangements in the stores at particular times of year, and I was astonished to hear one of the men say

... and if you find a pretty girl, you spank her bottom and she'll give you sweets!

So this type of behaviour must be common knowledge (and quite common).

 
 
American Way

Pomlázkas

September 21 2011, 1:48 PM 

Alan: Perhaps they are referring to this custom.

PRAGUE
One of the more unusual Easter customs takes place in the Czech Republic on Easter Monday. Boys gather up willow branches (pomlázkas) and go from house to house lightly whipping girls on their legs. It may sound barbaric, but the whipping is meant to be more a symbolic gesture than a punishment. The custom dates back to pagan times and is supposed to chase away illness and bad spirits, as well as bestowing beauty, health and vivacity. In return, girls give the boys beautifully painted eggs or chocolate.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 21 2011, 2:45 PM 

In the states where there are large Polish population they have Dyngus Day with pussy willow token smacks. Easter Monday is called by some Wet Monday and now involve water balloons.

http://www.dyngusdaybuffalo.com/moreaboutdyngusday/newsarticles.html

http://pinoytutorial.com/lifebytes/dyngus-day-celebration/


 
 
Alan Turing

Re: Pomlázkas

September 21 2011, 4:33 PM 

American Way: indeed they are. I've mentioned this before, and there a whole thread about it here.

We know about it. My reason for mentioning the matter is that visitors to the Czech Republic, who don't have our particular interest in this subject (I assume), seem to know about it too.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 21 2011, 6:24 PM 

The only anecdotal account (Polish) I have heard of here is with the dousing with water. It does seem like the girls are good sports and American feminists would be more likely to object to the striking of their buttocks however ancient the tradition. The youngsters seem to be enjoying themselves. And why not?

http://youtu.be/bwm55nMZyeA

http://youtu.be/sOsvIYlkOr8

http://youtu.be/AgITE4hFLXw

 
 
Alan Turing

Just to make it clear

September 21 2011, 9:43 PM 

The three links in American Way's post above are Czech. They're not Polish.

(I am, after all, posting this message from the Czech Republic! You'd think that I'd know the difference!)

 
 
American Way

Duh

September 21 2011, 10:28 PM 

I'm not that unaware about the origins of said videos. I am as aware as anyone here that they are NOT Polish. The drenching is Polish and the spanking is mostly Czech. The Polish Americans here have made me aware of the soaking tradition or what is called Wet Monday.


 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Pomlázkas

September 21 2011, 10:50 PM 

Hi Alan Turing,

You say above of the Czech customs under discussion:

My reason for mentioning the matter is that visitors to the Czech Republic, who don't have our particular interest in this subject (I assume), seem to know about it too.

I don't think this is surprising. In the thread you link former esteemed contributor Bozo mentions that the custom is featured in the 'Rough Guide' to the area, a very widely read travel publication I believe. Further I recall mentions of this in 'The Daily Telegraph' and on the radio (it would have to be R4 as that is all I listen to happy.gif). Whilst we here may be very interested in this sort of thing, a not insubstantial proportion of the UK population is mildly interested and, if travelling to the country concerned, might recall and revise such mentions.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 22 2011, 7:30 PM 

How should corporal punishment be administered? Quite a talented nine year old. Housewives exchange found third column almost half way down..

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1904-04-21/ed-1/seq-7.pdf


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

September 30 2011, 11:51 PM 

The brave new world envisioned in 1914 did not quite come to fruition nor may the prophecies of today made by those enamored by the wizardry of technology.

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American Way

Official Spanker 1910

October 2 2011, 11:07 PM 

Posted August 25, 2011 in this thread.

NEW JERSEY GIRLS TO HAVE OFFICIAL SPANKER

Many Women Apply for Job and Give Athletic Prowess as Reasons for Their Appointment

TRENTON, N. J, Jan. 22.

An offlclal spanker or disciplinarian in the state home for girls, this city, is provided for in a bill to be introduced in the. New Jersey legislature. The managers of the home say corporal punishment is absolutely necessary In order to train the inmates properly. If the measure passes the official spanker will receive $1000 a year. The spanker will be a woman. She must maintain certain hours at the institution daily, excepting Sunday. It has been decided that there shall not be any spanking on the Sabbath. That will give the girls one day of rest.
The present officials at the home do not care to administer corporal punishment, although they admit it is essential to good discipline. Applications have been received from numerous persons for the new berth, and these bring up the question whether the position will have to come under the Jurisdiction of the civil service commission. One applicant for the spankershlp was a man, said to be a prominent merchant of Camden. Friends of his say on his behalf that he supposed the spanker was wanted at an institution for boys.
Mrs. Henry Sikes of Newark in writing for the job said:
"I have eighteen children of my own and I know I can spank or discipline better than any woman in New Jersey. I would not be cruel, but guarantee to leave an impression in every instance. Am willing to do the work for $500."
Mrs. Joseph Burns of Atlantic City gave this list of qualifications: "I weigh 250 pounds, use dumbbells, boxing gloves and a punching bag daily, and believe I can do the work scientifically." Mrs. Burns is a widow. She has been married four time

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A spanking would would be considered more humane. They could be using the word "spanker" as meaning lashing but that does not seem likely considering the timeline. The sticklers here who want 100% certainty are out of the luck. They cannot deal with my reasonable surmises. So be it.

Adult content fetish sites might seize this story but it has the gravitas that merits Colin Farrell's attention.

Peculiar to me is that the executioner determines the sentence metaphorically speaking. I can understand why the workers would like to distance themselves from this and to a certain extent the spanking machine would for their bottoms what they couldn't personalize than with someone they had a non-disciplinary encounters with. The New York Times describes the leather lash.

On January 16th 1910. New York Times.

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Trenton, N.J., Jan.14, 1910 to the Baltimore Sun.

Spankers Job is popular.

Early next week a bill to be introduced into the New Jersey Legislature providing for an official "spanker" at the State Home for Girls in this city.

The measure will provide a salary of $1,000 a year and corporal punishment will be made perfectly legal at the institution. THIS IS NOT CONSIDERED A FREAK BILL, as the last report of the management of the home showed that corporal punishment was indispensable.

No one at the at the home present cares to inflict the necessary punishment, and often the inmates go unpunished. Consequently those interested in the institution are urging the appointment of a woman whose sole duty it will be to forcibly discipline all the girls who require her attention.

There are already many applicants for the berth. One woman has written that she is the mother of 15 children and considers herself well qualified to be the official "spanker." Another writes she is 6 feet tall, weighs 250 pounds and believes she will prove the best "spanker" in New Jersey.

A third woman lays claim to the position because she has been using dumb-bells, a punching bag and boxing gloves for daily exercise. All applicants have different physical qualifications, and there is no doubt that if some of them were chosen the need of corporal punishment at the home during 1910 would either be materially lessened or the hospital annex at the institution will be overworked.

The measure will further provide that the disciplinarian will have power to determine the punishment to be given in every case. She will not be allowed to call upon others to aid her, except where greater strength than she possesses is necessary. She will have daily hours at the institution, but will be not be asked to do any spanking on Sunday.

The last link indicates that over the knee spanking with a slipper was used in another state.

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American Way

Official Spanker 1910

October 4 2011, 3:44 AM 

N.B. The March date and we know that stories like these develop a life of their own. I haven't been able to confirm that someone was indeed hired.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 5 2011, 11:02 PM 

Crank Up the McGregor Spanking Machine.

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Up the MacGregors. Fun to watch especially at 1:07

http://youtu.be/QycaMZjpRKQ

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 6 2011, 4:37 AM 

Hi American Way,

How on earth do you find these things? No, don't answer that. I'd rather not know! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

 
 
American Way

Are you suffering from Frog's Psychology?

October 15 2011, 2:56 PM 

I think this is one of my better submissions to the is estimable Forum. Self praise is no praise, albeit, be that as it may.

Frog's Applied Psychology

http://francistapon.com/Travels/Advice/Frog-Psychology

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 15 2011, 8:02 PM 

Corporal punishment for dress code. I took particular delight in Marc Ecko mention.

http://phillipian.net/articles/students-defy-dress-code-corporal-punishment-used


 
 
American Way

New Jersey Girls 1908 California ones 1896

October 16 2011, 2:45 AM 

By 1910 they needed a full time spanker. This 1908 story leads up to that situation.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030193/1908-12-09/ed-1/seq-3.pdf

In 1896 California girls needed a taste of corporal punishment as well.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85042461/1896-12-03/ed-1/seq-3.pdf

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 22 2011, 3:45 PM 

I learned something today. I have always searched Google but today I did Bing. Simply placing the cursor over the image of the video you get a sample of it. This saves time for it avoids annoying commercials and gives you an idea of what to expect. I came across this video that has been up for quite sometime. It makes one wonder if more girls bend over to be caned to enjoy their consenting partner in kinkiness and use them as sex toys in Melbourne than as instruments of school correction. But of course they do things different in Melbourne. wink.gifhappy.gifwink.gif Maybe after prof n's well deserved vacation he can trace cyber chat. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif. Here is a video that spoofs the overlap between fetish and school corporal punishment that some, not to be presumptuous, may find amusing. She refuses a female witness for she doesn't want to be treated any differently. Jenny take note. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

On a more relevant note, TWP tried to find an appropriate paddle and an adult toy site (now defunct) was sited and was quoted by opponents of corporal punishment to promote their cause. That's hitting below the belt. No pun intended. sad.gif

http://youtu.be/g_S3FE2NS_Y

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 22 2011, 3:58 PM 

It wouldn't be fair to put the onus upon the UK cane without mentioning the paddle. Maybe in Oxford Alabama (Trey Holladay) it would be employed less as a sex toy and purely for disciplinary purposes as in the prom paddling. Eye of the beholder.

http://youtu.be/ciLpp-9ilcc

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 24 2011, 8:23 PM 

Military attire through the ages..

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Ukraine army and military police have a secret weapon. wink.gif

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Chile female soldiers get a taste of the cane. Just a taste. happy.gif

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 28 2011, 6:44 PM 

The Eton cane on the lighter side.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 29 2011, 5:48 PM 

Making of Mr. Mom among the rich and powerful. The high and mighty millionaire understands the burdens of being a woman. They understand better why lady schoolteachers have to act somewhat against their high principals about school corporal punishment. wink.gif

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

October 30 2011, 9:34 PM 

Best cure for texting in the theatre.

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American Way

All in a days work 1898

October 31 2011, 6:38 PM 

Spanking stopped rebellion.

When he had finished he was out of breath, and his arms ached almost as if he had been a successful candidate shaking hands after election.

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American Way

James Henry 1877 Metaphorically Kissing the Rod

November 1 2011, 2:14 AM 

Chapter is taken from Comic Liar by W.L (William Livingston) Alden

Electronic Library page 284 for those who find Google Books problematic.

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American Way

1877 James Henry "joggling awful"

November 1 2011, 2:31 AM 

What is "joggling" mean? In situ New York Times article. 1877. Corporal punishment 1877. Snippets are fine but sometimes seeing a newspaper puts the time period in context. Something I hope some will enjoy. Sixth column.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 11 2011, 6:07 AM 

On Veterans day 2011 a toast to the Evil Empire's secret weapon. wink.gif

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Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 11 2011, 11:55 AM 

Hi American Way,

A very nice find! However I have to warn you that the officer on the left of the picture, and the one fourth from the right, have an eye on you, so be careful! wink.gif But why have a small picture when you could have a big picture!

Google says there are 232 matches for this picture on the web. I think the one I've linked above is one of the two biggest, but I could be wrong as there is at least one version of the picture that Google records as 'visually similar' rather than a match. In that case it's because some oaf of a Russian has besmirched the picture by drawing circles round some of the bottoms and numbering them, possibly in order of preference!

So for those of you who, like American Way and I, are fans of the callipygian, there may be even bigger versions of the picture out there. But wait, American Way, I thought you were just a 'beautiful hands' man! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

Your reopening this thread has reminded me that I meant to comment on your previous post. You asked:

What does "joggling" mean?

A good question! What exactly was the big for his age 14 year old James Henry doing when in 1877 his classmate reported him as 'a-joggling awful' and his diminutive school teacher observed with her own eyes the lad engaged in the 'loathsome vice' and 'evil' act of joggling?

Now we might make some guesses based on the language used. But surely not in a classroom for goodness sake! But if not, what on earth was joggling, an activity which in 1877 was prone to reach 'epidemic proportions' in rural schools?

Sadly I don't know the answer to that. What I can tell you is what joggling means now. For my sins I once spent a period in charge of a large bulk mailing operation, and when you're chopping up millions of sheets of very large format continuous computer stationery into individual documents, sorting them, folding them, merging them and stuffing them into envelopes you do a lot of joggling. Or rather your machinery does, by means of fitments known as 'jogglers' or 'joggling plates'.

Essentially these are smooth flat rectangular metal plates which vibrate very rapidly. Usually they are slightly inclined, with a retention/alignment plate at right angles to the lower edge. As never ending steams of stationery pass over them stacked on edge the vibration ensures that all the sheets align themselves neatly in the pack, with no edges or corners sticking out anywhere to jam in the next bit of machinery. Doesn't always work though! sad.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 11 2011, 11:00 PM 

The fourth from the right is the one I have my eyes on. With due attribution to the larger image from my colorful box avatar (I'll get back on your generous offer to help create one) friend and at times partners in crime I take full responsibility in the decision to post here and throw myself at the mercy of an executioner. Caveat emptier. These studies involve heterosexual men. You be the judge.

A fair question would be why the totally irrelevant transfer to Renee's thread. Was it really her thread if I am not given proper attribution for starting close to the longest thread in this estimable Forum's interests? Was I being passive aggressive in doing so? Was it to resuscitate interest in a thread in need of life support? Perhaps my therapists was right when she diagnose me as having a narcissistic personality though I told her to go look himself in the mirror. Hey, she got paid for not being very nice to me. sad.gif

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Veterans day salute. We couldn't have won all ythose wars without you. American Way.

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Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 12 2011, 12:33 AM 

Hi American Way,

How often do I have to tell you? When it comes to graphics size does matter! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

Picture One      Picture Two

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 12 2011, 3:54 AM 

I posted my image because of the zoom function lacking in yours. Somehow it must have escaped your attention. Time for a check up. happy.gif

http://www.anytimecostumes.com/halloween/sexy-costume-guard-me-royally-sexy

 
 

Another_Lurker

That zoom function

November 14 2011, 4:42 AM 

Hi American Way,

Please! D'ye think I came up the Clyde on a water biscuit? As they are wont to say in Glasgow. You can't seriously think that I wouldn't notice the zoom function! Do you think I got where I am today by not noticing zoom functions! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

The zoom function is an Adobe Flash routine which takes a 640 by 320 pixel image identical to the one I linked and displays it in a fixed window, adjusting the size according to your input to the routine's controls. You can't save it (except by a screen grab) and you can't link to it. In short it is useless. The images I linked can be downloaded, linked and modified and hence, far from being useless, are actually highly valuable resources. But if you don't want 'em so be it. I shall go away and sulk! sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 14 2011, 10:14 AM 

Sorry Clyde. The zoom function was something you were aware but it is easy peasy i an expression among others I learned from you or maybe some other lurker. IMHO easier in comparison to download, link and modify, given capacity to do so.


 
 
American Way

Boys will be Boys

November 14 2011, 7:34 PM 

IMHO the abolition of school corporal punishment's impact on school behavior is a bit over the top. happy.gif

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American Way

Prince Henri de Croy

November 19 2011, 3:01 PM 

Far afield do my searchers take me not to yield gems so indulge me as I feel compelled to share what I have just unearthed. How can this wandering soul conceal them from this Happy Circle such findings? Enjoy.

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American Way

Double Jeopardy

November 21 2011, 6:51 AM 

A case of mistaken identity - mistaken identity - mistaken identity. I came across this on my entry about a father having the right to spank a 35 year old daughter. Same city and same newspaper. I then Google the name of the pupil and found a much more detailed report in the NYT.

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Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 26 2011, 12:58 AM 

I trust that my esteemed fellow contributor American Way will not object to my intruding into a thread which has been pretty much his personal fiefdom, but I can't think of anywhere else to put this.

A small but VERY exclusive group of our male contributors have on occasion expressed a wish that they had been corporeally punished by one of their lady teachers. Indeed there is one of them who is quite likely to achieve his ambition if he doesn't get on with a promised (and now long overdue) thread celebration! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

Members of said group, and indeed anyone who likes playing Flash games may care to have a go at Naughty Classroom which I found by chance when looking for a picture of a paddle (don't ask)!

The blurb on the host site assured me that:

Flustered teachers make schoolboys rowdy! Careful, though. You may earn yourself a spanking!

However I am not the world's best game player (indeed I may be the worlds's worst) and all I could do was make the young lady teacher walk up and down in front of the class to the accompaniment of some midi type plink plonk music. She didn't appear to have any chastisement implement though. sad.gif Indeed, I can't be sure that I was even responsible for the perambulation by the teacher. It may happen automatically.

If anyone does succeed in getting themselves (or anybody else) chastised, post a screen shot. A word of warning though. As noted I got nowhere in the game, so if it transpires that buried in the code there are scenes of such CP carnage that they cause shock and horror to even the hardened veterans of this estimable Forum don't blame me! happy.gif

 
 
prof.n

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 26 2011, 2:20 AM 

Hi Another Lurker

I had a quick go , got teacher to slip on the banana, get the frog in her bra, have her skirt blown away by the fan , get two kids thrown out of class to the accompaniment of 'you need a good spanking boy ' and then myself was ejected from the game with the comment getttttouttt. !!!!!No paddle in sight , I'm afraid, and unlike my friend Jackie didn't follow through on the threats either !!!!!!!sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif scored 4,000 points , not very good I guess.

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 26 2011, 2:54 AM 

A person here once wrote that there are some who would like to trade places with me. I can assure you it is not as enjoyable as you may imagine. Nuns are rare and so is corporal punishment but some habits are hard to change. wink.gif

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/RD-Sister-Chastity-Sexy-Nun/139710

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

November 26 2011, 3:31 AM 

Hi Prof.n,

You are indeed a true polymath! A man who on his specialist subject can have me reaching for a dictionary on every second word, who can use beta software without a care in the world, who knows more about Bob Dylan's music than Bob Dylan AND can who play computer games! I hesitate to tell you how many I scored. Let's just say it was about 4000 less than you!

I'm sad that the teacher doesn't actually carry out her threats though. A bit like a certain classroom thread in this estimable Forum. sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif Mind you, who knows what may happen when Renee sees the hundred and somethingth celebratory post. If I ever get it more or less the way I want it that is, it's been tricky what with American Way refusing to send me a picture of himself bent over in the brace position so that I could satisfy Renee's exact requirements! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 1 2011, 12:53 PM 

New Jersey is not the only place in need of a hired spanker. Paris apparel appeals to some while appalls others. Emporia is not a utopia so there is no euphoria.

William Allen White: "We need a town spanker for a number of fool matters"

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I put a tack on teacher's chair somebody snitched on me.

December 1 2011, 9:43 PM 

Follow first vertical column dow until headline Schoolboy Pranks. In light of my oft told tale of the compass in my sophomore year in high school this has special poignancy.

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Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

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Another_Lurker

I'm impressed!

December 1 2011, 10:28 PM 

Blimey, American Way, did you do that foreign language bit with all them there accent thingumybobs from scratch, or did you copy and paste it? wink.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 2 2011, 7:28 AM 

For those who may have forgotten my of told compass tale I have provided a link, perfectly understandable considering my prolificacy I have provided my first link. I was editor of my yearbook that will soon go digital. They are antiques with school videos replacing them. Were yearbooks popular in the UK. She was a dead ringer for British actress turned Hollywood B movie legend. Ida Lupino, c.f. Moonlightin if at all curious.

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This is an example of the fruits of a serendipitous searches on the words on compass and tack led me to the electric garter fraud that however off topic but found irresistible to not share. Such are our propensity that are peculiar to the human species that once electricity becomes of use its applications become widespread.

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Similarly X-Ray had a similar evolution as a rage fashion Wags the World last entry X-ray skirts can glare as just as daggerishly at a man whom he catches looking at her. Nothing is as gorgeous as Anna Berta Ludwig's hand.

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Apropos of course to an aficionado is Anna Bertha Ludwig's gorgeous hand another link I feel compelled to share. happy.gif

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American Way

Saddest Day in Hahira History

December 6 2011, 10:34 PM 

The saga of a double licking.

Principal quits and half of the faculty of Hahira High

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All 32 Faculty quit.

Mrs Dwight Maples, seven months pregnant, asked either to go on maternity leave or resign after a thirty whack paddling.

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Paddling charge dropped.

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Class resumed after 150 of the 600 students chanted: "We want our teachers back." Mrs Dwight Maples, seven months pregnant, asked either to go on maternity leave or resign after a thirty whack paddling.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 9 2011, 5:52 AM 

Beaver in trouble.

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Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 9 2011, 9:45 PM 

Hi American Way,

A great cartoon, a most excellent find. I trust that you are obtaining a large copy to display. I wonder what colour the Teacher's hair would have been had the illustration been in colour?

Doubtless if contacted the artist would do you a special edition with a Sister Of No Mercy instead! wink.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 9 2011, 9:56 PM 

A while back, see please miniskirted nun, I tried to obtain permission from Cartoon Stock but I did not feel comfortable putting my credit card information out there. What a wonderful offer!!! Thanks. American Way


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 13 2011, 8:34 PM 

The sickening sick inducing Mrs. Sickles. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif I wonder how many of these bare back whippings were upon the bathing suit areas but proprieties dictated not saying it. Just a thought. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

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Another_Lurker

In defence of Mrs Sickles!

December 13 2011, 9:50 PM 

Hi American Way,

The June 2, 1899 article in the 'Weekly Press', Adrian, Michigan that you link above seems to disagree with you about Mrs Sickles, indicating as it does that it believes she ran the Industrial Home in an exemplary fashion and was being stitched up by dirty deeds on the State Legislature Committee investigating events there.

You must remember that this was 112 years ago, and beatings with 'a big trunk strap' or a half inch diameter rubber hose were all part of life's rich tapestry for naughty girls who fell foul of their community. And the records indicated that Mrs Sickles only beat 30 girls in the 8 years she ran the home, during which time over 1000 girls passed through her hands. Verily, the Industrial Home was a bed of roses by the standards of the age!

And on another topic entirely, noting that you had misunderstood my comment above regarding your getting a personalised copy of the 'gnawed desk' cartoon (I'd meant from the original artist) I did get out my electronic pencil and went to work. Naturally I couldn't publish the result here, that would be very naughty, so I tried to forward it to what I thought was your email address. Sadly it bounced. sad.gif We'll have to see what we can do for the forthcoming 400 post event in this thread! happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 13 2011, 10:04 PM 

I just relayed the humor of Mrs. Sickles, sicken and sick and was making no judgment upon her. I am honored and welcome your celebratory post.


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 28 2011, 6:18 AM 

Willie was no fool.

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Image previously posted of finding a switch.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

December 29 2011, 12:52 AM 

The Pleasantville Military Institute story that appeared under the padding thread is now transferred to this thread. Why? Because I thought a story like this invited corroboration accounts. Alas, now have occurred. Collateral irrelevant but amusing findings I feel are worth sharing: it may give you a taste of 19th century Americana. Pleasantville is a quiet prosperous village in Westchester County, New York near the hamlet Chappaqua, where the Clintons now reside. Wish that all the newspapers were as well archived and made available as the New York Times!!! With a small town stories develop from person to person so anecdotes are the subject of the news found fit to print in a paper as large as the NYT. Such is the case found in the three stories that follow the Pleasantville Explosion story.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 2 2012, 12:45 AM 

Laugh to start the new year off right. I love the expressions. A lot of red heads. happy.gif

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http://www.cardcow.com/156507/punishment-schools-education/

"Now you clearly understand the reason why Im going to cane your?" "Yes sir, it's because you're a heavy weight and I'm only a bantam."

 
 
American Way

Castor Surealis

January 8 2012, 1:42 AM 

I'm more than just a pretty pelt. Scroll down and look for yellow highlight. If you need an aspirin don't come any closer. sad.gif

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Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 8 2012, 7:55 AM 

Hi American Way,

Unpleasant stuff indeed, but I'm sure you were familiar with the many mythical tales of beavers biting off their own testicles and throwing them at hunters to stop their pursuit and escape being killed. How the beavers managed the throwing operation is not usually specified.

What worries me is who on earth first thought "I've got a bit of a headache, I'll nibble a beaver testicle". I mean, chewing a sprig of willow you can understand, but beaver testicles! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

 
 
American Way

Baseball caps

January 8 2012, 5:38 PM 

Student handbooks with dress codes can be a treasure to peruse for comic relief. I happened upon this.

Baseball caps must be worn forward.

However, having Google that sentence I found a daring school allowing them to be worn forward or backward. Where are they going to draw the line. happy.gif Sideways?

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So no matter how you choose to wear your baseball cap, wear it proudly. Wear it wisely. But most of all, wear it because you are wearing the (fourth) most American hat of all.

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Last link, perhaps the funniest of them all from sample handbook Everman Junior High School.

Sage advice to twelve-year-olds or certainly a lesson to learn and for this estimable Forum of late. In my week absence there was a lot of squabbles.

Use your lifeskills and lifelong guidelines to problem solve and learn to disagree without being disagreeable.


 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Baseball caps

January 8 2012, 8:53 PM 

Hi American Way,

My tame baseball cap expert, possessor of a vast collection, including (he says) some quite rare ones, tells me that in the UK you can safely make the following judgements about a man from the way he wears his baseball cap:
  • If he wears it with the peak backwards he's a yob.

  • If he wears it with the peak forwards but unbent he's an oick1.
I wouldn't know myself. Just as I've never owned a pair of jeans, I've never owned a baseball cap.

Those 'lifeskills and lifelong guidelines' and squabbles in your absence:

Hmm, when I was at school they taught you the three R's and whatever specialist subjects you chose, and that was it. Definitely no life skills, conflict avoidance, temper management and all that claptrap. If you showed signs of problems in any of those areas they just whacked you - very hard! Of course I never got whacked, which probably accounts for a lot of my problems in later life. See, I told you school CP was a good thing! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

1Informal English for an outsider, 'not one of us', an uncouth or obnoxious person.

 
 
American Way

Hats Off to Another_Loiker

January 8 2012, 9:24 PM 

Another_Loiker. Not to irk you but 1958? Are you dating yourself? Or do you have no other option? wink.gif

http://www.crazyoik.co.uk/introduction.htm

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 8 2012, 9:33 PM 

By last link in my penultimate post I was referring to Questions You Would Like To Ask....... thread but I'll repeat it here so you will understand the baseball cap reference from the student handbook sample.

http://texas.webschoolpro.com/TX220904041/studenthandbook.html

 
 
American Way

Are London Boys Better Behaved than North of England & Scotland?

January 11 2012, 2:52 AM 

A good way to determine behavior? Checking the supplies of canes. Or is it? Could the London City Council be spoiling them? Would north of England erses wear out more canes verses London or Scotland. I am staying out of this one. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

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American Way

The Whipping Schoolmaster Cure For His Lumbago

January 11 2012, 5:25 AM 

SCHOOL CHASTISEMENT.

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(Truth) The expediency of whipping girls is an old subject for the Times to discuss in its columns. The great advocate for whipping children was Solomon, and, to judge by Rehoboam, it proved a dismal failure. I am opposed to giving schoolmasters the right to inflict corporal punishment, because many of them are totally unfitted to be entrusted with such powers. The punishment would everywhere differ for the same offense, for whilst one schoolmaster would whip hard, another would whip soft. Moreover, one might be a man with good temper and another with a bad temper, and one might flog where the other would chide. The whole thing is brutalizing, and probably does more harm than good to the recipient.

I was at a private school. The master was an unmitigated ruffian. If we did anything wrong during school hours, we were told by an usher to stand on a form. The master suffered from lumbago. Periodically he used to crawl into the room on all fours, rear up when he came close to a boy standing on a form, and proceed to beat him savagely with a cane. I believe that he thought the exercise was good for his lumbago. Then I went to Eton. Dr. Hawtry was the Head-master. He was an amiable and kindly man, and a fine gentleman. He probably flogged about twenty boys every day on an average. He did it with exquisite politeness, and except on rare occasions the whole thing was a farce. Four cuts were the ordinary application, and ten cuts were never exceeded. The proceedings took place in public, and any boy who had a taste for the thing might be a spectator. If the victim flinched, there was a howl of execration. Far from objecting to this, the doctor approved of it. I remember once that a boy fell on his knees and implored him to spare him. I shall not condescend to flog you, but I leave you to your young friends," said the Doctor. I happened to be one of the young friends, and I remember aiding in kicking the boy round the quadrangle for about half-an hour.


 
 
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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 14 2012, 7:04 PM 

19th Century American Way to stop one form of bullying in a one room schoolhouse. It encourages closure. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif I wouldn't miss a day of school if girls would be allowed to settle their disputes in said manner. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

Fighting boys, after being separated, were given a switch or rod and told to lay on and cut jackets which meant they flogged each other and if they didnt hit hard enough the teacher gave a lashing to them.

Knightland Country School Nebraska 1890's

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Another_Lurker

Shock, horror revelation by American Way!

January 15 2012, 12:18 AM 

Hi American Way,

You said above of the rather ingenious scheme adopted by some 19th century rural schoolteachers in the USA whereby two fighting boys were punished by being required to beat each other hard with switches or birch rods:

I wouldn't miss a day of school if girls would be allowed to settle their disputes in said manner. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

Now I might expect a remark like that from a CP dilettante like me. But from a serious student of the subject such as yourself, and a man who suffered at the hands of the Sisters Of No Mercy to boot! I am surprised, nay make that shocked, but no, on second thoughts only scandalised will suffice! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

A very interesting read that text from Scribd in your second link, though with far too many spelling mistakes which would probably have got the writer a taste of one of the punishments being discussed if presented at the time!

I am amused to note that 'Prairie Country School' in your first link, clearly a recreation of a 19th century prairie school for modern children, has probably opted out of imposing any CP, (mock of course) on 'misbehaving' children from school parties as it says:

Some of the forms of discipline used in the Prairie Country School, if needed, will be writing sentences on the board, sitting in the corner or memorizing a passage to recite to the class.
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Some school recreation sites are a little more realistic, though goodness knows what modern children make of it! I recall a very amusing picture from one such site which showed a little girl who was bending over with obvious complete aplomb for a tap (at least, I hope was only a tap) of the cane from the 'teacher' while the similarly aged little lad waiting his turn looked extremely nervous and more than a little dubious about the proceedings!

And a new school punishment! I have heard of such ingenious old time classroom punishments as finger stocks and backboards, here, here and here. Indeed, Doctor Dominum mentions in this post that one of his Primary School teachers, trained in the Victorian era, possessed a set of finger stocks and sometimes threatened children that she'd use them. But 'the peg' mentioned in your above links, where children had to stand on tiptoe suspended by their hair! That's a new one on me I have to confess! Has anybody else come across it?

 
 
American Way

Old School Punishment 1895

January 15 2012, 2:23 AM 

I love these illustrations from so long ago. I particularly as you to take note of the birch and the block.

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Two Smacks Max Because the Bibile Tells Me so.

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 15 2012, 9:40 PM 

Artist: J Lawrence Lind generated quite a coincidence for an iconic image of Ronald Reagan for what would the odds be that two superb (IMHO) illustrators do such similar vintage spanking scene? This just discovered by me two years after my January 10, 2010 after that artist: Lettick. Truth is often stranger than fantasy. Lind also drew IMHO a lesser painting of a schoolroom switching scene more pertinent to this estimable Forum found under Instruments of Correction. It's very domestic when one thinks of the mother spanking a grown daughter with pendants hanging (Bondage & Discipline Community College? wink.gif

Lettick Reagan & National Lampoon

http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19860707,00.html

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http://awesomebmovies.com/2011/06/the-movie-that-saved-ronald-reagans-life/reagan/

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American Way

Sorry about site link

January 15 2012, 9:46 PM 

Larry 1951. Didn't have time to read under Instrument of Correction that I could not stop the link under the last click. You work so hard and I'm sorry to have made your job even more difficult. Pimp and host doesn't sound very wholesome. I usually find sites to link to that won't prove so prpblematic.

 
 
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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 16 2012, 8:31 AM 

This was the coincidence with Lettick and J Lawrence Lind doing both Reagan and art of a different category. The switching scene and the maternal scene were not found on linkable sites. This again is a portal site that can lead to troublesome ones. It is Spank Statement and may or may nor be suitable for this network 54 Forum. It is the penultimate drawing and does not have as much bearings as the schoolmarm switching in a classroom scene that I cannot find under a suitable link. Like the Chicago Spanking Review it may be considered a borderline call. Abel and Haron have historical materials and first referenced in 2006 in first link. Forgive me for causing more trouble for pushing limits. Nothing ventured. Nothing gained.

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19th Century Feline Misdemeanors

January 19 2012, 5:30 PM 

Beware Cats and Mats

Punishment for feline misdemeanors: corporal punishment (whipped, licked, switched, slapped, smacked hit, kicked and shook.) Beggars the question: Feline felonies? Little girls are not very kind.

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Will corporeal punishment cure a drink habit?

January 21 2012, 11:10 PM 

Will corporeal punishment cure a drink habit? Dorothy Dix opines. But what if she likes to be spanked?

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Will it get to the seat of the trouble?

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 22 2012, 12:04 PM 

American Way:
"But what if she likes to be spanked? "

This situation reminds me of a true account by Halfpenny - 'Getting caned deliberately' HERE
She writes: "To start with, hearing the cane and imagining what was happening was enough for me - and imagining myself in that situation later. But over time, over six or seven months, I suppose, I began to want more. I wanted to feel it, I wanted to be punished, physically punished myself."

........but the last line of the story says:
"But I didn't think I'd deliberately get myself caned again."

Penny discovered that there was a difference between reality and fantasy so, regarding the article in the Daily Chronicle, although the photographer's model obviously wants to be spanked it does not mean that she will automatically enjoy it. It is definitely worth trying and if she enjoys being spanked then the discipline should be increased in severity by using other more severe implements and she may find that it can be really painful and an effective deterrent for inappropriate behaviour just as many boys and girls have found at school.
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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 22 2012, 2:51 PM 

In many ways Dorothy Dix was way ahead of her times. She lived to 90 and wrote to the very end. Search Dorothy Dix for other entries. Alas, I had advice to a masochists at the age of 89 that showed a real compassion but it escaped me.

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Spanking is a new technique in love-making for which we have as yet no rules

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October 3, 1944

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 22 2012, 7:34 PM 

I still have not found her advice at 89. She basically said that she would not discourage between a wife who enjoys being spanked. It was a new are of lovemaking where there has yet to be rules.

My favorite Dorothy Dix Columns. Make sure you read down to Caroline's letter. Dix was not afraid to call a spade a spade when it came to seeing through manipulative women.

Hydraulic pressure is one of the great forces of nature, and it is never more devastating than when it takes the form of tears in a woman's eyes.

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Man spanks fiance. Mark is no Casper Milquietoasts. Bravo to the Marks of this world who refuse to be conquered by the wiles of a headstrong sweetheart.

Let's not be too quick in dismissing a woman that people turned to in large numbers and through 4 decades. Today's women, in their more honest moments, would see more than a kernel of truth in her often perspicacious advice. This was one of her last column.

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Who can question a 90 year old sage? This was one of her last column. N.B. Beaver Valley.

Another_Lurker Renee has requested a milestone posting. I wouldn't keep putting it off. A word to the wise should be sufficient.

 
 
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No Monkey Business

January 25 2012, 7:06 PM 

1937 Mrs. Laura Elms Morris cruel to sixth grader, allegedly with baseball bat and poker.

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She claimed an 18 inch and 1/2 inch paddle.

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She admits the paddle was three feet long. Her story evolved.

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Photo of teacher with her 9-year-old.

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Photo of teacher at hearing surrounded by students

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1972. RIP

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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 30 2012, 2:56 AM 

Wild West was always characterized by right to bear arms. California is a lot tamer now in some ways. happy.gif I have included PDF so you can peruse the paper in situ.

January 24, 1898. Scroll down. Key words being Ernest Hammer and revolver.

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A good, powerful spanking machine is needed at the high school, that will start in each morning and polish off the whole school39. well laid on, to each one. The hoodlum proclivities of the last term have broken out again, and only the poor aim of a boy.

Ernest Hammer, with a revolver prevented a funeral or two among the student?. Hammer was going with a young lady of his class to a party Friday evening, when a number of boys of tho next lower class, masked and carrying ropes, waylaid them, with the intention of binding each one and leaving them to get assistance and escape as best they might.

Hammer, like many school boys, carries a revolver, and when the attack was made he drew his gun and fired two shots at his assailants, but whether or not he hit one of them is not known, as they fled precipitately, and Hammer and the young lady attended the party. An attempt was made to hush the matter up, but. as the boys are more generally arming to protect themselves, it is possible that there will be a few cases for the coroner yet.

January 25, 1898. PDF bottom left hand corner.

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Rivalry between the classes of 1900 and 1901 of the high school resulted in Ernest Hammer firing his revolver several times at a party of ten students who were attempting to base him last night. Young Hammer was escorting a young lady classmate to a social gathering, and was waylaid by the hazers, who sprang upon him from ambush and began to tie his arms and legs with ropes. The youth managed to free his arms and take a pistol from his pocket. The attacking party drew back at this, and Hammer fired several shots at the crowd, but hit 110 one. The girl secured the ropes and the couple proceeded to the party. The immediate cause of the trouble was a claps paper prepared by a member of IV>. which was stolen and read publicly before the 1900 class. The juniors believed Hammer to be the culprit, and intended to leave him bound on the streets fur several hours last night. The police were called in last year to suppress class troubles, and more "trouble is expected from this incident. At Hartland, Vt., a cat discovered a chimney fire and awakened her master and mistress by mewing at their bedside.

Follow Up February 11.

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"GUN PLAYS" BY BOYS

Gun plays are getting altogether too
numerous among school boys, with whom the force of example ls strong. At San Bernardino, a few days ago.
some high school boys tried to haze a schoolmate who was accompanying a young woman home from a reception. The boy carried a loaded revolver, habitually, it seems, and repulsed his young assailants with a fusillade of shots, none of which, fortunately, took effect. The lad was undoubtedly justified in defending himself; but it is appalling to think that the revolver habit has obtained a foothold among boys of his age. It was/ learned that a number of the high school boys are In the habit of carrying pistols. Now, here is where the force of example comes in. The San Bernardino Free Press of recent date says:
Since Ernest Hammer threw a halo of romance around the high school boys by putting a lot of them to flight with his gun, a bellicose spirit has been creeping into the primary grades. Yesterday a party of six boys of the Fourth street school attacked Roy Leeds and Dave Knowland with rocks, slingshots, oranges and clods. Dave borrowed Roy's air gun and took a shot at the fleeing six. He missed them, and Roy tried his marksmanship. Ho also missed them, but they fled. The six boys then had Roy and Dave arrested, and they were tried before the recorder this afternoon. They were discharged with a reprimand. Now, that sort of thing won't do, and It is high time for the parents, and, if necessary, the officers of the law, to take a hand. A few hours in jail would have a deterrent effect upon the youthful carriers of concealed weapons, although such a measure is a harsh one, to be used only as a last resort. If the practice is not stopped, it may yet become necessary for the teachers in the public schools to make a rule that all pupils shall "leave their guns at the office" before entering upon their studies each morning. There will be a tragedy sooner or later if something is not done.
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Another_Lurker

The Second Amendment

January 30 2012, 10:33 AM 

Hi American Way,

Hmm, young Mr Hammer clearly heeded the advice in the little verse often engraved on Mr Colt's products:

Be not afraid of any man, what ere may be his size.
If danger threatens call on me and I will equalise!

 
 
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Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

January 30 2012, 4:57 PM 

Another_Lurker: Drats, I was hoping for a memorable milestone post. American Way

 
 
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Amos Bronson Alcott Vicarious School Corporal Punishment

February 2 2012, 7:21 AM 

Record of Mr. Alcott's School by Elizabeth Palmer Peabody. This is going to hurt me than it hurts you.

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American Way

Burma Update and Unique Form of SCP? Bad teachers.

February 2 2012, 5:18 PM 

Aung San Suu Kyi deserves flogging like 'naughty child': Junta. June 12, 2008

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Burma in the news today.

Aung San Suu Kyi, "Naughty child".

http://youtu.be/QdiLvKP89yk

http://youtu.be/5snCbLCrqNg

A unique form of bodily torment and technically should this be categorized as school corporal punishment? IMHO it's a judgment call. happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif Bad teachers. Disgraceful. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

uscampaignforburmaSponsored this viral you tube.

http://youtu.be/xK8inPfHg_0

http://uscampaignforburma.org/

"Corporal Punishment" American Style. Teacher at car wash fund raiser. Bad Teacher Cameron Diaz.

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American Way

Link searching benefits.

February 2 2012, 6:38 PM 

Although my links often may seem inapplicable, one must bear in mind there are ancillary benefits or even if only tertiary. Here is an example. The story of the Nobel Peace prize winner suggestion by the Junta as deserving a flogging made it to the international media but I want read Mizzina. When you see the uniformity of how a story is told in the media you realize that information has been concealed for whatever reason. You don't know who made that call on what to include or what to omit. By getting closer to the source you find a sentence that you don't see in other outlets, but you don't know where it may have been reported until you extract a sentence (copy and paste) and find those word appear in only one source when you Google. That same idea could have been expressed in different words so one should not jump to hasty conclusions, however if you go to enough sites and see an omission it bears further scrutiny. Let's not argue the merits of the argument but be cognizant of how our legal system has a bearing on how the readers over there perceive it. If it were my call I would have included this. Here is the sentence.

The junta's justification of the detention of Aung San Suu Kyi for the sixth consecutive year is in conformity with the law and it compared its law with anti-terror laws applied in countries including the United States and Britain.


 
 
KK

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 2 2012, 7:12 PM 

American Way is referring to the Mizzima News Agency Specialising in Burma-Related News. Run by Burmese exiles.

News has long been shared via organizations such Associated Press and Reuters. There is nothing wrong with this. Indeed, it is necessary and desirable provided only the source of the news item is made clear. A base report may be edited or shortened or given a different headline in different publications. The importance of the headline should not be overlooked. It can greatly colour our interpretation of everything underneath.

People have long tried to manage and control news. This needs to be resisted. In recent times news organizations, under financial pressure, have dispensed with their more skilled and experienced reporters and required more output from inexperienced juniors. Many of the staff who lost their jobs work now for those who wish to manage and control news. This trend has been partially countered by the ease with which individuals can post unedited unverified "news" on the Internet.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 4 2012, 6:29 AM 

417 Posts!!

My very esteemed fellow contributor American Way works hard for this estimable Forum and this excellent thread originated by him has now reached 417 posts. There should have been celebratory posts at 100 and 300 posts, but for various reasons they were missed. There was a 200th post celebration post, but it didn't contain what American Way most desired (of which more anon). I hope very much that American Way will enjoy this rather late tribute to 400 posts.

American Way had his early education from the Sisters of Mercy. These formidable ladies, often referred to as the Sisters Of No Mercy for reasons obvious to those encountering them in a classroom context, made an indelible impression on the young American Way, who was nicknamed Beaver at school, doubtless for a temporary dental indisposition. Even now he remembers some of the horrors to which he and his classmates were subjected at school by the apparently ruthless ladies set in authority over them.

Some time ago American Way came across the new trendy mini-skirted nun outfits which are everywhere on the web for fancy dress purposes. Somehow this seemed to lay the demons from his school days and enable him to come to terms with the youthful atrocities inflicted on him by the rather more sternly clad Sisters Of No Mercy.

Very reasonably here way back in January 2010 he requested mini-skirted nuns for the 100th post celebration in this thread. To my shame as already noted he never got the 100th post celebration, let alone the mini-skirted nuns! They were again missed for the 200th post, which did happen, and for the 300th post, which didn't!

American Way is a patient man and knows that good things (well, I hope they're good happy.gif) eventually come to those who wait long enough. Nothing loath, as the 400th post loomed he once again requested the mini-skirted nuns here. Though sometimes portrayed as a cyber bullying, racially abusing monster, Another_Lurker is actually a kindly chap at heart and I couldn't possibly disappoint such a key member of the team for a fourth time!

So here, without further ado, are scenes from American Way's school days. Not as they actually were, but as he might just possibly wish they had been! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif As this thread is already rather over-width for many viewers I make no apology for one of the pictures being a little wider than is usually advisable. It's still narrower than the existing 'Reply' column!

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American Way's fate is sealed!

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And the Sisters Of No Mercy take their revenge!

So there we have it. As is well know corporal punishment absolves all sins. Whether imaginary corporal punishment will accomplish that for American Way remains to be seen! happy.gif

Oh BTW American Way, it doesn't fit in this series but you might also like to have a look here.

And so it remains only to say to everyone:

Keep Posting!

 
 
Alan Turing

Benediction

February 4 2012, 8:10 AM 

I should be grateful if Another_Lurker would quote for us the incantation which the leftmost Sister is about to recite. happy.gif

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Benediction

February 4 2012, 8:40 AM 

Hi Alan Turing,

Come, come, can there be any doubt in the matter! Speech bubbles didn't fit very well so it's quite clearly set out for you at the bottom of the picture! To both of which offences American Way has quite openly confessed in this estimable Forum. And the punishment pronounced by the Senior Sister seems quite reasonable to me! There'll be people fighting to take the juvenile American Way's place - Willy for starters after his recent pronouncement here in Renee's thread! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

 
 
Alan Turing

Re: Benediction

February 4 2012, 10:36 AM 

I think it must be:

For what you are about to receive, may the Lord make you truly thankful.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Benediction

February 4 2012, 11:43 AM 

Yes, well, that as well of course! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 4 2012, 1:14 PM 

Another_Lurker. Thanks. It was well worth waiting for. One fine point. The brace position you put me in is dangerous. You don't have to be a professor to know that. Ask any mountain climber? I could fall into that wall and it would put my two front teeth in jeopardy.


 
 

Another_Lurker

That brace position!

February 4 2012, 2:10 PM 

Hi American Way,

I'm glad you like the pictures. Unfortunately one can never be sure about these things, but at least you'd dropped some pretty broad hints! As regards the brace position, my sentiments exactly when I first heard of it. But apparently unless you are physically exhausted you won't fall forward. And you are much safer because it is almost impossible for you to move a hand backwards into the danger zone without the person wielding the paddle (or yardstick) detecting the movement and aborting the stroke in time.

Our very esteemed fellow contributor Prof.n, who has personal experience of being on the receiving end in this posture assures us that this is so. Our also very esteemed fellow contributor Renee, who occasionally has to administer the paddle, chooses the brace position for other than very young children because she believes that it is safer. Who am I to argue with the experts, totally unversed in these matters that I am.

If you did fall forward I think you'd be more likely to bang the top of your head than impact the facial area. I think you'd have to have a very flexible neck to look comfortably at anything but the floor when in that position, and if you tipped forward your face would be out of harm's way.

But in any event it's a total fiction, (at least I assume it is - is there something you haven't told us about happy.gif) so I shouldn't worry too much! You mention mountain climbers, and if you wish I could give you a climbing helmet in the picture! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 4 2012, 6:10 PM 

I would venture to say the hand on knees or chair is the most common is a tradition honored position. Say assume the position and you can see what I mean. Broken tailbones will occur in any position without due caution. Because when college students, later to become teachers, are told to assume the position in the manner shown below. Students for years were struck on the palms of the hands however horrified prof n may seem with few life long injury as pointed out in another thread and not be me. I was trying to picture Renee in a habit but the heels have to go. You have been told about this Another_Lurker. Try not to make her remind you. Heels are your fantasy. BTW. Somewhere in the website Jeff Charles lets readers know that Andrea is looking for a modeling job. Whatever happened to his book? He is not the anti-CP zealots persuasive advocate.

http://www.videosurf.com/video/i-bet-you-will-50710577

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Another_Lurker

That brace position yet again!

February 4 2012, 10:07 PM 

Hi American Way,

I certainly don't dispute your observations regarding position. The graphic is completely modular. If you wish to forward me a sideways on shot in your preferred posture it can readily be substituted, complete anonymity assured! No? Ah well, I thought probably not! sad.gif

You say:

Somewhere in the website Jeff Charles lets readers know that Andrea is looking for a modeling job.

Hmm, I take your point. Or at least I think I do! wink.gif Andrea would indeed fit the bill (or rather the graphic) very nicely, but surely there'd be some gender confusion! happy.gif

And you also say ....... No, on second thoughts I won't quote you, I'm definitely not going there! happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 4 2012, 11:00 PM 


 
 
American Way

Math Anxiety for Girls 1889

February 11 2012, 5:24 PM 

Resident Magistrate it appeared that a schoolmaster frequently struck the pupils, and even female pupils, on the head with a treatise on arithmetic.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 12 2012, 6:55 PM 

Ladies before gentlemen. Hitting heads of girls with arithmetic treatise should be verboten IMHO. It's hard enough for them to hurdle their gender deficiencies as it was; as it is; now and will be forever. I don't buy into this nature versus nurture feminists propaganda for it always to their betterment and never to the detriment. as a gender. Enough with this ivory tower politically correct nonsense. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

Dunedin 1896.

Thrashing of Girls in School.

At a meeting of the Education Board, strong exception was taken by|members to the thrashing of girls before boys, and striking children about the head and it was resolved to frame a new regulation more stringent than the preset one.

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Declan

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 14 2012, 3:11 PM 

Not sure where to post this but never mind.

Crossword clue in today's Times.

Looking embarrassed after faux pas at gym, wearing unsuitable footwear ( 9 letters)

No prizes for the winner apart from a guided tour of Croydon

 
 
Declan

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 16 2012, 3:08 AM 

The answer is slippered.

Faux pas - slip. Gym - PE and embarrassed -Red

No tours of Croydon or Bulwell for anyone.

 
 

Another_Lurker

Grave omission from competition rules!

February 16 2012, 9:01 PM 

Hi Declan,

That's not fair you know! If you'd said there was a tour of Bulwell on offer I'd have entered! sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif Or should that be happy.gifwink.gifhappy.gif

 
 
Declan

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 16 2012, 10:55 PM 

Hi Al or All.

Someone on another site referred to a particular hairstyle as a "Croydon facelift". That hairstyle worn by lowlife girls who have their hair tightly worn back in a bun creating a type of facelift. I pointed out that each region has its own version, such as Nottingham has Bulwell and Birrmingham has the Tipton Facelift.

I don't know if you saw on the news that Croydon is advertising guided tours of the place in an effort to improve its image. I very much enjoyed working there in the 80s and 90s however

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 18 2012, 7:06 PM 

Happy Birthday 44. Molly Ringwald. Think of Renee as much younger and better looking but happily married. sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2012/02/18/molly-ringwald-birthday-2/


 
 
American Way

Percy Fitch Rice. Another Thomas Edison?

February 25 2012, 12:52 AM 

Early inventor of spanking machine and windshield wipers for spectacles was Percy Fitch Rice zaniest inventions. I wonder if it was ever used. Despite becoming a drunkard who was renown for giving temperance speeches, he continued to be a successful.

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http://www.tustinhistory.com/articles/rice-family.htm

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 26 2012, 11:46 PM 

My apologies to Willy having said that it was a disservice to mock the word gang that I myself counseled against. My apologies to Renee for bringing her into this thread. My apologies to the Leader of the Pack for publishing a post war picture of him.
Jenny, KK and A_L. Not to be confused with Renee, prof n and A_L.

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Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 27 2012, 1:06 AM 

Hi American Way,

To show there are no hard feelings despite your chucking everything I've ever done for you in my face and saying all those nasty things about me over in the thread we're not allowed to mention or link [Link, who said link? Could there be a link around here somewhere?] I'll still respond to your posts - well some of the time anyway!

I'm afraid that Prof.n is going to have to be the cove with the big hair and the romantic look 'cos I haven't had curls like that since I was 4, and mine were blonde. That leaves me as the little lad in the bow tie and cummerbund. That's good, because although he's about the right age for the visit to the Conference Room that Renee was threatening a day or so ago, even the meanest Assistant Principal isn't going to paddle someone who's kissed her hand so charmingly.

But wait! This is a fraud! That's not Renee! You've deliberately led me into a trap to get me into trouble! If I do get paddled I shall never speak to you again, ever! So there! happy.gif

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

February 27 2012, 1:37 AM 

The picture was left to right and KK and prof n were the Tony Blair wannabes. wink.gif


 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 8 2012, 12:30 AM 

A youtube presentation as a prelude to an adult site. Lady Jane Academy. She needs to be paddled for bad spelling happy.gif

http://youtu.be/bYQ519bjxqA

 
 

Another_Lurker

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 9 2012, 9:38 AM 

Hi American Way,

Hmmm, that's not a 'prelude to an adult site', its a plug for a location someone has built in a thing called 'Second Life', a sort of computer game where people pay real money for scripts which enable their avatars to visit such locations (the diversity is apparently huge) and enable them to perform actions on their own (or others') avatars, like those we see in the 'video', which is merely a video grab of a scene enacted in Second Life.

Curiously, although I see lots of people with computers, and although Second Life is said to be very popular, I have never encountered anyone who visits it. Do we have any users here please?

 
 
American Way

Gallantry

March 13 2012, 4:45 AM 

Feminists cringe. Gallantry at its best. On the right hand column look to the middle of the page and be sure to scroll to the following page.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/printArticlePdf/57378516/3?print=n

 
 
American Way

1985 Committee Against Female Corporal Punishment

March 16 2012, 6:55 PM 

A tip of the proverbial hat is in order for Ron Garrison, a knight errant 27 years later the battle goes on. The federal government is always imposing their will on local townships and school boards.

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http://newspaperarchive.com/kokomo-tribune/1985-11-07/page-27

Stop barbaric swats student HOBART Ind AP The Hobart Township School Board has been asked by a student to stop the barbaric practice of swatting female students Ron Garrison president of a Committee Against Female Corporal Punishment acknowledges he knows of no female who has been swatted But he presented the board with a petition containing 287 signatures asking for the swat stance at its Tuesday night meeting Im asking that this barbaric practice Garrison said He said that the school system doesn't have to use corporal punishment even though state law permits it The board took Garrisons request under advisement The senior quoted a 1972 report from the National Education Association stating some of the largest school systems in the country have banished corporal punishment He said male students generally treat swats as a joke and when swats were administered mostly for kissing girls in the the students were doing the same thing a few minutes Garrison asked the board to consider two medical facts he said were obtained from doctors and nurses If a young lady is up to two months pregnant this swats could injure both of them and if she is near or on her monthly cycle it could cause internal damage he said Garrison also asked the board that if a resolution banning female corporal punishment warrant adopted swats be administered by a female teacher Garrison said the majority of the signatures on the petition were those of students but 17 parents and the New Chicago police chief signed it Donald Tippet River Forest High School principal said the swatting isn't an issue We have had the same policy for many years He doesn't understand although I've tried to explain to him that the federal law doesn't permit a policy that discriminates against either of the Hoosier schools may be affected.



 
 
American Way

Hee Haw. Only in America

March 17 2012, 4:01 PM 

If anybody thinks that school corporal punishment for "small matters" or not displaying them in classrooms should disabuse themselves of that notion that it is a thing of the past. Bull rider Cole Long, pictured in third link, was spared one indignity. He was not hoisted by his own petard for others in the school wood shop obliged. The penultimate link shows the bull rider in action. The last link is more for edification the UK and not solely for titillation. Don't be afraid to click it is not offensive IMHO unless you're prude. wink.gif

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http://youtu.be/e7qIroMCsmI

http://youtu.be/gh3G8R5K4_8

 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

March 19 2012, 2:05 AM 

Compensations for school chastisements are nothing new. I may have posted this before but the UK references may arouse interests that may have escaped the readers of our estimable Forum's attention.

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American Way

Love in Verona

March 21 2012, 12:26 PM 

The journalists had a field day for these headlines.

Spanked By Professor Bobo, 23 Students 'Love Him Still'

Students Sore But Not At Him.

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Different strokes for different folks. The name CC Bobo is hilarious by itself. He paddles those who demonstrate FOR his staying as a paddling principal. This reminds me of St Augustine in New Orleans. A girl who bends over is a taboo in 1951. What if it were a female paddler?

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American Way

Australian Love and Divorce 1946 Style.

April 1 2012, 7:01 AM 

Taken from Age of Innocence to Lighter Side for perhaps more relevance and text edited for convenience sake. Dorothy Lamour is a collateral benefit.

The boys at war had to have some outlet for their fierce love.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/75943670

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Suggested A Roster Of Weekly Spankings As Gestures Of 'Love'.

In a pleasant, good-natured way, as if he were suggesting that he would like to buy her a new hat or a fur coat, an RAAF Flight-Sergeant wrote home to his wife from the Middle East and asked her for co-operation when he introduced spanking into the marriage on his return 'as an expression of love'. But Mrs. Gloria Constance Robinson was not impressed. She told a divorce judge that her husband's letters from overseas were so revolting that she considered herself entitled to consider the matrimonial relationship ended.

Mrs. Robinson had, in fact, fallen for a chappie named John Edtford White and a child had been born. But her relations with White had not commenced until hubby Lord Norman Robinson had written to her saying that he had committed misconduct with a girl he had 'picked tip' and had a disease. The letter from Robinson with the 'love by spanking' theme ran: As you know, dear, married couples* often finish up in the Divorce Court through spanking, and in all these oases, dear, I think it's because the female does not understand the male. She fails to see spanking as an expression of love . . .

Spanking is introduced info a marriage to terminate an argument, and the husband experiences great heights of exquisite delight and finds an outlet and gives expression to his fierce love for his wife. The wife (being her first spanking probably since she was a child) experiences only the indignity of it and the physical pain. But the husband has now found an outlet for his fierce love for his wife (a love which is present in every man for his woman, but which often lies dormant, sometimes throughout a man's life for lack of an outlet or means of expression), and so he makes mountains out of molehills out of every little tiff or difference of opinion he has with his wife in order to obtain an excuse to spank her, with the result that the wife finds herself being spanked for every little thing he says or does . . . The husband finds he has to spank her harder and longer to get the required results.

This fierce love is drained through so constant an outlet . . . and the husband has to spank his wife for probably 10 or more minutes before ho begins to feel any reaction. The poor wife, who loves her husband, will, obviously, stand so much, but eventually she is in such a state physically that she can continue no longer and she applies for a divorce and leaves her husband. Darling, if you or any woman could experience the exquisite delight a husband gets from spanking his wife you would submit as often as you were physically capable. Complete harmony, dear, could be obtained, I think, by regulating the spankings to a minimum of about one per week ... if love required, twice weekly ... In our case, dear, as I said in the other letter, I would be fully prepared, should you feel the inclination, to bend over your knee, or lie face downward. Mrs. Robinson got her decree.



 
 
American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 5 2012, 7:35 PM 

Spanking? Nose-Bleed? 1905 were the days of the scientific spanking. Oddly, it is about this time that spanking machines and stories about both scholastic and domestic corporal punishment abound. A few years before and a few years after not so much. It might just be a product of digital newspapers.

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American Way

Magistrate Higginbotham of prior posting

April 5 2012, 8:26 PM 

Previous posting I said 1905 when it should have been in 1906. The magistrate was the subject of scrutiny in 1910 and was speedily but discreetly dealt with.

September 7, 1910

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October 6, 1910

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October 28, 1910

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 10 2012, 9:19 PM 

Here is my take. The male journalists were not in the least surprise that spanking was terribly erotic. Their choice of words in telling the story points to the power of the men in the newsroom. 1971 marked the end of the age of innocence.

Spanking Can Make You Red On Both Ends.

Girls Collect For Spanking Research - in the End.

Spanking researcher Beats Rap.

Scientific Spanker a Fraud.

Spanking OK Until Coeds' Wallets Hurt. Northwestern University police Wednesday stamped "the end" on a 60-page report on the great coed spanking caper.

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The story went viral all the way from Canada to Alaska. in spite of the twenty spank penalty for telling anyone referred to below..

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This Montclair State University endured three hard swats in 2008 with a fraternity-type paddle for prize money. She has to say "Thank you, may I have another" after each swat. Bing Video Search I Bet You Will Paddle and you will find it. The August 1, 2009 link is down. 20 dollars a swat is not bad by inflation standard.

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American Way

Rod in Pickle

April 15 2012, 9:21 AM 

Whipped good twin thrice.

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Flog twins to get the right one.

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American Way

St Patrick's Day Caper

April 15 2012, 7:50 PM 

Miss Knox's surprise.

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 16 2012, 12:36 PM 

This satire site caught my eye because of its use of Our Lady of Corporal Punishment and Sister Mary Elephant. How dare they. I said it first. I should have coined that back in the sixties.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s1i50588

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American Way

Re: Corporal Punisment Lighter Side

April 30 2012, 8:25 PM 

The Korean dramas make light of corporal punishment. One of the ways to deal with corporal punishment is to think of something pleasant. This girl was being punished for smoking but just a concerned look from her boyfriend made all the difference in the world. Corporal punishment as it has been caught in real life is not all that funny. I wonder if paddlings were recorded there would be less abuse, however infrequent some claim.

Korean SCP smile.

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In this gif someone has a sense of humor about the ubiquitious cell phones.

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