Wash Out Rates etc.

It was nice to see you back Bob,

I feel that I missed out on something special during the few training sessions I attended with my Dobermann Apollo at your club during the time that you were away from the sport. Good to see you back and nice job on the seminar.

How long does it take for you to evaluate a dog and decide whether or not this dog can make the MR III grade?

What is the wash out Rate for dogs that want to make the MR III grade in Mondio assuming that people are not just hanging in to gain training experience and are serious about getting there?

What is the ratio compared to Police Department wash out rates?

What experience do you have with PSD dogs? How many?, How Long? What training certs were followed?

What is the exact reason that you are working with Mals now as opposed to GSDS's?

How many dogs have you titled in Mondio Ring?

How long have you been training Mondio Ring?

How long have you been Training dogs?

Do you still breed GSD's? Whatever breed you are breeding currently, are you going to use Mondio Ring as the breeding tool by which your stock will be gaged?

Do you use the Agitation muzzle in any way to enhance the fight drive and teach control more quickly in training?

If so many Dobermann's were in fact reaching 100 + lbs aren't these heavier dogs moving away from being bred for working ability? What advantage would a hundred pound Dobermann have over an 88 pound Dobermann? What disadvantages? Shouldn't this be a real consideration by anyone seriously breeding working dogs of any breed?

MOST not ALL Schutzhund dogs would never even come close to making it as a PSD which is a known fact by any sane working dog person, it seesm to me that Mondio Ring would be much different in that it has most of the requirements met that are in the PSD certs. I personally believe it would be easy to switch the dog over to PSD work with a few minor adjustments, what are your thoughts on this?

In private conversations I've had with your club members when I was there, there was a clear understanding that many Sch dogs would never be able to make the Mondio Ring cut, what is the biggest difference? Is the ability to react to different situations with a clear head and encounter new "things"?

Some Schutzhund dogs have a hard time with different training fields, new helpers etc. We made sure we trained our SAR dogs for new scenarios and territories all of the time to ensure that the dogs were prepared and that they could handle it? Is this a major part of Mondio Ring?

With this type "of training for the unexpected" how much extra stress does it put on the dog?

From my own experience I understand that this is a big part of PSD training and I believe that this would be a huge seperating factor that would really determine the level of courage and stability of nerves in a dog cut out for PSD work or any sport that requires this type of dog such as Campaign? What are your thoughts on this?

Jason and others suggest that the Police does a poor job in all areas of their endevours, and has heard the same about PSD's in competetive sport. Is this true? What would be the reason for this if in fact it were true?

Finally, with all of the focus on new situations, clear heads and control work wouldn't a dog with high fight drive that is actually tested to this degree be a much more stable dog that could be trusted in all areas including living with a family?


With best regards,




Leander