Hi All:

I would like to do the zTP through ADA at some point in the future.

I have a foreign born dog(Denmark) -- not German. The hip X-ray would need to be done in his birth country for them to give a rating. I am hoping not to have to do that.

Is going thru through OFA an option? Any issues to consider?

Thanks!
Anne Conroy

Hi Anne,

Why can't the hip x-rays be done here in the U.S.? My dogs were born in Germany and I had them x-rayed here, then sent the x-rays to the DV.

Cornelia

I would be fine with sending them to the DV -- but I thought that the dog needed to be born in Germany. Is that incorrect? Can any dobe get a rating from the DV?

That would be handy!!

anne

Hi Anne,

No, the dog does not have to be born in Germany. You can go ahead and submit your x-ray to the DV.

All the best,
Cornelia
www.bavarienburg-dobermann.com

Thanks!!

anne

Anne,

I've had my x-rays done here for both my German and American born dogs and had them sent to the DV for review without issue. Good Luck!

Wendy

Do I have to be a member of the DV to get the rating. I would like to skip going through the ADA I have waited too long going this route. I had planned on doing the ZTP this summer at the washington trial, but it was cancelled so I waited on the ex-rays. Thanks for any info!

No, you don't have to be a member of the DV. You can email the DV with a request for hip forms and they will mail them to you.
www.dobermann.de

Then you send the x-ray directly to Norbert Daube. His address is on the DV form.

Ok, thank you for the info. I thought it was like this but someone told me you have to be a member. Thanks again!

To get an ADA ZTP, you can present an OFA rating...

HI Chris,

I went with DV hips for Dubheasa, Jago and recently submitted xrays for Flann, because DV certifies at 1 year. As far as a ZTP, you also need a BH. If you go with OFA, the earliest you'd be able to do a ZTP would be two years old. If you go with DV Hips you could do the ZTP as soon as you had a BH (15 months)

Regards
Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa "DoDah" Germania (11/05/99) SchH III IPO III MR Brevet AKC WD III AWD I STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03)SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) Dutch Boy TT BH
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (05/21/08)CGC

So, hmmm -- I did not know that! if I had OFA prelims done at 1 year, I guess I should have had 2 copies made so I could send one to DV ? or maybe my vet kept a copy?

HI chris

The Xrays for DV have to have a lot of identifying info
Your name, the dogs name, registration, tattoo or chip date etc.
on the xray

If it has all that info then it should be good to send to DV
I'm not sure if the xray has to have been done recently?

Regards
Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa "DoDah" Germania (11/05/99) SchH III IPO III MR Brevet AKC WD III AWD I STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03)SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) Dutch Boy TT BH
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (05/21/08)CGC

It does not matter when the x-ray was done as long as it has all the identifying information and the date when it was taken.

Not to offend you but what is the rush that would require you to send the X-rays all the way over seas? I understand the dog can compete earlier but would it not be better to let the dog get thst much more training and also would not the hips get a little stonger within the difference of that time?

The DV is the Dobermann breed club. I think DV Hips are more accurate and honest then OFA. It seems like OFA ratings depend on what group of radiologists evaluates the film. I think Penn Hip is better than OFA also. I don't think there is that much of a difference between hips at one year or two. Good hips are good hips and bad hips are still bad. I haven't done a ZTP yet so it doesn't matter when I do my x rays. The ADA ZTP is way too EXPENSIVE and not really readily available and the UDC breed survey changes too much and has little recognition outside the UDC

Regards
Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa "DoDah" Germania (11/05/99) SchH III IPO III MR Brevet AKC WD III AWD I STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03)SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) Dutch Boy TT BH
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (05/21/08)CGC

I had to have the end Quinna's tail shortened a little - she banged it so hard against so many hard surfaces, that the skin never healed - it was a mess. On the advice of a friend, while she was under, why not do OFA prelims, since she was such a 'kamikaze' puppy anyway, just in case she hurt herself. Had I known that I could have sent the films to the DV at a year at the same time, that would have saved me more money, b/c now, I don't have OFA official readings, and I will have to get her hips xrayed again. If I had rec'd a DV rating, I wouldn't care about getting her OFAs.. yes, there was identifying info on the xrays, but I don't think copies were made so I could turn around and send them to the DV