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Things are slow on this site so here goes

by John

TODAY'S BIZARRE FILE:


A study by a Canadian anthropologist demonstrated that 97 percent of
women
shut their eyes during a kiss but only 37 percent of men did. The late
actor
Anthony Quinn had an explanation: "Many a husband kisses with his eyes
wide
open. He wants to make sure his wife is not around to catch him."

Kissing on the lips is something the Romans started. A husband
returning
from work would kiss his wife's lips to see if she'd been drinking
during
the day. In fact, the Romans were so keen on kissing that Emperor
Tiberius
was obliged to ban the practice after an epidemic of lip sores.

The French kiss itself was invented in the Brittany village of Pays de
Mont
as a substitute for sex because the population was growing too fast.

In writing, XXX's have been used to represent kisses. The origins of
this go
back to the days when people couldn't write signed their name with an
X. To
emphasize their sincerity, they would then kiss their mark. This
practice of
kissing the X led to the X's representing a kiss.

Human beings are not the only mammals that kiss. Polar bears and
kangaroos
kiss. Chimpanzees can and do French kiss. Sea lions rub mouths, a male
mouse
licks the mouth of a female mouse, and an elephant sometimes brushes
its
trunk against another elephant's lips.

An American insurance company discovered that men were less likely to
have a
car accident if they were kissed before they set off.

Germans rub noses, as do a good many other peoples. Polynesians like a
nose
rub but also enjoy the mitakuku, which involves biting hairs from
eyebrows.
Trobriand islanders bit each other's eyelashes. In China they touch
each
other's cheeks and then sniff.




Posted on May 22, 2005, 6:18 PM
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thanks....

by Jill

I needed that!
I have been busy so thats my excuse for my absence.....

Today I did go to the Mariners Baseball game & had a good time. We won a 5-0 shutout game...... I went went a good friend as Jack dislikes sports...*grin*

Posted on May 22, 2005, 10:08 PM
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Re: Things are slow on this site so here goes

by Tom W

Very Interesting !

Posted on May 23, 2005, 10:36 AM
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Well i had a fun weekend

by John

Every body else in the house were in shirt sleeves except yours truly.Like cold,freezing,teeth chattering.Spent all friday nignt in the emergency room.A light case of pneumonia plus an inflamed leg artery.. Put a bandaid on it and send him home.Such is life. : )

Posted on May 8, 2005, 4:24 PM
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Glad your home....

by Jill

Spending too much time in Club Med can make a person cranky from lack of sleep grin

Take care of yourself!

We haven't done anything special......It's ben raining here like crazy........I think this is spring part 4!

Posted on May 9, 2005, 10:14 PM
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Jill Looks like you got a commercial on the message board.

by John

N/t

Posted on Apr 24, 2005, 8:00 PM
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thx...

by Jill

I took care of them!

Posted on Apr 24, 2005, 8:04 PM
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Things are still slow around here so you guys must be having all the fun.

by John

n/t > : )

Posted on Apr 15, 2005, 2:49 PM
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nope, no fun here!

by Jill

Unless you consider fixing my car fun.....
The first day back she made an awful sound & died on a busy hill....we thought it was the clutch cable, come to find out the clutch shattered. got that fixed
Replaced her shocks.......I think she had her orginal ones & after 200,000 miles she was due....LOL
Then I was out & noticed she was leaking radiator fluid.....took several days to get that fixed.....

Knock on wood she won't break down again for another day or two!!!


wanna trade 'fun'? grin

Posted on Apr 16, 2005, 10:34 AM
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Sounds like me

by John

My son in law took the headliner and sidepanels out of my old 87 chrystler in order to replace them with an interior from U wrench it used auto parts( IN perfect condition)when we got back their a couple of days later the car had went to the crusher.Alas no more interior.Sigh AND then their dodge van gives up the transmission and they wind up buying a new car while i am still driving said chrystler minus said interiior.

Posted on Apr 16, 2005, 3:25 PM
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well

by Jill

if we traded cars I could have one a year newer......LOL

Posted on Apr 17, 2005, 10:12 AM
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Things are still slow around here so you guys must be having all the fun.

by Tom W

No fun here !

Been sick as a dog for the past three weeks. Just the "crud" which seems to be going around. Was forced to seek medical assistance last week when I could no longer breathe sitting upright. Just a couple more meds and a nebulizer.

The weather her is georgous! 60's at night and 70's during the day. However, I go from bed to my recliner. It may be summer before I feel up to going outside.

Posted on Apr 22, 2005, 9:34 AM
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14 days after .....it happens again

by Jill

The 17th was the day my Brother -in-law passed away from this world & today my Grandmother joined him. This has been some stressful weeks for all ...... Once again I will be gone to California for the memorial service.....

She was the 'favorite' Grandma & a gem of a lady.......

Jill

Posted on Mar 31, 2005, 9:56 PM
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Sounds like she was appreciated while she was still here.

by John

That can make all the difference.

Posted on Apr 1, 2005, 1:54 PM
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Home......one more time ....to stay for awhile

by Jill

Hello guys.....
The past 3 weeks have been a roller coaster but nice as family was together,once again.

I see you guys have been 'talking' up a storm....so please...post a note, lets see how everyone is.....

We are all fine here, just trying to get back to normal activities & catch up on things that have been put aside until my return....

& YOU?

grin

Posted on Apr 7, 2005, 9:46 AM
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Nothing much happening here. Jill )(attention Sherrell)

by John

The only thing is one of our fellow volunteers at the museam is on his annual pilgermage to the holy land (strike that ( i mean the pga golf tourmnent in georgia.He has taken a group of busimess men their to watch them wack a poor little old defenceless ball around a golf course for a few days.: )

Posted on Apr 9, 2005, 7:31 PM
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Home now, ....but

by TomW

Jill

Glad you made it back home safely! It has been quiet with you gone. <G> I will continue to pray for your Family and especially your Grand Mother.

Posted on Mar 29, 2005, 8:58 AM
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Thank YOU

by Jill

My Grandmother had a stent procedure yesterday afternoon and I was told she came through with flying colors. They plan to put in another at some point but don't know when or why it wasn't done at the same time, I'm guessing it could be due to her age?!?!?!?!

I had a good trip to California under the circumstances......

Posted on Mar 29, 2005, 9:55 AM
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RIP

by Jill

I will be gone for a week to California, my brother-in-law took a nap on thursday and never woke up. He had a history of heart problems asthma & others but wasn't symptomatic when this happened.
Everyone should be so lucky to die in your sleep, at peace with those that you love around you......it was just too early IMHO, he was only 50 years old.

Posted on Mar 19, 2005, 3:31 PM
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RIP

by TomW

Jill, I will keep your family in my prayers. Travel safely!

Posted on Mar 20, 2005, 3:06 PM
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RIP

by

Jill... I'm so sorry to hear about your 'brother-in-Law'.. Yes, My Mom died, peacefully in her sleep and it is, the best way to go! Have a safe trip!

Posted on Mar 22, 2005, 6:05 PM
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Sorry to hear about your brother- in- law Jill

by John

I had one brother-in-law do just that a little over a year ago.Of course Jim was 89 years old and was starting to get senile.Also a friend of mines son died of complications of diabeties yesterday morning.He was in his mid 40s.Unfortunately.Like his father he would not quite drinking and keep on top of his diabeties. Really Sad.

Posted on Mar 22, 2005, 7:45 PM
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The John saga continues.

by John

This morning i get a call about my sisters 3 year old grandson who she keeps full time.It seems his appendix ruptured and after 2 doctors visits they put him in the hospital.They fixed him up but he has to stay to be loaded up with antibiocs until they can safly remove said appendix.

Posted on Mar 23, 2005, 9:42 AM
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Home now, ....but

by Jill

Sometime after I was dropped off at the airport my 89yo Grandmother had a heart attack. She is stable for now....and docs are assessing her today after a nite of tests...... 6 of us spent Easter day with her & she never complained once....come to find out she has been having chest pain since friday.

THANK YOU everyone for your kind words...this had been one roller coaster of a week! Glad to see everyone here is ok!

Posted on Mar 28, 2005, 10:32 AM
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Well i sit here with edema in my righrt foot and ankle.Really swelled up it is But

by John the edema kid

i have an ace up my sleeve, i mean a compression boot in my closet and i have got it out and put it on the offending appendage and it is sqeezing said appendage until it crys uncle.Then i get a normal looking leg again (I hope): (

Posted on Mar 19, 2005, 12:58 PM
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Get that foot UP!

by Jill

When that would happen to Jack he would sit on the couch & elevate his leg......this was way back when he wore compression stockings....do you have any of those? It's ben a long time since that happened to Jack BUT we keep the stockings just in case!

what about the left foot??????

Posted on Mar 19, 2005, 3:28 PM
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Well Jons site is up and running again and guess what .

by john

Every body has deserted Jack and your site again. Jut not fair, Jill, i tell you. Sniff sniff,sob sob.;(

Posted on Mar 15, 2005, 1:35 PM
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The good ones stay or return

by Jill

as they know you can talk about any subject here.....not just heart stuff.

Things are good here...how about on your side of the country?


Posted on Mar 15, 2005, 9:11 PM
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ccurrently i am fighting a battle with medicare and my DNE provider

by John

My bipap we went out and my supplier don,t want to get it fixed and bill medicare.That'l teach me to op for a buyout instead of rental wnere they make a fortune for the rest of my machines life with medicare paying the rent.

Posted on Mar 16, 2005, 9:15 AM
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Well Jons site is up and running again and guess what .

by TomW

John,

I'm still here. Jill, I think you have sent your NW weather to us. This is supposed to be our dry season. However, we had rain three days last week and it appears that it will be a duplicate this week. Not that I am complaining. After the fires of 98; I will no longer complain when we do receive it.

Have a great week !

Tom

Posted on Mar 16, 2005, 6:11 AM
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Tom & weather

by Jill

Last night on the news they showed Death Valley in California and it was fields of color from all the flowers blooming. They normally get 2" of rain a year & this year they had 6" so after decades of being dormant the seeds sprouted, it was a beautiful sight!

California & states like yours have our rain......we were declared in a 'drought' earlier this week so it may be one long dry summer for us! Our main problem was the snow pack melted in our warm temps & the rain gage was a little short too.

Posted on Mar 16, 2005, 9:00 AM
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We currently have fairly warm weather and rain.

by John

n/t

Posted on Mar 16, 2005, 9:17 AM
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A big snow storm ( the blizzard of 05)hit here this morning

by John

1 /260339 of an inch of snow is covering the gound.

Posted on Mar 8, 2005, 4:51 PM
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Heart question

by Jamie

Hello Everybody:

Quick question. My husband gets vague chest discomfort after eating chocolate and other fatty foods but if doesn't eat them he is fine.
Why would this happen?

Posted on Mar 7, 2005, 6:42 AM
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Jamie , I have the same problem

by John

When i eat fatty foods my chest starts acting up and so does the neuropathy in my feet and ankles.Since a nitro pill( which opens up the arterys) takes care of the problem i would guess it is to much fat in the bloodstream.


Posted on Mar 7, 2005, 7:30 PM
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Jon's up and running

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Hi everyone... "CHF.com", Jons Place, is up and runing.
The Message Board came up today!


Posted on Mar 3, 2005, 1:46 PM
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That is great news

by John

I have really missed it.

Posted on Mar 3, 2005, 7:51 PM
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Yes

by Jill

It is good to see the Jon's forum back up!

As always this place will remain for all who wish to post....just the way we like it!

Posted on Mar 4, 2005, 7:25 PM
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Jill I notice on the top of the page their are ads for Defibrillators

by John the jokester

Do they have any do it your self models in case no one is home.

Posted on Feb 26, 2005, 12:35 PM
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I can't say.....

by Jill

I rarely see any ads with the ad-blocker we have installed......BUT that is a good idea in case your home alone! Maybe you could invent one.....& be our first multi-millionaire!



Posted on Feb 27, 2005, 12:13 PM
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cold medicines

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Good evening, I have DCM; am on coreg 25 mg BID, 10 mg lisinopril, 25 mg inspra, 20 mg lipitor, daily low dose aspirin. Have recently had a cold and would like some input on what cold medicines are considered the safest for nasal/sinus congestion and the typical cold. You can reply to this site or to townley@verizon.net Thanks.

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Saline Spray

by shadrach

It's best to use a saline spray.

Posted on Feb 25, 2005, 9:33 PM
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congestion

by Jill

first, I sure hope you feel better soon!

We eat a lot of hot peppers and when you make yourself a hot cup of soup with them it will open up your nasal passagages and give you some relief. We use habenero, they can eaither be like eating toast or HOT FIRE but it works & it'a a great way to get your vitamin C.

When if doubt call your doctors nurse, they should be able to help!!


Posted on Feb 25, 2005, 9:56 PM
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Jill

by John the pepper eater

Years ago when an out of state brother in law was visiting we got to talking about eating hot peppers. Well he states they never get to hot for him and do not even bother him.With that i went out to the garden and picked one and handed it to him.It brought tears to his eyes and much consumption of water and no more bragging on that subject. : )

Posted on Feb 26, 2005, 12:29 PM
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Oh yes.....

by Jill

We have had the almost exact encounter with a family member! By the time it was over he was tearing up & red-faced!

I always think it's interesting that you can buy a handful of peppers and use one & it has no heat to it.......so you cook another day and put in 2 and by the next day you wish you hadn't!!! hehe

We love them and like I said they are great for colds & a super source of vitamin C. Jack likes to put them in his coffe.....not me! Yikes!

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Hot Peppers in Coffee?

by TomW

I too like hot peppers in some foods. But in Coffee? Maddjac has always had a reputation for being somewhat different. Jill you must be a "Saint" to have tolerated him all these years. <G>

Posted on Feb 28, 2005, 6:18 AM
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The southern way was to put them in vinager

by John the mixed up yankee

and use it on anything green. Collards,kale, mustard greens etc.

Posted on Feb 28, 2005, 11:36 AM
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Pepper Sauce

by TomW

John,

A couple of years ago I set out a dozen each habanero and cayenne pepper plants. Habanero has good heat but cayenne has great flavor. I made so much pepper sauce that I sill have a couple of gallons remaining. Next time I will only do a couple of plants each.

I gave my next door neighbor some of the habanero peppers. He put them into a bottle of vodka to make pepper vodka. Then, even chilled, it was then too hot to be consumed.

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pepper vodka!

by Jill

Yuk!

& yes Jack is a rare breed but as long as I don't have to drink the coffee with the peppers all is quiet around here. LOL

We love all kinds of peppers except bell peppers, the only purpose they serve around here is for the parrot to eat.

Posted on Mar 1, 2005, 11:22 AM
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Jill you'r kidding

by John

Cook up some bell peppers and onions amd serve them on a philadelphia steak sub and its the next thing to heaven.( 1954 vintage sub that is)

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Bell Peppers

by TomW

Jill,

In New Orleans cooking, bell pepper is 1/3 of the "trinity". Onions, Celery and Bell pepper. I use this same "trinity" in my southern, red neck, Florida Cracker style of cooking. 2 or 3 times per year I will even steal that yankee dish and stuff a few of them with a mixture of corn bread dressing or rice with chicken, ground turkey, shrimp or imitation crab meat. I generally only use the green ones. They are cheaper. I will sometimes purchase the other colors if I am preparing some colorful "Tex-Mex" dish.

Posted on Mar 2, 2005, 8:15 AM
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They do look nice

by Jill

But we can't get past the aroma or flavor of them...LOL
The yellow, green & red all look nice but like I said the only taker in this house is baby......she usually picks out a yellow one when given a choice.

We use jalapeno peppers in the philly cheese steaks...oh so good!

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That sounds like an explosive mixture.

by John

Those peppers overheat in that vodka and blam, up it goes. : )

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Pepper Vodka

by TomW

John,

I never cared for vodka even when I was "a drinkin man." I thought my neighbor who is Polish, was foolish to waste good peppers. However, since I had far more than I had any use for; I gave them away to any/everyone who would accept them. <G>

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I am glad you got such a good match.

by John

It looks like you have a full and buisy schedule.Keep up the good work.

Posted on Feb 23, 2005, 5:25 PM
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Glad to see more folks here

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Hello to you old friends and new ones. Thanks for thinking about me. I am doing well 2 1/2 years post heart transplant. I had my check-up on Valentine's Day, showed no signs of rejection and no other problems. The doctor's say I'm their poster girl. I don't have to go back for another biopsy for 4 months. I am staying busy still volunteering with our transplant awareness group and serving as the Georgia Transplant Foundation Mentor coordinator for Emory University Hospital. To the newbies, I was diagnosed with CHF/Dilated cardiomyopathy in 1994, experienced sudden cardiac death, had 3 ICD's, maxed out on all the "right" medications, before having my transplant evaluation. I listed on June 13, 2002, was hospitalized July 19 until I received my heart which came on August 3. I am very lucky to have received my gift of life in time. If I can be of any help to anyone, either post here or just email me direct. Hope you all are doing well. We had a great holiday season and Tony and I celebrated our 30th wedding anniversary in January. I am staying busy with speaking engagements and playing the organ at my church, and camping with my family.

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Sherrell

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What a wonderful post! "Congratulations" on
your success! What an inspiring story!
Continued "Good Luck" to you!
Sandy

Posted on Feb 23, 2005, 4:12 PM
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Role call Jill >Tom > Jamie> Sherrell Where art thou

by John


Things are quiet on the western front these days. : (

Posted on Feb 21, 2005, 9:47 AM
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I'm here.......

by Jill

The truth of the matter is I've been outside a lot enjoying our sunshine while California gets hit with all out rain!

We have both been good, no colds, flu or other ailments just the normal stuff that we live with each day.

Thanks John!

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The weather is nice here also

by John

I didn't go to the museam(as a docent)for the last couple of weeks because of critical medical condition, the doc says no. A common cold. oh well.Anyhow we had a fairly good turnout today because of the good weather.

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Roll Call

by TomW

Just sitting here in front of the computer enjoying the spring like, 70 degree temperatures. Had my (lack of) income taxes done today. I am receiving a refund equal to my property taxes. "The Federal Government returneth and the County Government taketh away".

Posted on Feb 22, 2005, 9:58 AM
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well Tom

by John

it is nice here also. No income taxes,bountyfull SS check coming monthly and the city government graciely forgives my property tax becuzz i are a decrepid ole senior citizen.


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well Tom

by TomW

John, you truely are blessed ! Besides, you have all of us as your friends. <(8-/)

Posted on Feb 23, 2005, 6:00 AM
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Heart Awareness bracelets

by Jason

Anyone know of anywhere to get some Heart Awareness Bracelets, like the "LiveStrong" kind? Something that will benefit some organization.

Posted on Feb 10, 2005, 11:28 PM
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Here's a website

by

http://www.womenheart.org/order_shop.asp. I also found a number of sites that had some nice red dress jewelery and other women's jewelery items that signify heart disease.

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Heart Awareness Bracelets

by shadrach

Found some here too:

http://www.hopeheart.org/files/WristbandofHope.html

Posted on Feb 13, 2005, 9:53 AM
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Coreg

by Tom W

I have been on Coreg since 1997. For many of us, it is a difficult drug for our bodies to adjust to. Some folks may take up to 2 years to reach recommended dosage. With each increase I felt terrible. Likewise, you or your loved ones should stick with it. If you have CHF, Coreg has proved to extend mortality. That in itself was enough motivation for me.

I feel the same way about taking COQ 10. Autopsies of heart patients reveal they all have low COQ 10 level. Even tho I have observed none of loudly proclaimed benefits; I still take mine every day.

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Coreg and CO-Q10

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Great advice Tom. I also take "CO-Q10" and I
can say, I did see a difference in my energy
level after only 2 weeks of it.
Might I add to this, I had my "ICD" inserted
about 2 months ago and this gave me at least,
50% more energy! The technology today is
amazing, to say the least!


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New Tirade

by TomW

My Cardiologist has suggested that we "look into" having a pacemaker implanted. I am such an obstinate, ornery old man; he knows that is the best way to deal with me. Apparently, he thinks it might prevent sudden death. Last year I wore a 24 hour holter monitor which did not pick up any unexpected activity. Thus, I feel this is premature.

The purpose of this tirade, is tell everyone to take control of your own heath care. Find out as much as you are able to absorb about this sinking ship we are all aboard. Only then, can you intelligently discuss with your doctors, your treatment options.

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Defibrilator needs

by

I believe you might want to rethink your decision. The only way to really know if you need a defribilator is to have needed it and died. I'm sorry to be so blunt but it's true. I got one and, for a year, I wondered if it had been a bad decision. But then when it kicked me, I knew that the doctor had been right.

This is a very simple and almost painless procedure. I stronly belive that the doctor knows what he is talking about in this situation.

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Defibrillator Needs

by TomW

Good Morning Christine,

I appreciate your concerns! It is imperative that we each inform ourselves regarding our illness. It is only after self education; can we intelligently discuss our particular situation with our Doctors. Then in conjunction with our Doctors, we can jointly reach decisions with which we are comfortable.

Many folks do not want to know. They just visit their Doctor, follow his instructions and take what ever medications he/she prescribes. If this adequate for them; it is their decision.

As my health declines, there are fewer and fewer things over which I have any control. As long as I have my somewhat limited mental capabilities; I will make the final decisions regarding my health situation. When I need assistance regarding legal, financial or heath issues I seek out a professional. I discuss the circumstances and seek direction. Based upon what I have learned; I make the decision with which I am comfortable.

Perhaps at some point I will reconsider a defibrillator.

I Thank You !!



Posted on Feb 16, 2005, 8:53 AM
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Re: New Tirade

by marcia

I, too, have had several holter monitor sessions with nothing showing up even though I was pressing the event button and "feeling" things. So this time, I said fine I will take one more but never again if it shows nothing. Doc told me it is a new improved version and lo and behold when I wound up in the hospital before the results came back.. He came back from the office after admitting me and said the holter shows you were in vtack several times... so ask for the new holter that is more sensitive than the old ones.

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Susan and Coreg

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Hi Susan,
I have been on Coreg for about 9 months now and am
(after trial and error) finially used to it. I too had
so many, dizzy and sleepy symptons from this. Then I tried
to see why,,At first, at the doctors recomendation, I took my morning dosage of "Lasix" with it. Then I found, if I ate a spoon of "Peanut Butter" in the morning
first and took the "Lasix" about an hour, after the "Coreg", I
did not get the ugly reaction from it.
"Coreg" is a great drug for "CHF" and once your dads system gets "used" to it, he will feel the benifits. Good Luck to you both!


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Thanks for info

by Susan

Thanks everyone for telling your experiences with Coreg. I'll tell my dad what you've all said.

Posted on Feb 7, 2005, 12:51 PM
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