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recurring dream

February 17 2003 at 11:07 PM
  (Login Shirley123)

 
I keep getting the same dream over and over again and I have been getting it since as far back as I can remember. I am on a train, though sometimes it is a roller coaster. I get off at a station that has a large waiting area full of red water, where people are swimming naked, men and women together. I get in and swim with them, then I go to the changing room which is also red in colour, but all the fittings are broken, that is the sinks, showers and toilets, all are broken and there is water everywhere. I then get dressed in there, to be honest I feel like I am changing bodies (and sex) (Weird) and come out and get on another train. This train takes me to a fairground where there is a ferris wheel, and a market and it is on the side of a hill. I meet someone there, I don't know who it is, but he is always there. Each time there is a disaster at the fairground, the ferris wheel breaks off, and there is a big fire or something. Usually, it is raining. What could this mean? Any thoughts? I have always had this dream and never found out what it meant, though I have explored many avenues, even reincarnation.

 
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Re: Reoccurring Dream

February 17 2003, 11:22 PM 

Your dream puts me in mind of someone trying to trace their natural 'bloodline' identity. Is this something that you have wondered about?

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Bloodline

February 18 2003, 1:48 AM 

No, I have been having the dream all my life and I don't know what it means. What do you mean by bloodline identity? Do you think it has something to do with genetics? How do you mean?

 
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Genetics possibly?

February 19 2003, 2:49 AM 

The images that you described in the dream put me in mind of this.
If I was bolder I would ask you outright if you were adopted or have ever felt that your parental lineage was true to your beliefs.
Trains travel on lines and your train took you to a stop that was flooded with red water. Blood is thicker than water yet you descibed water the colour of blood.
The plumbing utilities were all broken so the water flooding from these would dilute whatever was dying it red.
The fact that you say you have had this dream from being young and the changing of identity before you boarded the 'other' train may detect an unsureness you feel of who you really are.
There is destruction to things that are commonly thought of as being fun - especially to a child.
The person who appears to you in the dream, whose identity you do not know,is a man.
Go back into the memory of your childhood to find any significance if you can.
It would be easier to say that your dream portrays a deep felt feeling that you were brought up in circumstances that do not fit your mental attitude to the genetic make-up your were given - I was born in a private hospital and I often joke to my Mum that she got the wrong baby and that I should really have gone to rich family, which would account for my lazyItus. But this is a 'today' feeling. That you have been having this dream for so long seems to suggest and question the absolute beginnigs of your existance or at least trying to come to terms with how they came about?

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Interpretation

February 19 2003, 8:25 AM 

No, I'm not adopted and my parents are lovely, and my dad is very open minded. I just can't think what it could be. However there is evidence that my mothers father wasn't who she thought it was, and my dad is really different to all of his family as well. They all think he is weird because he's a psychic or something. But what bearing would my parents have on my in that respect? Why would it cause me to have the same dream forever? No offence taken ET.

 
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What bearing?

February 19 2003, 10:52 PM 

Are you serious? What you are/have was created by them and thus was likewise created by their parents, the only thing new is the mixture.Don't think that you can escape that, not even in your dreams.
I do think what you said about your Mum & Dad was interesting. Oh yes! Another thing I forgot to ask was whether any of your family had been connected to the fairgrounds - maybe of Romany stock? Ask some questions as this could get very interesting.

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Romany

February 20 2003, 8:22 AM 

According to my Dad, there are Romany gypsies in the family from way back. My spirit guide is a gypsy called Elijah, and I do read the Tarot. I also get unusual esoteric knowledge from somewhere, that no one seems to understand except my order (Rosy Cross).

 
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Interesting!

February 20 2003, 10:23 PM 

I wondered what your experience of reincarnation suggested but surely, if you have a spirit guide, he could enlighten you as for what reason this dream keeps repeating itself. I have no experience of such 'guardians' so I am unaware of their possibilities to answer questions.
Do you think that it is Elijah who meets you in these dreams?
Maybe his emphasis is for you to go back to your romany roots and 'use' them more, certainly, with the dream reccurring so often, you are never going to lose the connection (trains again?)
Is there any significance as to when you experience the dream? Or is just a random occurance?
Do you know anything about Elijah, his pastlife?
It is interesting that you are writing a screenplay to do with an esoteric theme, is this your usual choice of subject?
PS it may be of no concequence but President Bush had a gt/gt/gt/grandad called Elijah Keeler Bangs, a romany from Stratford. UK?

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Answers

February 20 2003, 10:33 PM 

I never see the person's face when I meet them at the fair, but it could be Elijah. I was thinking about when the dream seems to occur and I find that it is when I indulge myself in the world of Esoterica which I do from time to time. I have always written about the paranormal and Esoteric and I always will because nothing else gets to me the way that does. Oh, and another thing, I have an unexplained fear of fire (Chronic Pyrophobia) Yet in my dream there is always a big fire. And what about the significance of the Ferris Wheel?
Elijah does enlighten me on a lot of things I must say. He is part of me. He protects me from unwanted influences because he is strong. He has a very strong personality that sometimes I take on if I feel things are getting me down.

 
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Children

February 20 2003, 10:40 PM 

I just get the feeling that this is something to do with reproduction. Either you fear of it, or it is a missed opportunity in the past. Are you concerned, or have been thinking about your 'body clock' recently? This could have triggered the dream. I could be wrong, but when we are little girls playing with dolls etc, it is almost expected that we will reproduce when we are older and become mothers ourselves. From some of your other posts, you say that you are very very busy and willing to take on more. I feel that it is a subconcious worry of yours regarding settling down and having a family of your own. Dont worry.. there is plenty of time..

 
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For Erika

February 20 2003, 10:45 PM 

I have two kids and two cats and I've done the living together with a guy thing. I don't see as to how it can be to do with that. My Dad says it is to do with being a shape shifter.... okay... whatever... and the Rosicrucians think it is a reincarnation dream. Someone else thought it was to do with something deep in my subconscious, as water means the subconscious or something.

 
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Elijah

February 20 2003, 10:41 PM 

I forgot to say about Elijah. He was a gypsy boy born illegitimately to an English Earl and a servant girl. She was of Romany stock. The Earl disposed of her when Elijah was young and he was brought up as a servant in the house. The servants were his family and they never let him forget his heritage. I don't know much more than that but I feel like I was very close to him in those times. It's like we were married or something, but I can't say for sure. For a while now I have referred to him as my husband but I might be just messing there, I don't know. He does tend to be intimate, is it imagination?

 
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Wow!

February 20 2003, 10:55 PM 

It must be great to have someone 'around' like that... sorry I got it wrong. Still get the same feeling of childbearing etc. The 'intimate' thing is putting me off though because I feel he is a brother of=r a sonm from a previous life and not a lover. Read a great book a few years ago, cant remember the exact title (will let you know) about a woman that recollected a whole different life in Ireland years before she had actually been born.

 
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Jenny Cockell

February 20 2003, 11:02 PM 

Yesterdays Children, Past Lives, Future Lives.... She's now a podiatrist in my county!!! very interesting book. Maybe you should go for regression if you havent already.

 
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Regression

February 20 2003, 11:08 PM 

I don't want to pay for it.

 
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journey

February 21 2003, 7:18 AM 

ok, train, rollercoaster, teh journey of life
the red definately seems like either Jacob's ladder recollections or someting to do with sperm swimming (dont know why, but the interaction of men and women swimming, you did not say there was fear involved,) this actually looks like a microscopic analysis of what happens pre-life, as then it gets determined male or female, and gets another journey, it is an art house psychic version of reincarnation! Reduced to molecules represented by people, and it finishes in london by the millenium wheel where of course it is raining.....not trying to take the mick, it is a sixties version of the journey of life with a man (The Man?) assisting you to the next one?

sometimes when you put life under a microscope, that is all there is, we look like tiny ants from space running around trying to get a huge leaf, until someone treads on us or eats us, I used to think like this when I was a kid, it was rather depressing...I got he idea of looking down at us like ants from an old sci-fi movie about ants or something, and at teh end, the camera panned out and up, until way in the sky/atmosphere all you could see was people scurrying like ants, and it made me realise very early on that lots of our endeavors are futile, we all just crumble to ash in the end....why struggle? that film angle had a huge impact on me as a kid (so did the land that time forgot, the hairyneanderthal leaping out of ht bushes scared the s out of me as a little girl, and did untold damage to my sexlife, but I'd rather not get into how) So was there a film with these images when you were maybe under six that made a deep impression which is now surface as symbols for stuff that may come up in yr life??



 
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yeah

February 21 2003, 7:21 AM 

I am relly uncomfortable with the image of that neanderthal leaping out of the bushes, what the hell was that about, I am 35 and it still bothers me!! He looked like Caveman from Saturday Night live on US TV. I think if I had to deal with someone who looked like that today, I would hae to excuse myself from teh transaction, you know? bizarre, huh?

 
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Ferris Wheel

February 21 2003, 10:13 PM 

In the tarot deck the 'wheel of fortune' is portrayed as a ferris wheel. It is the wheel of destiny that appears at various times in a persons life. Whether you choose to get on the ride or see the opportunity is up to the individual but failing this will only postpone the outcome until the wheel comes around again, giving you once again the chance to move on to your true destination. The evolution of the train is,as Neesoj said, a very important developement. Think again to see if the dream appears at significant times in your life. It could be something inconsequencial such as everytime you visit a certain town or whenever you have tea with your aunt, something like that?

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I read Nostros bit in chat

February 22 2003, 4:10 AM 

and I ahve to agree with his interpretation that the male and female swimming in red is most definately a sexual thing, also aggressive, which, frr a personal perspective, having been 'robbed' when I have given sexually in relationships, I understand this aggressiveness which represents sexual desire but with self protective aggressive edge, I agree too that the man who gets you to the fairground may not be a positive individual, as the fairground is breaking down of the circle of your life? careful who you roll in the hay with!!

 
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Sexual

February 22 2003, 9:28 AM 

I've been through some crap in my life with blokes and I have vowed to myself it will never happen again. No, this is nice this dream. The man at the fairground is nice, that's what it feels like. I read somewhere that rain means blessings from above, and water in dreams means the subconscious, the fact that it is red could mean something to do with aggressiveness, thats for sure. The wheel could be the wheel of fortune, the wheel of life, and it breaks and causes massive destruction including a big fire. So I have dreamed of Water and Fire in the same dream, now all I nead is Earth and Air and I will have four elements.

 
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