Governor Parkop and the NRL Bid team have stated the the new staduim would be built at the Hubert Murray Staduim.

Is this a good location ? considering transport and other logistics etc...

What about the Loyd Robson Oval ?

Is the area there at 4-Mile too small for an expansion ?

Can't they just improve that and turn it into a better mordern facility ?

What are your thoughts?????

Askim tasol

I heard another story...that the Motu-Koitabu Assembly, the Central, Milne Bay, Western and Oro Provincial governments are in talks to convert this into a Rugby stadium for their proposed Papua Rugby Union Association. If this eventuates, it will be a great boost to Rugby in PNG! Leaguee stadium?? I dont think so!!! We dont want tribal fighting to spill into our peaceful villages...!

Kone is better. Big space and the outer smaller field should be used as a carpark. the stadium has more space for improvement so that wont be a problem. PRL is too cramp and has very little space for improvement.

The proposed Central City Development team should consider bidding for the Stadium to be built at Bautama. There's a nice stetch of field there with no major developments so far. This should spark commerce and trade around the vicinity ultimately having more businesses to operate there to be eventually developed into a city.

Tingting tasol.

About Rugby Stadium, it's a pity that Port Moresby's Premiere Rugby league ground Bava has not undergone any developments whatsoever. Where has all the huge sum of money pumped into the game from local sponsors and IRB gone. Lately it was reported that there's not even toilets there....lol. So Maski rely lo ol Central lo Kam rescueim u'lpela wantaim Stadium.

At least PRL is fairly decent and can host internationl matches. It's not a tribal warefare zone coz the brothers we play here do play in true sportsmanship. Pasim ul blo u......Tingting lo improve lo ol ranking arasait. Tingim...Sevens team blo mipla bagarapim nem stret. Even the 15s can't match the big power house nations.

At least league restores pride in some respect. So ul kilim u stret. Tingting gut na maski lo daunim point blo mipla ol league die hard.


Leagueee.......

Mi wanpla Rugby Union Supporter. BUT, i think Rugby mania you've picked on the leaguees on the wrong topic. Their arguements beats you by miles.

Onetox, wantaim yu!

Do you all (onetox, strokolop, etc, etc, etc) truly believe that the Hubert Muray Stadium will be used for this nonsense by these animals? You guys dont know the truth. The fact is this stadium is rumored to be earmarked for RUGBY in the coming years if a certain group of people have their way!
And while this is happening, PNGRFU is swimming in the dark!!!!!
Acanufa and Rapila should actually get off their backsides and literally go around the grounds developing this code...They maybe damn good pukpuk players, but administratively? a totally different ball game where some may consider them as U-16s.

rubbish

Well Doggy, if you know the issue then tell us......stop beating around the bush....TOK STRET.

To annonymous, "rubbish" to what, madam?

Doggy, exactly my sentiments. Union is going no where with wankers like the people you mention. on the flip side, League is going somewhere. they have sponsorship backing and are looking to go lenghts even if some of us call them "ANIMALS" which i think is unfair and pretty low. You compare how many companies sponsor the televisign of NRL matches against the ones sponsoring super 14?
SWIMMING IN THE DARK is whats happening wih Rugby Union and i wish it changes for the better. year after year union flops into depths and more embarrassment arises. Its time to change.....

And i still think Sir Hubert Murray Stadium is an ideal location for the Rugby league stadium.....unless the union body wakes up.

Union will never wake up.Keep dreaming

Guys, thanks for all your constructive comments...it is a fact that our beloved game is going "NO WHERE" because of the people at the helm...It is also true that LEague, for however much we abhor the playing antics of some of our wantoks, is actually going somewhere. I therefore take my word back on my reference to "animals" STILL...
Hubert Murray Stadium would do more justice for Union than League...unless there is a trade-off and Union gets the PRL while RL moves to the beachfront. My argument stems from the fact that there are now rumblings among the Motu-Koitabuan councillors that League is nolonger assisting their people with kumul jerseys, etc (as if these jerseys are planted on trees so that lazy Motu-Koitabuan players, who are more interested in turning up for training at 6pm just as warm-down sessions are starting; who would rather have a beer on a tuesday evening than go training, etc, can easily get a jumper! Anyway, whatever the reasons for these councilors, they seem to think that RUgby Union should be promoted instead in the Motu-Koitabuan villages, as such, the stadium is out of bound!!!!!
As a bystander from the Kone area, I think this is a great idea (on the stadium been used for rugby)..as it also serves our purposes whatever the politics. If this is so, then all Rugby fanatics from the town, Kone and HB areas should support this initiative and get behind those who are pushing it...! We can only imaging the benefits of such a venture!
This is the news I have heard from my area...so what gives you the right., Anonymous, to say "rubbish" to this? You have any planned initiatives to promote rugby or is it just hot-air blow kamout lo hulpex blo yu? It is people like yu who are killing the living daylights out of rugby development.

Could this be why the Motuans are gearing up to join POMRFU come season 2011???? Sapos olsem, Terence Kedea, Jack Kariko na Lahui Ako could have answers to this stadium rumor as they are the people behind the Motuans RFUC....we should ask them next time we see them at the Bava. The influx of Motuan players at the Bava this year should therefore not surprise us!Because the way I see it, this is their build-up phase...!
...And I take my hats off to them because at least, we know that there are people out there who have the heart and love for this dying game, and who will go to any length to ensure is survival by trying out new horizons...!

word is that motu koitabuans are working towards having a team in the bemobile cup...and the team is trying to keep away from politics as much as possible..they got outside backing so it will be interesting to see. anything to do with the stadium is always politiks. it's tough to draw quality HB players to union...

TO the Annons, Doggy, Meraveka, ONetox and Strokolop, I have followed this debate with interest and it would seem here that you all are talking about the development of RUgby and League, but from your different points of thought. Common denominator is: Motu-Koitabuans and the codes of rugby. The latest input is interesting, and I quote: "its hard to draw quality Motuan players to Union!" THis is true but discussions with Terence KEdea and JAck Kariko the other day answered this. When quized on this issue, both said that this is the main reason behind the formation during the off-season of the Motuans Rugby Club. Both founders want to use this Club to CREATE quality Motu-Koitabuan players - not to have it made up of recycled Leaguees. You will notice that when the Motuans RFUC defeated POM Brothers and draw Defence, it DID NOT HAVE the quality Motuan players Annon is refering to! So quality players can be made and created - not inherited!
On the proposed MOtu-Koitabuan team in the Bemobile Cup, good concept but wont work. You only have to look at the Central LAgatois of 1997-98. It couldnt be sustained and the Central players (including a host of Motu-Koitabuans) couldnt match it when they played outside Port Moresby. Nearly all were intimidated. In this decade, it will be very hard for Motu-Koitabuan players to make it into the Kumuls. On the same note, the owners of this proposed team would be VERY STUPID not to include HIghlands players in this team - for the aggression factor! Motu-Koitabuan players just dont have this! Let the Motu-Koitabuans be satisfied with performances of Keith Peters, David Mead, Bond, and others in the Kumuls.
On Motuans in Rugby: new horizon and it would be interested to see how they perform. But a Motu-Koitabuan team at Bava PArk would most certainly make waves and would be an icing on the cake to that eye-sore that runs on weekly onto PRL calling itself the HB Hawks! Lets not forget that all Motu-Koitabuans who made it into the Kumuls went via Hanuabada Hawks RLC. Wonder how many would make it into the pukpuks via the proposed Motuans RFUC in the coming years?
Your thoughts please!

Mi wanbel brada Nilpis. The Motuans are starting from somewhere and look they are not rushing things. After their trial matches against Brothers and Defence, these two club have snapped up a couple of players from HB to play for them this year. For experience sake it is good.The quality time and technical advice they get from these two clubs will go a long when the Motuans enter their own team into the POMRFU. Quite a few are still with Kone, so their playing personnel for nex year is pretty much spread. Bros, Defence and Kone should also be commended for taking these young lads on board especially Bros and Defence. I think they will be more than happy to see these young HB boys return to thier Motuan team next year and feel stisfied that they have contributed in some ways in assisting in the development of the Motuan players.

It should not be a one purpose stadium, but a multi sports complex for any major tournament from hockey to soccer etc. Like they do overseas.

Koma, mi wanbel lo toktok blo you.

Mi gat bikpla laik long toktok blo Komo...a multi-purpose stadium (like the SCG or MCG) would be just the right idea...!

Good debate on this issue. Nilpis seems to know a lot about Motu Koita, league and rugby. He's mentioned some points which are true. On the point of bemobile cup being a good concept but won't work, central Lagatois failure and the highlands players I'd like to say that before you can talk about the players the on-field performance etcperhaps it's better to talk about the administrative structure first. If you can improve the administrative structure then you're in position to look at the on-field areas.

But despite all this, the bottom line is that you will need money. And to get money, as administrators you're going to have to find people who are able to draw corporate interest that can bring in the money. Once you have the money and the corporate backing you can then look at the on-field areas and invest in those i.e. get quality players who can combine well with motu koita players.

Raiders and central Lagatois were a total flop because the administration wasn't right and if you can get the administration right who can bring in the money for you to invest in the on-field and other technical areas your bound to have a team that is sustainable and rewarding not just for players but for administrators and sponsors in the long term. A new team won't succeed overnight but if sponsors and administrators know they're on the right path they'll keep on pouring money.
I mean we saw today that Netball got K75,000 which shows sponsors are going to pour in money where they see value and that they know that the people they are dealing with can bring in new ideas, initiatives that can help them add value to the sponsors brand.

Rugby league has a national following, huge exposure and if used correctly it will surely get a lot of backing.
To those who are behind the bemobile cup team, good luck. One thing I am grateful for the initiative is the opportunity it will provide because bemobile cup is the only pathway for locals. It may be a long time before we see a homegrown kumul from motu koita area but at least they have a pathway.

On the issue of motu-koitabuans making it through hanuabada hawks well times have changed and hawks or any other club cannot provide that any more it's the bemobile cup team that will provide you the opportunity. PRL or other leagues don't control much of the representative teams it's the franchise owners who control their own teams and provide the opportunities for a chance at the kumuls. Have to move with times and what worked several years ago won't be of much help anymore now you have to adapt to the changes.

You don't need a former kumul player to run the show on a bemobile cup team. You need smart people who have an understanding of the game but more importantly who can create opportunities, revenue streams and in return get the much needed funds and inject these in areas which can bring positive returns on and off the field.
Nilpis is talking about the concept not working, people would be stupid not to get highlands players etc.i am not talking about that. That can come later because even if you have the highlands, the aggression factor etcthe whole team won't be sustainable if the team doesn't have a structure and smart admin people to run the show.

A lot of former players think they know how to run franchise teams or sports clubs etcthey don't have a clue how it should be run in this modern age.

One final thing from a playing perspective is that players must also understand the value of corporate support and how important it is to the running of the franchise. If they understand this, players will be more aware on how they behave on and off the field.

Rugby league or any sport that has a national reach is an ideal marketing medium if used properly by smart administrators. And if smart administrators can develop of get smart players the concept will be sustainable and counter intimidation.

Just my bit

spark

Spark, wanbel istap...yu hit the nail on the head with your commentary on this matter...truly appreciated...! It is very true that the downfall of all the clubs - rugby or league - is management...! Hanuabada Hawks is a living epitomy of this revelation. Clan politics plays a large part in team selections, etc...which is a telling factor in their performance nowadays. Much appreciated commentary! cheers

interesting re: hanuabada hawks clan selection. kone storms train alongside them and from what i have seen, they have a new coach this year who is an expat. so maybe they are changing with times too. as far as i know, they're one of the better run PRL teams administrative wise...

storms 2010