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When is Jesus coming back?

May 1 2012 at 12:27 AM
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The seeker 

When is Jesus coming back? At the time when many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased Daniel 12: 4
Can we trust Daniels prophecies? Lets look at His prophecies concerning Christ first coming then decide;
When Jesus was on Earth and begin His ministry..On Mark 1:14-15, He said: The time is fulfilled repent ye, and believe the gospel
*The TIME is fulfilled*. What time was Jesus referring to?
That time which He declared to be fulfilled was the period made known to Daniel, by the angel Gabriel. Seventy Weeks said the angel.., are determined upon the people and the holy city, to finish the transgression and to make end of sin, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring everlasting righteousness, and seal the vision and prophecy and to anoint the most Holy( Daniel 9:24).
As we all know; A day in the prophecy stand for one year (Numbers 14:34, Ezekial 4:6)
Therefore the seventy weeks or four hundred and ninety days, represent four hundred and ninety years.
But when does the 490 years start?
A starting point was given
Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the Commandment to restore and build Jerusalem unto Messiah the Prince shall be seven-weeks and threescore and two weeks. That is Sixthy-Nine weeks or four hundred and eighty three years (Dan 9:25)
So you have to start counting from the time the commandment to restore and built Jerusalem was givenand It would be on 483rd year from the commandment to restore Jerusalem that Christ would be Anointed.
Now the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem as completed by the decree of Artaxerxes Longimanus(Ezra Chapter 6 & 7, specifically 6:14 to 7:1-9) went into effect in the autumn of B.C 457
From this time Four hundred and eighty-three years extended to autumn of A.D 27...That means according to the prophecy by A.D 27 was the period that should reach the Messiah, the Anointed One. Well.. In A.D 27, Jesus at His baptism received the anointing of the Holy Spirit. And He was the Anointed One.And after being Anointed he began His Ministry..And that was when Jesus proclaimed : The time is fulfilled .. (He referred to the prophecy we just we Just analyzed above when He meant the time is fulfilled)

But 483 years we need 7 more years to complete the 490..Well the angel said.. He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week That is, He shall confirm prophecy for one week, which is 7 days, which is equal to 7 years, ..and in the midst of that week He shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease Dan 9:27. ..In other words by the half of the 7 years of Him confirming his Ministry, He shall put an end to the practice of offering sacrifices.
In spring of A.D 31, after about 3 and half years of Ministry Christ, the true sacrifice was offered on Calvary-and the veil of the temple was rent in twain. ..The significance and sacredness of the sacrificial service had ceased..Thus fulfilling the prophecy: and in the midst of the week He shall call the sacrifice and oblation to cease
The seven years ended when Stephan was stoned in A.D 34..
Daniel;s prophecies was correct
Now we have to study the prophecies of the second coming and observe them and watch out or we will miss out.
Now I have listed one prophecy that stands as a sign for the end time, Many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall be increased..Think about it and study others..
God Bless

 
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Elizah

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May 5 2012, 9:55 PM 

It's so sad to see good minds waste their time on this kind of stuff.

 
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the guitarist

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May 6 2012, 9:24 PM 

i agree , knowledge is increasing ! 30 years or so ago, internet did not exsist , and now we can speak to someone from the other side of the globe and see them in real time ! skipe is hear ~! i just heard about some scientists in the US planning and going about designing a "space elevator" that will take us humans up to heaven !!!! true story !!! looks like a modern tower of babylon aye ?

but they say that will happen probably a decade or two from now ... so dont make plans on which planet you wana visit yet .

 
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Willy

Jesus did not exist, JESUS IS A FALSE PROPHET

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May 22 2012, 3:47 PM 

there is no historical evidence outside of the bible that Jesus actually existed

as the bible is a reigious document and is based on "faith"

then Jesus did not exist

 
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EM NAU

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May 23 2012, 4:09 PM 

"Jesus did not exist, JESUS IS A FALSE PROPHET"

Hey Willy. How can a non-entity be a false prophet. You just destroyed your own little thought bubble.

Try something else.


 
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Willy's friend

Re: Jesus did not exist, JESUS IS A FALSE PROPHET

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June 3 2012, 12:06 PM 

Idols and icons can become false prophets and they are non entities.

Tuck that smart arse comment inside where it can't be seen and apologise.

 
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EM NAU

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June 7 2012, 10:36 PM 

O really? What is a prophet then? Please define. It cannot be an inanimate non-entity. PooF! There goes your 'smart arse' comment. Ignorant fools don't deserve apologies.

 
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Anon

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June 8 2012, 10:59 PM 

Humans put words into the mouths of icons all the time, just like they create illusions out of various people, making them prophets. Humans humanise inanimate entities all the time.

The whole thing is silly!

 
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EM NAU

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June 9 2012, 3:59 PM 

What are you doing here then? Can't stay away from it, can you. The silliness is irritating. You just cannot ignore it, can you. You cannot and you will not. Do you ever value your time, Anon?

 
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rait rait rait

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June 10 2012, 9:57 PM 

That "true story" you talk about the space elevators is only a true story of a wild idea that is very attractive but still ages away from becoming reality, if ever. And no, there's no way it's going to happen in the next decade or so.

Print out my posting and keep it for 20 years, then look back on it and you'll realise that I was absolutely right.

 
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for God

Jesus was real ...heres the evidence

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June 12 2012, 2:47 PM 

heres for you guys that say Jesus never existed . Ask yourself what could he have done to capture his image for future generations to know he existed ?? nothing ! the only thing was to right it all down on paper since that was the only means at that point in human history !!!

So when we look at other historical figures like robin hood, alexander the great, St george who killed dragons, this men were real !! why do i say this ? well if you read there historical records they all have there accual locations (city,town..etc) are mentioned !!! not only that, they also have there dates like in Jesus's account it mentions :'during the rule of herod or rule of caesar ..etc" ...this shows the exact time of the activity !!


But the exact give away that JESUS EXISTED was the name "JESUS OF NAZARETH " ! examine the phrase and you see that after the name Jesus ,theres a tag added to it, and that tag is "of nazareth"

This acts like an Identification cards and identifies him as from nazareth . Nazareth is also a real place ! you can fly there and see for yoursef !!! em stap lo Israel ya ! hehehe

Whereas fairtales dont have this characteristic to them . Yep guys Jesus was real and his the most unique character ever known to human history ! HE ROCKS !!

 
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Historian

Re: Jesus was real ...heres the evidence

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June 13 2012, 4:04 AM 

Of course Jesus existed, why would people concoct a complete story out of the blue for nothing? It makes no sense.

But as we know from our own traditional stories and those all over the world, once a true account gets passed around, it starts to get added to and exaggerated. Just as there were no 'dragons"' on earth for St George to slay, so too is it exaggerated that Jesus is any son of God. Obviously he was a very special, outstanding leader, otherwise his name wouldn't have gone down in history just like the hundreds of other very special leaders in human history. His leadership had kick! But son of God? That's where the story has become a fairly tale, just like nearly all traditional stories that have been passed down through the centuries.

Read the most accurate historical accounts of Robin Hood that you can get ahold of and you'll find that the legend is not quite the same as the man. Same with Jesus.

Jon Yogiyo is not son of God either but some people on Scape apparently believe it and if they persist with their crazy beliefs, in fact 100, 200 years from now there may well be accounts that EHP had a visit from son of God for a time. Another tall tale, whose basic mechanism of origin is the same as the Jesus story!



 
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wilz

evidence outside of the bible showing Jesus existed

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June 13 2012, 1:59 PM 

heres another evidence "outside" of the bible that shows Jesus existed !

Check your pocket for coins, do you find one ? whats on the back of that coin ? do you see a date ? read the date... that date shows you that date since the birth of JESUS CHRIST ! every time you right a date on an email ,letter ,that date shows you how long you are from when Jesus was born (his birth date) . So basically Jesus birth date is on every coin and every date you come across ! happy.gif get use to it guys every date you come across wether it be on the internet, in a book, on the back of a coin, on the evening news states how long it has been from when Jesus was born to that point in time !!!!!!!!!! happy.gifhappy.gif


get use to it aye ? happy.gif

 
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o

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June 13 2012, 9:56 PM 

Thats hardly evidence that Jesus existed. It simply indicates that those who started the convention believed that Jesus existed, and by chance or domination, that convention eventually swept the world. Nothing more and nothing less.

Do you actually know what constitutes evidence? You can't simply wish something to be evidence and DADA!!! it becomes evidence!

 
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mini man

evidence everywhere you look about Jesus

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June 14 2012, 11:01 AM 

"O" you obviously dont know anything about history ! the purpose with have years, months, dates has come about becouse of the birth of Jesus . For instance "BC= before christ" ...and "AD= after death" ...its all a form of referencing according to the birth of this messiah Jesus . If he never existed than why do we have years,months,days in the first place? and why do we have this abbreviations of dating like "BC and AD " ??? how and why did they come about ??? besides, you were not around then ,were you ?

put your self in Jesus' situation. A kid who is born 2thousand years from now doubts you even existed , what evidence do you have to suggest you existed to this kid ? you have photos as evidence right ? and you also have government records etc...but in Jesus's time there were nothing like that. Only traditions passed on through the ages ! these traditions are "christmas,easter, good friday, anno domini , and even CHURCH..etc etc. ..lukim nau ?

 
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Wim2012

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June 20 2012, 7:26 PM 

Guys, the evidence is written by Josephus, a early Jewish Historian, which notes that Jesus of Nazareth actually existed, if people doubt it, direct them there, of they refuse it, move on, God said spread the word not shove it down their throats until they choke and accept. If they don't believe then they perish, just as in the days of Noah. happy.gif

 
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Wano

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June 23 2012, 5:05 AM 

Most people on earth believe that Jesus existed but was not Son of God. That includes every major religion (including Jewish people) except for Christianity.

 
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After Death??

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June 24 2012, 6:07 AM 

In the interest of accuraacy.

AD = Anno donini = the year of our Lord. Not after death.

If it were after the death of Jesus our calenadar would be 33 years later.

Anno domini Nostri Iesu. = The year of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Thus it is the year of his birth that is implied, not his death. Can also be referred to eg. 2012 C.E. (Common Era). And BC = Before Christ. BC can be referred to as V.E. (Vulgar era) thus 450B.C. or 450BC = 450V.E. or 450VE.

Before you start preaching your nonsense, get your simple historical facts straight. You tend to confirm the opinion (which I don't hold incidentally) that Christians are simple-minded.

a WORD OF ADVICE: DON'T BELIEVE ALL THE CRAP YOUR CHURCH LIKES TO BRAINWASH YOU WITH. Unquestioning belief is worth less than nothing. As the moving hand wrote on Herod's wall: MENE MENE TEKEL EUPHARISM.



Im totum veritas.......Ralph.

 
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Not only but also

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June 24 2012, 10:14 AM 

Futhurmore,
the Gregorian Calendar we use is not as ancient as you might think.

Its use does not date from the time of Jesus, but many centuries later. Many organizations, including the various popes, used the aniversary of the annunciation, (Easter) rather than of Christ's birth. The last Western European nation to change over to the Gregorian Calendar, as we know it, was Portugal around 1422. Some of the Eastern European Nations; Russia 1700, others, through the 19th and 20th centuries.

In summary: There seems to be little historical doubt of the existance of Jesus -- a great leader, as Ghandi was. However, Chrisitanity the only one which claims he was divine. (Son of God)

So there you have it wantok....In a Nutshell, so as to speak.

Personally, I like the Julien Calendar. One always knows how many days there are to Christmas.

Regards......Ralph.


 
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Let's try it again for the slow learners

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June 24 2012, 1:22 PM 

The argument isn't about what a group of people decided to use as their convention. BC and AD and all that.

Nor is the argument the fact that this group came to dominate the world and thus spread their convention (and their calendar) everywhere.

The argument is that there are heaps of other conventions about other 'messiahs' that never caught the wind like the European's messiah.

That was THEIR stroke of luck. But none of that is evidence that their convention is based on anything other than something they decided - whether or not what they decided actually fit the truth!

 
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Moving goalposts

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June 25 2012, 9:26 AM 

Mate,
mini man brought that up. I merely answered it.

What I like, is that shen anyone ansers such abject drivel, and, I pride myself. shoots it down. Then the goalposts are shifted. I did not make that claim about the calendar.

As I have said, I have no doubt about the existance of Jesus ben Joseph of the House of David. My point is that he was not "The Son of God". This is in no way proven by coinage, calendars, or using his name as a swearword.

By the beard of the prophet......Ralph.

 
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EM NAU

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June 25 2012, 9:55 AM 

Back to the same old argument again, and the cycle continues about fakes and counterfeits,
for the really slow learners.

The genuine rises to the top. The fake fall by the wayside and poof. Gone.



 
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WE WANT PROOF - there is none!

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June 25 2012, 10:00 AM 

OK so you rekon there is evidence for Jesus existence

WHER IS IT?

Show us some hard prrof from the time he is supposed to have existed and we will believe you

The fact is there is NO EVIDENCE from the time of his supposed life that he was actually a real person!

 
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rocker

hears proof

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June 26 2012, 12:23 PM 

"we want proof" you want proof ?? wake up to yourself, christianity is the largest religion in the world !
If Jesus did not exist then why is Christianity increasing every hour, every day ? Why do people find it so unique unlike others ?

If Jesus did not exist then why is his message being spread through out the ages from the beginning of time till today ,you and me are discussing about ? if he did not exist then why couldn't his massage stop from reaching our shores ? why coudnt it be lost and forgotten around the A.D. era , since there was no point in spreading it???

Buddha's religion is the same ! Buddha existed thus his message has reached other parts of the world also ! So Jesus has to have existed !!

Very similarly , from Israel all the way to the USA ,even leaping over the ASIA and finally the WHOLE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT JESUS ! get real and wake up to yourself , just because you refuse to believe he existed does not mean your right . You need to come out from under that rock.


If Jesus was not real then why are Buddhists, Hindus, Satanist,Muslims and other religions converting to christianity ??? Muslims i belive have laws now stopping there people converting to Christianity ! this people are very precious to God . Including you who is reading this. So come out from under that rock please.


 
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You Got It

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June 26 2012, 6:26 PM 

"WE WANT PROOF - there is none"
Ignorance begets Ignorance, have you BOTHERED to read any of the previous posts relating to this topic that have given historical accounts/facts???????? Have you BOTHERED to do any research for yourself????????

 
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Proof?

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June 26 2012, 7:14 PM 

What type of evidence do you want. Photographic? Video? Fingerprint?

 
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sem sem

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June 27 2012, 4:11 AM 

Anything that's acceptable in a court of law is fine by me. That's the standard measurement of 'proof' isn't it?

 
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EM NAU

To court we go!

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June 28 2012, 9:59 AM 

"Anything that's acceptable in a court of law is fine by me. That's the standard measurement of 'proof' isn't it?"

It is indeed my good friend.

So lets go to court with all our evidence, mostly documentary and eyewitness accounts,
the massive amount of manuscripts on the life of Christ available to us and historians,
mostly Christian but there are also secular testimonials to the existence of Christ.

In court we have a problem. A huge one.

We have to swear on the Bible before we present the evidence.

The court has already accepted the fact that the Bible is historically true and Christ lived, died and rose
again and we are taking this oath in 2012 in the year of Our Lord.

You cannot hide from Christ, the Son of God. He reigns in the courtroom as well.
Get used to it.

And read Romans 1:22. 'Professing themselves to be wise they became fools.' You can go down
to the courthouse and read that too if you don't have a copy of the Bible.

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Noxi

'TITULUS CRUCIS'

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June 27 2012, 4:05 PM 

http://hesemann.watchers.ca/cross.html

'TITULUS CRUCIS'..Evidence that the Actual Sign Posted Above The Lord on The Cross Has Been Located!

And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.

Pilate answered, What I have written I have written....John 19 KJV

It was customary for the Romans to attach a small sign on the crosses of criminals who had been sentenced to crucifixion, stating the victims crime. The sign was carried at the front of the procession and later hung around the neck of the victim or nailed to the cross above his head.

A part of this sign, known as the 'Title' or "Titulus Crucis", is kept as a precious relic at the church of Santa Croce in Gerusalemme (Holy Cross in Jerusalem) in Rome, Italy.

The church, whose floor is said to have been packed with soil from the Holy Land, was built about 325, to house a number of relics recovered in Jerusalem by St. Helena, the mother of Constantine the Great.

About 455, the relic is said to have been hidden, to protect it from the attacking Visigoths. The board was apparently forgotten until February 1492, when it was rediscovered by some workmen in a sealed lead coffer built into a wall of the basilica behind a mosaic that was being repaired.

The brick which covered it was inscribed 'TITULUS CRUCIS'.

The board is made of walnut wood, 25x14 cm in size, 2.6 cm thick and has a weight of 687 g. It is inscribed on one side with three lines, of which the first one is mostly destroyed.

The second line is written in Greek letters and reversed script, the third in Latin letters, also with reversed script.

Two experts, Prof. Thiede and Prof. Roll, consider this a major indication of the authenticity of the titulus. First of all, a variation of Joh. 19,19 is a freedom no forger would ever risk. But it makes sense, since Pontius Pilatus, who, according to the gospels, dictated the inscription, was a Roman magistrate and used, especially for official documents, the official language Latin.

CONCLUSION: None of the consulted experts for Hebrew, Greek and Latin Palaeography found any indication of a mediaeval or late antique forgery.

Instead, they all dated it in the timeframe between the 1st and the 3./4th century AD, with a majority of experts preferring and none of them excluding the 1st century.

Therefore it is very well possible that the "Titulus Crucis" is indeed the title of the cross of Our Lord......http://hesemann.watchers.ca/cross.html

 
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didi

people deny Jesus are right.............................fools

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June 27 2012, 9:53 PM 

guys who are asking about proof are silly as a goose. Look around you, everyone knows about this man called Jesus ! stop fooling yourself and refusing to believe he was real . Just because he lived so long ago does not mean that you can take advantage of the little evidence brought up. Ask yourself how did humans come about ? why do they have such complex ,not even man made instruments can come close ! such as the eye, it has over a thousand of processing power that cause it to miraculously function the perfect way it does ! and not even the latest cameras/apple phones/3D /4D movies etc.. can come close to its processing power !!!!!! seriously who ever denys Jesus existed is a fool. If man cannot create anything that perfect and superb and superior to how the eye works then that gives you the thought perhaps we did not come about by exident ? Even the latest gadgets we use nowerer days has a designer who thought it up and made it ah ?

 
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rait man

evolution for brainless people

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June 28 2012, 2:58 PM 

even Darwin himself stated that his theory was just mere speculation because of lack of fossil evidence.
There are no evidence what so ever under the sun and beyond to prove it ! so i dont see why you people can trick yourself into believe something thats totally ludicrous.

Look at the museums , they make up false evidence for supporting this theory ! there using there own imaginary to create animals that would try to support there claims .

Science is about studding something and its evidence but evolution has totally no evidence at all. And is nothing but false teaching from someone's crazy ,uncontrolled imagination. But even worse there pushing it in peoples face as if its the truth and is the true missing link!!!!

 
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only human

Jesus is coming back this are signs of approaching the end !!!!!!!

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June 28 2012, 11:30 PM 

HEAR YE !! HEAR YE !!! what i am about to share is fact not assumptions !

the number of earthquakes over the decades has greatly sky rocketed :

1) between 1890 and 1960 the average number of major earthquakes was only 3 !

2) in the 1960's the average number of major earthquakes was 15 .

3) in the 1970's an average of 54 major earthquakes was recorded.

4) in the 1980's an average of 86 major earthquakes was recorded !

NOW TODAY WE HAVE IT LIKE KNOW BODIES BUSINESS ! MAJOR EARTHQUAKES HAPPEN FREQUENTLY LIKE ITS NORMAL ! BUT NO FOLKS THIS ARE SIGNS ! OVER THE DECADES IT HAS GONE MORE FREQUENTLY THEN ANY TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY ! this are like "birth signs" of something bad happening to the earth ! even scientists realized this and if you dont then theres something terribly wrong with u.

Again i will say this: THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN HUMAN HISTORY, THE INCREASED NUMBER OF MAJOR EARTHQAKES HAPPENING HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE JUST IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME ! AND ITS STILL INCREASING (bible says this is one of those signs)

Famines! (another bible sign)
the world was first officially warned in 1975 ! until now its a rapid growing and killing thousands in Africa and other nations. (one of the signs mentioned in the bible)


Climate shifting !( another bible sign)
this is another sign. Greenhouse effect has never happened any other time ever since man walked the earth . yet another fulfilled prophecy !

Major Storms !(another bible sign) has rapidly increased since the 1980's ! now we have it so frequently its not even funny !

Great plagues/diseases ! (another bible sign)- AIDS/HIV is one of this plagues ! even these new strains of diseases and viruses that seem to pop up here and there in every country !!! this are plagues prophesied in the bible !


To whom hardens his heart ,even though this are obvious signs of something terrible about to happen to the world , will regret his choice for eternity . Ask yourself: after death where will you be ? what then happens if we all die ? think about it !

the great King Lord Jesus sayed : "when you see these signs(disasters/famines/plagues..etc.), recognize, i am at the door" ...

were living in the last days ! ,make a choice now and live it while you still have the breath in you!!!


 
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