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Scientific Proof of Divine Authorship of Genesis..of the Bible

July 2 2012 at 10:57 AM
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It is rare that you see a "proof" of God vouched for in scientific journals. Some can find cryptic meanings in the works of Nostradamus, others see messages in crop circles. Forget those sources! A better one has been around for millennia.

The ancient Hebrew had no vowels and its 22 letters also represented numbers. The words were placed on the page without punctuation. What a perfect setup that would be for implanting a code. A code that humans were really only going to be able to see once technology reached a particular stage.

"By treating the text as an unbroken string of letters, and selecting sequences of equally spaced letters, three mathematicians discovered 300 hidden pairs of Hebrew words with related meanings in close proximity to one another.

Some of the words involved people who lived and events that occurred long after the Torah was written.

"The odds of the words occurring by chance? Less than one in 50 quadrillion, according to an article by Jeffrey Satinover in the October issue of Bible Review."

Satinover is a psychiatrist and lecturer on the relationship between science and religion. He commented: "I guess the bottom line is, if the research holds up and no flaw is found in the methodology, then I think the implication is clear that the authorship of Genesis is not human."

Unsettling though the implications are to mainstream science, the research has made it past the usual critical hurdles into two scientific journals: Statistical Science and Journal of the Royal Statistical Society.

Scientists familiar with the work can only say that, "Something weird seems to be happening." We certainly agree!

(Briggs, David; "Researchers: Word Patterns in Genesis Suggest Divine Writing," Chillicothe Gazette, October 28, 1995. Cr. J. Fry via COUD-I. COUD-I = Collectors of Unusual Data-International. The Gazette item was based on an Associated Press release.)

 
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what proof!

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July 3 2012, 11:56 AM 

You obviously don't know what "proof" is! But then again you aren't a scientist...

 
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For the Silver Spooners

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July 3 2012, 10:26 PM 

@ What Proof, Firstly Look up the meaning of proof before you go splattering everyone with your stupidity
and secondly all you have to do is look up the references given, journals cited etc etc in the article.
ie) Statistical Science and Journal of the Royal Statistical Society.......Deeeerrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!! This was given in the post. No-one is going to spoon feed you so look it up yourself.

The truth must be hard for you to swallow!!!

Proof may refer to:
Proof (truth), sufficient evidence or argument for the truth of a proposition
Formal proof
Mathematical proof, a convincing demonstration that some mathematical statement is necessarily true
Proof theory, a branch of mathematical logic that represents proofs as formal mathematical objects

 
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July 28 2012, 2:13 AM 

The articles in the Statistical Science and Journal of the Royal Statistical Society in fact, do not at all deal with this specific issue, and the authors of those articles would certainly never agree to the way in which their work has been applied. It's another trick used to make pseudo-science nonsense appear as if it were truly investigated, tested, countertested, with the resulting buildup of heaps of evidence to support a theory.

 
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July 28 2012, 6:47 PM 

qwe this is your OPINION??? and it isnt based on the concensus of professional statisticians that admit that something is happening here. If you know better than those Statisticians then its best that you publish your findings on this matter and lets see if your OPINION or REASEARCH stacks up to the scientific peer review process!!! Good Luck!

We are asked to provide scientific evidence then when it is provided we are told that it isnt scientific evidence despite the FACT that this research was published in very established "Scientific" journals. You represent the defenition of Denial. LOL

 
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I doubt it

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July 29 2012, 5:01 AM 

You're the one who hasn't looked at the actual scientific papers.

Better do so because you've already got egg on your face. What they talk about was misrepresented by the Christian taliban.

Since you're telling everyone else to look up the info and not be lazy, may I suggest the same thing to you?

Look up the scientific journal articles you cited in the first place and see for yourself.


 
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Rationale Thinker

Embracing science on one hand, denouncing it on the other

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August 5 2012, 11:32 AM 

Has anyone noticed that certain Christian Taliban (i.e extremists) on this board embrace science whenever they get any pseudoscientific evidence (the results never published in any reputable scientific journals) to support certain Bible fables, then are quick to denounce science whenever people bring up some scientific evidence that suggests something in the Bible isn't correct? Good Lord, you can't support or denounce science depending on what the process discovers. What a laugh.

This board has turned in recent months into a battle between non-believers and radical extremist believers. The average person is neither one.

 
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LMAO

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August 15 2012, 8:06 AM 

Rational Thinker I doubt it? Maybe you could tell us all how the pseudoscience of Climate Change works, and perpetuate the lie of Global Warming which scientists get trillions of dollars for. Hang on what is the latest name for Global warming? its changed so many times that its hard to keep up with the names.

 
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EM TASOL

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October 19 2012, 1:44 PM 

Silly boy, just like any cutting edge science, the details of the overall theories change constantly as new evidence comes into the picture. The mere fact that the issue of climate change is becoming more refined as more evidence flows in is pretty good evidence that science works through a process of testing and re-testing, science is flexible, and as more evidence comes into the picture, we'll slowly but surely come up with a fuller understanding of climate change.

You're nothing but an EM NAU expat roaming around all these boards with your lunatic ideas hoping to stupify our people with your conspiracies.

 
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EM NAU

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October 21 2012, 10:49 PM 

Hey Em Tasol, Have you checked the latest on the London Met Office regarding global warming? or what's it now called, climate change? or better still climate normal?

It is out now. The tricksters have no clothes on. Like evolution, there is no fossil to show for all that silliness. And the Climate refuses to go their way. The planet is not warming and there is no sea level rise.

Sample the CUT & PASTE BELOW. Learn to grow your own mind and not blindly follow the scamming doomsday climate bedwetters, scaring people over nothing.

http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/home/10591-global-climate-warming-stopped-15-years-ago-uk-met-office-admits

"Global Climate Warming Stopped 15 Years Ago, UK Met Office Admits
WRITTEN BY ALEX NEWMAN, NEW AMERICAN | OCTOBER 15 2012


Didn't you hear? Global warming stopped 15 years ago
Despite playing a key role in advancing climate change hysteria, the United Kingdoms National Weather Service, known as the Met Office, quietly released a report last week conceding that so-called global warming actually stopped more than 15 years ago. The startling admission shows once again that United Nations theories and climate models are wildly inaccurate at best, experts say, meaning multi-trillion dollar schemes to deal with alleged human-caused climate change are at the very least severely misguided. "

And may I add, evolution proponents are cast in the same mold, no facts, just toying around with theories to fool the masses, having been themselves deluded.

 
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em nau!

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October 24 2012, 5:49 PM 

Let's see.

You think climate change is a massive conspiracy fraud of thousands of scientists working together secretly.

You think evolution is another vast conspiracy of thousands of scientists making up data.

And you think the second coming of Jesus Christ is just around the corner and believe everything the Bible says should be taken literally.

Em nau! Do have I described your belief system accurately? Should we throw in (just for variety) that Elvis is still alive?



 
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EM NAU

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October 25 2012, 8:48 PM 

1. Climate has always changed, it is and it will. To charge people to change climate is a con, its crap and is intended to corrupt the nations.
2. Macro-evolution is a hoax. Never happened, not happening, wont happen.
3. The Resurrection of Jesus is historic, changed the world forever. I never said his coming is around the corner. You are lying and living up to your deceptive nature for all to see. Truth does not reside with you.
4. Elvis is dead and buried in Graceland. His remains are still there. Can't say that with Jesus. He was and is truly God come in the flesh.

Believe in the saving power of Jesus, quit telling lies, live life to the fullest from now and beyond.

 
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10Q!

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October 26 2012, 10:34 PM 

Thanks for providing this good evidence that you were the one on the other board providing all kinds of idiotic explanations to convince us that climate change was fake.

 
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EM NAU

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October 25 2012, 9:16 PM 

The Met Office, a reputable climate office is pointing out serious errors in the projections by warmists to keep the scare alive. Climate research is not a secret conspiracy. It is an open free for all money game joined by all and sundry to cash in on the now crumbling trillion dollar climate industry. They created the scam themselves and when it fails to earn, they go off and hide. Have you seen Al Gore lately? I mean you bought that Inconvenient Truth hook line and sink, did you. Where is Al now?

 
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I pity yu

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October 27 2012, 11:13 PM 

If your the fella whos been going on and on about climate change being fake for months now on scape you seem, what shall I say..... OBSESSED!

 
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Common Sense

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October 29 2012, 9:42 AM 

Please tell us where to find this "Met Office" ok? Then we can see for ourselves whether it may be reputable or not.

 
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EM NAU

Check it out

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EM NAU

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October 25 2012, 2:35 PM 

Reposted. (sorry, didn't mean to assume your ID, EM TASOL)

Seriously Em Tasol, are you still a kindy feeding off that 'we share common ancestors with worms and apes' nonsense coming off Discovery and National Geographic channels or a grown up 'think for yourself' adult. I know its millions who still believe this junk because they have been thoroughly indoctrinated to believe a lie. But you can be helped, if you want out. Example: If you tell a 4 year old that dinosaurs lived 65 million of years ago and that we came from apes, that will remain fixed to the back of his mind for years, thinking he knows science when he's been served junk. It is sad but millions have been deceived.

There's coming a time when bug to man evolution will be declared as the greatest hoax of all time. Many scientists are coming out, rejecting this foolishness and I mean real hard research scientists. Others know its not tenable, but where else will they go? If it pays, what the heck?

There's coming a time when bug to man evolution will be declared the greatest hoax of all time. My fellow travelers and I are made to feel guilty of arriving there a little too early, but hey the feeling is good when you know you're not being deceived. We know it already but slow learners are joining us all the time.

 
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little dotty

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October 25 2012, 6:52 PM 

Uhhh uhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh but SOMEHOW you're expecting us to believe that you know more what the truth is than thousands of scientists who have spent their entire lives working on the topic.

As if you're more of an expert than them? Or more logical than them??

Sorrrrrrrry buster. Dat don't make any sense atall!

 
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EM NAU

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October 25 2012, 10:30 PM 

Check the Met Office. Scientists know the Met Office more than you know those climate scientists. The Met's rained on their party.

Instead of checking things out, you roll out the tired old...thousands of scientists line. The met office says it has not been warming and the alarmists know that. But they need to maintain their story to get funding or they'll sink - even if the climate became cooler.

They need to create more scares to be paid by a gullible public or they'll be out of a job. It's that simple.

Do you know what happened to Al Gore? Father of the Inconvenient Truth? The guy is lying low after his hockey stick got smashed. What happened to the Truth AL?

FACT: Global temperature has flat-lined over the past 15 years. The seas are in no danger of rising. Al Gore knew that and bought a fine spread on the west coast AFTER the release of his Inconvenient movie.

No, its not funny anymore!!!!!


 
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