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Real or fake Omega seamaster 300 ?

October 13 2009 at 12:31 PM

KEN  (Login tudor-mc)
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I PLANING TO BUY THIS OMEGA 165.024.BUT THE DIAL LOOKS LIKE VERY NEW .IS IT REAL .PLEASE HELP !


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THANKS KEN


    
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jatucka (roberto)
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"REAL OR FAKE"

October 13 2009, 12:53 PM 



hi.

the dial is an Original Service one.

very late, recent.

the Military Engraving is (bad) FAKE.

the Serial Number is very early for a ref 165024

just ONE Original (with Extract of Archive) was seen in that Serial Number Range.

the Bracelet is from a late Speedmaster.

do not buy it.



cheers.

 
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KEN
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THANK YOU

October 13 2009, 1:24 PM 

THANK YOU KEN

 
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KEN
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CASE BACK ?

October 13 2009, 1:34 PM 

HI JATUCKA.

SO IN THIS MODEL SHOULD NOT BE WITH ANY WORDS OR NUMBER ON THE CASE BACK ?

THANK YOU
KEN

 
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Douglas Gravina
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Re: Agree. Perfect in response!!!

October 13 2009, 5:05 PM 



    
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Mike Wood
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Sorry.... this is a piece of sh*t....

October 13 2009, 2:40 PM 

and I am being polite!!

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Grahame
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Poo Poo

October 13 2009, 6:01 PM 

Confer and agree with Mr Woods....a pile of you know what .....GGF

 
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scott
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rolex forum?

October 13 2009, 2:57 PM 


 
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Mike Wood
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We go both ways...

October 13 2009, 3:03 PM 

Rolex and Omega*

(*it's the future!)

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Douglas Gravina
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LOL!!!!

October 13 2009, 5:03 PM 

cheers

Gravina

 
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Andy Glastonbury
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LOL - You are only saying that because

October 15 2009, 5:38 AM 

we have both just got early PloProf's happy.gif

Andy

 
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Mike Wood
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LOL...I got mine first...

October 15 2009, 11:32 PM 

"Copycat!"

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Michael M.
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Just for clarification . . .

October 13 2009, 3:10 PM 

I have an interest in these and hope to have one some day (after I pick up that Tudor snowflake, IWC 3227, Panerai 190, etc. etc.) so I'll continue this thread with more questions.

I understand this is a miss-match of Omega parts thrown together (new dial, old bezel insert and hands, case that is ether new or old and polished, etc.) but is the only thing actually fake (as in non-Omega) the military engravings on the caseback? Or is the entire caseback fake? Or are there other fake parts I am not seeing?

Just trying to get an education.

Thanks,
Michael M.

 
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T.O.W.S. UK
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I am suspecting...

October 13 2009, 3:18 PM 

at worst: a completely fake case, dial and hand-set, with a genuine Omega movement fitted (very common scenario); or a a franken-watch made up with a mixture of real and altered Omega materials.

I have a very genuine civilian SM300on my website; original military issued SM300s are very, very, rare!!

MW


 
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montecristo4
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Re: Just for clarification . . .

October 13 2009, 4:08 PM 

To find a genuine and all original civilian SM 300 becomes harder and harder nowadays. I am not even talking about military ones, as I wouldn't put any buck in it unless I am 100 % sure of the buyer and the watch.

There are simply too many military SM 300 fakes around.

Regarding the civilian versions, most of the time it is a strage mixture of original and service parts, most of the time new dials, casebacks or inserts for instance.

Finding a 100 % kosher one becomes harder and harder. It requires a complete inspection and to check every aspect of the watch before buying or bidding. Not easy actually, especially when you deal with pics over the web.

This is the last one I found and I believe it is a correct example but you never know wink.gif

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mike cotter
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an assembly!

October 13 2009, 6:15 PM 

It is an assembled watch. The dial,case, caseback, crown & movement appear legit.The back
engraving would suggest fixed bars & circled T on the dial. As mentioned the bracelet is for
another Omega....Not a collectable watch,yet the 300 is a very cool piece & hard to find in
perfect order....you'll be well served to pass!...Mike cotter

 
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Mike Wood
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Case and case back..?

October 13 2009, 10:36 PM 

looks a little too minty and engravings in caseback are slightly suspect.

I would be inclined to believe this to be a Far Eastern fake case and back...

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montecristo4
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Re: Case and case back..?

October 14 2009, 1:34 AM 

For a second you scared me Mike. I thought you were talking about mine happy.gif

 
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Brian
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Some info from the SM300

October 13 2009, 11:22 PM 


 
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jatucka (roberto)
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do agree with Mike (more)

October 14 2009, 12:49 AM 




case and caseback are also FAKE

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so we do have here a good (LATE SERVICE) Dial, good Omega Movement (most probably, as i wrote, from another watch/reference), in a FAKE CASE, CASEBACK, (SH**T) MILITARY ENGRAVING.

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the ORIGINAL SM300 W10 are very very RARE (and expensive ....)



cheers from Italy.

 
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