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October 18 2011 at 5:40 AM

tomvox1  (Login tomvox1)
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I certainly don't know the answer to this question, as in my years of collecting I have not bought watches on the basis of papers and have found it quite hard in any event to find papered watches from before the 1980s.

So my question to the more "professional" or experienced among us is this: in all your hunting, how many older Rolex from the punched paper era have you come across with punched papers but that are not dealer stamped/signed, which might also include no country code?

Thanks in advance,
Tom


 
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Brax
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Papers

October 18 2011, 6:14 AM 

I have seen more blank papers for sale at Watch Shows than Rolex watches with punched papers???

 
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steboe
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Re: Papers

October 18 2011, 6:30 AM 

Special deliveries never had a dealer stamp.and yes I have a guaranty paper with punched,6dot,Sn but without country code. I have a letter confirming delivery...wink.gif

 
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Nikos
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Re: Papers

October 18 2011, 7:40 AM 

I have bought several dozen(set)watches throughout the years back when you could buy them for the price of what boxes are going for these days. There is no evidence about the 5 or 6 dot theory as mine have both.

 
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scottb2
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blank papers punched are available all over the place as we see- majority i think be fake

October 18 2011, 7:59 AM 

all i will say is if i buy a full set i would only buy it for a premium from the original owner

 
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Orchi
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Here are some excerpt from www.Rolex Ephemera.com + eBay + Internet..++

October 18 2011, 8:41 AM 

Err...perhaps the Mod may not approve of this posting...
IF so...please delete at free will...

This one looks similar to the previous alleged 570.01.300 Guarantee paper in French...

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No punched nos...

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This other one is 572.01.300 Guarantee paper in French...same signature.

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Punched 4x7 dotted...(could this be unique to Ref 1803 only??)

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Here are some varieties of Punched Guarantee papers...with 4x6 Dots...4x7 Dots...
n a 4 digits but instead having Punched 4x5 Dots(Guarantee paper for Cellini models)...
with or without Chronometer certification.

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Here are few more of Guarantee papers with close S/nos. range having Punched 4x6 Dots...
n some with not too far S/nos. range having Punched 4x6 Dots...

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http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVqtMfgOVV5UUVmFFZKZuF6NqvLzjvJdHQfxtNLXlPbg3qvHNghA
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These with 4x5 Dots Guarantee Papers however go without mention...
where they might have came from...err...mostly from eBay.

Some pics are quite blur...so not sure also if the papers have 4x5 Dots or not...


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http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyR2b6k_x-2R5a5r_-JlAe1wUGv8uatK5lqxz3VkK-qHIka9NzLA
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQjzDpaOZxlPK6Bdswm1Y3Am7YnDznyPe1MSyNSPYqSXiXKE365A
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUFqibI5NRLcRVdpUaEDbt3IJxmISVK-zIQDrQ6JEeoxO6RdSG
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRS8Yo09V3JctXN2fEwVyQ7LkQM-Bxo7uI77sMeWcn3XboHQ8FH
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQP0oTUcQ1sXEbDglo6q46vpRlNQqT2DjJi-FgWewe1Fd9QmOJCq75-tA0l
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQP8K5O_Tr-3nTZF4xuaE34CQ618UUpcWNnD5y8TXQyl0yms6HU
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0OZYE2MQhI3UUhvjoiuSrdVRbmEUYjhiwo2FfIEjwLRvpWiGnQg
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJ-9uHZj_DByZjKIs6ppZw7I1LPgeaRC_6sXa5hhHjP8ChaQOGUw


Here are some having Punched 4x5 Dots...too.

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Best regards
Orchi.


    
This message has been edited by orchi from IP address 60.50.64.241 on Oct 18, 2011 9:07 AM


 
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christian
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very few, here in sweden none but from abroad just a few.....

October 18 2011, 10:39 AM 

when i bougth here in sweden from pawn shops or original owner they are always dated or stamped

only time i have gotten "open/blank" punched papers is from other dealers and as i said very few (seem to recall a couple of 1675's from SG that where blank but this was when nice fullset's where under 3 k euro and "lose" watches allways came with added boxes and manuals if requested)

also i recall some watches with US papers that where sort of "open" but all where pre printed with serial and jeweler and none from the 70ths, just 80ths and 90ths watches

cheers
christian

 
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Beever.
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Personally, I put ZERO weight on Rolex Ephemera...

October 18 2011, 2:34 PM 

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Anastasios
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"Papers"

October 19 2011, 3:42 AM 

Most "combos" that I have seen with punched papers do not
hav the AD's stamp - open without name or date as well.

 
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