For you Richard, another of those Maquerite Koch marvels...



For *Philip*



Interesting..


A pitty..


A shame..


& rest here.http://data.antiquorum.com/eng/flip/2011_Nov_GV/

Rg.Philipp

Keep us posted..

A

To easy imho & nice edit Rich..

AQ has had some neat lots over the years..Nowadays are no exception.

A

lol

or naive...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1194559750/MY+FIRST+POST+%28REGARDING+3-COLOR-GOLD+PN+ROC+DIALS%29

injured at the time ...
the most important thing to check in a PN dial ( if you are uncertain after checking the front ) is to see if the back has the correct punch or not.
in the case of "oysters" PN dials the punch must be the so called "square punch" as the "S" of Singer has in fact a square look.
obviously if the word SINGER and the Singer crest is made by engraving in any way ( besides the very first 6239 that are also signed "AV" ) then the dial is certainly fake.
after you can check also other things ( such as the indexes ) .. but this is another story ...

Best,
Jon

done after 1964....



most probably original dial got changed around end 60-ies beginning 70-ies when you compare it with this earlier lot at AQ


rg.P

Best,
Jon

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explains the low estimate..



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as should look like...

that lot went to auction..and..??

Boy I remember seeing you for the first time at the IWJG and Revolution: The Evolution of the Rolex auction back in 2008.. also at the AQ Revolution watch inspection. Your eyes were wide open at AQ and you were so excited to be attending one of your very first auctions. Like a kid at a candy store. Meeting the big dealers and collectors for the first time.

of the show, lol!

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1217877526/Philipp%2C+I+just+saw+you+on+french+TV

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=6HyLZWlJ1e8

I know the 3525 and sadly it is in poor condition.
I would be more interested in Jaques Laffite PN one of my
idol when I was a kid.
Next to the 3525 one of the pistons from his winning Ligier JS II
(Grand Prix F1 d' Argentine) fitted with the fabulous Ford Cosworth DFV.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NlmOZWeAU

Cool so your research includes 'straight written Rolex' on 3525's now...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1300056497/One+of+the+first+Rolex+Oyster+Monobloc+3525+black+%27Beyer%27+dial----




About the 3 CROC, you see yourself as a popstar, or just being naive??
No, you don't care about the dial, or have a sparepart RCO lying around

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You used to be different, you could post more often or don't you have any Rolex passion left?

For the 'straight' 3525 the market "spoke"!
I know how much you paid yours and I (we) know what price reached the one similar than yours
in better condition at auction a few weeks later (sorry for your loss, you should have listen to me)

For the 3 CROC I now changed my mind since I met someone (he will recognise himself
as he reads VRF but never post) that gave me the full story of these dials with
names, dates and details. I revised my judgement about 3 CROC.

ps : you can still keep your straight 3525 dial and sell me the case !-)

Did you ever compare both next to eachother & you still can
listen to 'someone' actually making you change your mind ?!?

lol! the market spoke...pff! the you can listen...afterwards!

Ok Let's keep it friendly, for Richards sake

when I said the market "spoke" I am comparing the price you paid for your "straight"
3525 and the one that sold just after at an auction. From memory you paid
yours 10K more than the result of the one in the auction. Right?
You will also notice that the one you are showing today is not a ROC like
yours and I still believe something is fishy with these dials. To many variations
for a watch that just started existence. But to each is own.

Now for the PN, when I said I changed my mind (even though I still have a doubt) I met
someone (I told the story to Jed) that gave me a very detailed explanation
for these dials and I must admit that after the discussion I quite changed opinion.

ps: I dont see where you saw an "unfriendly" comment in my post. BTW when you'll
be in NY I will be in Geneva, no one to have a drink there?

Now take your time to explain your 3 CROC story!

And then you do what? You swapp one of your a curved rolex 3525 dials
you believe over in this first batch case that need 'straight' Rolex ??

Strange question for a not believer, imho

BTW your watch was a 5 lines dial (6 if we count Beyer) the one you present today
(auction) from the same era is a 2 line dial, so once again I just find all these variants weird
and prefer by far the regular convex dials...from the same era.
And in between these 2 Beyer dials, you know where my money would go



PS: what is your price for the case?

may I ask you both a personal favour ??
can you please stop now ??
thank you very much,
Marcello

I think the thread is relatively cool, I put many smileys to keep it that way.
It is just an exchange of point of views.

Finally I never said the dial was not Rolex I said weird at the minimum, refinished at the maximum.
I prefer by far my "standard" double name 3525 with wich I feel more "comfortable" than with a
straight line dial. No more no less.

End of discussion!

I am exhausted after that game against the 'blacks' today
Andrew knows what it is all about, he surely will explain you better than me the story
of these dials without naming the source that want above all to avoid any polemic.

So Andrew , your turn to play as you were told the same story as I do.

P.sthaal...i'll see you in NYC tomoro and talk you through the version of events that Dingomad refers to then ...but its one you already know.

because...


remember this one?...

not that interesting..lol..
A

Be prepared..

66 west booth 23

JB filled me in already..

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