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Question on gilt dial

November 13 2011 at 5:45 PM

KK  (Login yeongkk)
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KK
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Re: Question on gilt dial

November 13 2011, 5:50 PM 

Looking at a gilt dial 1675 from a dealer.I have been going through all the dials in the dial archive and still have a bit difficulty in the difference by just looking at the photos.Is there any other way to verify a gilt dial?

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Ez
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Re: Question on gilt dial

November 13 2011, 8:12 PM 

If you can be more specific about where you are having difficulty then we can address the concern directly. happy.gif

I believe that a gilt dial will reliably have the minute marks attached to a visible ring printed on the dial, the chapter ring.

Also, the print on a gilt dial would be golden in color.

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November 13 2011, 8:30 PM 


 
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November 13 2011, 8:59 PM 


 
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Re: Question on gilt dial

November 13 2011, 9:08 PM 

[linked image]
Sorry for the few empty post,was trying to post the photo through photobucket
Looking at this photo, dealer claim its a gilt dial?Without the outer min ring?

 
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MichaelK
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Nice correct dial for the later version (nt)

November 14 2011, 2:26 AM 


 
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Re: Question on gilt dial

November 13 2011, 10:07 PM 

Sorry KK, I can't say whether there was a silver metallic print dial (would not really be gilt, if silver) for the 1675.

Your dial may be early, and might be glossy, but it does not appear to be gold printed, to me.

You might ask the seller to explain why he refers to the dial as "gilt".

Also, if you could tell us a serial number from the case, and the date code from inside the case-back, that would help narrow the kind of dial that was likely original to the watch, if not the one in your picture.

I did find this related thread on the forum:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1303446128/


 
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gilt

November 13 2011, 10:16 PM 

just mean the letter are printed with a golden paint
they dont have do be with a minute ring at all.
just check with a loupe if its white paint or golden...
its quite hard to capture with a camera but its very easy with a loupe...
Snoop

 
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Axel Kroll
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Actually, there are a lot of checks you can do...

November 13 2011, 10:57 PM 

First, look at the dial surface:
- It must be glossy. No gloss, no gilt.

Second, look at the lettering:
- Should be gold or silver. Originally, it was gold, but that could have bleached over time.
- And: the sure thing is that the letters are actually a hole in the laquer. You can of course only see that with a loupe, but that's the dead giveaway.

Third, the dial type and bottom inscription:
- if you have a chapter ring, it must be SWISS, meaning Radium. Watch out for your testicles...ok, just kidding.
- if not it must be SWISS T 25, meaning Tritium.

Fourth, the age of the watch:
- chapter dials are fifties to beginning of sixties (61 or so)
- non-chapter gilt dials are sixties, up to 66.

Fifth, the Tritium of 64-66 dials:
- it must glow strongly in green when put under light. Do not take that for SL. Lasts about 5-10 min max.

Ok, that's how I identify these dials. Probably not 100% right, and everybody pls feel free to correct me. We live to learn here happy.gif

CU Axel

"A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure."
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