Kevin (Login tommo99) VRF Member from IP address 18.104.22.168
As the debate continues about the relevance of the dots, is it just me who has noticed that of all the features on the late 50's/early 60's Rolex sports dials, it is the most frequent to have fallen off? If I were a betting man I would say they were definitely added to existing dial configurations, for a reason which we are yet unaware but probably radiation related. If that were the case, the quality controls of adding the dot may not have been up to usual standards, explaining the regular sightings of missing dots.
Here are two examples of the phenomenon on what are otherwise perfect dials. Kevin
who is to say how many lum dots were added for looks, that is an issue that seems to be overlooked here.
So that makes it even more interesting..of which ones were original to the dial.
Also many a dot fell off when the watchmaker was placing the dial and movement into the case again, just one brush of the dot and it would fell off..notice where the dot is in relation to the case lip.
This message has been edited by aakviper from IP address 22.214.171.124 on Feb 12, 2012 11:32 AM
True, I have even seen them fall off....and watchmakers have this pencil tool where air is vacume blown on the dial to remove dust etc, it would not surprise me to learn that many of these small lume were lost that way.
From my research this double silver rounded bottom coronet 5508 dial was a particularly an early one. I am not unfamiliar to this type of dial. I also owned an early 6536 thicker cased 1030 caliber Submariner with this style of dial. Being an early thicker cased 6536 with this type of rounded crown and double silver print dial made me wonder if at that time I had an early variant. Unfortunately, I sold the 6536 almost nine years ago not understanding rarity of this dial.
Being a low and early production dial I have seen a few more similar dial coronet configuration in my travels, one on an early 6542 GMT and a couple other early 5508 Subs. The 6542 and 5508's bore early serial # as well. All these models so far had sub 38xxxx serial numbers. Logically from what I have observed, this early 5508 two silver line dial was placed in early Sport's models for a few short years.
I will be focusing on a particularly early serial 361xxx non crown guard Submariner model. This 5508 SWISS gilt gloss dial with double silver print dial rounded bottom coronate, is quite a rare variation in the 5508 dial line up
The depth rating and the word Submariner both in sliver print, instead of the gold and sliver combination
This feature of having silver print on these fonts are not common to 5508 dials
I will be focusing on a particularly early serial 361xxx non crown guard Submariner model. This 5508 SWISS gilt gloss dial with double silver print dial rounded bottom coronate, is quite a rare variation in the 5508 dial line up. See picture below for the dial coronate variation.
One will notice the more rounded dial coronate bottom and longer crown arms. The gold print fonts such as letters "R" non serif and "O" are unique on this 5508 variation
who in their archive section has quite a lot of exclamation dial 5508's but no further info.
Replied back to me:
"Hi Jason, I am in the middle of organising quite a lot at the moment so wont have time to compile a list of all the 5508s ive sold over the years. I only have a very small selection (10%) in my archive section, just to give people a rough idea of what I have sold etc.
To address your question, from memory, most of the exclamtion 5508s i have handled have been from either 58 or 59, although I have handled some from ealrier 60s also. best regards"