Case looks genuine enough to me. Only the numbers between the lugs look too good to be true, but that is no certainty just because they are so clean. The wear on the case and the damgae are consistent with a case of this age and with regular use. Fakes are not so much a thing of the past, they are more a thing of the present, and they don't tend to get used like a regular watch because nobody really wants a fake, and once one is discovered, it generally comes out of use. I would be too ashamed to wear one, so I doubt that you would ever find one this beat up.
counterfeit. The clue to me is how it is cut around the crown tube as viewed from the backside. It should be "V" shaped and is not, but cut like the other counterfeit cases from that "forbidden" website.
Can you show a picture of the inside of the case back also ? This is not so easy to tell by pictures alone anymore as perfect replica (FAKE) cases with perfect engravings have been around for over a year now. You have to have them in your hand and then its easier. Its either a 100% fake case or not. As for re engraving this is what some scammers are doing now with papers from another watch in order to sell for more money with papers.
there is one unpublished method of counterfeit detection that I use..
April 1 2012, 12:51 AM
and this watch appears to fail that test..however,it could possibly be a mixture of bad lighting and slightly off angles..but,based on these pictures alone I would pass on it.
I do however feel that the label FAKE is being thrown around way too often these days.
there have been incidents in the not to distant past where a certain style insert was deemed fake and countless pieces of Rolex history where destroyed,thrown away,etc..only to find out a year later that the item was actually a rare varient..that just shows you that we should always keep the front door unlocked in the world of vintage Rolex.
Fonts look ok, but ref. looks small and high.
But what makes me worry is the back side of the case(not the caseback).
No groove. Also(from back of case perspective), look at the
crown guards shadow where they meet case. There aren't any.
Taper looks wrong.
Maybe I could have picked a better word than "groove"
Although Orchi called it as such. You say it's there
but I can't see it from the picture.
As I said, I am not convinced the case is counterfeit.
I just would also be concerned that the area where the caseback
comes in contact with the case is not worn with a metal to metal
contact scoring. I would also be concerned with the other areas
circled that no longer have the shadows associated with
the original contours and "groove" of the 1675 case. These inconsistencies may, I suppose,
be from being polished off. If so, it seems a strange way
to polish the watch and the top side of the case doesn't show
the sharp edge benefits of an aggressive polish.
Hope this is clear
This message has been edited by pitpro1 from IP address 18.104.22.168 on Apr 2, 2012 5:30 PM
It looks much more normal in this picture.
I looked to find a 20xxxxx or 210xxxx serial
to compare fonts but couldn't find one.
1.83m has a curved flag on the 1 in 1675
2.3m has a horizontal flag on the 1 in 1675
Your 2.1m is different.
I don't know if this is correct or not.
If you could find a 2.0 or 2.1 and compare
the 1 in 1675, and the height of the 1675 from
the base it might make you feel much more
comfortable with the case.